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Seth and Sean hash out the Tide pod incident from yesterday, talk about if CJ Stroud's haircut inspires hope in Texans fans, and Jeff Stoutland stepping away from the Eagles.
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00:00Seth's got the Tide Pods.
00:02Yeah, we should probably talk this out.
00:04Somewhat dangerously.
00:05You and I haven't talked to each other or made eye contact.
00:07It's like me saying Seth has the machine gun.
00:09My two eyes haven't made contact with your one good eye in almost 24 hours.
00:14Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15That's not true.
00:15I'm lying, because Sean and I were a lot of people.
00:18So yesterday, for those of you who missed it, I rifled the Tide Pod at Sean in what I thought
00:23was going to be a playful and fun act, but the Tide Pod came out of my hand a lot faster
00:28than I thought it would, and it smacked him right in his left eyeball.
00:30Directly.
00:31I described it to somebody yesterday, Seth.
00:34If I had a piece of, you know how Velcro, you got the sharp piece and you got the fuzzy
00:38piece?
00:39If I had the sharp piece of Velcro, for some reason, taped to my eyelid, and you threw
00:44the Tide Pod with the other piece of the Velcro, it would have stuck to my eye.
00:47It smacked it dead center.
00:48It's directly centered.
00:50Dead center.
00:52And you were apologizing afterwards, and you were saying, you came up to me, and you're
00:56like, I really didn't mean to hit you in the eye.
00:58I'm like, I know.
00:59You don't have that good of aim.
01:01I know.
01:02There's no way you meant to hit me in the eye.
01:05The fact that you hit me in the eye is because you shouldn't have expected to have any precision
01:10on where you hit it.
01:11No.
01:12I think I would have.
01:13It just came out faster.
01:14I thought there was going to be some arc to it, but I kind of, because my shoulders are
01:19all screwed up, and I was like, I'm just going to lob it sidearm.
01:22It's hard to lob something sidearm.
01:24And I didn't see it coming, because I was looking at Reggie, and all of a sudden, something
01:28hits me in the face.
01:29Oh, you didn't even know that I was doing it.
01:31I didn't even see you.
01:32No.
01:33It was a sign off.
01:34It wasn't like angry or anything.
01:35No.
01:36People thought that I had another incident on Radio Row.
01:38We had just done antibodies.
01:39I was doing antibodies and a Tide Pod to you.
01:41Right.
01:42And I was going to throw it at you.
01:43Yeah.
01:44And I turn, and I go, Reggie Atatula, and then blammo.
01:47Right in the eye.
01:49You can watch it.
01:50It's on Twitter.
01:51If I had played it differently, I could have just claimed that something else hit you.
01:55Well, I mean, there's plenty of video footage going on.
01:57No.
01:58Eventually, you would have found out, but maybe you wouldn't have been as angry in the
02:00moment.
02:01I don't know.
02:02Well, I was angry in a way like when you get hit hard with something.
02:07I threw my pen down.
02:08Like if you're walking, you hit your head and you get angry, and you don't know who
02:11you're angry at.
02:12Yeah.
02:13Yeah.
02:14It was like I threw my pen down because I'm like, man, that hurt.
02:16JJ Watt said you could feel that pen hit a thousand miles away.
02:23Yeah.
02:24JJ watched it.
02:25I didn't even know you had thrown your pen.
02:26I couldn't make it through the whole video because I felt so bad.
02:28Yeah.
02:29So I told JJ.
02:30I was like, I didn't throw a pen at him.
02:31It was a Tide Pod.
02:32Yeah.
02:33And then he explained it to me.
02:34Well, actually, on something that I had actually done myself.
02:37Well, I wasn't surprised how many people watched it because then I saw that you had put up
02:43the grab of the video there.
02:46The reactions, well, for those who missed it, because we obviously have a, probably,
02:50by and large, a much different audience listening than when it happened.
02:53It happened at 10 o'clock Houston time yesterday.
02:56They were playing it on the afternoon show.
02:58Here's what it sounded like yesterday.
03:00Seth, antibodies to you.
03:01Oh, yeah, antibodies and Tide Pod to you.
03:03Thank you very much.
03:04Thank you very much.
03:05Hopefully one that you actually take with you.
03:06Reggie attitude.
03:07Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
03:09Whoa.
03:10What just happened?
03:11I hit him in the eye with the Tide Pod.
03:14Oh, my goodness.
03:15I'm so sorry, Sean.
03:17I hit this.
03:18All right.
03:19I really, I hit him in the.
03:21Oh, wow.
03:22All right.
03:23You're in the loop here on Sports Radio 610.
03:24I didn't think I was going to hit him.
03:25Oh, my gosh.
03:26All right.
03:27That's good.
03:28I hadn't listened to it yet.
03:29I had only watched.
03:30I didn't even listen to the audio and the video.
03:32I just watched it.
03:33It looked like a sniper hit me or something like that.
03:35It was.
03:36You could hear it on the audio.
03:37I don't know if we'd be able to pick it up or not, but that's a smack.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Yeah.
03:41Yeah.
03:42It looked like artillery and horseplay gone a little too far.
03:44Yeah.
03:45Don't throw Tide Pods, kids.
03:47And Seth and I were walking around to the media center together like three minutes later.
03:52So it's all good.
03:53I was kind of giving you your distance, though.
03:54I didn't want to.
03:55You know, if the roles were reversed, I would have done the same thing.
03:58I would have given you your distance.
03:59I've been prepared.
04:00I was prepared for that through 20 years of being married to somebody who has, like,
04:05has that fight or flight response of anger.
04:10Yeah.
04:11It's definitely the fight part of the fight, flight, flight, flight, flight or fight.
04:14So if I, like, oh, if I make the mistake of just simply existing in a place that she
04:21didn't expect me to be and it shocks her, I get that same look that you gave.
04:26Yeah.
04:27She immediately is, like, just rage.
04:28Okay.
04:29And then she catches herself.
04:30But I'm like, okay, he's just being Brandy.
04:32He's just being Brandy.
04:33I just, it'll pass.
04:34I just got to let it go.
04:35We are.
04:36I just got to give him some space.
04:37We are.
04:38I got to give Shard slash Brandy some space.
04:39It'll be all right.
04:40Okay.
04:41So the reaction that I saw, there were three reactions that I think kind of dominated.
04:45Yeah.
04:46One, the big one was, and I don't know how I feel about this one.
04:49The big one was, I feared for Shard.
04:51And this is one that was on social and on a text that I got from people that saw it,
04:56that we both know.
04:57I feared for Sean, but once he was okay, I thought it was hilarious.
05:00Yeah.
05:01Because if all you did was watch the video, you wouldn't know if Sean could see right
05:03now or not.
05:04It got so red, so fast.
05:05That's where, two things happened.
05:06One, immediately when I saw you got hit in the eye, I was on the field in Cleveland
05:11when Orlando Brown Sr. got hit in the eye with a penalty flag.
05:14Yeah.
05:15And it was a big story, kids, because Orlando Brown Sr. basically went blind in his eye
05:20just because a penalty flag hit him, and he ended up not being able to see right for
05:24about two years before he came back to the NFL.
05:27Did he ever get a settlement out of that?
05:28A huge one, reportedly.
05:30I can see out of this eye.
05:31I hadn't even thought that far down the road that I was going to get sued or something.
05:34Yeah.
05:35That's how angry you are.
05:36Did I just knock this off the air?
05:37Yeah, you knocked your camera off the air.
05:39Oh, that's how angry I was about the...
05:43So I was worried about that, and then when I got over to check on you...
05:46I really wanted a payday.
05:47I ran all the way over to check on you.
05:49Yeah.
05:50And it's like two steps, and your eye was so red.
05:52Yeah.
05:53It was so red.
05:54It felt like I was going to get a shiner out of it.
05:56I thought maybe the potted burst or something.
05:59That would have been bad.
06:00It's a pretty impressive...
06:01Detergent in the eye?
06:02Impressive by Procter & Gamble that it's that strong of a...
06:06Winners and losers.
06:07Overall, I would say Tide, a winner.
06:09Yeah.
06:10They got a lot of free publicity out of this.
06:11Yeah.
06:12And the Tide Pod didn't just burst on impact.
06:14Yeah.
06:15You can throw this thing around and stuff and have your own little personal paintball type
06:20games.
06:21That was reaction number one.
06:22Reaction number two was that I showed some excellent restraint by just merely putting the
06:26headset down and not turning it into an on-air yelling thing.
06:29Yeah.
06:30Like, what the hell are you doing?
06:31Or cursing.
06:32Or something like that.
06:33Yeah.
06:34I think maybe you would have.
06:36If I had just been sitting over here and laughing like it was no big deal or something.
06:39You were very empathetic.
06:40What a wimp you are, Sean.
06:42Yeah.
06:43That's probably what I should have done.
06:44But I felt bad.
06:45I think if you watch the video and the follow-up, I think it's pretty clear that I genuinely wasn't
06:50trying to do what I did.
06:53I wasn't trying to.
06:54There was a little bit of me in the moment that was rehashing the show in my mind.
06:57I'm like, what did I do to push after this place?
07:00The problem is, it came out of my hands so fast.
07:03I know.
07:04Aaron and I were talking before the show.
07:05I'm like, why did he throw a fastball at me?
07:07I knew it.
07:08I'm Cesar Salazar right now.
07:09The problem is, I think I gave it the same flick of the wrist as if I was throwing a
07:13baseball or something.
07:14But a Tide Pod is not as heavy as a baseball.
07:17It came out fast.
07:18It came out so fast.
07:19It came out fast.
07:20It was.
07:21And I knew as soon as it rolled off my fingers, I was like, oh, God, I hope I miss him.
07:26And I didn't.
07:27And you didn't.
07:28No.
07:29You didn't.
07:30I don't know what I was thinking.
07:31Third reaction.
07:32What is it with Seth in Radio Row?
07:34Yeah.
07:35There might be something to that.
07:37Because, you know, when Josh and I got into it like a decade ago or so.
07:42How long ago was that?
07:432018.
07:44So almost a decade ago.
07:45Yeah.
07:46That was, I mean, we'd been building up to that.
07:49Josh had kind of been agitating us and everything.
07:51You know, to point out again that I never left our table or anything.
07:55I did invite Josh to come over and speak to me man to man.
07:58And that's when everything got off.
07:59You called him a B.
08:00I definitely, though, there is something, man.
08:02I get too overwhelmed in these situations.
08:04And it gets to a point.
08:06Yesterday it wasn't like I was overwhelmed or anything.
08:08No.
08:09Maybe I exercised poor judgment though.
08:10Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:11Your guard was down.
08:12I get overstimulated.
08:13Yeah.
08:14Like I can't go into a Home Depot without sometimes having to stop and do breathing exercises.
08:18Yeah.
08:19Because there's just too much going on.
08:20Yes.
08:21God help me at one of the big HEBs.
08:23I'm a mess.
08:24So then we get in here and we're working for a week where by midday here it's just, it's
08:32too much for me.
08:33It's a lot.
08:34Yeah.
08:35So I got to really monitor myself today.
08:36Yeah, yeah.
08:37I might have to take a segment or two off.
08:38Well, you get to because we've got Nick Casario.
08:41Yeah.
08:42We recorded with Nick yesterday.
08:43You've got, I was saying to Aaron on the way over here.
08:45We've got like about 35 minutes where you and I can de-stimulate or whatever.
08:49I don't want to all of a sudden just bludgeon somebody with a mic stand for no good reason.
08:54Yeah, I would say, Aaron, that's part of your job today.
08:56Just because I don't like that.
08:57Keep the dangerous things out of Seth's hands or out of his radius.
08:59I don't like the cut of your jib.
09:01Bludgeon, bludgeon, bludgeon.
09:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:03A machine gun of Tide Pods at them.
09:05You know, and I still, my head still hurts a little bit.
09:08Maybe this is what it was.
09:09When we were at Alcatraz and you assaulted me with that cafeteria tray.
09:13That might be it.
09:14Yeah.
09:15You still have a headache?
09:16No.
09:17But it hurt more than I thought it would.
09:18Yeah.
09:19We were joking around in the gift shop and they sell these stainless steel prison cafeteria trays.
09:23And I'm looking at it and it's pretty lightweight.
09:25And I'm like, how do you always see in the movies people hitting somebody with the cafeteria tray.
09:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:30I'm like, that's stupid.
09:31So I had you hit me in the head with it.
09:33And it's not like you went, you know, really swiveled your hips or anything.
09:38I pulled the punch.
09:39It hurt.
09:40Yeah, yeah.
09:41And that was the broad side of it.
09:42If you hit somebody with the edge of that thing.
09:43Oh, dude.
09:44Across the ears or something.
09:45Yep, yep, yep.
09:46So, but I am recovered.
09:48I'm good to go.
09:49Just keep the lids on the Tide Pods.
09:53That's all I ask.
09:54You know what I'm going to do?
09:55I'm going to steal one of these Tide Pods right now.
09:57And I know that it won't burst in my bag because I've already thrown it at you so fast.
10:01I'm getting PTSD.
10:02I'm going to do a little sink washing this afternoon.
10:04Well, how could you?
10:05Why would you pull?
10:06I just had a traumatic incident with one of those yesterday.
10:08And you're just casually, like, pulling it out of the thing.
10:11It's like I'm twisting my...
10:13Guy comes home from Vietnam and says, hey, let's go look at this gun right here.
10:16Yeah, just kind of cleaning my Tide Pod in front of you.
10:19Yeah.
10:20Yeah.
10:21What are your intentions with my daughter, Sean?
10:22That's exactly.
10:23That's what my ex-father-in-law did with me with those damn guns.
10:26You know, we've had strangers show up to this property before and they've been dealt with.
10:30I'm not going to lie.
10:31I'm getting a little nervous right now.
10:33I stroke my Tide Pods.
10:34That's it.
10:35That's it.
10:36All right.
10:37So, we put up a poll yesterday, a Pender poll.
10:40And it was about C.J. Stroud's hair.
10:43The all-important topic.
10:44C.J. Stroud's hair.
10:45He asked Nick Casario a question about it yesterday.
10:47The A topic.
10:48And he ended up telling an anecdote about him shaving his head.
10:50Yeah.
10:51And we're like, see?
10:52You can listen to that in the next hour.
10:53That's right.
10:547 o'clock.
10:55We've got the full interview with you.
10:56All right.
10:57So, here was the question.
10:58And you were the one who chose these options.
11:00Yeah.
11:01So, I'm anxious.
11:02You haven't looked at this yet.
11:03No.
11:04C.J. Stroud cut his hair this week.
11:06He has a new look.
11:07How do you feel about this?
11:08The three choices are, this inspires hope.
11:12This is bad news.
11:14Why are we discussing this?
11:16Yeah.
11:17Initially, I had said this inspires hope was going to be the winner.
11:20In a tight race.
11:21Yeah.
11:22As I sat and meditated on this for like a good 90 minutes last night.
11:25I thought, I think it's actually going to be C.
11:27I think C's going to be the winner.
11:29By a pretty hefty margin.
11:30Mostly because people lie to themselves and others about what they actually care about
11:35or are interested in.
11:36And I would guess if we look at our YouTube.
11:38Anonymously.
11:39If we look at our YouTube numbers from yesterday, whenever we were talking about C.J.
11:41Stroud's hair, it was probably a pretty good number.
11:45Yeah.
11:46But every single person watching would be like, I don't care about stuff like this.
11:49I'm a serious football person.
11:51Yeah.
11:52I have respect for the sanctity of the game.
11:54Yeah.
11:55Don't even get me started on Belichick's snub of the Hall of Fame.
11:57Right, right, right.
11:58Yeah.
11:59Okay.
12:00So you think, why are we discussing this won?
12:01Yeah, I think it won by about 50%.
12:04You think it got 50% of the vote?
12:06Yeah.
12:07All right.
12:08Give him a ding, Ben, for the correct answer.
12:12Give him a ding for the percentage.
12:15Oh, really?
12:16If you're within 5%, we give you the ding.
12:1855% say, why are we discussing this?
12:20Okay.
12:21A simple majority.
12:22A simple majority, 55%.
12:2340.6% say that this inspires hope.
12:27Oh, wow.
12:28The remaining 4% and change say this is bad news.
12:31I think some of that, too.
12:32Even the people, the people who said that they, that said, why are we talking about this,
12:36might not have thought it through about how, oh, wait, yeah, a lot of times when people get a haircut,
12:40there is a, there's a psychological aspect to it.
12:43It's change.
12:44I've either, or sometimes they're depressed.
12:46It's either a reflection of their physical, of like their, their mental state or a conscious decision that like,
12:51yep, you know what?
12:52I'm moving forward in a different path from now on.
12:55This is, this is where, this, this is what I would want to know.
12:58This is where we've not reached this sophistication level of this tool known as X yet.
13:02I would love to know how many of the 40.6% who chose this inspires hope actually have done that themselves.
13:09Right.
13:10Yeah.
13:11You know, like I, you know, I got all F's my junior year.
13:15Yeah.
13:16That summer I went and I shaved my head and I pulled a 2.8 GPA.
13:19I cleaned my, cleaned my act up.
13:21Yeah.
13:22Or just, yeah, just started, you know, just, okay, well, I'm going to, I'm going to look like a, like a proper professional and I'm going to act a certain way.
13:30It is part of the thing, you know, you hear a lot of players say that, like, if you look good, you play good.
13:33Yeah.
13:34You know, that kind of thing.
13:35There is some element to that, like just changing your look.
13:37Yeah.
13:38You know, so.
13:39He doesn't have the haircut or the look of a killer, you know.
13:41I think he looks a little bit more like a killer now.
13:43A little bit more.
13:44Or a schoolboy.
13:45Maybe, you know, maybe a, maybe a, maybe a schoolboy killer.
13:49I don't know.
13:50Yeah.
13:51Yeah.
13:52Yeah.
13:53I mean, just like a schoolboy who also has a side life as a paid assassin or something.
13:58Sure, sure.
13:59I knew, I knew that's what you meant.
14:00Yeah.
14:01How about your guy, Jeff Stoutland, walking away?
14:03Yeah, the offensive line coach for the Eagles.
14:05His first offensive line coaching job in his career was when I was in college at Cornell.
14:09Yeah.
14:10And he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
14:12But he ended up being awesome.
14:13He picked it up.
14:14Yeah, it was his first time coaching O-line.
14:15Yeah.
14:16He still, he still keeps in touch with a lot of those guys, a lot of my teammates.
14:19That says a lot about him.
14:21I know a lot of you think I was an offensive lineman because I'm white.
14:23No, I was a defensive lineman.
14:25So, he didn't coach me.
14:26But I, I got to know him pretty well.
14:28And he's just an awesome guy.
14:30Yeah.
14:31He's kind of like the Will Anderson, a pure football soul.
14:34Like, just is just so passionate about everything.
14:37And his players just absolutely love him.
14:38Well, they did a feature on him on one of the studio shows this year.
14:42Yeah.
14:43About him and how him and his wife have the play, have the offensive line over at their house.
14:47Yeah.
14:48You know, for meals and things like that.
14:49Felt like real collegiate, that sort of thing.
14:51Yeah.
14:52And so, immediately a lot of, hey, the Texans could use a better offensive line.
14:56Why don't they go after him?
14:58I don't, it's, from his post, he said, I'm leaving the Eagles after 13 years with the Eagles,
15:04three different head coaches.
15:05So, it's not clear that he's retiring.
15:08Um.
15:09It sounded like there was some ambiguity on what his, like, what his input was going to
15:15be moving forward.
15:16Yeah.
15:17They got a new offensive coordinator coming in.
15:18Yeah.
15:19And he's got the title of run game coordinator.
15:20Stoutland does.
15:21But I think that title is going to be taken away from him.
15:23Uh-huh.
15:24There was definitely something going on with the new system coming in.
15:27Yeah.
15:28That was a little bit glitchy.
15:29I couldn't, it was all, I was just reading a bunch of quotes and bullet points from people.
15:33To your overall point, this doesn't feel like, you know, my 50 years in football have been
15:37great and I'm going to the beach now.
15:38Yeah.
15:39Yeah.
15:40And so, so it's, I think it's, I think it's a fair question.
15:45You know, Cole, I think people are enthusiastic about Cole Popovich and I think he did a good
15:48job with what was handed to him this year.
15:50But when the best in the business walks away and is available all of a sudden, you got to
15:54ask that question, right?
15:55Yeah.
15:56And it would be, you'd be firing Cole Popovich.
15:57You're not going to say, hey, no, we're demoting you for Jeff Stoutland.
16:00I, Cole Popovich, I don't think.
16:01Even if you said, we want to keep you around, he'd probably say, nah, I'm, I'm.
16:04Right.
16:05It's a demotion.
16:06Yeah.
16:07It creates too many potential bad dynamics.
16:09Yeah.
16:10Um, I think that for one, he's going to have Jeff will get a really nice offer somewhere
16:16else.
16:17If he decides to go to an extreme degree, but being, he might be, get paid like an offensive
16:22coordinator.
16:23Uh, he might go back to college.
16:24Who knows?
16:25You know, he started off at, he was at Alabama before Chip Kelly hired him to coach for the
16:29Eagles back in the day.
16:30Uh, so I'm, I, it would be cool.
16:33There's a part of me though, that I liked the improvements that they made with Cole Popovich.
16:37And you never, you might have a really good coach in Cole Popovich.
16:42That's already been working with these guys for a year.
16:45And I'm not sitting here saying that, you know, I, he's anywhere close to Jeff Stoutland
16:48right now, because I think Jeff Stoutland's one of the best this century.
16:51Um, I just, I'm not going to get my hopes up for it.
16:54And I also, I, maybe I have too much of a soft spot for Cole Popovich.
16:57I want to see it work with him.
16:58Yeah.
16:59I just, uh, I, this is the first time I can remember offensive linemen actually gushing
17:04about their O-line coach.
17:05And also, well, that O-line coach is a crusty old dude who screams and yells at him a lot.
17:10And sounds like, sounds like the, the TV version of an offensive line coach.
17:14When your players are gushing about your O-line coach, and he's a tough crusty dude that would
17:19be easy to hate if he didn't know what he was talking about.
17:22I like that.
17:23And I think from the practical standpoint, the Texans probably don't want to go out and
17:27pay $6 million a year for an offensive line coach.
17:30Right, right.
17:31I just look at the Eagles.
17:33I look at the Eagles.
17:34I look at Makai Becton.
17:35Yeah.
17:36He was bad when he was with the Jets.
17:38He gets with the Eagles.
17:39He rehabilitates his career.
17:40And then I think he signed with the Chargers and he wasn't good with the Chargers.
17:43You know, that's like that, that if you're looking at one isolated incident of a guy
17:47who had first round talent that only achieved to it in one place, it was with Jeff Stoutland.
17:52This is where, you know what?
17:53Yesterday, uh, I was so pissed cause I got this text from Aaron about Jeff's Aaron from Aaron
17:58Raybould about Jeff Stoutland retiring five minutes earlier.
18:01I'd been down in the hotel gift shop or the cafe there and I'm standing next to this giant
18:06of a human being.
18:07And even by NFL player standards, and we're sitting, we're in the hotel where all the
18:11pro bowlers are staying.
18:12It's a lot of human beings there, but it's, I'm this guy's like, I'm thinking that might
18:17be, uh, uh, Jordan, my later, the offensive tackle for the Eagles.
18:22And it was, but I didn't know that Jeff Stoutland had stepped down.
18:25I don't know if Jordan would have known it at that point.
18:27You could have broken the news to him and he could have cried in front of his wife and
18:31everything on your shoulder.
18:32He would have hugged you.
18:33I just, even before I realized it was Jordan, my lot of, I just wanted to, I just wanted
18:38to tell him, sir, you are a magnificently large human being.
18:41This is a, this is, I've been around a lot of large human beings, but this dude was scary
18:46looking.
18:47Yeah.
18:48Yeah.
18:49Yeah.
18:50Thursday here on radio row up next.
18:52We were talking about Frambo Valdez a couple of times this week.
18:55We will talk about him again because the saga is done.
18:58The book is closed.
18:59Should the Astros have done this deal.
19:02Not a lot of six foot eight.
19:03Yeah.
19:04He's a big dude.
19:05He's a big dude.
19:06Yeah.
19:07And put together.
19:08Built in a lab.
19:09Built in a lab.
19:10I don't know if I've ever been around a guy quite that size.
19:14All right.
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