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00:02Greetings to the valued followers of the International Association of Agricultural Cities.
00:06We are pleased to present the Eglis Citys Academy program.
00:09Today we are with Professor Dr. Ramazan Acar.
00:13Hopefully we will address the issue of pastures.
00:16Welcome, Professor.
00:18Nice to meet you. Thank you.
00:21I hope it will be a successful broadcast.
00:24Hopefully, it will be beneficial for everyone.
00:26God willing. Let's get straight to the point, professor.
00:28What is pasture? What is meadow?
00:31What is the difference between meadow, pasture, and grazing land?
00:33Let's start from here, if you like.
00:35Of course, with pleasure.
00:37Actually, pastures, meadows, highlands, and highland areas are defined in Law No. 4340.
00:43Pastures are defined as areas where animals graze to obtain fodder.
00:50Meadow areas are usually mowed and taken to feed the animals.
00:54They call them areas that are also used for grazing when appropriate.
00:59But this recipe alone is far too superficial.
01:04Let me put it briefly.
01:07Although the basic structure and style of animal grazing are based on ancient practices...
01:12Topotropic structure: non-flat, partially undulating, with low soil fertility.
01:18mostly formed by plants from different groups,
01:25We call areas where plants have grown to a suitable size for grazing rather than mowing, pastures.
01:31Meadow areas are generally flat lands, areas close to water, or areas with low groundwater levels.
01:37mostly dominated by the inability to do grammar,
01:40the plants are taller, therefore more than grazing
01:44harvested and used by feeding to animals
01:48However, we call areas that can be partially grazed when necessary and depending on the season, meadows.
01:56The names "yayla" and "yaylak" (highlands and pastures) are the result of a historical process.
01:59Because Turks have a nomadic lifestyle, they therefore have areas that we call winter pastures and summer pastures.
02:07These areas form what we call winter and summer pastures.
02:09Winter quarters are generally where they spend the winter season in warmer conditions.
02:14areas where they partially feed their animals,
02:17The summer pastures are the areas where people take their sheep as part of the nomadic lifestyle.
02:23We also use the term "yaylak" to refer to areas that are slightly higher in altitude and have abundant grass.
02:30Even today, plateaus still exist in Türkiye.
02:34However, nowadays, plateaus are used for grazing purposes,
02:38As is the case in the Black Sea region, and recently in the Taurus Mountains,
02:42These areas are used both for tourism purposes and by those who want to live in a natural environment, Mr. Mahmut.
02:51Professor, what is the status of pastures in Türkiye?
02:56Kukukiz's status in that sense.
02:58Law number 4342 was enacted; we didn't have a similar law before.
03:02Law number 4342 attempted to establish a specific status for pasture areas.
03:08The agricultural directorates, or agricultural organizations, are actually considered the owners of the pasture lands.
03:13However, some other organizations also receive support from this.
03:17For example, matters such as the improvement and management of these areas, and specifying the figures related to opening them up for grazing, concern the provincial directorate of agriculture.
03:27But there are penalties for using it improperly.
03:32Whether or not to impose this penalty is up to the governorship and district administrations.
03:37So, essentially, every pasture is legally allocated for specific uses to certain individuals or villages.
03:50From this allocation...
03:50Actually, that pasture belongs to the village, it's connected to the village, it's the village's property, right?
03:54Sometimes, this happens; there are also shared pastures.
03:56It can happen in one village or several villages.
03:58Sometimes, in older terminology, pastures belonging to districts or what we used to call sub-districts can be found.
04:05Of course, most importantly, if there is pasture land near the property of those who are engaged in livestock farming and are settled in our village,
04:11The allocation is made to whichever village is most suitable, the one to which the land they have traditionally belonged.
04:19There are also disputes between the two villages over these pastures, which are shared pastures.
04:24How is this resolved?
04:27Actually, the solution to these problems is already in the law.
04:31He mentioned that pastures belonging to several villages, pasture associations, and the establishment and management of pasture associations with the participation of three or four villages were discussed.
04:39The main issue here is livestock.
04:42Animal welfare was viewed as a matter of equal access to resources.
04:46The news, based on population data, was only published under law number four thousand three hundred and forty in nineteen ninety-eight.
04:52From that time until now, some articles of the law have been applied, as well as some reasons stemming from administration and the inadequacy of the physical infrastructure.
05:04We cannot say that we have implemented or that the entire law, that is, law number 440, has been implemented.
05:10Therefore, about a year and a half to two years ago, the ministry enacted Law No. 4043 on pastures.
05:17He said let's revise it.
05:19So let's update it.
05:20This law, which was passed in 1998, needs to be updated.
05:23Occasionally, certain parts of the law have been revised.
05:27Attempts have been made to renovate or modify it.
05:30But as you know, every law is made within a holistic framework.
05:33When attempts are made to revise the law piecemeal, sometimes things that go against the spirit of the law may emerge.
05:40The ministry had such a study underway for this purpose.
05:43They even rounded us up in Ankara at that time.
05:45The drafting of a new text for the pasture law involves revisions.
05:51No such study has been completed so far.
05:54I believe this file is currently at the Ministry of Health.
05:59Of course, current conditions are constantly changing.
06:02Türkiye's population is changing.
06:04The understanding of animal husbandry is changing, and so are the needs.
06:06I think this needs some updating.
06:10For example, sir, they come to the pasture and occupy it.
06:15A somewhat strong man comes and invades.
06:17The state sometimes also removes dust from the extraction process.
06:20That's the kind of news we're talking about.
06:22So how is this going to be solved?
06:24These kinds of problems exist right now, don't they?
06:26So, pasture encroachments have been a major issue recently, and this is the most important point regarding these pasture encroachments.
06:35local things.
06:38The Provincial Directorate of Agriculture has the authority to issue fines, but not to implement them.
06:45The allocation has been given to another authority.
06:47Therefore, now when the allocation is given to another authority
06:50The president's office is also subordinate to other presidential offices.
06:54This structure, or rather this particular structure, makes controlling the pastures a bit more difficult.
07:00So, in conclusion...
07:02So, we need a Pasture Law then, right sir?
07:05Of course, moaning is necessary.
07:07In fact, there is a need for a pasture organization, just like there is a pasture law.
07:11For example, you know this, I mean, as a farmer.
07:15You know, the same colleague in your profession.
07:18Ogem exists.
07:20There is the General Directorate of Forestry.
07:21They have very strict laws.
07:23Besides the laws, there is also an organization.
07:26The General Directorate of Forestry, and the regional directorates affiliated with the General Directorate of Forestry,
07:30It's a large structure that we could call branch offices.
07:33And it's quite an old and well-established structure in Türkiye.
07:36Whenever there is anything that goes against the laws of this structure, against what is within this structure
07:42They have a great deal of authority.
07:45That's why I'm saying this; I'm not talking about 14.6 million square meters of pasture land.
07:50That's a pretty high number.
07:51We also have approximately 6-7 million hectares of forest land that we can use as pasture.
07:57If we add that as well, in 14.6 it would be approximately 20 million or 21 million hectares.
08:03We end up with an area where we can keep the animals.
08:05Now this much space is available.
08:08We currently have 14 million hectares of pastureland.
08:12Officially, the ministry's records show 14.6 million...
08:17What are these pastures that will be used by the Ministry of Forestry, sir?
08:21Our total pastureland is 14.6 million hectares.
08:26Approximately 1.5 million hectares of this area is classified as pastureland across Türkiye.
08:31The remaining area is designated as pasture.
08:34There's something about forests that exists in the world, roughly speaking.
08:38Areas suitable for grazing have shrub formations if there are no trees or structures of high height that would be damaged.
08:45The forest and pasture need to be opened up in a controlled manner.
08:49For example, there are examples of this around the world.
08:51In some countries such as France, the United States, Africa, and Australia
08:57For example, in Spain, these areas with a semi-drift terrain are used as pastures.
09:02So what I'm saying is, let's be a little more reasonable, around 6 million.
09:07Actually, we have enough space to graze 7-8 million, or around 6 million, animals in forest areas.
09:13Our area includes what we call scrubland or bushland.
09:17And that's what I'm saying, considering this much space and many countries in Europe...
09:21I argue that this area, which is much larger than its surface area, needs a central office.
09:27The General Directorate of Pastures may have the same legal authority as that ship.
09:32What can this do?
09:33This could involve land reclamation work, land reclamation work that meets the needs of the villagers.
09:40The penalty and control system is under the authority of this general directorate.
09:44As part of the conservation system, we are now carrying out pasture improvement works.
09:46Protection is our biggest problem.
09:48You enter the forest and do something illegitimate to me.
09:51What kind of punishment?
09:52There is a law, isn't there, sir?
09:55Oh, of course, Mr. Mahmut Ali.
09:58Therefore, if the law has power, and if the public is also informed in parallel with the power of the law,
10:05So, you have to think about this from one side only; if someone is informed, it doesn't mean it won't happen.
10:10So we can easily both protect and improve these pastures.
10:14For example, one of our biggest problems is finding genetic material.
10:19In the form of seeds or filaments.
10:21Go ahead and ask the forest if it's experiencing a shortage of genetic material.
10:26They have approximately one hundred and thirty to one hundred and sixty nurseries.
10:30He's not experiencing any difficulties.
10:32It's important that you just state the number.
10:34Can we plant trees in this much area?
10:36As you already know, they can distribute large quantities of trees during tree planting seasons.
10:42This shows that that organization is very powerful.
10:46We also want...
10:46So, if you want the same thing to be made from Mera.
10:50So now, pasture ecology and forest ecology are different, but adapting them and establishing them within the General Directorate of Pastures is important for the future of animal husbandry in this country.
11:02very important.
11:03Let me explain why it's important.
11:04Now, before you even ask any questions, I'm so full of thoughts that I'm going to talk quickly.
11:13I'm leaving, sorry.
11:15Not at all.
11:15It's important for this reason:
11:17For example, recently, those who have governed this country for about twenty years have wanted to develop fodder crop areas.
11:26So they wanted to improve the agricultural land.
11:28They succeeded, or at least they partially succeeded.
11:30For example, in my first years as an assistant, we had about one to one and a half percent of our land dedicated to forage crop cultivation.
11:36Currently, this rate is approaching nine percent.
11:40We had approximately two to two and a half million hectares of land dedicated to forage crop cultivation.
11:46Excuse me, we have a forage crop planting area in decares.
11:49That's roughly nine percent.
11:52So, we're saying that out of twenty-five million hectares, nine to ten percent is planted with fodder crops.
11:57How many years has this been going on?
11:59We covered this distance in about fifteen to twenty years.
12:03Well, as you know, animal feed is a big problem, even in developed countries, it's expensive.
12:08When you ask if we can increase this further, there are other crops being grown within the field areas.
12:13Türkiye is a country with polyculture farming and a very high volume of plant production.
12:19So this is a country to be proud of.
12:21But when you say you've increased [the number of successful projects] in this country, you also have to push for expansion in other areas.
12:27So, it's clear what happened to those who made the decision, sir.
12:31We cannot see what we cannot achieve with this new conquest.
12:33We don't have the opportunity to develop our senior management.
12:35Therefore, our strongest asset is pastureland.
12:40They have fourteen to six million hectares of pastureland.
12:43You might be wondering, "What's this place like?"
12:46Should these pastures be rehabilitated, sir?
12:50Professor, approximately three-quarters of the pastures in Türkiye, the tea plantations, are what you call steppe or semi-steppe.
12:58It consists of areas.
13:00What does this mean?
13:00This improved quantity is not as much as you would like; it's mostly for grazing, but you can only grow grass from it.
13:09Especially in places like Central Anatolia, the Koya region, and Southeastern Anatolia, grass is difficult to grow and there is not much rainfall.
13:16These are the areas where this presence is most intense.
13:18Therefore, it's a bit challenging for us to do plant production here.
13:22We are a country that excels in these types of areas.
13:25We are a country with many such areas, but when we look at the Republic, our livestock numbers have also increased.
13:32So the area has remained the same, the number of livestock has increased, and the demand for these areas has increased.
13:37Now, if the number of animals using a unit area increases, the amount of load placed on a unit area also increases.
13:44This has led to the destruction of our pasture areas.
13:48The question might arise in our minds: Is this unsolvable?
13:52In our pasture improvement efforts, in the studies we have conducted recently, we have seen that this can be solved.
13:58From what we've heard from our professors so far, the examples we were taking were mostly the northern parts of America or Europe.
14:05Europe offers you...
14:06Professor, this is my first time understanding the concept of "meral reform." Could you please explain it to me?
14:10Professor, this is the pasture improvement project.
14:13When pastures first form, they have an established vegetation that we call climax vegetation.
14:19When humans first started using pastures, there were only 3-5 animals.
14:24Later, when livestock farming was opened up to trade, like other sectors of agriculture, and was bought and sold,
14:30Of course, people also want to produce more to profit from this.
14:34They were forced to use the animal as a commercial commodity in buying and selling.
14:38Each pasture had a limit on the number of animals it could support.
14:43But humankind, without measuring or weighing the consequences, simply loaded more animals to gain more profit.
14:49Because pastures are common pastures.
14:51Since it didn't belong to anyone, whoever could benefit the most from it would pocket the money.
14:58Therefore, a deterioration has occurred in these pastures from what we call the first climax vegetation to the present day.
15:07First, the most valuable herbs couldn't withstand the pressure and were pulled away.
15:12Then, when they say it's less valuable and so on,
15:15As is the case today, a large part of our pastures, especially in recent years, has been somewhat exacerbated by the drought.
15:22And unfortunately, our pastures have become grazing areas.
15:27The amount of vegetation covering their pastures had decreased considerably.
15:32And in this covered area, the amount of valuable grass has dropped below twenty-five percent.
15:38When it drops below twenty-five or thirty percent,
15:41that is, when the amount of grass that can be called grass decreases
15:43Pastures are hit by a compulsory improvement policy.
15:47He says, "You must reform them."
15:50"I can't take it anymore," he says.
15:52Our aim in reform is this:
15:54animals in pastures without harming the environment,
15:59an average that will allow us to obtain maximum efficiency in terms of livestock farming.
16:05Wherever we can, we develop improved pastures.
16:09So, it will be like this:
16:11There will be no decrease in productivity in livestock farming.
16:13At the same time, you will not cause any harm to the environment such as erosion, etc.
16:16But in the meantime, you'll get the maximum amount of animal products you can.
16:21Now we call this the optimum point.
16:23In every pasture that has descended below the optimum point,
16:26Pasture improvement works need to be carried out.
16:29Pasture improvement efforts are not solely for the purpose of producing feed.
16:33In Türkiye, here are all the resources you can think of regarding agricultural crops.
16:37Gene pools containing foreign genetic material, or wild genes, are called pastures.
16:45So, therefore, it's one.
16:46Secondly, pasture areas are places where water is stored.
16:52I'm also mentioning carbon sinks because they've become very important lately.
16:56These are carbon sink areas.
16:57Pasture areas are rehabilitation areas.
17:01So, due to reasons such as degradation in pasture areas, neighboring erosion, etc.,
17:06It also causes a decrease in yield in neighboring farmlands.
17:10One of the most important of these is,
17:13Türkiye is a crossroads of three major genetic centers.
17:18Iran, Turan, Europe, and the Mediterranean – these are three big things.
17:21It has an extraordinary level of botanical richness.
17:23A large part of this wealth comes from our pasturelands.
17:28So by protecting pasture areas, you're not just providing feed for livestock.
17:32At the same time, natural balance,
17:34Also, consider that the cost of a gene in the world cannot be measured in material terms.
17:40Let's say, for example, a pest appears in the lentils.
17:44You've tried, you've pushed and shoved, but you just can't find any of the things.
17:47But when you find a wild form of it in the pasture and bring it here...
17:50By preserving a resilient form, you save lentil farming.
17:54Therefore, genetic resources have no monetary value.
17:59And they are definitely the places where they should be established.
18:03Those around the world know its value,
18:06They are particularly good at establishing certain areas within these pasturelands.
18:11We have two gene banks in Türkiye, right, professor?
18:15No, we have two reliable gene banks.
18:17There are newly established ones.
18:18One of them is the Dadirisi in Ankara, and the other is very active in Izmir.
18:22But recently, with the support of our government,
18:26For example, an attempt was made to establish a gene bank in Konya as well.
18:30Of course, this is a matter of budget, work, and staffing.
18:35These things aren't easy.
18:36He doesn't become a local today, Mr. Muhammed Halil.
18:39Professor, I would like to come back to this topic of reform.
18:43For example, the pasture has deteriorated.
18:45Due to overgrazing and overwatering.
18:47What needs to be done there first?
18:49What are you doing?
18:49What needs to happen?
18:51Let me explain.
18:52Let me explain the process now.
18:54Because our villagers will also listen here,
18:56Our cities will listen too.
18:59They need to understand how the purge works.
19:01Applications are submitted.
19:02Firstly, those who cannot get enough feed from pastures,
19:06if the villagers who are suffering want to
19:10They submit a petition to the designated district directorates through the village headman.
19:13After submitting this petition, the district directorates here will process it.
19:17They send it to the pasture branch at the provincial directorate in Konya.
19:22The pasture department will take a look at them.
19:24After they've looked into it, for example, they have reporters.
19:29More precisely, they have coordinators.
19:32For example, I am a coordinator, a coordinator for three different provinces.
19:35They say, "Sir, there is such and such a request."
19:38Let's go take a look at the field.
19:40When we look at the field, if we consider the social fabric,
19:45if this is suitable in terms of ecological context,
19:48So if a suitable middle ground for reform is found, we will first conduct an on-site investigation.
19:56We will write a preliminary review report at the end of this inspection.
20:00So, if this location is suitable, we can then move on to the project preparation phase.
20:07After that, it's entirely the ministry's job.
20:11So, this is a beginning, an initial start, a petition from the village headman.
20:18Professor, I have a lot of questions to ask, but I think we'd prefer to collaborate on another program.
20:24Because time is running out.
20:26So let's talk about these types of breeding.
20:30Let's finalize our program now.
20:32Hopefully, we can discuss the other topics in another program, sir.
20:35Hopefully, because it's a very important issue.
20:38As you know, the cost of animal feed has now reached eight hundred and nine lira.
20:43Factory feeds.
20:44I'm not against factory feed, but...
20:46In Türkiye, if you try to raise livestock through factories by neglecting some pastures...
20:52That wouldn't be economical at all.
20:53Today, one of the biggest campaigns to abandon livestock farming is...
20:56Feed prices have risen excessively.
20:59I don't find fault with the factory or the people involved.
21:02Because the costs of producing raw materials are high.
21:05And in a large part of these, in a large part of the contributions
21:08because he came from abroad
21:10If you want to produce high-quality feed, the cost is high.
21:13But the truth is that
21:15There is a misunderstanding.
21:19First of all, you should not increase your own resources and costs.
21:23after you have used your resources which will reduce
21:26You need to look at the others.
21:28Attitudes towards grazing lands vary greatly around the world.
21:31The pasture is regarded as a matter of honor.
21:33Developed livestock farming, in developed countries
21:35There has been absolutely no encroachment on the pasture.
21:38It is protected very frequently.
21:40There are even privately owned pastures associated with this.
21:42A person has a private space.
21:44He engages in field farming.
21:45But they cannot obtain the product properly.
21:48These types of areas can be made profitable.
21:50so that it can continue
21:52the least expensive
21:54He does it in the form of a sunni pasture.
21:56And he continues to do so by raising livestock for himself.
21:59Let's move on to these.
22:01As a result of pasture improvement efforts
22:03Both main aspects were previously studied solely using grass formations.
22:08Now, also with a bush formation.
22:10We are carrying out pasture improvement work.
22:12We were the first in Türkiye to develop pasture improvement using shrub formations.
22:16Currently, I believe they are actively operating in twenty to twenty-five provinces in Türkiye.
22:20Pasture improvement efforts are particularly important in these steppe and semi-steppe regions.
22:24in areas where marginality has increased and production is very limited compared to other grass production
22:30We are carrying out rehabilitation using shrub formations.
22:32Here, it's done by planting.
22:34Another way we do it is by planting seeds.
22:37what we call grass formation
22:39They are carrying out a pasture improvement project at the bottom.
22:41Of course, who will make that decision?
22:43The decision should primarily be made by those who are experienced and knowledgeable in this field.
22:46what we call coordinators
22:48People need to provide it.
22:51People called coordinators
22:52Pasture improvement is difficult.
22:54It's not enough for him to just know the herb.
22:57The animal's behavior, the type of animal produced
23:00also the topography and ecological structure
23:04He/She needs to know it very well.
23:06Because sometimes these things can be very costly.
23:09If you don't receive anything in return
23:11Ultimately, the state budget is everyone's budget.
23:14But let me give you some good news right now.
23:17Recently, we developed
23:19projects, especially in marginalized areas,
23:22most of the land is already pastureland.
23:24Areas that can be considered marginal, different from the scanning areas.
23:27Shrub formation in these types of areas.
23:29We are carrying out our work by planting.
23:31We do these things in Konya as well.
23:33And our success rate is almost close to one hundred percent.
23:37Providing protection for two years
23:38to each of the village heads
23:40We can carry out pasture improvement.
23:42Let me make an appeal from here as well.
23:44I reinvent myself every two years, sir.
23:47Professor, two, or three years depending on soil conditions.
23:50After protecting it for two or three years
23:52especially in this shrub formation
23:55Economic lifespan has increased significantly.
23:57Thirty, forty, fifty years.
23:57No animals are allowed in there, right sir?
23:59That's how he gets protection.
24:00Of course, the animal shouldn't be brought in for two years.
24:02The reason for this is:
24:04can make the plant self-medicate
24:06It needs to acquire a structure.
24:08You know, plants get nutrients.
24:10It absorbs through the roots.
24:11In the shrub formation that we applied
24:14Most plants have roots that can develop quickly.
24:16drought resistant,
24:18Plants that can withstand harsh conditions,
24:19These are for two years
24:21nutrients they obtain from potassene
24:23They put more strain on the roots than on the above-ground parts.
24:27Plants resistant to strobut.
24:29It has a characteristic.
24:30Their brains are their roots.
24:31Roots come first.
24:33In order for those plants to survive,
24:35to be able to produce results under difficult conditions
24:37nutrients obtained from potassium synthesis
24:39It uses a large portion of it for root formation.
24:42After these became very strong for two years
24:45then to the hay sheds above
24:47They can withstand it very quickly.
24:49For example, the plant we are working with
24:50not Kohya prostrata,
24:52There is a plant called steppe grass,
24:53about six meters in two years
24:55The main root of the association can be traced back.
24:56Now, such a plant,
24:58Feeding values ​​are very good.
25:00such a plant is easy to find
25:02After that, you can't remove it from the soil.
25:04The plants in that water formation,
25:06root depths in perennials
25:08It descends about one to one and a half meters into the stream.
25:10The younger ones are around twenty-five or thirty.
25:13It goes down to centimeters.
25:15Now in the upper part where there is drought
25:17the seed in a place where there is little water
25:19It's very difficult to continue with that water formation.
25:22We need Australia to solve this.
25:25Israel, southern parts of America,
25:27Soyuz of the Union of Socialist Republics
25:29what they did in the former republics,
25:32What was done in North Africa and in Southern Europe
25:34We examined everything that was done, one by one.
25:35We saw that these were not the conditions we needed.
25:38They have achieved some success in challenging areas.
25:41So we decided to change this concept.
25:44That water formation alone is not possible.
25:46There is also a great deal of erosion.
25:48Currently in pastures in Türkiye
25:49The amount of erosion is thirty percent.
25:52Around fifty-five, fifty-six.
25:54This doesn't exist in any sector.
25:57It exists neither in the forest nor in the agricultural sector.
25:58It should also prevent erosion,
26:00and a sustainable pasture
26:01To ensure this, we switched to a shrub formation.
26:04Our heads are doing very well.
26:06It's not just about dribbling.
26:08In your pasture improvement works in shrub formations
26:11Each of the bushes is approximately
26:13It can grow to a maximum height of about one and a half meters.
26:15Easily used by animals
26:17It can happen.
26:18Its regeneration capacity is very high.
26:20Its ability to regenerate itself is very high.
26:22These are also on the surface of the soil,
26:24He says that pasture areas are microclimate zones.
26:27What does this mean?
26:28One of the things you get with your roots,
26:29It's like the saying, "If it falls on the neighbor's house, it might fall on ours too."
26:33Therefore, on the edge of these
26:34the plants in that water formation
26:36because it is a suitable, optimum ecological condition
26:41Therefore, the plants here too
26:43supporting their developments
26:45as a pioneer plant or support plant
26:48You can consider these things.
26:49Over time, the intermediate parts of this shrub formation
26:52because it is not subject to severe erosion,
26:55They are resistant to wind erosion because they are not exposed to the sun.
26:58Because of this bush.
26:59The water at the bottom acts like an elevator.
27:01being pulled upwards, that is
27:03due to being pulled by shrub formations
27:06These also benefit from their roots.
27:08What is this for?
27:09We already periodically eliminate this shrub formation.
27:12Three to five years later, below this shrub formation
27:15until this year
27:16plants that cannot grow due to unfavorable conditions
27:19It is beginning to come to life.
27:20An example of this
27:21It has been seen in France,
27:23It has been seen in Australia,
27:24Southern states of America, such as Arizona and New Mexico.
27:28It has been seen in other states as well.
27:30They succeeded.
27:31Currently, Meral Islar is with us in Türkiye regarding the conflicts.
27:34as long as the formation is provided,
27:36unity was achieved within the village
27:37It would be great if the village gave us its word for two years.
27:41For example, last year
27:42Three villages in Konya
27:44We received the project.
27:46One of them is the one we all know.
27:48Güçükköy is nearby.
27:49We decided on a thousand acres of land.
27:51The livestock producers in Küçükköy told the village headman that we...
27:54We will protect this, sir.
27:56They came to the Provincial Directorate of Agriculture.
27:58We want two thousand decares.
28:00Now, we'll call that a magnificent area of ​​two thousand acres there.
28:05We will make reforms.
28:06With this latest technique we've developed, in Karaman
28:09We reformed the ten thousand dean Meral area.
28:12There are still areas we need to improve.
28:14What is our participation rate, you might ask?
28:15I used to work in that water formation.
28:17because these roots are weak
28:19We couldn't start.
28:20Two years later
28:21It was being destroyed.
28:22It was drying.
28:23To the dried-up place
28:23You can't take water there.
28:25Even if you try hard enough, it's all for nothing.
28:26So there was a problem.
28:29Right now
28:29Mr. Mahmut Ali, we have solved this problem.
28:33Able to grow in drought conditions
28:34able to provide feed for animals
28:35deep-rooted
28:37And
28:37economically for many years
28:39sustainable
28:40We work with plants.
28:44Thank you very much, professor.
28:45There are too many topics.
28:46Especially this
28:47in animal husbandry
28:48in terms of cost
28:49melancholy
28:50important stuff
28:51We filmed the topic, but...
28:52Hopefully another time.
28:53Let's talk about these issues.
28:55Thank you very much.
28:56Thank you for the information you provided.
28:58Now the time is up.
28:59as far as I understand
29:00Thank you too.
29:01I'm leaving from here
29:01Konya, Karaman
29:03those who listen to us
29:03in the surrounding area
29:05to our village heads
29:06And all my fellow villagers too.
29:07Unite yourselves.
29:09Two years of protection
29:09Make the necessary verification.
29:10The state gives you
29:12all kinds of support
29:13one penny
29:14He gives without spending.
29:15This is our state's
29:16magnanimity
29:17its size
29:18Let's use it.
29:19Because
29:20Why, you might ask?
29:21Look
29:22around here
29:22we made a pasture
29:23each village
29:24We see it in Karamanlı.
29:25My teacher
29:26Do more.
29:27My teacher
29:27Do more.
29:28surrounding villages
29:29as you succeed
29:29What do we want?
29:30he says.
29:31We now
29:31We are succeeding.
29:32Without needing water
29:34without the need for earrings
29:35your pasture lands
29:36We can make it bright green.
29:38All we want
29:39villagers
29:40what we did
29:41in exchange for expenses
29:42the guards of this place
29:44in its own field
29:44in unity
29:45if chicken is made
29:45livestock farming
29:47He won't die in these villages.
29:48Even
29:49It becomes profitable.
29:50Because we
29:51from factory feed
29:51higher quality
29:52free in the pasture
29:54will provide
29:54a bait
29:55we are providing these
29:56Mahmut Ali Bey.
29:57Thank you.
29:58this call of ours
30:00only Konya and
30:00around
30:01because we
30:01an international
30:02Thank you
30:03first, based in Türkiye
30:04all
30:05that is, from Istanbul
30:07Here's something from Edirne.
30:08Up to Hakkari
30:09From Samsun
30:10Up to Hatay
30:10everywhere
30:11We have members.
30:13Those who listen to us
30:13There are municipalities.
30:15Therefore
30:16all of Türkiye
30:17something that interests
30:17worldwide
30:19actually us
30:19interested
30:20From Africa
30:21From Albania
30:21From Azerbaijan
30:22Up to Posto
30:23We have members.
30:24But this is our call
30:25important.
30:26These pastures
30:27reforms
30:28that he can save
30:29in some way your
30:30with your studies
30:31We've seen it.
30:32Thank you very much.
30:33In another program
30:33See you soon, God willing.
30:35Thank you.
30:35Your achievements
30:36continue
30:37I wish.
30:38Hopefully
30:40with our livestock farming
30:41dealing with
30:42our farmers
30:42It will happen again.
30:43Türkiye more
30:44will be part of the crew.
30:45Thank you.
30:46Thank you.
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