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00:00On today's show, this was a horrific childhood
00:03Yeah, she's open the bottle, give it to us
00:07At two?
00:08At the edge of two, yeah
00:09She used to beat you, you told my team, with anything she could get her hands on
00:13Yeah, that's correct, yeah
00:13None of f***ing days!
00:19I'm your mother, you're joking!
00:22You're no mother of mine!
00:23You think you're some kind of mother?
00:26Yeah, really?
00:27Yeah
00:27I'm beating your heat!
00:29Carry on!
00:30Oi!
00:30Well done!
00:30Get lost!
00:31Go away!
00:32Go and do what it does!
00:34You have nothing to do with it!
00:37This is all because of you!
00:39Yeah, whatever, Caroline
00:40Eating your kids, eating them, giving them alcohol
00:44What does it mean over your two legs?
00:48I wish you were f***ing dead!
00:50You're attacking you!
00:51Now what can you do?
00:53You're eating your kids!
00:55Really?
00:55Your family takes a new time!
00:58I'm getting on this!
00:59Right, that's it!
01:00Does anybody know?
01:01How do you start this?
01:05She's saying she's with him when he's actually in a secret relationship with me behind her back
01:11Oh, whatever, bye bye!
01:13Wait for the money situation, I think
01:16Yep
01:30Thank you, my friends, good morning as ever a big, big welcome to the show!
01:39Now our first guest today, Denise, is here to expose her mother, Angie, in her words, as the worst mother
01:44in England.
01:44Denise says that Angie beat her and her sisters, never let them have a bath and instead of giving them
01:49food, at the age of two, she would give them alcohol and cigarettes.
01:54Denise is not here, she says to build bridges or form a relationship, she's here to get answers from her
01:58mum and then tell her in no uncertain terms, get out of my life.
02:02Denise is on the Kyle show that way.
02:10How are you, love?
02:11I'm fine, thank you.
02:12You look very determined.
02:14I am, indeed.
02:15I just, I just want to say to people watching this and people in the studio, it's very easy when
02:19you hear a headline, you know, my violent mum forced me to drink alcohol, we said just then about cigarettes.
02:24People just take that, this was a horrific childhood.
02:27Yeah, it was.
02:28Um, you are 21 now, you went into care at the age of six, you were adopted at the age
02:34of eight, but let's just talk about the first six years of your life, because some of what you've told
02:39my team, shocking.
02:40Yeah, they are.
02:42First memory, speak up as you can.
02:43My first memory, it was, it was awful, just like going to, um, her giving us fags, lit up, letting
02:51us have man shavers, and me shaving my hair, myself without her there.
02:56Alcohol?
02:57Alcohol as well, yeah, she used to open the bottle, give it to us.
03:00At two?
03:00At the age of two, yeah.
03:02She used to beat you, you told my team, with anything she could get her hands on?
03:05Yeah, that's correct, yeah.
03:06What?
03:07Anything, like a slipper, anything, anything she can find.
03:11Are you scared of her?
03:11Yeah, a little bit.
03:16She never used to wash us, men always came first.
03:21Yeah, men always come first.
03:22So there was a succession of men that...
03:24Yep.
03:25And here's the side that people should try and understand, bullied at school as a result, bullied because of the
03:31way that you looked, the way that you were dressed, everything.
03:33Yeah.
03:34What was that like?
03:35It was horrible, just knowing that the person that gave birth to you actually made you that way.
03:41But at the end of the day, I feel like she's the only one who, well, I think that she's
03:48basically an egg donor, nothing more.
03:51I'll tell you something, and I mean this.
03:54Shut up!
03:57Me!
03:59Just lose the picture, please, of the mother.
04:02There's a lot of people that come on this stage, and frankly, they tell some horrific stories.
04:06Some of what I've read about yours is disgusting.
04:09It is.
04:09And it is a credit to you and whichever family fostered you, by the way.
04:13They're lovely pair.
04:13Well, you turned out great, and I mean that.
04:16This is...
04:17This is...
04:19This is...
04:19This is...
04:19This is disgusting.
04:20Now, the reason that you came on this show is this lady was on before, some time ago, with the
04:26latest in a string of lovers.
04:27And you and your sisters watched this and were so appalled, you went, I ain't having this.
04:32Yeah.
04:33I like what she said, I never want to go on the Jeremy Kyle show, but I come here today
04:35because I have to have my moment and I have to expose her.
04:39This is your mum, Angie, last time on the show.
04:42Take a look.
04:44You've been with Glenn for six months.
04:45It is the best relationship ever.
04:47Yes.
04:47Well, it would be, except that...
04:53This is...
04:54Oh, God.
04:55Oh, you have me to settle with, you all right?
04:57Yeah, yeah, I ain't straight enough, yeah?
05:00Oh, God, don't you start.
05:01Oh, God, don't you start.
05:01Okay, yeah.
05:02Oh, my God.
05:04I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:06Yeah?
05:06Yeah?
05:07I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:09I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:10I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:11I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:13I've done a lot of that, woman!
05:14That certainly is disgusting and racist.
05:16Did you send that?
05:17No, because I was down my friends at the time and I went down to the shop.
05:19What do you mean you were down your friends?
05:20That says your name.
05:21I know you sent those messages, and if you did, it is deplorable and disgusting.
05:24Fat mdog.
05:25I think you're a dirty little player and I think you're going to be found out.
05:28And I think you, right?
05:32Racism is disgusting on any level, right?
05:34I understand it!
05:35What did she say?
05:36You want to take me on?
05:37He don't like it when you skipped up.
05:38You're a liar.
05:39Yeah, you have been trying it on with Gina Gray.
05:41You have so many.
05:42Yeah, you have.
05:43I've seen the messages, mate.
05:44I want to go with that.
05:45Your friend is racist.
05:47She's got more heads on her legs than she's got a dog on her body.
05:51You agree with this, do you?
05:53Yeah.
05:53You're vile.
05:54You should watch him, but then you're racist as well.
05:58That was your mum.
05:59Yeah.
06:00What do you want?
06:01Do you want the truth?
06:02Do you want answers?
06:02Do you want a disowner?
06:03Why are you here, darling?
06:04A bit of everything, really.
06:05I want answers.
06:07I want a disowner.
06:08Everything.
06:09You name it.
06:09You ready for this?
06:10This is a woman who would give her kids the two alcohol and cigarettes.
06:13They all went into care because she neglected them to the point where social services said
06:16this is the only option that we have.
06:18This is a woman who's opening line to my team last night was,
06:21I'm the victim.
06:22I had my kids taken off me through no fault of mine, and now they all hate me.
06:27I need people to feel sorry for me.
06:29And she's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
06:34You are what?
06:36No!
06:36No!
06:37You should respect me at the end of the day.
06:39You're no mother of mine.
06:40No one else gave birth to you, apart from me.
06:43You are no mother of mine.
06:44Right?
06:44You are no mother of mine.
06:47No one else gave birth to you.
06:48You know it.
06:49Can I ask you a question before you start?
06:51She should respect you as a mother.
06:53Yeah.
06:53If you were any good as a damn mother, they wouldn't have ended up in care, would they?
06:57I'm going to be the milk dad for that one.
07:00You think you're some kind of mother?
07:03Yeah.
07:04Really?
07:04Yeah.
07:04I'm baiting your kids!
07:08I'm baiting them!
07:09I'm baiting them!
07:09What a thing!
07:10Threating them!
07:10Get out of my face!
07:11Get out of my face!
07:12Get out of my face!
07:13Get out of my face!
07:14Caroline!
07:15Oi!
07:15Get lost!
07:16Go away!
07:17Go and do what they do!
07:20I have nothing to do with these!
07:22You can always tell me your mouth, yeah?
07:23Send me messages!
07:24Oi!
07:24Go away!
07:25Yeah!
07:25Go away!
07:26Yeah!
07:27Oi!
07:30Oi!
07:31When I say, come on, go, your sister can do it.
07:35What sort of mother were you?
07:36A good mother, friend.
07:37Well, how is it that I've got three daughters and say you're the worst mother in the history
07:40of the world?
07:41Because Caroline has got control over all my kids!
07:44No, she hasn't!
07:45Yes, she has today!
07:46No, she has not!
07:48You have put yourself in this situation.
07:50My kids are my world.
07:52I tried so hard, but they ended up in care.
07:54Why did they end up in care, then?
07:56Why don't you ask you to answer me?
07:59Oi!
07:59Oi!
07:59I'm a good mum.
08:00I brought them into this world.
08:02I demand respect.
08:03You brought them into this world, abused them, and then lost them.
08:06Why would they respect you?
08:07Look at her!
08:08They only rang this show because they saw you preening on television and they wanted
08:11the world to know what you really are.
08:13Really?
08:14Yes, really!
08:15What about what you're like, then?
08:18I can't think of one moment in my life when I've given any of my four kids alcohol
08:22at two or a cigarette or beaten them so badly that social services took them away.
08:28If you want to take me on, love, deal in fact.
08:31All three of them think you're a disaster, and that is what you have to deal with.
08:35Look at her!
08:35Yeah?
08:36She's turned down on Claire.
08:37Not because of you, because of the people that adopted her.
08:40Because you were no good at your job.
08:42Fact!
08:43I'm good at my kids.
08:44I'm good at being at my kids.
08:45Why do they all hate you?
08:47Because you were a useless mother.
08:50Yeah, whatever.
08:50You picked men, didn't you?
08:51You picked men first.
08:52No, I don't.
08:53Talk to me, come on.
08:56Man after man, she told us.
08:58You do pick men after us.
09:00I always choose to pick my girls before men.
09:02No, you don't.
09:03Wait for this, right.
09:04Okay, then.
09:05I'm going to go to a break.
09:06Hold on, I'm going to go to a break, then Caroline.
09:07Lots more to do.
09:08Don't not go anywhere.
09:09I'm coming right back.
09:10Don't go anywhere.
09:10You want to know what she's like as a mother?
09:13Here!
09:14If you could be wrong, why can't there be some thought of the door?
09:17Where'd she drop me off my head?
09:22Caroline, Caroline, Caroline.
09:23You really are Scott!
09:24Get his voice out of this building.
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10:05Thank you very much, Julie.
10:06Welcome back.
10:07Before the break, Denise and Angie.
10:08You came out here.
10:09Denise and said my mother was the worst mother in the world.
10:11She was, yeah.
10:11Gave you alcohol, cigarettes at two.
10:13Not there.
10:13Went into care.
10:14You came out.
10:15You're having a go at her.
10:15Why are you having a go at her?
10:16Because she's a ****.
10:18I just like the rest of her sister.
10:19Is she?
10:19Now the other sister is.
10:20Caroline's on the Jeremy Carl show.
10:22That works.
10:29Where are we?
10:30Get out of my face.
10:31Really?
10:31No.
10:32This is all because of you.
10:33Yeah, whatever Caroline.
10:35Using your kids.
10:36Eating them.
10:37Giving them alcohol.
10:38What are you talking about?
10:41Shut up.
10:43Get off.
10:43Go away.
10:44Do something in a car.
10:45Go away.
10:47Go away.
10:48Go away.
10:49Go away.
10:49Shut your mouth, yeah?
10:50Shut your mouth.
10:51Get off.
10:51I'm talking to her.
10:52Get off.
10:53I wish you were **** dead.
10:54Yes.
10:56Answer me one question.
10:58You wish your daughter dead, yeah?
11:00Seriously.
11:01One minute you're talking to me really nicely on Facebook, Caroline.
11:03Why would anybody talk to you nicely?
11:06I was only a week ago.
11:07What was your upbringing like, Caroline?
11:09My upbringing.
11:10I was being better off standing careful when I was born.
11:13She said you're the one person she's ever met in her life who should have been sterilized.
11:17That's what she said.
11:18Yep.
11:18You should have **** kids.
11:19You should have stopped after me.
11:22And you should have put me in care.
11:24No.
11:24When I was born.
11:25Why would I want to put you in care when you were both, Caroline?
11:28Because you were no kind of mother, as you can tell.
11:31Otherwise we wouldn't be on here, would we?
11:34Seriously.
11:35You're the one who put me on here, Caroline, not me.
11:36Yeah.
11:37The amount of times I tried finding your Facebook to get you just...
11:40Why would I want you?
11:42Seriously!
11:44What are you?
11:45Your mother!
11:46No!
11:47You're not!
11:48You're nothing to any of us!
11:51Why are you engaging me?
11:53We're not going to be.
11:56Yes, you are!
11:57We're making it into it again, mate.
11:59Let's see what happens to you.
12:00You're trying to say that you're going to be the mother.
12:02What's he going to do with you anyway?
12:03What's my **** done?
12:05Got to do with you?
12:07You sent her a message saying you wish I did.
12:09Yeah!
12:09I do wish I did!
12:11That's your own **** brother!
12:12You did first year!
12:13Yeah, that's your own **** man of mine!
12:15Yeah!
12:15Yeah!
12:17I love you!
12:19I love you!
12:20You're going to get off this stage and walk out of my life!
12:25I'm not getting out of my life!
12:26Off this stage you're talking!
12:28You're going to get my sister's life and just do one!
12:30Yeah!
12:30Yeah!
12:31Because none of them want to know you!
12:33We're better off without you!
12:41Otherwise you wouldn't be tearing up in your life!
12:45Because you're numb!
12:46Right!
12:47Actually, you're wrong!
12:48You ever apologise to your kids at all for anything?
12:51No!
12:51I've not done nothing!
12:53Because you have!
12:53But at least you've done everything!
12:55I've done it!
12:56You've done nothing wrong!
12:57No I don't!
12:57Then why on earth are they here saying what they're saying?
13:00And why is he the next in a long line of dumb men?
13:04I'm the one that's been a better mum to my kid than you've ever been!
13:14Now you have to do yourself a different thing!
13:16It's the reverting us!
13:18Day in day out just get up and walk!
13:20No!
13:21Seriously!
13:21Who's that?
13:22I'm scared of you lot!
13:24Sit down for me now please!
13:25Fine.
13:26So Glen's the latest in a long line we met him before!
13:29He says, Angie's a great mum!
13:31Ha ha!
13:32Really nice!
13:33Glen's on the Jeremy Kyle show apparently!
13:41She's still married!
13:41Tell me to someone!
13:43No!
13:43So what?
13:44So what?
13:44At the day, you've sent her a message, all she's done is come down to you in the car!
13:49What?
13:49You see that, you see me!
13:51And if you want to meet I will beat the f***!
13:54But then I write it up!
13:55I've seen all the text messages!
13:56Go on and write it up!
13:57I've seen all the text messages!
13:58Go on and write it!
13:59I see all the text messages!
14:00Go on and write it!
14:01Where's the proof?
14:02Where's the proof?
14:03Where's the proof of those text messages?
14:04Go on and your phone!
14:05Yeah, you see glad a car. Yeah, I'm not saying to Caroline. Yeah, you said
14:27If I was gonna do something I would have done it used to go
14:30That's what you think I would have done. Yeah, she gonna do why you defend
14:35And you was walking down the road with your child smoking drugs
14:38It's not drugs!
14:40It was drugs!
14:42It's a dump.
14:43So if you wanna start, yeah? What?
14:46Who are you?
14:48Still. Another sister. What's your name?
14:50Patricia. Are they telling the truth, darling?
14:52Yeah.
14:53Was your upbringing like that? Yes.
14:55That's three of them!
14:57You're holding on to your lady. Why are you sticking up for a woman who was painting a dreadful mother?
15:02You weren't even there!
15:03The thing is though, I was there.
15:05The thing is, why are you sticking up for her?
15:07I've seen all the threatening messages.
15:09No, no, but what do you think of her as a mother?
15:11She's a good mother.
15:11How do you know that when all of her kids think she's a nightmare?
15:14Wouldn't one of them say...
15:15You weren't there, mate!
15:16You don't know us!
15:18You don't know nothing!
15:20You don't know us!
15:21You don't know us!
15:21She's been telling you lie after lie!
15:24If that's the case, get her to do a lie detection then!
15:26I'm not doing any more lie detectives with you, love!
15:28Then you'll find out it's the truth, but no!
15:30Yeah?
15:31Yeah?
15:31She does one!
15:33She found it!
15:33You've been sending her threatening messages!
15:35Yeah, I have!
15:36And I admit that!
15:36So, yeah!
15:38What?!
15:39Leave her!
15:40Leave her!
15:42I'm there!
15:43You said it!
15:43You actually sent her!
15:44Put it back straight!
15:45Give him email messages!
15:47Well, after that...
15:48Please put us through!
15:49Ah!
15:49Right over here!
15:51Why are you trying to say that?!
15:51Yeah get her on stage?
15:51Yeah get her on stage!
15:52Get her there!
15:55Give him a candidate please!
15:57Give him a Henstage!
15:59Why can't you be some sort of daughter?
16:01You want to know what she's like as a mother?
16:04Dear, I was six oppreted...
16:06Why can't you be some sort of a daughter?
16:08Why don't you listen?
16:11Why don't you listen to what she's saying?
16:14What's she doing?
16:19One at a time, shut up and sit down, shut up, what was that story?
16:26I was dropped six months old and then when I was six I was pushed on a scalded fire and
16:32I got the scar and every bit of my face, did it happen, yes or no?
16:38No, never, you just said it wasn't me, so it did happen, what's he going to do with
16:44you anyway?
16:44I'm trying to help them.
16:45No, you're not, you're defending a woman is indefensible.
16:48I just want to know, why the hell, if you knew half the story, you would walk away from
16:53this woman.
16:54Tell my team that their behaviour is unacceptable.
16:57Well, what do you expect?
16:58She has been an awful mother.
17:00Patricia, can I hear from Patricia a sec, are they telling the truth?
17:04Yeah, it even got to the point, because I want to let her stay with me, she wished my
17:08little boy were dead and all.
17:12That's your grandson, yeah, you are.
17:15Was the upbringing what these other two said?
17:17If I also remember, I don't actually remember half of my childhood until I went into care.
17:22Probably a good thing, darling.
17:23And I'm not being funny, people like you criticise foster care and that, I'm not being
17:27funny, if they were really that bad then why are we like we are today?
17:29I'll tell you something.
17:30I'll tell you something.
17:32I'll tell you something.
17:33I don't want to know.
17:34I'll shut up, Glenn.
17:37You told my team they're ungrateful.
17:39How about you shut up, really?
17:39How about you shut up?
17:41You get off the stage and let us deal with her.
17:43Yeah, because this is knowing.
17:47It's your sister's mother.
17:49It's your sister's mother.
17:51You've got nothing as a mum, do you?
17:53And then you should say about your mother.
17:56It saved your mother.
17:57She's our so-called whatever you want to call it, right?
18:01She's the one who pushed us out.
18:02All I want to know is that you send in threatening messages.
18:07Because they're angry with you, donut.
18:11Yeah, well, so it's all right for you.
18:13We'll push it to push it, walking down the road, smoke their joint.
18:15They don't smoke.
18:17Sit down.
18:18And it's all right for you to defend a woman who gave their kids.
18:23I ain't on drugs, mate.
18:26What about the father she gave their kids cigarettes when they were two years of age?
18:29That's probably.
18:30She's right.
18:31Why don't you just get lost?
18:32Why don't they deal with them?
18:34Give me a favor.
18:35Get lost.
18:36Did you just say?
18:39Face up to it yourself now.
18:41Give some.
18:43Stop.
18:44Go on.
18:44Go on.
18:48Thank you very much.
18:50She can't do it without him, can she?
18:52You shut your.
18:55Why don't you shut the.
18:57Why don't you admit you failed them?
19:00Back off.
19:02Why don't you do that?
19:05Why don't you do that?
19:05Go on.
19:05Somebody get.
19:06What the hell are you used to?
19:08Go on.
19:09You're nothing.
19:10Why don't you admit you failed them?
19:11No.
19:12You won't be able to get out.
19:13They're only going where Glenn sends you, yeah?
19:15Don't shut that door on me.
19:17You don't stop.
19:17You're.
19:18I don't use.
19:19Don't say.
19:20All you fucking.
19:23Oh my God.
19:25Oh my God.
19:26What does it make you?
19:28You're.
19:28No.
19:29It's her age and you're.
19:30This is the best age you ever do, mate.
19:33You have a bigger.
19:34Yes.
19:35Nice.
19:36This way.
19:36Hold the doors.
19:37Why are you running away from your children?
19:40Right, that's it.
19:40You're walking.
19:41You're.
19:41You're.
19:42I'm getting on this.
19:44Right, that's it.
19:44Right, does anybody know.
19:46How did you start this?
19:47See?
19:48And now you are who Jeremy.
19:50Wish what she's really like.
19:53Ange.
19:54Ange.
19:55Can you explain to me?
19:56It didn't work.
19:56You're walking away because you know.
19:59Why are you walking away from your kids?
20:01Why are you walking away from your kids?
20:02Talk to them.
20:03Talk to them.
20:04She'll probably give her a doctor and go tell her.
20:06You are.
20:06Go away.
20:08You're.
20:09What for?
20:09What have I lied about?
20:11You're just lying on that.
20:13I know what happened.
20:14I know it's true.
20:15Sorry, it's all right for you.
20:16I'm not sure.
20:18You put them in care and they need an answer.
20:21I did not put them in care.
20:23You pushed me out.
20:24That's all.
20:24That's how they see it.
20:26Well, that's that not.
20:27Why don't I try to ever work with her.
20:30An answer.
20:31How can you do this to your kids?
20:34Really?
20:35You're standing in terror and in the park.
20:38You have no idea what you're doing.
20:42And you wonder why you have no idea what you're doing or what.
20:46I've finished your job.
20:47It's a while for you to hit me with and push me while I'm struggling then.
20:51How do you ever win that?
20:52Go away.
20:53Go away.
20:54Go away.
20:55Go away.
20:55Go away.
20:57Go away.
20:57Go away.
20:57Go away.
20:57Can I make a suggestion?
20:59Why did you shut me in the freezer?
21:00You don't want anything to do with your daughters?
21:02No.
21:02I don't know.
21:03You don't have a love.
21:04Why don't you run away down a hole that you came from?
21:07Come here, girls.
21:08Absolutely pointless.
21:09How the hell do we get out of here?
21:10Hold on.
21:11Come here.
21:12Come here.
21:15Careful.
21:17Come here.
21:21Come here.
21:22Listen.
21:22Listen.
21:23Just listen.
21:23Come here.
21:25Caroline.
21:26Caroline.
21:27You literally are scum.
21:28You're here with someone like Anne which will cheat on you every day.
21:33Day in day out.
21:34Come here.
21:35Look at me.
21:35Look at me.
21:36Just listen to me.
21:38You are going to sadly get nowhere.
21:40Listen to me, all of you.
21:41Come here.
21:43Some people come here and they want to try and get an answer and they get it.
21:46Because that's not our mother.
21:47But you know what?
21:48I want to say this to you, right?
21:49I know.
21:49I know.
21:50And we'll work with you.
21:52Seriously.
21:52Get his voice out of this building.
21:55You will kill yourselves up here if you spend the rest of your life, look at me,
21:59expecting anything from that woman.
22:01You have to put it, I don't know where you put it, you have to get on with your lives
22:05as sisters because if you keep this anger, right, which is understandable, you'll never
22:09move forward.
22:10I think you are, and I said it about you, what you went through and I've read it and what
22:14you've been through, she's a disgrace, okay?
22:17But we want to bring this down and I just want to say, look, I feel amazing by the way.
22:22I get completely where you're coming from.
22:24All three of you are saying it.
22:26Anybody would feel the same.
22:27You just have to wash your hands of that, right?
22:29Great, come in here.
22:30We're going to calm this down, all right?
22:31Yeah.
22:31Are you all right?
22:33I appreciate you being on.
22:34Are you all right?
22:34Yeah.
22:35Go to a break.
22:36Back after this.
22:36Don't go anywhere.
22:37She's landing 24-7.
22:39He calls himself the biggest player in Britain.
22:41He is, he is.
22:42He puts it about all the time.
22:43Have you slept with him as well?
22:45Yeah, I have.
22:46Have you slept with him as well?
22:50Aren't you sleeping with all three of these women, have you?
22:53I'll f*** you mate.
22:57Your mother apparently wants to say something to you.
22:59Do you want to say it?
23:11Thank you very much indeed.
23:12Welcome back.
23:12My next guest today, Phillip, who is here to demand that her boyfriend David's obsessive ex-partner Heather stops trying
23:17to have sex with him.
23:18She says Heather cannot keep her hands off David and is here to tell her to back off once and
23:22for all.
23:23Please welcome Philippa to the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
23:30Right, and how are you?
23:32I'm fine.
23:33You look terrified, don't worry mate.
23:35I'm somewhat mystified by this.
23:37You're with David?
23:37Yeah.
23:38Yeah.
23:39And his ex Heather...
23:41Yeah.
23:41..is trying what?
23:44Well, she's texting him.
23:46She's texting things in.
23:48She comes down when she gets paid.
23:50You're on a long line.
23:51I'm not being disrespectful.
23:52We've done this before.
23:54Mm.
23:54He had another girlfriend and that Heather was trying it again.
23:57Watch this clip, ladies and gentlemen.
23:58Watch this.
23:59It's been before.
24:00Go on.
24:02His fiancée, right?
24:03When I turned around and told her straight, yeah, that you're cheating on her, he turned around and he lied
24:07to her face.
24:08But then, what it is, is he's going, oh no, I ain't done nothing, I ain't done nothing.
24:12She lied.
24:13So when did you last have sex with him?
24:15Uh, yesterday morning we did a ****.
24:21She's done a lie detector to prove that in fact you have slept with her.
24:25Have she?
24:26Well, if that's the best...
24:27Have I slept with her?
24:27Really?
24:28Well, why did you...
24:30Why did you refuse to do a lie detector then?
24:34I didn't want to do one.
24:35Why didn't you want to do one?
24:36Why didn't you want to do one?
24:36I don't have to do one.
24:37Because he's going to find you out to be a liar.
24:38Well, guess what?
24:39No.
24:40Guess what?
24:40I don't have to do one.
24:41I don't have to do one.
24:43In the last two weeks you've had sexual intercourse with David.
24:46She said yes.
24:47I don't understand your motives, but she was telling the truth throughout the test.
24:51Oh, whatever.
24:53Whatever.
24:54Whatever.
24:55Who's the one who gave me chlamydia?
24:57Who's the one who gave me mouth?
24:59How did yous the one who passed it on to me?
25:01How the **** did I know I had it?
25:03You've got chlamydia, but you just said you hadn't been sleeping with her, you idiot.
25:07So, without wanting to upset you, you're with him?
25:11Yep.
25:12And he's still sleeping with her?
25:13Yep.
25:14Why are you with him then?
25:19Do you believe that they're absolutely at it?
25:22Or do you think she's making it up?
25:23Seriously.
25:24Do you think he's cheating on you?
25:26Or do you think Heather's making it up?
25:29You don't know what to think, do you?
25:30No, she's 7.
25:33Watch.
25:35Take a seat.
25:36What do you want?
25:38Basically, I've come to make a confession.
25:40The Philippa, David's so-called girlfriend that he's telling everyone.
25:44David's your ex?
25:45Yeah.
25:46Right?
25:47She's saying she's with him when he's actually in a secret relationship with me behind her back.
25:53He slept with me and yesterday morning when I went to pick my friend Katrina up to come to the
25:58show, he actually kissed me.
26:00When was the last time you had sex with him?
26:03Mmm, maximum two weeks, maximum two weeks ago.
26:06Why would you have sex with somebody who's with somebody else?
26:09Because what it was was he was saying he'd split up with her.
26:13He's been telling you he loves you, doesn't he?
26:14Yep.
26:15It's a secret relationship.
26:16He's been saying he loves me, yeah, and that he misses me and that yesterday he rang me while I
26:21was in the hotel.
26:21So what are you here for today? To laugh at her or what? Why are you here?
26:25To put my point and prove on and to tell her, right?
26:28Do you want him yourself?
26:29I don't know what he wants. It's what he wants.
26:31What about what you want? What do you want?
26:33I want, fair enough, yeah, I do love him, right? But if he carries on the way he's going, then
26:38I don't want nothing to do with him.
26:39So today he needs to make a choice, yeah?
26:40Yeah.
26:44You look really gutted, like you knew that was coming. You don't believe him at all, do you?
26:52She's been, he's been going out of me for a month and two weeks.
26:56A month and a half, then.
26:58Well, yeah.
26:59And he's still with me, even though he's going out of her.
27:03I don't actually think, you know what I'm going to say?
27:05I'm going to get her out, right?
27:07She says secret relationship, I've been having sex with him behind her back, right?
27:10I mean, I'll say my bit in a bit, but you talk to her first.
27:14Have you met this woman before?
27:16Heather's on the Jeremy Carr show, again.
27:24Why do you look so smug?
27:26Nothing, it's true. I told you, right, before you, you know when we were in the minibus?
27:30Oh, God.
27:31Do you know when he was texting me? Do you remember?
27:33Yeah.
27:34Right? He was texting me, fair enough, I text him.
27:36Do you know when he was turning around, when you were ringing him, where are you, when you're coming back?
27:40Do you know where he was? He was at my flat.
27:42But why are you so smug about it? You've done it.
27:45It's just been me, yeah? I've asked him, right? You can ask me. Everyone, ask her. I've asked him who
27:53he's with last night in the hotel.
27:54Why don't you say no? Hello? Why don't you stop sleeping with him and act a bit more classy, love?
28:00That might be a good idea.
28:02No, no, no, no.
28:03No, no, shush. Not fair enough.
28:05All you do is come here and say, I'm sleeping with your boyfriend.
28:07He patently just uses you for sex and you seem to get some kick from this.
28:11She's going to dump him because she's more intelligent than that.
28:14Why are you putting up with this?
28:15The longer you do whatever he wants, he's going to laugh at all of you, isn't he?
28:23Sir, you should have a problem. Why are you with him?
28:27How does he get so lucky anyway?
28:30I'm being serious. Why?
28:33Nothing.
28:34She has nothing from school, so apparently...
28:36Are you in love with this it?
28:38I love him, but I don't love him.
28:39Well, he obviously doesn't love you because he has sex with other women.
28:41And he obviously doesn't want to be with you because he's having sex with her.
28:44Why can't you both bang your stupid heads together and work that out?
28:48Let's get him out.
28:50David's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
29:00What are you looking at me like that for?
29:02Because I can.
29:03Is there a problem?
29:04Because your hand's not straight or is it your head?
29:06My hand's not straight.
29:08My head's straight.
29:09Keith, you think...
29:10You know what?
29:10You're stupid and you really annoy me because the longer you put up with this BS, you just think it's
29:14funny, don't you?
29:14You're well out of this, mate.
29:15You should tell him where...
29:16You've been sleeping with her, yeah?
29:19Yeah, when we split up.
29:21What?
29:22Yeah, when we split up.
29:23When who split up?
29:25Me and Philippa.
29:25I thought you were with Philippa.
29:27We split up and then I slept with Heather, that's it.
29:31Talk to me.
29:32You never split up with me.
29:33Yes, we did when we was in...
29:34So you're saying...
29:36You're not saying anything.
29:37You're all...
29:37Why are you putting up with this?
29:40Do you want to be with him?
29:41Yeah.
29:42All of them to bits.
29:45No, the fact...
29:46This ain't the problem we've come under for the fact is, is it?
29:49My sex life ain't the thing we've come under for.
29:50Yes, it's because you keep having sex with lots of different women.
29:54No, it's not.
29:54What is it then?
29:55The fact is the money situation we've come under for.
29:57She owes her money, yeah?
29:59Yeah.
30:00What about the fact you're having sex with both of them?
30:02And?
30:05And you are prepared to put up with...
30:06Because I'm not bothered, you know what?
30:08Who are you?
30:09I'm Heather's...
30:09I'm Dave's friend.
30:10Who?
30:11I'm Heather and Dave's friend.
30:12Really, and what do you think of this?
30:14They need to bang their heads together and decide what they want to do,
30:16because I'm s***ing sick of it now.
30:21Sorry, have you slept with him as well?
30:23Yeah, I have.
30:24You've slept with him as well?
30:31You're prolific. Can you explain to me, 50-year-old man, obviously, at the end of his life, really,
30:37what is it about Dodgy Dave that seems to... How does that happen?
30:41I don't know. We were just, like, really, really close, and we went out before, and I don't know.
30:46I just really like him. He calls himself the biggest player in Britain.
30:48He is. He is. He puts him out all the time.
30:51Is he good in bed, is he? Yeah, he is.
30:52Why?
30:53He knows how to do it. He knows how to use it.
30:56He knows how to use it.
31:01David, apparently you know how to use it. You might need to explain to Steve later, but just do me
31:05a favour.
31:06Which of these three women was the best in bed for you?
31:09Don't answer that! Don't answer that!
31:13Why?
31:13Because I don't...
31:14You're going to come in the top three, aren't you?
31:22I've always wanted to come in the top three. Who's the best in bed, then? Who do you want to
31:25be with?
31:26You can't carry on like this. You can go on about money. She owes her money.
31:28Whatever. That's a few quid.
31:29This is about you.
31:30You keep sleeping with everybody, and you're loving every damn minute of it.
31:33And even I'm beginning to get a little bit jealous of you.
31:34Mind me, I'm going to say something, yeah?
31:35Oh, here we go.
31:36I turned around and say last night, yeah?
31:38Oh, well, I'm in my way.
31:39I'm waiting for the money situation.
31:45Can you come with me? Because I'm getting... I'm losing the will to live here.
31:48But it's fine. I'm off to do the Olympics again.
31:51Let's go.
31:52Has he done?
31:54What's happened?
31:55David, David, David, David, come here.
31:58Oh, you're sleeping with all three of these women, have you?
32:01Oh, fuck you, mate.
32:02He's a disgrace, and you allow him to get away with it.
32:05And as long as there are women like you going, oh, we love David, he's going to carry on.
32:08It's not about the money. It's about the fact you keep...
32:10Yeah, precisely. That sums up your brain capacity, doesn't it?
32:13Who's going to be with David? Because I feel like I'm stuck in the middle of it.
32:15What do you mean, who does he want to be with?
32:16Why don't you not go, I don't want to be with him at all?
32:19You actually...
32:20I'll go on the show, and I said, no, if you stay in the...
32:25He's told me last night...
32:26Do you know what? I would run for the hills, and I would run for the hills.
32:29I've done this too often. You and you are worth it to each other.
32:32Whatever. Put your hat straight, little man.
32:35Have a round of applause.
32:42APPLAUSE
32:44Now, for this next story, we're going to do things a little bit differently.
32:47I'm going to go to the green room to meet a guy called Ian.
32:49He was contacted by the team just a few days ago
32:51on behalf of a woman who was looking for her father.
32:55Loads to this story. Find me those cards, Will.
32:57This guy is 43 years of age.
33:01It's a bit of a mystery, this one. Come with me.
33:04There we are. Thanks, Danny.
33:07How are you, sir?
33:09Hi, how are you doing?
33:10Nice to meet you. Thanks for coming on. You all right?
33:12Yeah, what's up, bro?
33:13What are we doing? Why are we here? Tell me.
33:16Er...
33:16Received a call several days.
33:18You had a call several days ago from?
33:21From, yeah, from my TV.
33:24Er...
33:25Just asking about my dad, really.
33:27Asking if I knew about my dad, Gerald.
33:32Er...
33:33And basically, after that, er...
33:36After a few conversations,
33:38it came to light, something to do with my sister.
33:42Right. This is basically what happened.
33:44We get a call from a young girl,
33:48Ibi,
33:48who is desperate
33:51to try and help her mother, Gail,
33:54fill in some blanks in her life.
33:56Right, I understand.
33:58I think we're all somewhat in the dark,
34:00but the truth of the matter is
34:01we found out via you.
34:03Yeah.
34:05Your dad, sadly...
34:06Yeah.
34:07...passed.
34:07About 96, yeah.
34:09Now, this girl, Gail...
34:11Yeah.
34:12We believe, obviously, is his daughter.
34:16What we have to do,
34:17we've always had to do it,
34:19is obviously tell the truth
34:20and get as much info as we can for people.
34:23OK.
34:24Now, you've always known
34:25that there was a chance
34:26of a long-lost half-sister or sister, right?
34:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:29What were you told?
34:31Well, I was told, er...
34:33that, er...
34:34when she was young,
34:35well, obviously, she was born
34:37before my older sister,
34:39who was no longer with us, er,
34:41but...
34:42I was told that her mother was, er...
34:45Your dad basically had a relationship with him?
34:47Right, he had a relationship with someone
34:48before he met my...
34:49I don't know if it was before he met my...
34:50How old are you? You're 43?
35:21I'm 43.
35:21You're 56.
35:21And that's the thing that we've got to deal with today.
35:24Um, you know, she...
35:25she knows that her dad, sadly, has passed,
35:28but what she doesn't know
35:30is that there could be other people to meet.
35:32So what I'm going to do...
35:34That's hard to be.
35:34Yeah, absolutely, I imagine there is.
35:35So what I'm going to do, um...
35:38I'm going to go and speak to the daughter, Ruby.
35:39I'm going to speak to Gail.
35:41OK.
35:42Um, they don't know you're here.
35:44Right.
35:44And then we're going to bring you out.
35:45Is that all right?
35:46Yeah.
35:46I'm going to go to a break
35:47and try and make this work.
35:48Right back.
35:49Good man.
35:49Nice to meet you.
35:50My mum's grown up all her life
35:52without knowing who her dad is.
35:55You know that your dad...
35:56Mm.
35:58...past.
35:58I do know this from research, Jeremy,
36:01which is, um, something that I've accepted.
36:04Let me stop you talking,
36:05because he does have children,
36:06and I've got one of them here today
36:07who wants to meet you.
36:08No.
36:09Oh, my God.
36:15The most important thing
36:17is that you say your piece.
36:18In you go.
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36:58Thank you, my friends.
37:00Welcome back.
37:00My next guest today, Ibi,
37:01is here to make an appeal
37:02for her mother
37:03who has spent her entire adult life
37:04knowing nothing more
37:05about her father than his name.
37:06Now, Ibi says
37:07her mother has been trying
37:08for decades
37:09to locate any link
37:10to her dad and his family
37:12and today wants to share information
37:13with you, the public,
37:14in the hope that her mum
37:15can finally find some link
37:16to a side of the family
37:17she has never known.
37:18Nice daughter as well.
37:19Ibi on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
37:21That way.
37:31Bless your heart.
37:32Just really, from my point of view,
37:35what's going on?
37:37Well, my mum's grown up
37:39all her life without knowing
37:40who her dad is
37:42and I can only...
37:44Oh, my gosh, I'm so nervous.
37:45You're doing great, seriously.
37:46Yeah, I can only imagine, like,
37:48how it must feel
37:49to, like, have that kind of
37:50part of your life missing.
37:51When were you first aware
37:53as a kid growing up?
37:53Did she...
37:54I mean, that there was a granddad
37:56you didn't see, et cetera, et cetera?
37:57All the time, because...
37:59Well, even, like,
38:00starting from school and stuff,
38:02like, with us being mixed race
38:03or someone would be like,
38:04oh, where are you from?
38:05Like, and we'd be like,
38:07well, we know where we're from
38:09a little bit, but...
38:10So we always knew
38:11that there was a part
38:12of our life missing
38:13and just a bit confusing
38:15and then we got told the story and...
38:17What story?
38:18That, well, my mum had grown up
38:20from very small
38:21and she'd never had a dad.
38:22We'd...
38:23We didn't know where he'd gone,
38:24why and...
38:25What does she know about him?
38:27What has she been told
38:27at this moment in time?
38:29Well, we've heard that, like,
38:31he worked in a hospital
38:32with my nana
38:33so we know that he's...
38:35He worked locally,
38:36I think it was in Huddersfield
38:39and, yeah, that's all we know.
38:42It was difficult, wasn't it?
38:43You talked about mixed race.
38:45It was a difficult, difficult time
38:46for her and for you.
38:47For my mum, especially.
38:48I mean, I can only imagine,
38:49like, being born in the 60s,
38:51especially in somewhere, like,
38:52where she grew up in Yorkshire
38:54where, like,
38:55you don't really get to see
38:57a lot of people like her.
38:57She said she was the only
38:58mixed race person
38:59in the entire school
39:00and it kind of was hard,
39:03like...
39:05..just must have been terrible.
39:07In terms of your mum,
39:11what does she know?
39:12Does she know anything...
39:14What's she been told about him?
39:16Nothing.
39:17What does your mum mean to you, darling?
39:19Oh, my mum means the world to me.
39:21She's been there for us growing up
39:22and she's always kept strong.
39:24You never see her cry,
39:25you never see her show any emotion.
39:27What does today mean to her,
39:28do you think?
39:29Everything.
39:30I mean, it would be so lovely
39:31if she could just kind of
39:32get some answers.
39:32I know that she's probably
39:33never going to be able
39:34to get back the years
39:35that she's lost growing up,
39:36but put all that behind us
39:38and just try and make it all.
39:38Just some foundation, really,
39:40to her life.
39:40Yes, get her out.
39:41I really appreciate being here.
39:42Mum Gail from the Jeremy Carl Show,
39:44give a round of applause.
39:54I want to say something to you.
39:56If I end up with a daughter
39:57that behaves like that
39:58and talks about me like that,
40:00I think I'll have done a good job
40:01as a parent, I'll tell you.
40:06This has been a really difficult story
40:07for everybody
40:08and I know that a member
40:10of the production team
40:11has talked to you.
40:11I was alluding to that before.
40:13You know that your dad passed.
40:17I do know this from research, Jeremy,
40:20which is something that I've accepted.
40:22It could have been
40:23and it is a reality now.
40:27That's obviously really sad,
40:29but I know that your hope
40:31is that there are wider members of...
40:35Extended family members, possibly.
40:37What would that mean to you, Gail?
40:39It'd give a reality to that thought
40:41that I've had that there's someone out there
40:44and then I can open my eyes
40:46to new possibilities.
40:47I'm really fascinated
40:48and I hope you take this
40:49in exactly the right way
40:50because I think your daughter
40:52described it brilliantly.
40:53It wasn't easy for you, was it?
40:56Not at all easy,
40:57but life isn't easy.
40:59It is what it is, Jeremy,
41:00and I'm just concentrating
41:03on the positive aspects
41:04of our lives together.
41:06Done a good job, haven't you?
41:08We've tried.
41:09As a family, we're a team.
41:10When you found out
41:11that your dad had passed,
41:12how difficult was that to deal?
41:15Not knowing
41:18that he was around
41:20was bad enough,
41:21but then to know
41:22that he had a family himself,
41:24which I discovered
41:25he was married
41:26and he had children.
41:29I felt content.
41:30It was so post-fire as well.
41:31Yeah, he was over,
41:32yeah, in the next time.
41:33Well, let me stop you talking
41:34because he does have children
41:35and I've got one of them
41:36here today
41:36who wants to meet you.
41:37No.
41:38Oh, my God.
41:40No, I think so.
41:43Do you want to meet
41:43your brother?
41:45His name's Ian.
41:46He's 43 years of age.
41:48Which side?
41:50If you look over
41:51your right shoulder,
41:53never met him,
41:54it's your brother.
41:55There.
42:18Thank you for being here.
42:22Thank you for being here.
42:23This is your niece.
42:24It is so much better.
42:26It is so much better.
42:36Why?
42:37Jerry McCallis.
42:37This is it?
42:39You look good for 43, man.
42:41That's all I want to say.
42:43What does that mean?
42:45Gail?
42:46This is my biological brother.
42:48Yeah, you've got a sister.
42:50I have a sister.
42:51You've got a sister, Jane.
42:52And you're from Huddersfield?
42:54Huddersfield, yeah.
42:55Just the next door.
42:57I believe, is it Hallihacks?
42:59We're in Bradford.
43:00Is it Bradford?
43:00We're in Bradford.
43:02You've never seen a photo
43:03of your dad, have you?
43:04Never seen a photo at all.
43:06Have a look up there.
43:08Put it up, please, Matt.
43:09Oh, my Lord.
43:11Oh, my Lord.
43:11I'm some man.
43:12That's my...
43:13My God.
43:14Hey.
43:15Yeah.
43:16It'd be so...
43:17Nice shirt.
43:19Nice shirt.
43:20From the 60s, Jeremy.
43:22Yeah.
43:22Well, you need to know,
43:24which I think is beautiful.
43:25Yeah.
43:25He used to talk about Gail
43:27the whole time, didn't he?
43:28He did, yeah.
43:29Listen to this, Gail.
43:30All the time.
43:31Listen to your brother.
43:31Yeah, we've always known about you.
43:33You knew?
43:34We always knew.
43:35We've always had in our thoughts.
43:39We've had a picture of you as a baby.
43:42I'm not sure if it's the right one.
43:44I'm not sure.
43:47If you can just...
43:48I don't know if that's you.
43:51Is that you?
43:52I'm not sure.
43:54It looks very similar.
43:55I have some.
43:56I have some in the pod.
43:58Yeah.
43:58Let's put that up to the camera.
44:01I have something.
44:02What's that one?
44:03This is the one on the screen.
44:05What does this mean to you today?
44:07It's a reality to all those thoughts that I had
44:10that there was no one out there for me.
44:13And those people that doubted
44:14that someone was there.
44:17It's proved now.
44:18Yeah, you've got a really big fan of it.
44:19It's proved now.
44:21So,
44:23this is just miraculous.
44:25And I thank my daughter,
44:26Ibiza, without that,
44:27because I'd searched for so long.
44:33I think
44:34one of the things that we always say
44:37is these sorts of reunions,
44:39they're shocking enough to watch,
44:40to take part in.
44:41It must be difficult.
44:42So many things to ask,
44:44so many things to deal with,
44:45and we'll help you through that,
44:46because it's a long process.
44:47But it's a real pleasure to help you.
44:49Jeremy Kyle, I thank you so much.
44:50I love it.
44:51I love it.
44:51You can say Jeremy.
44:51Jeremy Kyle.
44:52Everybody says that.
44:54Jeremy, you'll start.
44:54And listen, it's a real pleasure to meet you.
44:56Look out at your sister,
44:57and we'll be thankful.
44:58If you'd all like to go off this way,
45:00is that all right?
45:00Very nice to meet you.
45:01Thank you so much.
45:02Give him a round of applause.
45:11So, so pleased we could help her.
45:13Now, before we finish,
45:15we're going to go back to our earlier story.
45:16Remember Angie?
45:17Lots of shouting.
45:18The daughter's so angry.
45:19Denise, Caroline and Patricia.
45:20Well, they've all calmed down,
45:22apparently, according to my team,
45:23and she has something to say.
45:25Come on, mate.
45:25We're going to go this way.
45:26This will be interesting.
45:27It's important on this show
45:28that we've said it before.
45:29It's very raw.
45:30It's a journey.
45:30It's also important that we can
45:32to get a resolve.
45:34These girls don't want a relationship,
45:36this woman,
45:36but this woman says she wants to say something.
45:39But mainly the fact that...
45:41You OK?
45:41We've got to keep it really long.
45:43Yeah.
45:43What do you want to do?
45:44I said what I...
45:45You want to say something to him, do you?
45:46Come on, then.
45:48I don't think they're expecting much, darling,
45:50but the most important thing
45:51is that you say your piece.
45:53In you go.
45:54Girls now shouting,
45:55no arguing.
45:56Your mother apparently wants
45:57to say something to you.
45:59What do you want to say?
45:59All right, girls.
46:01Oh, no, I've not been there for years.
46:03Right?
46:04And I'm sorry for that.
46:05But I do love you
46:06from the bottom of my heart.
46:08All of you.
46:12I'm in a relationship with my kids.
46:15Can I, before you shout,
46:16can I just say one thing?
46:18I am not here to convince anybody
46:20to do anything,
46:21but I would just respectfully suggest
46:24that if she sat there with him
46:26for even if it's two minutes of your life,
46:28it would help you all move on.
46:30I accept your apology.
46:32But from my point of view,
46:34there is no relationship.
46:35I'm sorry.
46:36OK.
46:37What about you, Patricia?
46:38Well, um,
46:40I have always said that
46:41I would like to come and talk to my mum
46:43and get answers,
46:44but what she said about my son
46:46and everything,
46:46I really don't,
46:47I just want to move on with my life.
46:49What about you, darling?
46:50I also accept your apology,
46:53but I also don't want a relationship.
46:55I've got my mum and dad now
46:57and I love them to pieces.
46:59None of you want a relationship
47:00with your mother, no?
47:01No, but we do accept your apology.
47:02It takes a lot.
47:03Fair play.
47:04Fair play to you for coming and saying it
47:06and I'm not having a go,
47:07but sometimes in life,
47:08our actions,
47:10you have to deal with the consequences.
47:11That's all I can say.
47:12But thank you
47:12and thank you all for coming
47:13and I'll leave you with Graeme.
47:14Give him a round of applause.
47:17Interesting.
47:17She calmed right down.
47:18She came to apologise.
47:20Too Little Too Late,
47:21I suspect,
47:22would be the thing
47:23that I would think I am
47:24for this morning out of time.
47:25If you want to be on my show,
47:26you need my help,
47:26you can visit my website.
47:27The details are on the screen.
47:29To my guests,
47:30to the audience
47:30and to you for watching.
47:31I mean, here you are.
47:32I'll see you very soon.
47:33Take care.
47:33Bye-bye.
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