00:00Have you started looking at mock drafts at all and come across your timeline?
00:03Just randomly a little bit.
00:04I kind of figured I'd wait until after the Super Bowl so I could start watching some of these guys.
00:08I know a lot of people obviously were paying attention to the Senior Bowl last week.
00:11Yeah, yeah, and it sounded like there were some interesting performances at the Senior Bowl.
00:17The Athletic did a two-round mock draft that I looked at on the flight here.
00:21I'm like, ooh, two-round mockaroo that has some stuff that I would approve of for the Texans in here.
00:27The first thing is I think a lot of Texan fans have an appetite for a running back in the draft,
00:35maybe even drafted highly in the draft.
00:38Jeremiah Love of Notre Dame, who is maybe the best player in the country,
00:42but he doesn't play a premium position.
00:44He's running back, Heisman finalist.
00:46He drops all the way to 18 to Minnesota.
00:49And, you know, I've had at least one player every year, Seth, that I'm like,
00:52well, if that guy gets within shooting range, you know, they got an extra two.
00:57You know, and the Texans are 28th.
01:00Supposedly the –
01:00So it's an extra two to get you up ten spots to get a running back.
01:02Nick said that they were trying to trade up around about the teens last year.
01:06Last year, yeah, yeah.
01:07Yeah, and that's when there were, you know, Gray Zabel would be playing in the Super Bowl.
01:12He was available as well as still – there are still offensive linemen and wide receivers there.
01:16That's right.
01:17Kind of – who knows who they were trying to trade up for, but that looked about right.
01:20Yep, yep.
01:21So if Jeremiah – my feeling now, if Jeremiah Love started to get in that range right there,
01:25boy, I would hope Nick's picking up the phone trying to move up.
01:27I know – I'm curious how people on the Tex line feel about that
01:30because I know there's a lot of people that feel like I wouldn't touch a running back
01:34in the first two rounds.
01:35Yeah.
01:35Go get him day three and day –
01:37The Texans are at that point where they've entered that category of teams
01:40where I'm cool with them drafting a running back in the first round.
01:44That – like your offensive line – offensive line or running back.
01:48This year it was offensive line or wide receiver.
01:50However, more likely than not, the Texans aren't going to even be drafting in the first round
01:55because that's the way it goes for them.
01:57Oh, they'll trade out, you're saying?
01:58He'll trade out, yeah.
01:59Yeah.
02:00Because he'll see more value in doing that.
02:02I mean, like he's done it the last two years.
02:03That's his history, right?
02:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:06Well, I'll tell you who they've got.
02:07They don't have him trading out.
02:09Hey, Ben, if you have the sounder, let's –
02:11Oh, yeah, Ben had it.
02:12He was ready to go.
02:14Ben's a pro.
02:14So, with the 28th pick, the Texans take Anthony Hill, linebacker from the University of Texas.
02:20Aaron Raybald, our engineer on site, is – he's acting like they just took him.
02:25He got the – he did the two fists, like folding your arms fist pump
02:29and got a big, ooh, smile on his face.
02:32This is what they say.
02:34Hill could be a bit of a wild card, but his blend of size, 6'3", 238,
02:39and athleticism is ideal for an NFL stack linebacker.
02:42Can he continue to grow in terms of processing the run game in the NFL?
02:46Hill's a tempting talent, but his landing spot likely will depend on how he interviews.
02:50I just – this was a confusing one to me because, for one,
02:53taking an off-ball linebacker in the first round is always a dicey proposition,
02:57and then especially when you feel good about your top two linebackers you have right now
03:01in Aziz Elshire and Henry Toa Toa.
03:04I do think that they're – and the Texans –
03:08the Texans will play with three linebackers on the field at times,
03:11but they run nickel when you've only got two linebackers on the field
03:14at one of the highest rates in the league.
03:18And it's just always a question of, all right, is that because, you know,
03:20that's specifically what they want to do,
03:23or is it because they just don't trust those linebackers in coverage situations necessarily?
03:28I think that's very possible.
03:29So, like, if you could get to a point where they could be more versatile in their scheme,
03:35that would be enticing, I think.
03:37But I still just – I don't have an appetite for taking an off-ball linebacker in the first round.
03:42Okay.
03:43This is where it starts to get – this is where I think Texan fans may start to roll their eyes a little bit
03:49if this were to happen.
03:51You and I just got done talking about running backs.
03:53So, let's do pick number 30 – there we go.
03:59Pick number 38.
04:00Give it to me, Ben.
04:02With the 38th pick, the Houston Texans select Jadarian Price, running back Notre Dame.
04:09Okay.
04:09Who, if he weren't on the same team as Jeremiah Love,
04:12would probably have had 1,700 yards of his own this year.
04:16Yeah.
04:16He was really good.
04:17He's a really good kick returner.
04:19He's a really good back.
04:20Like, he might be the second-best running back in the country.
04:23It just so happens he's on the same team as the first-best running back in the country.
04:27I would love that if they drafted Jadarian Price.
04:30In fact, that may be – because the Texans won too many games to get Jeremiah Love,
04:34that might be the player I start agitating Nick about.
04:36There's a part of me with Jadarian Price where I just wonder, all right,
04:41like, he's not a bigger guy either.
04:44Yeah.
04:44You've already got your smaller guy in Woody Marks that can be a receiving threat,
04:48and they didn't actually get to use him as a receiver as much once he had to become
04:52the main dude last year, that I've just got – I've got an appetite for a hoss of some sort.
04:57Okay.
04:57You know?
04:58He's not a squatty, like, 210, is he?
05:00He's like a long and lean 210.
05:02Who, Jadarian Price?
05:03Yeah.
05:03He's kind of a tightly wound package.
05:05He's 5'11".
05:07Yeah.
05:07That's basically – that's like – that's like Wilt Chamberlain is a running back.
05:10Yeah.
05:10Okay.
05:11So, I would be okay with it.
05:14I'd be okay with taking a running back.
05:15Maybe we differ on the style of running back.
05:17This is where I think the athletic goes off the rails a little bit here
05:21because the Texans have another second-round pick.
05:23Yeah.
05:24They got their own pick.
05:25That was the pick they got in the Laramie Tunsil trade where they just took Price.
05:28With the 59th pick, the Houston Texans select Jonah Coleman, running back, Washington.
05:35See, Jonah Coleman is a hoss, though.
05:37Right.
05:38He's a – he's a – he's 228 pounds, 5'9".
05:43That is a bowling ball, man.
05:45So, is this – that is a – that's a Maurice Jones-Drew sack of punch you in the jaw.
05:49This is Nick satisfying both of us.
05:51This makes more sense.
05:52Yeah.
05:52This gives you a one-two punch.
05:54Like, I'll do this.
05:54Some versatility.
05:56Get Sean off my back.
05:57You got an all-purpose back, but then you've also got Woody Marks who can be used in different ways.
06:01Yes.
06:01I'm telling you.
06:01I like that a lot.
06:02What do you think –
06:02I don't want – no, no, no.
06:03They can't draft two running backs in the second round.
06:05That's my question.
06:06Like, this – this – this – I was enjoying this mock draft when I got to Price, and I'm like,
06:10are you kidding me?
06:10No, there's a problem that if they'd already drafted a running back, Nick would be trading
06:14all around to try to get to a position that they want to draft.
06:16No team trade – no team drafts two running backs in the second round.
06:20Yeah.
06:21Not at that – I mean, it's just – it's a position where you can go find guys.
06:24To be – unless they say, like, well, we're really not going to plan on improving the offensive
06:28line again this year.
06:29So, we need as many running backs as possible.
06:31Can you imagine –
06:31That's when these guys inevitably get slaughtered in the backfield.
06:34Can you imagine if they took a linebacker and two running backs?
06:37Yeah.
06:37That's right.
06:38This whole draft would be a linebacker and two running backs.
06:40Two running backs.
06:40That feels – because that feels like a kind of a cherry on top type of thing, draft that
06:45you do when you already have a really good roster.
06:47Yes.
06:47But the offense right now is not that – they're not at that level.
06:50Yeah.
06:51Yeah.
06:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:52So, this is all – I think the big difference will be, all right, what do they do in free
06:55agency at offensive line and running back?
06:57Like, if they get super aggressive somehow and you actually, after free agency, feel
07:04like, okay, you know what, this is kind of rounding out some of the rough edges of the
07:08roster, I might – could be okay with this, but I'm highly skeptical.
07:11People weighing in on this on the text page, this is Nick Casario, not Sonny Weaver.
07:16Yeah.
07:16That's Kevin Costner's character in Draft Day who does some wild stuff in that movie.
07:22Hell, yeah, I would move up 10 to get a running back like Jeremiah Love.
07:26I would, too.
07:26Love is clearly the top prospect, just having even looked at any of the prospects, let
07:31alone running back, for this drive.
07:32I got to watch more of these kids because everybody knows what my standard philosophy
07:36is on this.
07:37They all suck, and I hate all of them.
07:39Every single one of them.
07:40So, they need to learn – they all start with an F.
07:41Yeah, they generally suck.
07:43Most of them will end up sucking.
07:45Even the ones who are going to end up being good will suck at first.
07:49So, I'm always very skeptical of –
07:50I'm totally amped for the draft now.
07:51And, Sean, this is how most GMs feel as well, too.
07:54That is true.
07:54They – like, guys, any GM that's actually got any hint of self-awareness or has been
08:00in the business for a while knows that, yeah, I'm going to be wrong on some of these
08:03guys that I like, and I'm going to be – I'm going to be wrong on some of the guys
08:05that I don't like.
08:06GM Bill O'Brien took it to the next level.
08:08Not only – most of the GMs think that they all suck until they draft them, and then they
08:12maybe feel in their minds like, but I got the ones that didn't suck.
08:14Yeah.
08:15O'Brien's like, his rookies suck.
08:16Yeah, they do.
08:17What do you mean?
08:17You just took them.
08:18His problem was he didn't realize that he could do something about it.
08:21We're like, yes, they do.
08:22When they show up, they're awful.
08:23And then your job as a coach is to get them better to the point where – you see all these
08:28other rookies on other teams that don't look like they suck?
08:30That's true.
08:31Yeah, those guys sucked when they first got in the building, and then they got coached.
08:34If you blindly just had to go by position for those three picks, no names attached.
08:38Yeah.
08:39If you had to go by position, what would you take with those three picks?
08:41I would take – okay, if it was appropriate and where they were and everything.
08:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:48I'm all offensive line at this point.
08:49All offensive line.
08:50Yeah.
08:51All three – 28, 38, 59.
08:54I want offensive linemen.
08:55Okay.
08:56I want as many as possible competing for you.
08:57I think there's people that agree with you.
08:58Yeah, it's just –
09:00No, realistically, two offensive linemen and one running back.
09:04That's what I would say.
09:05I would feel good if you have three picks in the first two rounds, if the Texans ended up getting an offensive line – two offensive linemen and a running back, I'd be excited about that.
09:14I would say offensive line, running back, I would be fine if they took another offensive lineman, but if I wanted to – if it had to be three different positions, I'd go O-line, running back, and then defensive tackle.
09:24Oh.
09:26I'm kind of – I've kind of given up on using a high draft pick as a defensive tackle.
09:31They haven't done it yet.
09:32I know, but – and I feel like that's what D'Amico in his heart of hearts would want most is a defensive tackle.
09:38But they've done such a good job with these journeyman types who come in and end up playing way above what their expectations are.
09:44I'd just like to see what he would do with one that's a first or a second round pick.
09:47Yeah, yeah.
09:48Oh, no, no, no.
09:48And I think D'Amico definitely –
09:50Yeah.
09:50I think that's – it's weird that they haven't actually gone swung big on either a free agent or in the draft.
09:58It just hasn't worked out that way.
09:59Yep.
09:59But, like, by and large, though, you had one of the best defenses in the league.
10:03And, look, defensive tackle is something that people were really concerned about going into last offseason.
10:07It ended up being the guys they had were just fine.
10:09They just all got injured.
10:11And it got to the point where you had to dig into your depth.
10:13Two guys that weren't even on the roster at the midpoint of the season ended up playing serious snaps for you in the playoffs.
10:20And it still wasn't the issue necessarily with the defense.
10:24They would have been better with the guys who were the starters in there.
10:27For me, it's all offense.
10:28If they pick nothing but offensive players this draft, I'd be cool with it.
10:32Поэтому and if there's a pool with it coming up with it.
10:34You guys start now withッmined with it.
10:35And that's what we're saying.
10:36But guys, they're on the road and they're trying to dilate them in this bucket.
10:37So we're not going to go with it anyway.
10:39There's going to be a tough battle for now.
10:40And we're going to be able to open it.
10:41Do you want to place a battle here?
10:42And then it's going to come out there.
10:43And with it, ś
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