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00:00We can tell by our engagement today and by what a lot of people are saying,
00:04and this is no surprise.
00:06Look, the Niners, I thought, were awful across the board.
00:08Like, tell me the position group that nailed it, and I'm all ears.
00:14No one nailed it, for sure.
00:16Nobody nailed it.
00:16888-957-9570.
00:19I think we both believe, yeah, a lot of you want to talk about Brock Purdy.
00:24So let's do it.
00:25Let's do it.
00:26Can we keep it a buck and say what you want to say about Brock Purdy?
00:34And it can be good.
00:35Stand on it.
00:36It can be bad.
00:38It can be anywhere in between.
00:40What do you want to say?
00:42And, you know, we had one caller call in who, my God,
00:46he was trying to do his best impersonation of deep dive dibs,
00:49and he had decimal points and Jimmy and something per game and things per capita.
00:56Like, there's a lot going on there.
00:58And we finally got to what he was trying to say, which is that, no,
01:02I think Brock's better than Jimmy, but I don't think Jimmy was very good.
01:05Like, okay, there's a take.
01:06Yep.
01:07Like, with complete and total open-mindedness, safe space,
01:13what do you want to say about Brock Purdy?
01:19Here's the best way that I can sort of draft what I would want to say about Brock Purdy.
01:24I did not like yesterday.
01:26I don't know how you could.
01:28Yesterday was not a good game for the quarterback.
01:31Are there some concerning trends from recent games, if you will,
01:37even though I don't know what the word recent means.
01:39There's only been two of them this year.
01:41Are there some concerning trends?
01:44Sure.
01:45Do I think he's overpaid?
01:47No.
01:49This is what quarterbacks cost.
01:51And I believe that Brock Purdy is a very good quarterback.
01:55I would much rather have Brock Purdy than be spinning in the whole,
01:59like, we're going to redo this every two years,
02:02Geno Smith, Sam Darnold-ness of the world.
02:05And even if we want to briefly revisit the Trevor versus Brock conversation from last week,
02:10Trevor was better, but they don't let Trevor do anything other than throw the ball four feet in front of him.
02:17And his game was more efficient, but he's not the kind of quarterback that you would really want to hit your wagon to.
02:25Not at all.
02:26Because that's just, they have this great offense, and yet he threw it average air yards about four yards per pass.
02:32I would also say, because someone hit me with that last night, you know, the whole, like, ooh, Trevor better than Brock.
02:37And I was like, what do you think Brock Purdy would have done yesterday with no sacks, no quarterback hits?
02:44Right.
02:44What do you think he would have done if there was literally zero chaos in the pocket for the entire day?
02:50What do you think Brock would have done?
02:53I think he would have played pretty well.
02:56Only three QB hits on Brock, according to ESPN.
03:00Sure, sure, sure, sure.
03:01A lot more pressures.
03:01A lot more pressures.
03:03And what do you think Brock Purdy would have done if Christian McCaffrey was averaging 4.7 yards per carry?
03:09Which is what the Jacksonville run game was able to do yesterday.
03:12Right.
03:12But a lot of that is so skewed by the one big 48-yard house call.
03:16But your point is well taken.
03:18What I would say is I have arrived at a comfortability, and I wish this for everybody, when we do the whole system quarterback thing, it is not a demerit.
03:30It is not a criticism to say that Brock Purdy needs some things to be going well around him to play well.
03:36Because conversely, I would also say the 49ers, what's going on around him, they need Brock Purdy to play well for those things to go well.
03:44That is my sort of way of looking at football.
03:49The whole thing needs to be complementary with one another.
03:53I don't think he's been bad for a year and a half.
03:56I don't think he's good enough to do this all by himself.
04:00I don't even know if that really exists.
04:02Maybe Josh Allen.
04:04But I look at Josh Allen, and I go, do you guys not see that offensive line and what James Cook is doing?
04:10Right.
04:10Like, that team is playing very well.
04:14And they have healthier, better weapons right now than Brock does.
04:18Absolutely.
04:18So that is how I look at it.
04:20If you want to remove the words like elite and all of these things, that's fine.
04:25I think the 49ers have a good quarterback who is still, at this moment at least, is working his way through an injury.
04:34He definitely had a very poor game yesterday.
04:37But, yes, he is going to need some other things on this team to be going well for them to win a ton of football games and be a good playoff team.
04:49And I'm totally comfortable with that.
04:50And that does not mean he's not worth $53 million.
04:53That's how I view it.
04:54Yeah, the way I view it is all those things that you said are true.
04:58And I have always been a big proponent of complimentary football, especially when you're the Niners.
05:04When you run it well, when you have more than 30 carries, you win most of the games.
05:09When you win time of possession, you win most of the games.
05:11So the whole thing is built complimentary, and it's also a system that has to revolve around those two things, a good run game and a stout defense.
05:22I also believe this.
05:23Brock Purdy, in this game yesterday, did himself no favors.
05:27He's taking chances that don't need to be taken.
05:30He's making throws that don't need to be made.
05:33And as a result, you have turnovers.
05:35And I'm just looking at his career, all the games that he started by quarterback rating, which I know is not an ideal metric, but it's a good one to measure overall effectiveness.
05:45Yesterday was his seventh worst start by quarterback rating.
05:49So that wasn't even his worst game ever.
05:52We all remember the Baltimore game and the Kansas City game last year.
05:57The interesting thing for me is that of his bottom eight, five of them are this year or last year.
06:02So last year, a lot of bad things were going on around him.
06:06He didn't have a lot of McCaffrey.
06:08This year, he doesn't have Kittle and all the rest of it.
06:11But I'm seeing from Brock Purdy some of the things that I saw last year, regressionary mistakes, where you're making throws that don't need to be made, and you're throwing interceptions at the absolute worst time.
06:23Yep, I think that's fair.
06:26You know, tipped ball interceptions to me are not the same as other interceptions.
06:30But at the same time, that's part of the picture.
06:33Those interceptions are at least partially, if not mostly, on him.
06:38Yesterday was not a good game.
06:40I'm going to buy your assessment completely.
06:42There are some concerning trends.
06:46I still see the 49ers as having a really good quarterback.
06:50And those of you who kind of want to black and white it, like this was interesting.
06:54Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line just fired this in and goes, okay, Brock needs way more weapons around him than Allen, but makes similar pay, hence overpaid.
07:09Okay, I get that.
07:10Then again, that's never the way contracts have worked in the NFL.
07:16It's just not.
07:17But recency has a lot to do with it.
07:20Plus, Josh Allen, quite frankly, for whatever reason, did not feel the need or the desire to push the bills for every dollar that he could have gotten.
07:30Josh Allen got paid after Doc Prescott and took less.
07:34What the hell is that all about?
07:35Right.
07:36What's that?
07:37Why did he do that?
07:38I don't know.
07:38Maybe create more room for better players around him.
07:41And Brock arguably could say that he did the same thing.
07:44Absolutely.
07:44Absolutely.
07:45Absolutely.
07:46I mean, he took less than Trevor Lawrence, for example, who we all know damn well.
07:51He's got a better resume.
07:52You can think whatever you want about the QB.
07:55He's got a better resume.
07:56Hell, you could argue he's got a better resume than Doc Prescott.
08:00And Doc has the biggest contract in the league.
08:03So, the whole overpaid thing, to me, comes down to this one thought.
08:10Would you literally rather, would you rather be in that whole sort of like, what's the best way to use a word to describe it?
08:20Like the carousel.
08:21Okay.
08:22Or it's kind of like, you know, so you have Mac Jones.
08:24Let's just say that you didn't pay Brock Purdy, and you got Mac Jones this year, and then you say, all right, bye, Mac.
08:31And then you get Daniel Jones from Indianapolis for two years, and then you get somebody else after that, and then you get somebody else.
08:37I think that's kind of what you're describing, right?
08:38The carousel nature of, we don't have our franchise guy.
08:42Well, do you want to hire someone, or do you want to go to recruiting service and keep bringing in temps?
08:48Okay?
08:48And then when you do hire someone, does that person's performance make you go, ooh, we should have gone to the temp aisle?
08:57Like, I think some people think that.
08:59I don't think that.
09:00I do not think the 49ers, now looking at their quarterback play, which has been less than stellar, certainly, this year.
09:07And if you want to say last year was a down year, I don't really buy it, but it was less than what he had put on tape before that, so that's fair.
09:15Does that make you go, you know what, I'd rather just have, like, let's kind of do this year to year, or two year to two year.
09:25I don't feel that way.
09:27I, like, yeah, okay, we've known this all along.
09:31He is not one of the top five QBs in the league.
09:34Yep, probably not top ten.
09:37Probably not.
09:40But it really, this is where it gets hard, because for one, I don't think that he needs to have the talent around him.
09:48He could have won that game yesterday with Tonjes, Demarcus Robinson, and Farrell.
09:54Farrell lost a fumble.
09:56Tonjes made a great play, another touchdown catch.
09:59Robinson made a great catch.
10:00So even though you lost Pearsall and Jennings, you still could have won that game.
10:04And the one that sticks to me, you finally get the ball back, Jacksonville punts, and you get it at your own 20, and the first play he throws an interception.
10:12Those are the ones where it kind of drives you crazy.
10:15So, Brock at his best, yeah, he's a top seven quarterback, maybe even higher.
10:20Brock at his worst, and I'll use yesterday as an example, and that wasn't his absolute worst.
10:25The Baltimore game, I think, would be worse than that.
10:27But when you see that, that's what gets fans really agitated, because, you know, Brock Purdy, we've seen him be great.
10:35And then when you see him have a game like that, and you can say talent around him, offensive line, the toe, whatever it was, he was not good.
10:44And he needs to not be bad in those spots when you can win the game.
10:50Completely fair.
10:52He was not good yesterday.
10:53But prisoner of the moment is a label that some of y'all do deserve.
11:01Like, I think we need to own that.
11:04You know what I mean?
11:04Someone's hitting us on the text line again right now.
11:06It says, look how good Mahomes is starting to look when he gets his weapons back.
11:11And I think that actually was supportive of Brock.
11:14But I'd hit you back and go, is Mahomes looking great, or did you just have a good game yesterday?
11:19We do this a lot, where you see something on a Sunday, and then that's what's happening.
11:25It's like, no, that's what happened yesterday.
11:27That's what happened yesterday.
11:29We can't take yesterday and now decide this is what's happening every time.
11:35Brock Purdy is not fumbling in the pocket on all the game-winning drives.
11:38His only other game this year, he had a game-winning drive, and he did it.
11:43Eric Armstead.
11:44Eric Armstead.
11:44Welcome home.
11:46Frickin' guy.
11:46Slap it out with those long go-go gadget arms.
11:49No, he got him.
11:50He got him.
11:51And that's on Brock.
11:52There's no two ways about it.
11:53But we do, we take what we see yesterday and we go, now that's, see, that's what happens.
11:59This quarterback's not this, or this quarterback is that.
12:02No, that's what happened yesterday.
12:04The crap game.
12:05Yep.
12:06What a crap game.
12:07When you look at all his games, and you use them and you treat them as firewood, so every
12:11game is a log, and his pile used to only be the good pile of firewood, and now you're
12:18starting to get more logs on the bad pile of firewood, and that's where, you know, people
12:23are looking at it, and yes, it's prisoner of the moment.
12:25It was yesterday.
12:26It was a bad game.
12:27It's not his first, and it won't be his last.
12:30Of course.
12:30Is the pile of good games bigger than the pile of bad games?
12:33Of course it is, but when you see another log go on the crap pile, and you lose a game
12:39that was very winnable, there's frustration.
12:42And I get that, but I try to encourage people to not be so prisoner in the moment, because
12:47he can come out Thursday, miraculously play, beat the Rams 31-17, and everyone's going to
12:53be like, oh, he's back.
12:55He's underpaid.
12:56No, I just, like, sometimes maybe we should look at it from the other side.
13:01Can we go to the other side of the block and look backwards?
13:04Right?
13:04Like, is Brock going to be a good quarterback if the 49ers are playing well?
13:08Yes.
13:09See, that, instead of the other way around, are the 49ers going to be playing well if Brock
13:14plays well?
13:15Or is Brock going to play well if the 49ers are playing well?
13:18Yesterday's an interesting one, because they all were bad.
13:20There you go.
13:20So, if...
13:21I don't know.
13:22Like, and I'd have to go back and really look at the Baltimore game when they had all those
13:26turnovers.
13:26I don't think that everyone else was amazing, but he was appreciably worse than the rest.
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