00:00do we already know who the cowboys are drafting let's talk about it in below the belt which is
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00:10to let uh rj choppy know cameron brink was on page's team last year in unrivaled you know
00:15that was a miss that's how that's how focused on page you were you know i thought it was sophie
00:20cunningham are you saying all blondes look alike i thought i thought it was sophie cunningham i
00:23mistook her for sophie cunningham okay all right you just you who was not in unrivaled i'm kidding
00:29i don't know i don't honestly i have no idea i think she's too busy doing podcasts and being
00:34muscle for caitlin clark uh all right over at the athletic uh and this was from a couple weeks ago
00:41the john michota did a look at basically you have the cowboys picking at 20 right now so he wanted
00:47to look at who are the 20 names that he thinks could be in play for the cowboys to pick
00:52because
00:53then once you get to it's like hey here's 20 names no matter who comes off the board i would
00:56guess they
00:56come away with two of them because obviously there's only 18 selections around this these
01:00would be one of the 20 that they got so he's got a list of names to look at and
01:04names that could go
01:05up for names that could fall to him that they'd be interested in but he starts off with the ohio
01:10state guys so he says arvel reese linebacker edge however they would view him they would view him
01:16here in this system as an outside linebacker for sure caleb downs the safety from ohio state
01:20sonny styles the linebacker from ohio state and i think styles is really important to to watch as
01:28they continue to look at the linebacker position because the way this defense is seems to be
01:39basically looking through how they view the linebacker position and what you should look like
01:43the things you need to have and you look at who they were interested in quay walker the fact that
01:48maybe nicobe dean was secondary to them and some of the linebackers they seemingly let just pass off
01:52the board i think one of the things that's starting to pop they like length like i think they really
02:00want linebackers who are particularly long able to probably disengage from blocks do different things
02:06like that so demar vian over shown is 6-2 but he's got like 32 and a half inch arms
02:12or something
02:13you've got uh you know nicobe dean who they were not as high on as quay walker they were a
02:17little
02:17bit slower to come around on patrick queen it sounded like i think that may have been part
02:22of the coaching staff going i don't know does he fit what we want athletically patrick queen is very
02:27similar to what quay walker was patrick queen is six feet tall and his arms are under 32 inches
02:33so it does make me think that maybe they want some of that that length and athleticism combo there
02:39and that's definitely sunny styles uh david bailey the address from texas tech i still say
02:44if david bailey fell to set uh to six i'm trading up and getting him i'm just doing a lot
02:51yeah what
02:52do you have to give up to go for 20 and 12 20 and 12 i go to the browns
02:54for six and 38 dang i would do
02:58it yeah because bailey's a bailey's a difference maker and then i'll just take whoever's there at 38
03:02and i'll be like yeah sure they'll just go fill a need whatever it is and if they go out
03:06and they are
03:07able to stabilize the defense with jonathan allen patrick queen whoever may be if they're able to
03:15kind of fill those spots with veterans to get you by i'll take my chances with that in the name
03:19of
03:19getting david bailey here who i think could be david bailey's one of like three guys in this draft
03:24i think like that could be a star that's a guy who could be an absolute game breaker and if
03:29you
03:32okay if you miss on this they my biggest issue here they they had an opportunity they traded mike
03:41away they had four first round picks in two years that's a transformational stretch where you could
03:48just completely make your roster so elite if you hit gotta hit if you hit and to walk away
03:57with those four picks and only actually use one of them no no no because you'd be getting the second
04:04back so would you rather in this draft right now pick 12 20 and 92 or 6 38 and 92
04:1012 20 and 92
04:14i would not i'd much i i think you don't love a bailey yeah bailey fell well no i mean
04:20i think
04:20bailey fell to six but that would be falling a lot of drafts oh yeah he's going to there's a
04:25lot of
04:25is the gap between six and 12 bigger than the gap between 20 and 38 no because bailey is not
04:39expected to fall the gap between bailey and who's going to be there 12 is that's a bigger gap so
04:45sorry real quick
04:48if mccoy never got hurt
04:52who let's say mccoy cornerback from tennessee give the full name scout uh let's say he never got hurt
04:59uh-huh um how big is the gap between bailey and mccoy uh bailey's better i'm sure like i mean
05:07it's
05:08how big is the how big is the gap if if he never got or if he plays like he
05:12never got hurt like right
05:13it's 2026 acl could be 50 50 could we come back from it stronger than ever could come back from
05:19it
05:20and it'd be compromised is it bigger like i mean i how do you want i'm trying to say like
05:25you know
05:25like if mccoy is there and you take mccoy they're not taking mccoy i i'm not saying that but let's
05:30just
05:30say he never got hurt and or or he is a thousand percent healthy and he's there you know like
05:36how big
05:37is that gap between those two types of players versus a level 38 a level bailey's a level 38 is
05:44three levels right or two levels two probably i'm taking 12 to 20 field yates did uh i love the
05:52exercise he didn't say something nice make sure you're not saying anything bad about him he does
05:56he does catch wind of things said field yates was very nice to us in the restaurant lobby bobby was
06:01not there though um field yates did a mock draft after the first wave of free agency this is not
06:08great for the cowboys it hurts vegas mendoza at one the jets take david bailey at two arvel reese goes
06:18to the cardinals at three carnell tate goes to the titans at four caleb downs to the giants at five
06:25uh monroe freeling to the browns from georgia jeremiah love to the commanders at seven
06:34this is that giggle then pull that if you need to pull that's a giggle drop moving forward
06:41the saints take mckay lemon at eight uh how do you pronounce francis's last name moaga no maui no
06:49what maui noah there's no n in it i know miami tackle to the chiefs at nine
06:55reuben bain to the bangles at 10 a lot of big names yeah was that was delane in there
07:03no just so delane and styles would you're looking at uh downs was downs was okay so delane and styles
07:10at that point is who you're looking at i guess so which because at 10 you're 10 that's right now
07:14my dream scenario those two oh get like to have to dream if downs isn't there like to have your
07:21pick at 12 right because i don't think either i don't think both those guys not either one of
07:24those guys are not making it to 20 they don't think i've seen delane get down to 20 and some
07:29early on i've seen the cowboys get the first corner in a lot of different ones yeah yeah early on
07:34it's
07:35just he was thought maybe he could go to 20 the more it's gone along it's could he get he
07:39yeah
07:39probably will be there 12 but i mean he may not like based upon what they've addressed for me right
07:43now it's delane and styles is like my dream thursday so and let me run through the rest of the
07:48names real quick and then i'll throw this question to you uh number five on this list and this is
07:52john
07:52michauda's list of the the 20 players who could be picked by the cowboys in the first round
07:57monsoor delane cornerback lsu uh reuben bain edge rusher miami jeremiah love running back
08:03notre dame jeremiah love would be he is just he has slid and you're like uh what are we supposed
08:07to do here he's that good uh jermon mccoy cornerback tennessee under certain circumstances maybe they
08:12take him at 20 if he falls uh spencer finneau uh offensive tackle from utah francis malinoa
08:18offensive tackle miami keldrick falk edge rusher auburn we have probably not talked enough about
08:22him uh at around 6 6 285 pounds falk has the size and ability to rush from the edge or
08:28on the inside
08:28if the cowboys think he's more of an inside player they probably won't be as interested
08:31already having williams and kenny clark but if they think he projects better on the outside that size
08:36could be a good compliment to an undersized as a rock who yes as a stand-up head rusher he
08:40might be the
08:41third defensive lineman though if they draft him isn't this who john owning hates a lot of people don't love
08:46him because he's he's not he's not a twitched up edge rusher he's not a get to the quarterback he
08:52is a he's a powerful disengaged from blocks two gap kind of player that's what he is and so
08:58gary he's not a no no no no no edge no he's not i mean if you at auburn he
09:04did not get a lot of sacks
09:05he was not asked to just pin his ears back and rush he was asked to play two gaps so
09:08he's like more just
09:08kind of setting the edge you know keep an eye gap integrity things like that so if you want him
09:13to rush
09:13the physical tools a lot of people think he can they they're it's projecting out a little bit
09:17though it's a little like mozzie i mean mozzie wasn't an edge but they're like well mozzie wasn't
09:21asked to do that but we think he can develop pass rush because of the traits and then he didn't
09:24falk would be that but he should be somebody who should be a competent run defender immediately and
09:33then could be a powerful edge setter in a three down lineman look um avion terrell the cornerback
09:40from clemson that's uh aj terrell's brother uh akeem mesador edge rusher miami cj allen linebacker
09:46georgia dylan thenaman safety oregon uh colton hood cornerback tennessee cash is how the defensive
09:52end from texas a&m emmanuel mcneil warren the safety from toledo i would hate that pick would
09:57not like it that is a strong safety who i don't want doing anything in coverage really tj parker
10:02edge rusher from clemson has jalen thompson stopped you from doing anything at safety no because
10:07jalen thompson they're going to be so multiple and use so many different hybrid looks like he
10:10can't you still need guys in the secondary probably uh zion young edge rusher from missouri so that's
10:16your top 20 right there that he lists the projection i had last week i tweeted this that if you
10:21asked me
10:22today like what direction are they going to go i had said that i thought it would be reuben bain
10:28at 12
10:29from miami and then colton hood the cornerback from tennessee at 20 so colton hood to me is
10:37very similar in skill set and things to what quinion mitchell does so i think that that would
10:42be a a steady pick that i could definitely see christian parker do i mean we've i heard stuff i
10:48think you guys were around for some of it while we're in it but i mean i heard multiple times
10:52how
10:52people were really impressed with colton hood when he interviewed with the cowboys that they thought he
10:56was really really good um but if i told you you said that your dream is sunny styles and um
11:02who was
11:03the other one uh delay you're you're a bain fan though aren't you yes so if i tell you i'm
11:08gonna
11:08put bain in here and then i get a quinion mitchell style corner yeah that would be that you'd be
11:12more
11:12over that than delaying and styles at that point or do you just say i need a linebacker more than
11:17i
11:17need another pass rusher and stuff how much better is you know bain versus styles give me the give me
11:25better player i'm not doing that for need yeah i think styles is probably a little better more i
11:30think most everybody else would say bain's better i got the bain value though at the end styles could
11:35play all over styles can do anything you want i mean he's literally a former safety he could play
11:39inside linebacker he could probably rush off the edge he can do anything yeah no i would be in the
11:43room and i'm say all right 10 people who's the better player and if seven say you know one name
11:50that's who i'm taking i'm not taking styles because i need linebacker if seven say bain's going to be
11:54better and i've gotten gary and they do something else even at dn that's mid um no i'm getting the
12:02better are you factoring it would you factor in this scenario positional value at all when you're
12:07worried when you would are you sure i prefer to get the dn are you just taking whoever the better
12:12i mean i'd have to have seven people raise their hand that styles is better if six people raise
12:18their hand that styles is better i'm taking the dn does bain azaraku and gary sound to you like
12:24that's a competent pass rush for this year and i think that very well could end up being the
12:29pass rush collection they walk into the season with below the belt
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