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00:00Let's go to Rick in Palo Alto.
00:05Rick, boy, the floor is yours.
00:11Okay, first of all, I agree with your producer, Lucas.
00:15You guys, this is your job, okay?
00:18Talking is your job.
00:19But more to the point, Willard, I think what I've heard over the last hour and a half,
00:25two hours, is your take on the 49ers.
00:27I've been a 49er fan for 50-some-odd years.
00:31I've followed Walsh and Siebert, and I also design football for my players at Foothill.
00:38One of the things I want to mention is there are two disciplines going on in football.
00:42There's a coaching discipline, and there's a player discipline.
00:45And when you look at it that way, within two minutes, when I put on the 49ers and the Chicago Bears,
00:51I saw Brock Purdy under the center, and he was doing RPOs.
00:55I called my friends who bet on FanDuel or every kind of secondary betting.
01:00I don't bet.
01:01They do.
01:02And I said, change your bet to the 49ers.
01:04The 49ers are going to win this game.
01:05And they did.
01:06The same thing happened with Seattle.
01:08When I saw Brock Purdy in the shotgun, I called my friends.
01:11I said, they're going to lose.
01:12And the reason I'm saying that is because some of the opposition I get is, oh, well, Brock Purdy can see the receivers better.
01:19Well, that's one side of the coin.
01:21And the other side of the coin is the defense sees everything.
01:25And so that's why all the receivers and backs were covered to catch a pass.
01:29When I called everybody, I said, bet on the Seahawks because the 49ers are going to lose.
01:34And boy, did they.
01:35And that's why I'm saying one thing.
01:38It's Kyle Shanahan's take.
01:40And I agree with you, Willard, that he was a little afraid of the Seahawks.
01:44So that's why he went into the shotgun and he thought it would be better for Purdy.
01:47I thought he would change it at halftime, and he didn't.
01:51The reason I'm saying that is because Kyle Shanahan is an excellent, excellent coach.
01:55I'm not putting him down.
01:56I'm just saying the real discipline here is the understudy and the understanding of the coach.
02:02The coach didn't.
02:03He could have changed it at halftime.
02:04His player got beat up.
02:06The whole game he got beat up.
02:08I'll let you guys talk.
02:09Well, Rick, actually, before you go, I have a question for you.
02:12You sound like you know some football.
02:16You can't be making it as simple as if Brock Purdy's under center, the Niners win football games,
02:23and if he's not, they don't.
02:24You're not saying that, are you?
02:27No, not generally.
02:29But I can say within a few minutes who's going to win the game for the 49ers playing anybody
02:35because Brock Purdy is – you saw what happened against the Bears.
02:38He was able to get out of the pocket.
02:40He could do an RPO with McCaffrey.
02:44He could do with whoever – Robinson.
02:46And so the secondary, whoever the Bears or the Seahawks would have been, the linebackers,
02:55the secondary would come in.
02:57And so Brock Purdy was able to get out of the pocket and find a receiver or run himself.
03:02That didn't happen in Seattle or against Seattle.
03:05But, I mean, do you give any nod to, like, one of the things you're talking about was against the Bears.
03:11The other thing was against the Seahawks.
03:13Like, those are not – you're making them sound like they're equal things,
03:17and if the Niners had done the same thing, they'd have the same result.
03:19We won't know that until they try.
03:23And I called my friends and said, if the 49ers get under – if Brock Purdy gets under center in the second half,
03:29they could win.
03:30And if they didn't, they were going to lose.
03:32And that's a fact.
03:34Well, I don't think that we can say that that's a fact.
03:37And, by the way, I think when you say RPOs, you actually mean –
03:41That's a stat.
03:41You mean play action, because you don't do RPOs from under center.
03:46That's usually a play that you would do.
03:48Thank you very much, Rick.
03:49You would do that out of the shotgun.
03:50And the Niners don't do a lot of RPOs anyway.
03:52I don't know that I've ever seen Brock Purdy run an RPO.
03:54No, they ran some read option last week, and he ran it beautifully.
03:58And I'm looking at the fourth and one play that we've all referenced where he was under pressure,
04:03and they ran play action, and he was under center.
04:05So that was a play run under center that actually didn't work out.
04:09Pistol, shotgun, under center, hurry up, four wide, triple tight end.
04:15I don't know if any of that would have mattered, because on all the snaps I'm looking at for the fourth time,
04:19the majority of them, Seattle was just better in the trenches.
04:23And better in the secondary.
04:25And, like, the one thing I like about Rick's take, even though I think that the RPO thing is mixed up,
04:30and I don't think you can ever say, if you had done this, you would have won, and that's a fact.
04:35Like, no, we're not – as human beings –
04:38I have no idea what would have happened if something that didn't happen was tried.
04:42I don't know what the result would have been.
04:44I can agree that I would have loved to see Kyle Shanahan try some other things a little earlier than he did,
04:51because they did find a rhythm there in the fourth quarter.
04:53And it was a little bit too late, because it didn't end up with points,
04:57because the ball bounced off of Christian's hands, and all of that stuff.
05:00But I do like that at least what Rick is trying to do is go a little deeper into the conversation.
05:08That's really my only point today.
05:10I would love to see – and this isn't just about Brock, it's about all quarterbacks.
05:14I would love to see when we watch a football game, instead of just attaching – and I think you've made the same point.
05:22Instead of attaching a win or a loss, and instead of simply attaching a point total to the quarterback,
05:28let's talk about what was available, and then what did they do with what was available.
05:35What was available against the Bears?
05:37A lot.
05:38Yeah.
05:38What did he do with it?
05:39A lot.
05:40Yep.
05:41What was available against the Seahawks?
05:43Very little.
05:44A little.
05:44Yeah.
05:45Some.
05:45Yeah.
05:46Some.
05:46And what did he do with very little?
05:48Very little.
05:49Yep.
05:49But there's a difference between that and then, for example, what he did against Carolina.
05:55What was available against Carolina?
05:58Some.
05:59Some.
05:59Yep.
05:59What did he do with it?
06:00Not a lot.
06:01Very little.
06:01He messed up.
06:03Only three times in eight plays.
06:04Right.
06:06So, like, okay, the president of Pakistan, I'll give you that one.
06:12That was a poor performance.
06:15Don't call the game against Seattle a poor performance.
06:18It wasn't a poor performance.
06:20It was a great performance, but it wasn't a poor performance.
06:23Very little available, and he did not make major mistakes under duress.
06:30But there wasn't a lot available, and so they didn't get a lot.
06:33And if you want to grade him on a curve along with every other player who took an offensive snap
06:38and you did a test out of 100, let's just say that Brock had like a 60 out of 100, but
06:46based on the curve, that was probably right in the middle or toward the top of the middle.
06:51Like, who on offense played well enough to where you'd go, yep, that's an A performance
06:57on the offense.
06:57Yeah, I don't know.
06:58I don't know.
06:59Offensive line, I don't know.
07:00Like, Juszczyk had some good plays.
07:03Kittle, he didn't have any drops, but he didn't have any room.
07:06Right.
07:07Jawan got busted up a few times.
07:10Your various Robinsons made a few plays when they got the opportunity.
07:13Nobody on offense played well.
07:15Correct.
07:16Nobody was like, I don't know if anybody was like offensive.
07:19You know, Christian had the worst play, the one that we saw.
07:23Right.
07:24But, and I think a lot of the offensive line struggled.
07:28You know, they struggled to do their thing.
07:30And that's ground zero.
07:31They're the first ones.
07:33Like, that's the first line of defense.
07:35You got to do that, and then all the other stuff becomes available.
07:37And they didn't do their job.
07:39Yeah, and I do think that you have to tip the cap to Mike McDonald and what he did when
07:44he was at Baltimore.
07:45He did similar things where he confused Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan.
07:50They beleaguered the offense.
07:52They generated turnovers, which they only did here with one turnover.
07:55But he's kind of been a little bit of a kryptonite for your boy Shani.
08:00He's at his number now.
08:02Actually, I can unfortunately give you a different name that might be the kryptonite.
08:07Is it Vic Fangio?
08:09Lord Fangio?
08:10Four times.
08:11I don't think Kyle's gotten to 20 points yet.
08:13Four times.
08:15And he's one of the all-time great defensive coordinators in the history of our game.
08:19And he, again, has a talent edge this weekend.
08:24Yeah, he's got horses.
08:25Yeah.
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08:35All right.
08:35Nick Fidel in 15 minutes.
08:37We do want to do some Warrior stuff.
08:39One more call on this, though.
08:40Mike in San Jose.
08:41Hi, Mike.
08:41Thanks for calling.
08:42What you got?
08:44How's it going, fellas?
08:45So, me and a couple guys at work were talking, and we understand that when the Rams played last week, when it didn't really mean anything against the Falcons, they still trotted out their first string.
08:56And they played that game like they were playing to win.
08:58And they lost to the Falcons.
09:00Now, fast forward to us this week.
09:02We played the Seattle Seahawks.
09:05Hey, it was a tough game.
09:06They played their starters.
09:07They played our starters.
09:08We didn't come out on top.
09:09We lost the game.
09:10Why aren't the Rams getting judged by that loss when they played their starters against them?
09:15And it was a meaningless game.
09:16I get it.
09:17But they played all their starters.
09:18They still lost the game.
09:19Why are the Niners being ripped up like this after one game against Seattle?
09:23You want to understand?
09:24Oh, go ahead, Mike.
09:25I don't beat them convincingly, but that doesn't hold water to me and my buddies.
09:31We feel like the Niners are being judged a little differently in this situation when we know damn well the next game the Niners see.
09:37If they do see the Seahawks again, it ain't going to be that way.
09:41It ain't going to boil it down like it just did.
09:44Shanahan's got some plays.
09:46Mike, you want my real answer?
09:48Because I got a real straight answer for you as to why it doesn't sound the same.
09:53Because I think you're on to something, and here's why I don't think it sounds the same.
09:59Matt Stafford and Sean McVay have won a Super Bowl.
10:02That's it.
10:02But there's two things in the NFL right now that will get people off your back.
10:09One, win a Super Bowl.
10:11Or two, win the fans a Super Bowl.
10:15So if Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson win you your fantasy league, they are off limits.
10:21And if you win a Super Bowl, you are off limits.
10:24Notice the world's not really doing a Jalen Hurts thing this year.
10:28They might be in Philly because this is the most angry group of people I've ever met in my darn life,
10:31and they're mad about everything all the time.
10:33Check our social media feed with the collage of middle fingers.
10:36Exactly.
10:37And thank you, Mike.
10:37Appreciate it.
10:38But I don't care.
10:39Like, the world doesn't do this whole...
10:41I mean, Jalen Hurts has two angry receivers, does not have good numbers.
10:47Yep.
10:47The running back is having a recovery year.
10:49The defense outplayed the offense this year.
10:52The center retired, and they've had a bunch of injuries on their O-line and D-line.
10:55Right.
10:55But nobody's like, I'm not sure about Jalen Hurts because he's now minted.
11:00But he's covered in all of that armor because he won a Super Bowl last year.
11:06A green mint.
11:06Yeah, no doubt.
11:07I think it's a silly metric, and I know that bothers people because the Super Bowl is the thing.
11:12That's the thing that we're all going for.
11:15But here's how I would say it.
11:16I don't think if you win one, that automatically means you're just amazeballs all the time.
11:21And if you haven't won one, that that automatically means you're not amazeballs.
11:26That's not the way I look at it.
11:28It's not the way it is, especially this year where you and I could draft Super Bowl matchups.
11:35And maybe we can do this later in the week with all the different permutations.
11:38Maybe we wait until next week when you're down to eight teams.
11:40It's a little bit more straightforward.
11:42But I would guarantee you that your No. 1 pick on who versus whom and my No. 1 who versus whom, they're not going to get there.
11:51Because this year is wide open.
11:55And I think it's the nature of it.
11:57And I'm just looking at the Rams season.
11:59You lose to Carolina.
12:00You had three turnovers.
12:02They had none.
12:03You lose to Atlanta.
12:04You had three turnovers.
12:05They had none.
12:06Let's just boil all this down to the reality of what football is.
12:09When all these teams are kind of similar, you turn it over, you lose.
12:13They don't turn it over.
12:14They win.
12:15This is going to be.
12:17And boy, get ready to fade, fade, fade.
12:19Oh, God.
12:19This is going to be one of the hardest playoffs to predict, I think, that I can remember.
12:23Fade, fade, fade.
12:24I've got four picks in, and the four picks that I've made, 4-0, call my message phone.
12:31I've got four locks, and those four are going to win.
12:33Fade, fade, fade.
12:34The other two I'm not sure about.
12:35Fade, fade, fade.
12:36When you say 4-0, you mean that if we go against you, we'll go 4-0, right?
12:40Fade, fade, fade.
12:41Fade, fade, fade.
12:43Anyway.
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