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00:00And it's an interesting comment.
00:03Look, look, look.
00:05Matt Hagen just poked his head in here and said there's no upside for Brock Purdy in this game.
00:12Huh.
00:13I think there's more downside than there is upside to the extent that they are expected to win Vegas odds.
00:20And if he plays well and they win, upside.
00:24If he plays poorly and they win, well, geez, I mean, the team bailed him out.
00:29And if he plays poorly and they lose, major downside, Matt Jones would have beaten Arizona.
00:34So I think on the upside-downside scale, I think that there's more potential downside for Brock Purdy than there is upside.
00:42Okay, but downside-upside, like I guess, and so it would be interesting to throw that out to y'all.
00:47Does this feel like a no-win situation for Brock Purdy?
00:52See, for me to buy that, then I think that means the 49ers have to buy into this conversation.
00:59And I don't think they do.
01:02That's all.
01:03Like, if the thought is, uh-oh, if you don't play well, people are going to be on your back.
01:09Well, welcome to professional sports.
01:10We sat here 48 hours ago and had a large portion of the Warriors fan base give up on the season.
01:19And then they went out and had a brilliant second half and upset the San Antonio Spurs and Victor Wembenyama.
01:25And so that's sports.
01:28Like, the Niners can handle being ripped for a week if Brock goes out there and doesn't play well.
01:34And they lose.
01:35They're big boys.
01:37Yeah.
01:38They can handle it.
01:38But, like, I get it's annoying.
01:41It's not what they want.
01:43But I think there's a huge upside to Brock Purdy in this game.
01:46He gets to play.
01:47And he can remind everybody of what he can do on a football field.
01:52Which I am of the opinion a lot of people have forgotten.
01:56But I get it.
01:57That's what absence does.
01:59People in professional sports don't, we don't have long memories.
02:02It's supposed to make the heart grow fonder.
02:05But in this case, it's not making the heart grow fonder.
02:07It doesn't.
02:08You know what I mean?
02:09I do.
02:10I mean, what happens to every, y'all had a boyfriend or a girlfriend when you left for college, right?
02:15Did it stick?
02:17Like, probably not.
02:19That's hard.
02:20Y'all went a different way.
02:22And people, like, yeah.
02:24A lot of people I know love to add on to that phrase you just used.
02:29Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
02:31And a lot of people go, yeah, for someone else.
02:34Absence makes the heart grow fonder for someone else.
02:36It just depends on what you have in the meantime.
02:39I guess.
02:40You mentioned a high school girlfriend.
02:42I actually bumped into my senior year prom date at the zoo a couple months ago.
02:47She was there with her husband, who I've known forever, and her daughter and granddaughter.
02:52What animals were you looking at?
02:54We were looking at the tiger.
02:55Oh.
02:56Right there in the Oakland Zoo.
02:59Right there by the gondola.
03:01And I'm there with my wife and daughter, and she's there with her husband and her granddaughter.
03:06And, yeah, absence never made the heart grow fonder for either one of us there.
03:10But she actually found somebody who she's been married to now for 37 years, and I've gone on to have a series of marriages.
03:17So it's the same thing here, where absence would make the heart grow fonder if you went from Brock Purdy to C.J.
03:25Bethard or Nick Mullins.
03:27For sure.
03:28There's no question.
03:28Because the other woman in this case is a guy who's gone 5-3.
03:32He's pretty good.
03:32Yeah.
03:33He's pretty good.
03:34Yeah.
03:34And I get that.
03:36I mean, what if we did ask it that way?
03:38Has the absence of Brock Purdy made your heart grow fonder?
03:42Or has it made it grow fonder for someone else?
03:45In some ways, and maybe this is unique to this situation, the answer for me is sort of both.
03:51I am clearly more fond of Mac Jones right now than I was going into that New Orleans game.
03:58Like, I love that that fail-safe, that emergency break glass is there.
04:04But I also, I am also very excited to watch him play football.
04:10I don't want to leave Ricky Pearsall out of this conversation either.
04:13You know, my fondness for and thought for what he could do on a football field has been there since mid-summer.
04:20And I am very excited that he is back into the fold this weekend as well.
04:26I think that this has the opportunity to be the start of the best version of the 49ers' offensive self.
04:34And that's why I'm excited.
04:36So, like, I get, though, that it's easier.
04:40It's easier to be apart from someone if, you know, you've got something to do while you're waiting.
04:44Right.
04:44And the Niners have had something to do while they're waiting.
04:46Five and three since he's been out.
04:49Not since he's been out, but in the games that Mac has started.
04:52And this is where I think about the Brock Purdy question.
04:54Because if you go to Mac Jones this year, he was really good against New Orleans in a win.
05:01He was not great against Arizona, but you still won.
05:04Fantastic against the Rams.
05:06You won in OT.
05:07He was not great against Tampa.
05:09You lost.
05:10He was not great against Atlanta.
05:12You won.
05:13And then against Houston, he was not great.
05:16He was kind of in the mid.
05:17And you lost.
05:18My point is, against the Rams, he was phenomenal.
05:22Against the Giants, he was the best he's been all year.
05:24But against the Rams, he was awesome.
05:26And you still lost.
05:28So this is where I think we get a little bit conflated with what it really is about.
05:33Because Brock can play great.
05:35Brock can go 33 of 39.
05:37For 319 and three touchdowns.
05:40And they could lose.
05:41Which is what Mac did last week.
05:43Or he could go 17 for 26 for $1.52.
05:46And they could win.
05:48So how are we going to feel?
05:49And that comes down to the individual.
05:51Are you a fan of the team winning?
05:53Or do you want to see Brock Purdy earn his money?
05:56Above all, I want the team to win.
05:58For sure.
05:58I don't think everybody feels that way, though.
06:00In this conversation.
06:01But we're probably not fair with any quarterback.
06:05Like, for instance, as you were just rolling through that, you made the statement that against
06:09Atlanta, Mac wasn't that good.
06:11And I would sort of, like, try to say that differently.
06:14Mac didn't.
06:16He wasn't asked.
06:17He wasn't put in a situation to put up numbers.
06:20But he didn't make huge mistakes.
06:22Largely, what was he asked to do that day?
06:24Hand the ball to Christian McCaffrey.
06:26Yep.
06:26And he did that very well.
06:28Now, that's an easy job.
06:31So we don't get impressed by that.
06:33But at the same time, I'm not going to act like he played poorly.
06:37How about Jimmy Garoppolo, NFC title game against Green Bay?
06:39Did he play poorly?
06:41I think he went 6 of 8.
06:43Yeah.
06:43He was, eh, whatever.
06:45He was barely there.
06:47But he didn't do anything wrong.
06:49And he did what he was asked to do.
06:51So I'm not going to come down his road for it.
06:53I may not prop him up.
06:55This is what fantasy football does to us.
06:58You know, Drake May last night had a very, eh, fantasy game.
07:01Especially for him.
07:03But I thought he was really good.
07:04He was really good.
07:05He made the plays that he needed to make.
07:07He wasn't spectacular.
07:09Nothing over the top happened.
07:11But he only got one touchdown pass.
07:13It's like his first time in weeks not getting multiple TD passes.
07:17And so people will be like, ah, Drake May was just only okay.
07:20No, he was good.
07:21He was good.
07:22There's a game script.
07:23And there's a way things flow in all of that.
07:25That affects this whole conversation.
07:27So, yeah, above all, I want the 49ers to win this game on Sunday.
07:32I don't need Brock Purdy to go out there and prove anything to anybody.
07:35And as I said when we were talking about Klay Thompson a couple weeks ago,
07:39I sure hope Brock doesn't go into this week thinking he needs to prove.
07:43This is how he gets in trouble.
07:46When he tries to prove, you know, oh, Christian McCaffrey's out,
07:51so I need to be extra amazing today.
07:53No, just play.
07:55Just make the right play.
07:57That's all anybody needs to do.
07:59And if that leads to impressive numbers, great.
08:02And if it doesn't, great.
08:04Like sometimes the difference between a great quarterback game
08:06and a not great quarterback game is whether a receiver broke a tackle
08:10over the middle of the field.
08:11And he's gone.
08:12And you get 80 more passing yards.
08:15And now everyone's like, he threw for 300 yards.
08:17Exactly.
08:17That's amazing.
08:18It's like, dog, just make the play.
08:20And it's even beyond that.
08:21And it's really what we talk a lot about on the show about complimentary football.
08:24And that's where the Atlanta game is such a good example of that
08:28because Mac Jones' numbers were not great, but you just ran it.
08:31They couldn't stop it.
08:32And so you ran it again.
08:33And you ran it, I think, 40 times in total.
08:36And as I mentioned to Greg Cosell earlier in the week, the Niners are 50-8.
08:4150 wins, 8 losses under Shanahan when they run it 30 or more times.
08:45And it's partly chicken or the egg.
08:47And you're right.
08:47When you have the lead, you run it more.
08:50But when you run it more, you get the lead if you're a Shanahan offense.
08:53And so, yeah, you look at that Atlanta game.
08:55That was one of the games.
08:56They ran it more than 30 times, and you won it.
08:58And so I think about Sunday, Arizona does not have a great run defense.
09:03Your offensive line now has Kittle as well.
09:06I think that this is going to be a game where Brock Purdy is not going to be asked
09:11to throw it 38 times.
09:12It's going to be more like a 14 for 21.
09:15If the Niners win this game the way they should, it'll be 25 passes, 35 or more runs,
09:22ball control, and just run it down their throat.
09:24And that's fine.
09:25And the Niners, and I think they are, need to be ready for people to spew all of the
09:30stuff that they spew.
09:31If Brock only throws for 170 yards, and they win by 10, don't care.
09:36You can't care.
09:36They don't care.
09:37And they don't.
09:38Steve Kerr said to us yesterday, I don't give a rip what the fans say.
09:42You have to be there.
09:43So here's what I, here's again, the inequity that I'll point out.
09:47I get what someone is saying if they say this is a no-win situation for Brock.
09:52Right.
09:53In the public discourse, maybe.
09:56But so what?
09:57Brock's been living apparently in that world his whole career.
10:01And the inequity lies right here.
10:04Here's what's so funny.
10:06If Brock doesn't play great, and someone will be like, you should have stuck with Mack.
10:11Ike.
10:13Okay.
10:13Let's look at what Mack Jones has done.
10:16And I can prove this to you.
10:17I promise you that right now, if the situation were reversed, if Mack had played two games,
10:24and he had gone one and one, okay?
10:27And one of them was a bad game, and the other one was kind of a good game, but you only scored 17 points.
10:30When Brock Purdy, like, Brock Purdy out there goes five and three, people would be like, five and three?
10:39That's all you got?
10:40But when Mack Jones goes five and three, five and three?
10:45Mack Jones, everybody.
10:46See, I don't believe that at all.
10:47I do.
10:48I do.
10:48No, you're not going to be.
10:49There's no way with this schedule that if Brock Purdy had played it, you were satisfied with five out of every eight games.
10:57No chance.
10:57And the only comeback anyone will have for this is money.
11:02Money, Mark.
11:03And it's like, that's not really relevant yet.
11:06It's not relevant yet.
11:07You'd be fine with five and three based on the losses they had.
11:11You lost to the Rams.
11:12So assuming that you flipped the people in the game.
11:15So Brock starts the eight games that Mack did.
11:18Mack starts the two that Brock did.
11:20And Brock does what Mack did in those eight games.
11:23I do not think people would like it.
11:24What a miracle.
11:24You beat the Rams on the road in overtime.
11:26And you lost to the Rams in the payback game.
11:29That's fine.
11:30And you want a 16 to 15, you know, nerd squirter against the Cardinals.
11:36Like, I just made that up.
11:38I don't think anybody would be very impressed with Brock Purdy.
11:42I don't think that people would be looking to go back to Mack.
11:44I mean, I don't think that people would be looking at five and three with the injuries they had.
11:48Like, everything else is equal.
11:50Very limited Kittle.
11:52And, I mean, very limited Bosa and Fred Warner.
11:55I agree with that.
11:55I don't think anybody would be looking to make a change.
11:57No.
11:57But I think people would just be very, very underwhelmed.
12:01I don't think so.
12:02I do.
12:02I think that it would still be where we are today, which is, okay, you're six and four.
12:07Now you've got the soft pork belly of a schedule here.
12:11Time to fatten up.
12:12Get yourself some carnitas and some of those chopped onions.
12:16It's time to eat.
12:16I think if Brock had done everything Mack had done this year, people would be like,
12:20$53 million for that?
12:24Eh.
12:24Yeah, I disagree.
12:25Yeah, I mean, Mack is, you've said it all year.
12:29I've come in after some of these games and I'm like, Mack looked great.
12:31And you say, you know, you've said this 15 times on this show.
12:36Mack was fine.
12:37He's fine.
12:37Yeah.
12:38I don't think you want to pay $53 million for fine.
12:40Well, you pay $53 million for a guy who wins games and Mack is five and three.
12:45And so in this analogy, Brock would be five and three and the team would be six and four.
12:50And you'd be thinking, okay.
12:52Like when I say Mack's been really impressive, it's through the lens of that's Mack Jones and
12:56he's a backup quarterback.
12:58I don't like, this is a conversation for the off season.
13:01I don't think that the league is lining up with a first round draft pick for Mack Jones.
13:05Not a first round pick.
13:06I don't think that at all.
13:07I know a lot of people do.
13:09I do not think that.
13:10I would bet you that there will be a second or a third round pick being offered for Mack Jones.
13:15And if I'm the Niners, I absolutely take it.
13:18Yeah.
13:18Well, that isn't that dependent on the health of Brock Purdy.
13:22I mean, like if, if, if, if this is so as tenuous as so many of you seem to think that
13:28it is, why on earth would you give away your, your, your backup plan?
13:33I mean, that's, that's, this is, this has been worth more than a second or a third round
13:39pick to the Niners this year to have him here.
13:41Right.
13:41So like, but you're Kyle Shanahan, you can make a chicken salad out of chicken Schmidt.
13:47I don't think he thinks that.
13:49Yes.
13:49I do think he thinks that we like to hang that around him.
13:53I don't think that he thinks that I think that he is a little arrogant.
13:57I don't think he's as arrogant as people make him out to be.
13:59He is that self-confident.
14:01It's not arrogance.
14:02There's a fine line between those two things.
14:04It depends on what other people think about you.
14:06I don't think that Kyle looks in the mirror and it goes, yeah, quarterback whisperer.
14:10Let me think, you know what?
14:11I think a lot of people think that.
14:13I think a lot of people think that.
14:14Last night, Kyle's watching, Kyle's watching that game last night and the game ends and
14:18the Jets lose again and he goes in the mirror and he starts to slick back that thin gray
14:23hair and he goes, Justin Fields?
14:25Yeah.
14:26I can fix him.
14:27I can win with you.
14:27I can fix him.
14:29Actually, he decidedly went into a draft and went, that's the one I can't win with.
14:33We can do Trevor Lawrence.
14:36We can do Zach Wilson.
14:37We can do Trey Lance.
14:40We can do Meg Jones.
14:42We're not doing that, Justin Fields.
14:43We're not doing that.
14:45That's literally what it was.
14:46I was about to make a Fast Times at Ridgemont High reference and I looked at Grandy.
14:50That movie came out in 82.
14:52Let's stick to Bobby McFerrin.
14:53That's as far back as we're going to go.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Spicoli, they crashed the car.
14:58I can fix it.
14:59My dad's got this awesome set of tools.
15:02I can fix it.
15:03And that's what I was thinking about with Shanahan.
15:05He looks at Justin Fields and he goes, I can fix it.
15:09Can you just answer your own question?
15:10I think he looks at Justin Fields and he's like, it's broken.
15:13Kevin Durant, I'm out.
15:16That's why I'm out here.
15:18That's why I'm out.
15:18Who are you?
15:19Let's go to Cliff in Vallejo.
15:21That's who he is.
15:21Hey, Cliff, what are you doing?
15:24What's cracking with you guys, man?
15:26You guys got a great show going on today, man.
15:29My point is right now, I made this statement about three or four weeks ago on your, you guys are showing, maybe the show before, about what would have happened if Matt Jones and Brock Purdy would have been in the same competition for the number one starting job.
15:55When they traded for, when they drafted Trey Lance, that's the issue right there.
16:02Who would have been the starter?
16:05And I think, from my perspective, I think Matt Jones would have been the starter.
16:10Well, of course he would have been.
16:10Because that's water under the bridge.
16:12We're not, we, that's water under the bridge.
16:14We're not even going there right now.
16:16The point is, would you go back to your old girlfriend?
16:20Answer me that one question right now.
16:23That's not enough.
16:23I didn't left a whole bunch of girlfriends.
16:26That's not what they're doing.
16:28That's not, Cliff, they never, it's not an old girlfriend.
16:31They never left her in the first place.
16:34I understand that, but that's, you know what I'm saying?
16:37That's a good smile.
16:39Cliff, thank you for calling.
16:41That was a good smile.
16:42It was an open relationship.
16:44Well, the Niners are with Brock, and Brock went on a vacation.
16:48She went on overseas to study for six months.
16:51Right, and while.
16:51Were they on a break?
16:53Oh, wow, great reference.
16:54Shout out to friends, yeah.
16:56But, in this case, it was.
16:58We were on a break!
16:59And they were on a break.
17:00Yeah, they were.
17:01And so, you know, the Niners went out and got Mack Jones.
17:06Listen, here's the thing.
17:08Of course, if Mack and Brock were picked, if they had picked Mack, who would the starter
17:14have been?
17:14It would have been Mack.
17:15The same way it was Trey.
17:17But also, never forget what Kyle Shanahan pulled Jed York aside and said right when they
17:23were about to start Trey Lance with Jimmy Garoppolo on the team as well.
17:27Hey, Jed, there's three QBs here.
17:31One of them's been here as the starter for a while.
17:34One of them we just gave away three drafts to bring in.
17:37And then the other one's the good one.
17:42That conversation happened.
17:45So, yes, Mack would have started in that mythical scenario, but politics would have been the
17:50reason why, I believe.
17:53At least in the short run.
17:54In the short term, sure.
17:56And, you know, Mack Jones probably was always this kind of a quarterback, but he was in a
18:01bad system with bad teammates around him.
18:03And so, we always have to remember that in all these conversations about quarterbacks.
18:08And, you know, Justin Fields, unfortunately now, has had two different situations and two
18:13times it's been...
18:14Oh, that's right.
18:15Yeah, don't forget Pittsburgh.
18:16Well, I mean, yeah, I did forget Pittsburgh, apparently.
18:18And he played there for a few weeks.
18:20Kept winning games, too.
18:21Sure.
18:21And then they benched him anyway.
18:22Exactly.
18:22They benched him anyway because he's not a real good thrower of the football, which is
18:26kind of important when you're the quarterback.
18:28So, yeah, I do think that, you know, Brock and Mack, there's a reason why Mack has looked
18:33his best here.
18:34And there's a reason why Sam Darnold looked his best in Minnesota last year.
18:38Another great offensive system.
18:40I think the mythical way to look at it is had the Niners drafted Mack in the third overall
18:46instead of Trey, Brock shows up next year, you might like him, but the real if is, A,
18:55would Jimmy Garoppolo have been brought back?
18:57Probably not.
18:59And, B, would Brock have ever gotten a chance?
19:02Quite possibly, probably not.
19:04Because, A, Mack's not going to get hurt on a QB power, because they ain't going to run
19:09a QB power.
19:10Right.
19:10And if Mack played somewhat like he's playing now, you probably would have been in less of
19:17a mood to bench your No. 3 overall pick.
19:21That's the mythical, like, I don't know if, Brock, we still might not know who he is.
19:26Yeah, we might, we might not.
19:27You know what I mean?
19:28I do think that, and this is a situation, and I mentioned the Bill Barnwell article earlier
19:32today, teams who get through the third year of their first-round drafted quarterback,
19:38like the Panthers with, you know, Cam, with Bryce Young, rather, you get through three
19:42years and you have a decision to make.
19:44Either you pick up that fifth-year option, or you say, eh, good God, we're going to have
19:48to move on to plan B, and, you know, maybe the Niners would have been in that spot.
19:53Maybe.
19:54Jeremy West Oakland next up.
19:56Jeremy, thanks for the call.
19:57What's up?
19:59What's up, boys?
20:00I love the show.
20:02Really appreciate listening to y'all.
20:03Thanks, man.
20:04And, you're welcome.
20:06And, Mark, I'm totally with you, man.
20:08I'm pumped about the rest of the season outlook for this.
20:13I'm very optimistic with what we have and with Brock coming back and everything, and the
20:18schedule does play into that.
20:20So, I'm really, really looking forward to Sunday at 105 when they take on the Cardinals,
20:25and I'll be having a few Irish coffees, and I'll get some chilaquilas, and then we're
20:30going to yawk in, and, yeah, we're ready.
20:33Let's go.
20:34Let's go.
20:34Let's go.
20:35Let's go.
20:36I'm going to wear my LFG hat this weekend.
20:38That's happening for sure.
20:39Jeremy, thank you very much.
20:41Listen, I don't, and if you're not, I mean, I get, look, I guess there's some fans out
20:46there that would rather see Mac, and that's fine.
20:51Like, I do wonder if you want to see Mac, why?
20:55Because there is a multiple choice there.
20:57Ride the hot hand.
20:58Is it ride the hot hand?
20:59You think he's better.
21:01Is it you think he's better?
21:02You don't want Brock to get hurt.
21:04There you go.
21:04Those are, that's, your mind is exactly where my mind was.
21:07Or, you want Mac to fail so that you can get Shanahan out of here.
21:13Option number four.
21:14That's the, that's the fringe.
21:16That's the nerd squirt option.
21:18Yeah.
21:19Some people are grabbing onto that.
21:20I don't know where that came from.
21:21I don't either.
21:22It just came out of my mouth.
21:23I have no idea what it means, but I thought it was an accurate way to portray the way the
21:26Niners played that day against Arizona last time.
21:29A little bit.
21:29They were a bunch of nerd squirters.
21:30Well, and you had the, uh.
21:32What is going on?
21:33You had the poony whiff followed by the safety.
21:36Yeah.
21:36And then you still found a way to, uh, you know, win that game with an Eddie Pinero and
21:40a, and a great pass breakup late.
21:42I love Eddie.
21:43But, I don't think that this is a must win.
21:45You know, I, I cherish that phrase for when it's really, really, really important.
21:49It's not, not must.
21:50But.
21:50Ooh, it's big.
21:51It is big.
21:51Ooh, God, it's big.
21:52And we're going to get into it later in the show.
21:54This is a monster week 11 in the NFL.
21:56It sure is.
21:57I mean, beyond Rams and Seattle.
21:59We got the KC Denver, which is big for you and I, in our bet with the midday show.
22:05You got Philly taking on Detroit.
22:06Yep.
22:07Summer night.
22:07You got the Jags taking on the Chargers, I believe.
22:10That's true.
22:11I mean, you got some, you got Buffalo taking on Tampa Bay.
22:15Tampa Bay.
22:16I mean, these are some big games.
22:17Great cross-conference matchup there.
22:19Yep.
22:20Samita Los Gattis.
22:22Hey, Samita, what's going on?
22:24Thanks for calling.
22:25Hey, guys.
22:26Hey, yeah.
22:27Thanks for making my afternoon drive.
22:29It's so much more entertaining.
22:30I appreciate y'all.
22:33I think the thing that's coming up for me, at least, and I've been saying this from the
22:39beginning, is what's happening with this whole Mac Jones, Brock Purdy conversation that not
22:46enough people are saying is that Brock is a very good quarterback, but he's not great.
22:53He is not an all-timer.
22:55He's not an elite quarterback, in my opinion, which is why we're like, well, Mac's got the
23:03hot hand, let's just go, because Brock's been good, he's been solid, but he hasn't knocked
23:09my socks off, really.
23:11And so, of all the options you listed, you know, go with the hot hand, we don't want Brock
23:17to get more hurt, et cetera, et cetera.
23:19I would say D, all of the above, but I think that's an X factor here, which is that Brock
23:25is good.
23:25I'm not saying he's not good.
23:27I don't think he's $256 million good, which is why every time we talk about this issue between
23:34Mac and Brock, we bring up his salary.
23:36That's fair.
23:37And I tell you what, they're not bringing up Lamar Jackson's salary.
23:40They're not bringing up Patrick Mahomes' salary, right?
23:43They're not bringing up Josh Allen's salary, but why are we always talking about how much
23:46we paid Brock?
23:47Because I think there is a question as to whether or not he is a $256 million quarterback.
23:55Oh, there's no doubt.
23:56Samita, it's a great call.
23:58I think all of that is completely fair.
24:00I guess maybe this would be my better way of saying what I was trying to say earlier.
24:04How would you feel about Brock if he had done exactly what Mac had done?
24:08If Brock were 5-3 and had done exactly what Mac had done, would anybody refer to that?
24:13Do you refer to it as a hot hand?
24:16Nope.
24:17No chance.
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