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00:00Which sentence hits you better, like sounds more like where the Niners are at right now?
00:06Super Bowl contender or they're in a reboot?
00:09888-957-9570.
00:11How about Guru in San Jose?
00:13What up, Guru?
00:16Hey, guys.
00:17Thanks for taking my call.
00:18Thank you for making the call.
00:21All right.
00:22All right.
00:22Yeah.
00:22And I mean, just I mean, going through the Niners roster and looking at it, I think that they're going to be dependent on a lot of first and second year players this year.
00:33If you're just looking at the defensive side of the ball, I think I think the players who are the established veterans on that team are going to be Warner, Boza and and Demo.
00:46Right.
00:46De'Amico Lenore.
00:47Yep.
00:47Yeah.
00:48And so my thing is that it feels like every other starter or at least for the most part are going to be first and second year players.
00:57And especially considering Malik Mustafa is a second year player that's going to be coming off of injury.
01:03And I do believe that even though the unofficial depth chart came out today and Jair Brown is the starter at free safety, I think I think Marquis Siegel does take that job eventually.
01:13So just just looking at that scenario, how much youth there is, I think I think there's going to be a lot of inconsistency on that side of the ball.
01:22I don't think you're going to be able to see like market improvement over time just because it's hard to play defense in this league.
01:28And you you learn a lot of lessons there.
01:31Right.
01:31And looking and then looking at the offense, like the the the wide receiver core is going to be sort of patchwork until IU gets back.
01:38I think we're all in agreement there and and the offensive line still leaves, I think, a little bit to be desired.
01:45So I do think they can still make the playoffs.
01:47But for me, it's more of a 90th percentile, 90th percentile outcome instead of the median outcome, which I think is what you guys are saying with respect to like them being closer to the Super Bowl.
01:58But I'm really going to enjoy this year.
02:00I think that the Niners did make the right moves in the draft by getting younger and actually playing some of these players.
02:07I think it's going to serve them well in future years.
02:10And I am really excited about this here along with you guys.
02:13Yeah, thanks for taking my call.
02:15Thanks for making it.
02:16Yeah, I think that whole thing makes a lot of sense in the way it's broken down.
02:21There's a couple of things that I would have said maybe a touch differently or at least just add this thought.
02:26For instance, one thing he said was the Niner receiving core is going to be patchwork until Aiyuk gets back.
02:32I don't necessarily see that as absolute.
02:35We'll see about health.
02:37But I would argue there is the opportunity by week four that you are Pearsall, Jennings, Demarcus Robinson and flanked by Jordan Watkins and whatever else.
02:49Maybe even Cowing has to be out four weeks.
02:53But that doesn't feel patchwork to me.
02:55I think if you then get Aiyuk a number of weeks after that, you could actually, while it doesn't pop at the top, that could be a pretty decent group.
03:05So for me, I'm kind of circling week four as when the Niners have the first opportunity to have some continuity at receiver.
03:13And then as far on the defensive side, relying on young players, that can be such a mixed bag.
03:18Yes, you're right.
03:19They do need to learn.
03:20And there is a curve.
03:21And they will maybe not fully be ready at the beginning of the year.
03:24I'll also say this, though.
03:26Youth on defense is not always a bad thing.
03:30Because, man, you need some 21 and 22-year-old legs out there sometimes.
03:36Because that's where that just, that passion.
03:40Think about Mustafa last year.
03:42Like, just, wow, you're 22.
03:45You're an athletic freak.
03:46And you're nuts.
03:47You're absolutely nuts.
03:48And that's what you need on defense, those people who have no fear.
03:52And they will come in.
03:53And, yes, they'll make a mistake or two, but they'll also make a play or two.
03:57It kind of feels like, to a degree, that's a little bit, again, who they were in 2019 under Salah.
04:03You think?
04:04Yeah.
04:04I'm looking at it right now.
04:05And I'm looking at the starters on defense.
04:08And you had two guys who were rookies.
04:10They were 22.
04:12Nick Bosa and Dre Greenlaw.
04:13They were rookies on that team.
04:15And they were 22.
04:16And you had Fred Warner in year number two.
04:19Emmanuel Mosley, year number two.
04:21DJ Jones, who was awesome, 24 years old, year three.
04:26DeForest Buckner was in year four.
04:28Eric Armstead and Quan Alexander, year five.
04:31Kwaski Tartt, the same.
04:33Richard Sherman was in year nine.
04:35He was the only starter over 30.
04:37But it was a young defense where you had guys who turned out to be very good.
04:43And, you know, Fred Warner, Hall of Famer, Nick Bosa on a track if he continues to do it.
04:48And Greenlaw was a fifth-round find.
04:50You know, like you could say, wait, Bosa was a rookie, but Dibbs was the second pick in the draft.
04:55But what about Greenlaw?
04:55That's fifth round.
04:57So, again, there's no rule.
04:58Yeah, and what about, like, Solomon Thomas, who was also a top, top pick?
05:01It doesn't mean that just because you were number two overall that you're going to be great.
05:05No, it doesn't at all.
05:06I just mean there's no rule against producing right away.
05:09There's no rule against it.
05:11Right, especially on defense.
05:12Especially on defense.
05:13And we watched some guys do it last year.
05:15It took a minute, but Renardo Green was really good for a while on that team last year.
05:22You're hoping for Upton Stout to be that guy this year.
05:26And obviously the guys on the defensive line and the interior, can Mikel Williams and C.J. West, can they do some of these things?
05:32I'm not saying it'll be perfect.
05:34I'm not saying it'll be right away.
05:36But I think having some youthful energy on the defensive side, where everyone has to be half a cup of crazy, the energy of Robert Sala, think about that now.
05:45The difference between a Wilks and a Nick Sorensen and a Robert Sala, in terms of the energy on the sideline and how that pairs with young players.
05:55Exactly.
05:56I think that works really, really well.
05:58It does.
05:58And if you look at the possible depth chart, you've got Mikel Williams, Marquis Siegel, and Upton Stout.
06:04Three rookies who very well could be in that starting lineup.
06:08It's not totally unlike the 2019 team.
06:13And then you look even at Dee Winters, his third year.
06:16He's going to step in and have to really contribute.
06:19And then you've got some veterans.
06:20You've got Nick Bosa, who's obviously a vet, and Fred Warner.
06:23Those are the two OGs now on a defense that's going to be hopefully a little bit like 2019,
06:29where you've got first-year, second-year, third-year guys.
06:33You've got a sprinkling of veterans.
06:35Even Diameter Lenore, now in his, what, fifth year?
06:39Now, quietly, he's going to be a guy who's a little bit more of a vet.
06:42No doubt.
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06:44How about Gene in Oregon on the Niners?
06:45Hey, Gene, what's up?
06:47Hey, guys.
06:49Thanks for answering the call.
06:50So, I'm surprised no one has ever, on your guys' show,
06:55has ever said that Brockport, he doesn't have a strong enough arm.
06:58He's great.
06:59I love him.
07:00He can dink and dunk with the best of high football IQ,
07:03but he can't throw that long ball.
07:05By the time he throws that long ball to our quick receivers,
07:08the safety is going to be there, and he's going to get picked.
07:11Right?
07:12Would you agree?
07:13No.
07:14That's a problem?
07:15No.
07:15Okay.
07:15I want to hear this.
07:16I don't.
07:17I want to hear this.
07:17Yeah, go ahead.
07:18Oh, you want me to give my whole, like, dissertation on it?
07:22Gene, I don't think that's how quarterbacking works.
07:25Joe Montana didn't have a very strong arm.
07:27So, like, you're not, it's not like I can just debunk your entire point.
07:32I just don't happen to think that that's key to moving an offense.
07:37Greg Cosell, I want to invite you to listen to his segment with us tomorrow.
07:41He does it every Wednesday.
07:43And he will tell you that every single player, it doesn't matter the position,
07:48is going to have some sort of a weakness.
07:50That's what being a human being is all about.
07:53And then it's the coach's jobs to kind of, like, gather those strengths,
07:57gather those weaknesses, and then the player has to know them as well.
08:01What are they really good at?
08:02And then work around that and build your offense that way.
08:06The Niners are not an incredibly vertical offense.
08:09I think you're underselling his ability to throw a long ball a little bit.
08:12I'll agree with you.
08:14He's far from elite or the best in the league.
08:16But he can throw the ball downfield when it's there.
08:19But it's not the way the Niner offense, that's not the straw that's going to stir the drink.
08:23And there are a lot of offenses around the league that succeed without somebody that has that howitzer arm.
08:31You know what I mean?
08:32I do know what you would.
08:34Tell me who does not have a strong arm.
08:36You've got Mahomes.
08:38You've got Burrell.
08:39All the QBs have strong arms.
08:41If there's three minutes left in the fourth quarter and you're down by a touchdown,
08:46you're just not going to get it done.
08:48You can't sling it.
08:49You've got the fast receivers.
08:51You don't have the arm.
08:52I don't even know if it's about the arm strength.
08:55Thanks, Gene.
08:55Thanks, Gene.
08:56When it comes to why they can't come from behind and just looking at the numbers,
09:01and I know sometimes numbers, like, bother people,
09:04but in terms of intended air yards per attempt,
09:07which means how far did the ball fly past the line of scrimmage
09:11based on every throw you've made?
09:14He was 10th in the league in intended air yards,
09:18and if you want to look and find Patrick Mahomes,
09:20you have to go way, way, way down to 34th.
09:25So is Mahomes a dink and dunk guy?
09:27Well, no.
09:28When we watch it, Mahomes is amazing.
09:30Well, but Andy Reid is.
09:31Exactly.
09:32See, that's the point.
09:33You're right.
09:33He's got a howitzer arm, but that's not the way Andy calls a game.
09:37They got rid of their deep threat.
09:39And that's the way that Kyle calls a game,
09:41although if you look at just the numbers last year,
09:43he threw more passes further in the air than almost every other quarterback,
09:48and if you want to go to completed passes by air yards, he's No. 3.
09:54So when he does throw it further than most, he completes a lot more.
09:58Yeah, he's a good quarterback, but, yeah, sure, he's different.
10:01You know what I mean?
10:01I love right now, it's a weird year for people to be like,
10:04yeah, Joe Burrow, right, the guy who didn't make the playoffs also.
10:07So, like, what is the howitzer arm buy you?
10:11It is a characteristic.
10:13Would I rather have it than not?
10:15Yes.
10:16Does it automatically buy you wins or come from behind victories
10:21when you need to do this, that, or the other with three minutes to go?
10:24I'd argue no.
10:25Like, again, if you're giving me, do you want it or do you not?
10:29Yes, I want it.
10:31Do I need it?
10:32No.
10:33I don't need it.
10:35Do you know what I mean?
10:37Like, you want to give me a million dollars or $1.3 billion?
10:44Sure.
10:45Do I need it to get through my week or my month or my year?
10:50No.
10:51No.
10:51No, it would be nice.
10:53Who's the greatest closer in the history of Major League Baseball?
10:56The greatest closer in the history?
10:57You said it was Mariano Rivera.
10:59Yeah, people.
10:59You may not argue.
11:01And Rivera did not throw 103.
11:04He threw one pitch.
11:06It was one pitch over and over.
11:08And go ahead and try to hit me.
11:10Right.
11:10And Greg Maddox is one of the best starting pitchers ever.
11:13And he threw 89.
11:14Right, Trevor Hoffman.
11:14Fine, yes.
11:16Right, so.
11:17I mean, you don't have to have a howitzer to be a great quarterback.
11:21Like, I could go around the league and, you know, some of these are yes
11:25and some of them are no.
11:28Sure, Allen and Burrow and Mahomes, they've got the howitzer arm.
11:32Lamar's is certainly strong enough.
11:35Yep.
11:35It's not a howitzer.
11:36Dak Prescott, not a howitzer.
11:39Jared Goff, not a howitzer.
11:40Jordan Love kind of does have a howitzer.
11:44Whatever.
11:45Jayden Daniels, eh, somewhere in the middle there.
11:48Justin Herbert, really great arm and a really good quarterback.
11:53What's that bought you?
11:54Still waiting for his first playoff win.
11:57Still waiting.
11:58Yep.
11:58Bought you four picks in the playoffs in round one last year.
12:02That's what it bought you.
12:03So that's all I'm saying.
12:05Like, it's just, it's a characteristic that you'd rather have than not,
12:09but I just don't see it as a linchpin.
12:11And I think that as I look at this list of quarterbacks ranked by intended air yards per
12:17attempt, a lot of these quarterbacks are on teams where you probably have third and 20
12:22a lot.
12:24Anthony Richardson, far and away, the most air yards per attempt with Indy.
12:28It's because they probably are facing second and 17 and third and 24 where, okay, now we're
12:34going to go ahead and throw it as far as we possibly can.
12:37Trevor Lawrence, Jameis Winston, Joe Flacco.
12:39These are quarterbacks who have, yeah, big arms, but they're on teams that need to throw
12:45a lot of yards on second and third down.
12:48I think, I think Brock Purdy would tell you that this year he would like that stat to go
12:51down.
12:52Of course.
12:52He would like his intended air yards to go down.
12:55He admitted that he was trying with injuries at key positions.
12:59He was trying to be that guy that so many people have told him he needs to be.
13:03Go be the dog.
13:04Go put everybody on your shoulders and carry them to the promised land by yourself.
13:08This weird chapter 15 of your book ending that you all want out of a movie.
13:14That's not the way it actually works.
13:16Like, dude, just hit the guy who's there.
13:20He's there.
13:21Just throw it to him and then move the chains.
13:25You don't need 38 yards on every play.
13:28Give me eight.
13:29Yep.
13:30Give me six.
13:30Sure.
13:31And then do it again on the next play.
13:32Would you say that Tom Brady has a howitzer?
13:35He had a good arm, but no, I would, it, it, it did not rival some of these names that
13:39were thrown out there now.
13:41Right.
13:41He was a guy who was able to read the defense and figure out who's open and deliver the
13:46ball.
13:47And he did it for 20 some odd years.
13:49And so the idea of like having a big arm, it only suits you if you have an offense that
13:56is going to go ahead and do like four verticals and the Niners don't ever do that.
13:59I like actually very few teams in the NFL do right now anymore.
14:03Right.
14:04It's funny that you brought up my homes.
14:05Do Josh Allen next.
14:07Josh, like if you dive into numbers, it's fascinating to watch how many of the great quarterbacks
14:14that we really admire around the league do a lot of stuff right next to the line of
14:21scrimmage, right next.
14:22The bills have given a contract to Khalil Shakir.
14:25I don't think he's ever run more than five yards before the ball hits him.
14:30That's not what they do.
14:32The idea is to get the ball into the playmakers hands and then let them make the play, get
14:37them the ball in space.
14:38The idea is not like go long and I'll hit you like we do down at the park.
14:42Joe in Concord is next up.
14:45Hi, Joe.
14:45Thank you for the call.
14:48Yeah.
14:49Hi.
14:49I heard one gentleman earlier saying, counting arm strength.
14:55Well, I remember, because I kind of go a little back, the Niners had a guy, and I think it
15:01was around the time that Bill Walsh came back.
15:04He took a time off or whatever was going on, and he came back and they asked Bill Walsh and
15:12the Niners had a guy named, I think they might have just drafted him.
15:16His name was Jim Drunkenmiller.
15:19And he had the big arm, right?
15:21Just like what you guys are talking about.
15:23Yep.
15:24And then the guy asked Bill Walsh, what do you think of Jim Drunkenmiller?
15:28And his response was, arm strength never impressed me.
15:33That's exactly right.
15:35Who better to get that observation than Bill Walsh?
15:40I'm with him, Joe.
15:42Thank you very much for the call.
15:43Do you notice, and I wonder if he finally just changed his name.
15:47You notice how everybody still calls him Jim Drunkenmiller?
15:50Right.
15:50You know that first N is not in his name.
15:53It's Drunkenmiller.
15:54It's Drunkenmiller.
15:55Right.
15:55But wasn't there some sort of, wasn't there like an alcohol-related thing at one point?
16:00So people started joking that it was Jim Drunkenmiller, and then it stuck.
16:06Yeah.
16:06Or people are just mispronouncing it.
16:08I don't know.
16:09Mispronouncing it on purpose, I think.
16:12Drunkenmiller.
16:13Right.
16:13Jim Drunkenmiller.
16:15Do you know what his record was as a Niner starter?
16:18Not good.
16:191-0.
16:20Oh.
16:21What's wrong with you?
16:22Not good.
16:22Perfect.
16:23The answer is perfect.
16:26Okay.
16:27Yeah, he was 21 of 52 in his lone start for 239.
16:33Winner!
16:36If you say so.
16:38First round pick in 97.
16:40Did he have a thing, or did I just make something up?
16:42Was there something?
16:44Did he get like a...
16:46Oh, yeah.
16:48He got into a bar brawl.
16:49Doesn't mean he was drunken.
16:51I mean, if you get into a bar brawl and you're not drunk, you're doing it wrong.
16:58I'm pretty sure.
16:59I've never been in one.
17:00I think you're supposed to be drunk.
17:02Because you're really an idiot if you just do that sober.
17:05Like, you walk in.
17:06Like, I've been here for four minutes.
17:07Let's fight.
17:08Like, you should be drunk if you're going to do a bar brawl.
17:10Hold on.
17:10Hold on.
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