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Proverbs 23 is organized into four divisions. The first section (verses 1-8) advises caution when associating with powerful people, emphasizing proper conduct and the pitfalls of greed and overindulgence. The second part (verses 9-11) stresses the importance of maintaining win-win ethical standards, like not moving ancient landmarks, reflecting God's advocacy for the weak and fatherless. The third division (verses 12-16) focuses on disciplining children out of love and instilling wisdom, which brings joy to the parents' hearts and inner being. Finally, the fourth section (verses 17-35) warns against the dangers of associating with drunkards and gluttons, describing the harmful consequences of overindulgence and lack of self-control.
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00:00:00Proverbs 23. I kind of saw four divisions in this chapter. And, you know, they're up on the screen
00:00:08right now. And I know that other commentators have divided this chapter up differently. And
00:00:14some of those might make more sense than mine, actually, especially the last part of the chapter
00:00:19that's talking about gluttony and drunkenness. But this is what made sense to me. And as we talk,
00:00:27it may continue to make sense, or we may discover something else. So reading the chapter.
00:00:35When you sit down to eat with a ruler, observe carefully what is before you and put a knife to
00:00:40your throat if you are given the appetite. Do not desire his delicacies, for they are deceptive food.
00:00:45Do not toil to acquire wealth, but be discerning enough to desist. When your eyes light on it,
00:00:51it is gone, for suddenly it sprouts wings, flying like an eagle toward heaven. Do not eat the bread
00:00:56of a man who is stingy. Do not desire his delicacies. For he is like one who is inwardly
00:01:02calculating. Eat and drink, he says to you, but his heart is not with you. You will vomit up the
00:01:07morsels that you have eaten and waste your pleasant words. Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he
00:01:12will despise the good sense of your words. Do not move an ancient landmark or enter the fields of the
00:01:18fatherless, for the Redeemer is strong and he will plead their cause against you. Apply your heart to
00:01:24instruction and your ear to words of knowledge. Do not withhold discipline from a child. If you strike
00:01:29him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol.
00:01:36My son, if your heart is wise, my heart too will be glad. My inmost being will exalt when your lips
00:01:41speak what is right. Let not your heart envy sinners, but continue in the fear of the Lord all day.
00:01:48Surely there is a future, and your hope will not be cut off.
00:01:51Hear, my son, and be wise, and direct your heart in the way. Be not among drunkards or among gluttonous
00:01:57eaters of meat, for the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and slumber will clothe them
00:02:02with rags. Listen to your father who gave you life, and do not despise your mother when she is old.
00:02:09Buy truth and do not sell it. Buy wisdom, instruction, and understanding. The father of the righteous will
00:02:14greatly rejoice. He who fathers a wise son will be glad in him. Let your father and mother be glad.
00:02:20Let her who bore you rejoice. My son, give me your heart, and let your eyes observe my ways.
00:02:28For a prostitute is a deep pit, and adulteress is a narrow well. She lies in wait like a robber,
00:02:35and increases the traitors among mankind. Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has
00:02:41complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? Those who tarry long over wine.
00:02:47Those who go to try mixed wine. Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and
00:02:52goes down smoothly. In the end, it bites like a serpent, and stings like an adder. Your eyes will
00:02:58see strange things, and your heart will utter perverse things. You will be like one who lies
00:03:02down in the midst of the sea, like one who lies on the top of a mast. They struck me, you will say,
00:03:08but I was not hurt. They beat me, but I did not feel it. When shall I awake? I must have another
00:03:13drink. And part of that last reminds me of like an old cartoon, like a Mickey Mouse cartoon or
00:03:20something from the 40s. Reminds me of an Irish drinking song. I must have another drink.
00:03:25All right. So starting at the beginning with the self-control around other people, the first
00:03:35three verses are talking about eating with a wealthy or powerful person. It says ruler, but
00:03:43I wonder what the Hebrew word there is. Ruler is Mishal.
00:03:50I find that to be very interesting because in many different areas of scripture, it equates
00:04:01rulers as being sanctioned by God. And as such, it seems odd that if you have somebody sanctioned
00:04:13by God, that you're warned to be careful when you're around them, it's a juxtaposition, you
00:04:23know?
00:04:25Yeah. I read kind of two different interpretations of this. I mean, they're definitely related,
00:04:31but one was more from the perspective that this is a possible, possibly, or probably a wicked
00:04:39ruler. So when you're in their presence, don't, don't put yourself in his debt. Don't accept
00:04:47too many gifts. Um, don't make a fool of yourself because it could really come back to hurt you.
00:04:56And see, um, they're going to be watching you judging your behavior. And this is true of
00:05:03both the wicked and the righteous ruler that they're going to be watching how you behave around
00:05:08things that you don't normally have, you know, luxuries, like, is this person greedy? Does
00:05:14he have self-control? And if you behave yourself well in the presence of a ruler, whether wicked
00:05:19or righteous, you're going to, that's going to raise your character in their eyes. So it's,
00:05:27there's the chance that if you misbehave, it could really do you serious damage. But if you behave
00:05:34yourself really well, it could have a, have a huge reward. Yeah. So you only get one chance to make
00:05:40a good first impression, that type of thing. Yeah. And this is somebody who has a life and death
00:05:45power over you potentially, but you definitely want to make a good impression and you don't want to be
00:05:51like that. You know, the next part where it talks about a stingy man, uh, where's that?
00:05:57Do not eat the bread of a man who is stingy in verse six. Do not desire his delicacies.
00:06:04This is a very similar idea that if you accept gifts from somebody who is stingy,
00:06:10going to accept, he's going to expect something back. He doesn't give anything for free.
00:06:15And the more powerful he is, the more potentially he could be expecting back.
00:06:22Yeah.
00:06:23One thing to illustrate this is, uh, in movies, you know, when, when you've got a mobster or,
00:06:29you know, the mafioso and you ask him for a favor, well, he may give you the favor, but you know,
00:06:36he's going to need a favor back someday. And you can almost guarantee that it's going to be a much
00:06:42bigger favor than what you asked him. Right. At least relative to your circumstances. Yep.
00:06:50It's, it, it's, it highlights the difference between our current society and I won't say
00:07:00ancient, but previous societies where kingships were more dominant or more the norm because the
00:07:11way we look at things in the U S is, Oh, we are a Republic or democracy. Some people will say,
00:07:17which we're not, but regardless, they try to establish a, an equality or you work for me.
00:07:29You know, if you look at a police officer or somebody in Congress, you work for me.
00:07:35It's a nice thought, but it's not how things play out. And I think, you know, although we have a nice
00:07:44facade of what our culture is supposed to be or an ideal, I think it is just that a facade. I don't
00:07:54think there is a reality that people that have acquired power are my equal, at least in their eyes,
00:08:02they will yield that power to benefit. You know, this is sort of outlining a reality,
00:08:10you know, do we, is our society currently, uh, reflective of that reality, you know, whether
00:08:19or not you agree with Donald Trump, you look at the leverage that is being applied to possibly
00:08:27manipulate the legal system to force compliance. And you can take it outside of Donald Trump.
00:08:35You can look at a number of people, a number of scenarios where that's happened. You can allow
00:08:40the people in power know how to massage it and use it and benefit from it. You know, this,
00:08:49this basically be careful when you're around a ruler is it's a truth, even to this day,
00:08:56you know, you may not recognize that person as a ruler, but it puts it on you to, um,
00:09:06to have some discernment in that area as well, you know?
00:09:09Mm-hmm. Yeah. You got, you got to walk carefully around people who have influence and power.
00:09:16Let's see. I lost my notes here. Oh, in verse, uh, verse four and five here, do not toil to a
00:09:26acquire wealth, be discerning enough to desist. When your eyes light on it, it is gone for suddenly
00:09:32it sprouts wings flying like an eagle toward heaven. You know, this, this passage verses
00:09:38one through eight or yeah, are almost a chiasm because this first part is talking about accepting
00:09:47gifts or, you know, dining at the expense of a ruler. The last part is talking about dining at the expense
00:09:54of a miser. And in the middle, you've got a warnings against focusing on wealth. Like don't become these
00:10:02people. And, you know, of course the warning is not against wealth itself. Do not toil to acquire
00:10:09wealth. Well, there's a lot of proverbs that talk about toiling to acquire wealth. So that's not really
00:10:14the point. The point is more, don't focus. Don't make that the focus or the reason that you work just
00:10:19to acquire wealth because then you're going to end up the guy that everybody has to watch out for and
00:10:25be careful around. I wonder what the word for toil there is. Labor. So to be exhausted,
00:10:37to toil, grow weary. So yeah, it's not just talking about, you know, working to acquire things.
00:10:45It's talking about wearing yourself out. Like this is all you do. And it's not just an unbalanced life,
00:10:54but it will, it has the potential to warp you into either the, uh, the miser who is always,
00:11:04who's looks at every relationship, like a transaction or the ruler. Yeah. Or the ruler who's always,
00:11:12you know, evaluating the people around him rather than trying to be their friend, trying to find a
00:11:17friend in them. Right. It's interesting. The beginning talks about appetite and then in verse
00:11:24eight, it talks about vomiting. So, you know, it's the opposite, but it's sort of like if you have a
00:11:34desire for this and that desire is unrighteous, if you have an appetite for unrighteousness,
00:11:40you will basically be vomiting out that, uh, what you take in because it's unrighteous, you know,
00:11:48like poison, you better vomit it out or it's going to affect you.
00:11:53Yeah. I thought it was also interesting how that flowed right into verse nine.
00:11:57I mean, it's talking about the miser and, you know, accepting his gifts.
00:12:04And, but then at the end you will vomit up the morsels that you've eaten and waste your pleasant
00:12:09words. So you're trying to be, you know, engaging company, create some conversation and reward him
00:12:17for inviting you there by being pleasant company. Um, but that's not the way that he looks at things.
00:12:24He's looking for what he can get out of you, not how you can entertain him.
00:12:27Um, and so, you know, it's talking about, you know, you're going to be wasting your words,
00:12:32but then it immediately says, don't speak in the hearing of a fool for he will despise the good
00:12:37sense of your words. The implication there is that the miser who has wasted himself on labor
00:12:44is a fool for doing that. When there are so many more valuable things that he could have been
00:12:49putting his time and energy into. At least that's what I get out of it.
00:12:53What would you care? How would you characterize a fool?
00:12:57A fool? We've spent so much time reading and talking about fools.
00:13:03Right. And now I'm trying to condense it into a single thought.
00:13:07Good question. A fool in general is someone who lets his urges run his life.
00:13:13Okay. So in the case of the miser, it's either his fear that he's not going to have enough when he gets
00:13:20old or his desire to one up somebody or, you know, just the desire to have and have, I mean,
00:13:28there's gotta be something behind that desire. People don't want stuff just to want stuff.
00:13:32They want stuff for the status it gives them or for the security that it gives them things like that.
00:13:37Mm hmm. Um, and then in the same chapter, we also have, you know, people who give into
00:13:45alcohol or lust or, you know, all these, all these physical urges.
00:13:50They'd give us momentary pleasures instead of long lasting joy or contentment.
00:13:57Yeah. It's, it's sort of like a, um, an improper self-absorption.
00:14:05There's gotta be a proper self-absorption because we're all self-aware and we are
00:14:11going to try to self-preserve. But when you lose that sense of, uh, what's the scripture
00:14:20Yeshua said, the most important, love your neighbor as yourself. What is that?
00:14:25Yeah. Love, love the Lord, your God with all your heart.
00:14:27Right. And then love your neighbor as yourself.
00:14:32I think that's the ideal.
00:14:34A fool would be the opposite of that. I mean, that, that's wisdom.
00:14:38Whereas a fool is going to be what we're getting into at the end, you know, about
00:14:42the gluttony, the alcohol, it's sort of plays out later in this chapter of what
00:14:47that looks like. It may not be calling them a fool outright, but
00:14:55I don't think anybody would lift up that type of action as, as, um, desirable, you know, as,
00:15:04as a honorable thing. Yeah. All right. So the next verses 10 and 11,
00:15:13do not move an ancient landmark or enter the fields of the fatherless for the
00:15:18redeemer is strong. He will plead their cause against you.
00:15:21You know, when I was dividing this chapter up,
00:15:24I kind of put that by itself, you know, Yahweh advocates for the weak advocates for the weak.
00:15:29But now that I'm reading it after talking about the rich man and, and, and unbalanced, uh, drive
00:15:38for wealth and then the miser thinking, this is just really an extension of the miser.
00:15:44Don't move an ancient landmark or enter the fields of the fatherless. Why does somebody do that?
00:15:49Because he's greedy for what somebody else has.
00:15:52He's trying to take, you know, somebody who may not be
00:15:56taking full advantage of the resources that God gave them.
00:16:00You may be tempted to move into their place.
00:16:04And you might feel justified in doing that. I mean, I could see myself thinking that way that,
00:16:08you know, this, this guy's got all this land. He's not using it. He's just letting it go to waste.
00:16:13Does it really hurt anything if I just start using this and don't tell him
00:16:16and then maybe move the fence over a little bit when he's not looking?
00:16:19I mean, well, it, it hurts, hurts me.
00:16:25Even if I don't see it right away, it might increase my bottom line, but that.
00:16:32Go ahead. Sorry.
00:16:33I said, well, it might increase my bottom line, but it's going to cost me in other ways.
00:16:38I have a friend that his mother had a house in New Hampshire.
00:16:43And she had like 300 acres. She had a lot of land with it.
00:16:49And my friend was very focused on his acts of righteousness.
00:17:01And he, he had a family that was in need and he had his mother had passed.
00:17:12And he said, no, I have this house.
00:17:15I'm going to sell you this house because it will benefit me and it will benefit you.
00:17:24So he sold them the house at a very reduced price.
00:17:30And I got talking with him. I said, what about the land?
00:17:35Because he sold it off.
00:17:38He never gave thought to the value of the land.
00:17:41It was just the house.
00:17:44So he undercut himself significantly.
00:17:48And the people that he sold it to benefited tremendously.
00:17:54And my friend is a person, even to this day, that's in still much need, you know, financially.
00:18:00I'm listening to this verse about don't move the landmark.
00:18:06And it's almost, if you've heard the win-win scenario or win-lose scenario when you're dealing with a relationship or an interaction.
00:18:15Yeah.
00:18:16His was a win-lose and he didn't realize it.
00:18:19I think if the other people had been a little more, maybe they were clueless as well, but I think if there had been a little bit of wisdom involved, it would have been realized.
00:18:33Because we need to come to a reasonable resolution to this or a reasonable transaction as opposed to, oh, my God, I'm getting such a good deal.
00:18:44I mean, we all do that, right?
00:18:46I think God really wants it to be a win-win situation in most scenarios.
00:18:54I'm not really verbalizing exactly what I'm trying to say, but somehow it applies to this.
00:19:00I think if you have that win-lose mentality, then you are really self-absorbed, you know.
00:19:11Yeah, I think that's right.
00:19:13And it really is just like this scenario because that man was, he was unsuspecting.
00:19:22He didn't know what he was giving up.
00:19:25And those, you know, the buyer took advantage of that.
00:19:27I'm sure that they knew what was going on.
00:19:29Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:34Yeah, but it says that.
00:19:35Okay, here's an example, Jay.
00:19:37How many times have you gone to like the bank or a, maybe doing a transaction at a restaurant or at a grocery store where you have been undercharged?
00:19:51Or the bank gives you money inadvertently wasn't yours.
00:19:56They're going to find it eventually.
00:19:58But, you know, the righteous thing is to acknowledge, hey, you messed up.
00:20:03This is, you know, this is not what the price is.
00:20:07Sometimes it's like, oh, wow, I gave you, you know, I did everything I was supposed to and you messed up and I went.
00:20:14And it's the big corporation, you know.
00:20:15So it speaks a lot to your character because sometimes it's who's going to know, but God knows.
00:20:23And the right thing to do is to acknowledge, I'm sorry, you didn't charge the right price on this, you know.
00:20:31Yeah, they're not exactly the fatherless or the widow, but it's still stealing.
00:20:37This is still somebody else's property.
00:20:39Yep.
00:20:41So what do you think it means in verse 11 when it says, for the Redeemer is strong and he will plead their cause against you?
00:20:47It ties into the, don't move the landmarks or enter a field of the father.
00:20:56God is the one that's going to intercede on their behalf.
00:21:01That's how I see it.
00:21:01How do you think he does that?
00:21:03He's trying to put you on the spot.
00:21:06You did.
00:21:06Good job.
00:21:08You just did a win-lose thing.
00:21:10I don't like you.
00:21:11Let me drag this landmark back.
00:21:14Well, we've talked about this before.
00:21:16I think the Proverbs are presenting an ideal.
00:21:21I would like to think that righteousness will prevail.
00:21:26Does it?
00:21:28It doesn't seem to all the time.
00:21:31But you still have to have that standard.
00:21:35Yeah.
00:21:35I'm thinking about back here in verse 5.
00:21:39Talking about, you know, wearing yourself out to acquire wealth.
00:21:43Yeah.
00:21:44But be discerning enough to desist is, of course, talking about, you know, know when to quit, know when to focus on other things that matter.
00:21:53So this miser or the greedy person who is now taking advantage of his weaker neighbors, you know, moving boundary stones because they can't afford to hire a lawyer to fight him or, you know, whatever it is.
00:22:05Yeah.
00:22:06So this is someone who is unbalanced in his acquisition of wealth.
00:22:11And verse 5 says that, you know, when your eyes light on your wealth, as soon as you see it, it's gone or suddenly it sprouts wings flying like an eagle toward heaven.
00:22:22But we know that many people who acquire wealth through, what's the word I'm looking for, unethical means.
00:22:31Because they just keep getting wealthier and wealthier.
00:22:36And there are times, of course, you know, like people who aren't very smart.
00:22:40But if you're just a criminal and you're trying to take advantage of people, you know, most criminals are stupid.
00:22:46They get caught and they're going to lose whatever it is they gain.
00:22:49But it's these, it's the super wealthy people, really smart ones who get away with it.
00:22:56But I think that the same thing, same conclusion we've come to before in previous chapters, that there are different kinds of wealth and different kinds of rewards.
00:23:04If you focus on the acquisition of wealth to the detriment of relationships and community in your relationship with God, well, you've gained your balance on this column is really high, but your balance on all these others are suffering.
00:23:26And so it's not that your net worth has gained at all.
00:23:31Your net worth might have even gone down because what's the point of having money?
00:23:37I mean, other, I mean, you get physical security and you get comforts for today, but the relationships, the people that you would enjoy it with and, you know, the extended community, those things are frequently missing.
00:23:52I can't imagine that somebody like, like Bill Gates or Elon Musk have a lot of meaningful relationships.
00:24:00They have a lot of relationships, but they're all based on money.
00:24:04They're all transactional or they're all based on, Elon Musk is a crazy one because they're all based on how many kids he can have with how many women, I guess.
00:24:15I don't really know.
00:24:17I didn't know that about him.
00:24:18Interesting.
00:24:19Yeah, it's a really weird situation.
00:24:22I think he has like 11 or 12 kids.
00:24:25And I really doubt that he has a relationship with more than two or three of them at most.
00:24:31That's sad.
00:24:33But these are, this is the kind of wealth that a lot of those people will never experience.
00:24:38They are relationship poor if they're gold rich and it's because they focused on the wrong thing.
00:24:47So one way or another, those scales are going to balance out.
00:24:51And that may be one way in which the redeemer pleads their cause against you.
00:24:57It, you know, you've gained wealth and you've got lots of comfortable stuff, but it's possible that you're miserable too.
00:25:05I mean, I don't know those people, so, I mean, I can't really say what their life is like.
00:25:08I'm just speculating.
00:25:10It's interesting though.
00:25:13I would think a stronger application would be there'll be justice.
00:25:21That's not what it says.
00:25:22It says he will plead your cause.
00:25:27Okay.
00:25:29Does that mean there's justice?
00:25:31No, it just says he'll plead your cause.
00:25:33It's, it's, it's sort of open-ended.
00:25:36It's, it's an odd, odd verse.
00:25:39Yeah.
00:25:39Well, even then, I mean, there's no guarantee that the fatherless or the widows are righteous people.
00:25:44No.
00:25:45They may have their own, you know, screwed up balance sheet.
00:25:49Right.
00:25:49You know, that, that brings up an interesting thing in his verse.
00:25:53He will plead their cause against you.
00:25:56Well, to whom does he plead their cause?
00:25:58If the redeemer is God.
00:26:00Well, I presume it's Yeshua pleading on, pleading to God.
00:26:06Yeah.
00:26:06I think so too.
00:26:07It's, it's Yeshua in his role as, as the kinsman redeemer or.
00:26:12Yeah.
00:26:13Yeah.
00:26:14In that role, he is pleading to the father.
00:26:17And, you know, just like Satan is an accuser.
00:26:20Yeshua is our advocate.
00:26:21We've got a lawyer on both sides.
00:26:24One, one against us and one for us, at least, you know, hopefully that's the way it works out.
00:26:30If we're.
00:26:31Yeah, it's sort of like.
00:26:31On the right side.
00:26:33In old time radio shows or, or even TV shows that you see now, you might have somebody that is.
00:26:41Has broken the law.
00:26:44He was a, a participant in some sort of act, whether it's egregious or not.
00:26:52And he is approached by the police and they've caught him and.
00:26:58Or they're, they're at least giving him the chance to come clean.
00:27:02And they often say.
00:27:05Will you advocate for me to the court?
00:27:09And the response is often.
00:27:12We can't say what will happen.
00:27:15I think if you show cooperation, it will likely go better for you, but they don't commit to it.
00:27:21Right.
00:27:22And it's sort of the same here.
00:27:23Or, you know, it's, will, Yeshua will advocate on your behalf and means you have to let it play out.
00:27:33It's an interesting idea.
00:27:36Yep.
00:27:36And it says the Redeemer is strong, not will be strong.
00:27:40This is another, another place that shows.
00:27:44The preexistence of Yeshua.
00:27:47His eternal nature.
00:27:49You know, we talked about disciplining children before.
00:27:52I don't know if there's anything really that we need to add to that.
00:27:56Is there something you wanted to say?
00:27:58Let's see.
00:28:00Starting in 13.
00:28:02Yeah.
00:28:03Yeah.
00:28:04I mean.
00:28:06You discipline because you love and you want them not to.
00:28:10Needlessly suffer, but.
00:28:13They need to respond.
00:28:14You know, the goal is to be a wise, you know, for your children to be wise.
00:28:21And then.
00:28:24And later, it talks about, you know, honoring your mother and father, but.
00:28:28That's sort of.
00:28:30The ultimate goal.
00:28:32For what you're trying to establish here.
00:28:36That's proper relation.
00:28:38You know, parent under child.
00:28:41And then hopefully the parent has the wisdom to.
00:28:44Appropriately apply.
00:28:47Judgment.
00:28:49Yeah.
00:28:49Appropriately.
00:28:51The King James translates that.
00:28:53Word for the strike.
00:28:55As beat.
00:28:57And, you know, I don't know exactly what that word meant in 1611.
00:29:02But I think it kind of has the wrong connotation now.
00:29:05The word can mean beat.
00:29:06Apparently, it can mean to smite or kill somebody, too.
00:29:10But the literal meaning is to just hit somebody.
00:29:15So it's not talking about, you know, a severe beating or anything like that.
00:29:18There may be times when that's necessary.
00:29:20I don't.
00:29:21I don't know.
00:29:21There.
00:29:21There are kids out there.
00:29:25Who are not something that I can understand.
00:29:27And so who knows if there's some child out there who really needs to be beaten.
00:29:33I kind of doubt it.
00:29:34I tend to think that that's going to be counterproductive.
00:29:36But I think there are very, very few who don't need to be strict.
00:29:41Strucken.
00:29:42Strucken.
00:29:43Struck.
00:29:43Striked.
00:29:44Whatever the right term is.
00:29:47At least once in their childhood.
00:29:50Some of them, that's all it takes.
00:29:52I've seen scenarios.
00:29:55I've incurred.
00:29:57This infestration.
00:30:00At times when I was raising my kids.
00:30:03And it probably has to do with.
00:30:07My inconsistency.
00:30:09But I've seen where.
00:30:13Discipline has not.
00:30:16It was thumbed.
00:30:18The nose was thumbed at it.
00:30:20Discipline.
00:30:21And that probably because.
00:30:24Of.
00:30:26My.
00:30:27Past.
00:30:30Interaction.
00:30:31Or lack thereof.
00:30:31But I mean, I have seen.
00:30:33Some internet stories whereby.
00:30:35You have.
00:30:37Some children.
00:30:38That are suffering from.
00:30:41Schizophrenia.
00:30:42There's no way to reach them because of the mental.
00:30:53Emotional issues that they're struggling with.
00:30:56So, you know.
00:30:57I would.
00:30:59I would like to say this is universal.
00:31:01But I'm not sure.
00:31:03Right.
00:31:03It's.
00:31:04Always going.
00:31:04I don't.
00:31:05I don't think there's a one size fits all when it comes to disciplining children.
00:31:09Yeah.
00:31:10One of.
00:31:10There's a key phrase, I think, in the previous.
00:31:13The previous chapter.
00:31:14That talked about this.
00:31:15Where it talks about.
00:31:18Bring up a child in the way that he should go.
00:31:20And one of the interpretations of.
00:31:23In the way that he should go.
00:31:24Is.
00:31:25In the way that is appropriate for this child.
00:31:28Or.
00:31:28Discipline him.
00:31:29In the manner.
00:31:30That is appropriate for this child.
00:31:32So that each child needs to be disciplined.
00:31:34Right.
00:31:34Differently.
00:31:36Yeah.
00:31:37Yeah.
00:31:37Only having raised one.
00:31:40Myself.
00:31:41I don't have a lot of real world experience there.
00:31:44Watch other people's kids.
00:31:47Yeah.
00:31:48I'd like to say.
00:31:50I'm wiser now.
00:31:52And could do it better.
00:31:53I'm certainly older.
00:31:54Don't have the stamina for it.
00:31:56Yeah.
00:31:58It's just the truth.
00:32:01Honestly.
00:32:03I would probably fall into the same habits as I did before.
00:32:08And.
00:32:10Would want to be purposeful.
00:32:11But.
00:32:13I don't know if I could do it.
00:32:15You know.
00:32:16Even though I have this quote unquote wisdom.
00:32:19It's daunting.
00:32:21Yeah.
00:32:22I got to pray for my.
00:32:23My daughter.
00:32:25And my sons.
00:32:26And.
00:32:26You know.
00:32:26My grandkids.
00:32:27Because.
00:32:29They're doing a good job.
00:32:30But it's.
00:32:31It's a very.
00:32:34Exacting.
00:32:35It takes a toll.
00:32:36And it's.
00:32:39Yeah.
00:32:39Yeah.
00:32:40I think grandparents are.
00:32:42Have the wisdom.
00:32:43They know what needs to be done.
00:32:45Right.
00:32:45But the doing is better left to the younger generation.
00:32:48And.
00:32:49Well.
00:32:49While the grandparents can spoil.
00:32:51And then send them back home.
00:32:53Yeah.
00:32:53That's true.
00:32:55That is true.
00:32:57There's something in.
00:32:59Verses 15 and 16.
00:33:01A couple of things really.
00:33:01That I wanted to point out.
00:33:02Actually made a slide for this one.
00:33:06Oh.
00:33:07Verses 15 and 16.
00:33:09And.
00:33:10This is the English standard version.
00:33:11But you'll notice that I changed one of the words.
00:33:14My son.
00:33:14If your heart be wise.
00:33:16My heart too will be glad.
00:33:17My kidneys will rejoice.
00:33:18When your lips speak what is right.
00:33:21Kidneys.
00:33:22Kidneys.
00:33:23Yeah.
00:33:23That is the literal word.
00:33:26Let me.
00:33:27Put the Bible back over here.
00:33:28So my inner.
00:33:31Innermost being is kidneys.
00:33:34Mm-hmm.
00:33:35So there's a reference.
00:33:35Yeah.
00:33:35King James translates it as reins.
00:33:37Which I thought was odd.
00:33:39But there's a reference.
00:33:41I know we've gone over this before.
00:33:44About kidneys.
00:33:45Mm-hmm.
00:33:46But.
00:33:47You're going to go someplace.
00:33:48I know you are.
00:33:50Yeah.
00:33:52In.
00:33:52All ancient peoples had some.
00:33:54What we would consider strange ideas.
00:33:56About what more.
00:33:57Different organs did.
00:33:58You know.
00:33:59This.
00:33:59Heart is also in this one.
00:34:01In.
00:34:03In verse 15.
00:34:04It says.
00:34:05You know.
00:34:05If your heart be wise.
00:34:06My heart too will be glad.
00:34:09But it's not really your heart.
00:34:10That's glad.
00:34:11Or your heart that's wise.
00:34:12It's soul.
00:34:13It's.
00:34:13Yeah.
00:34:14It's your soul.
00:34:14Your mind.
00:34:15Your emotions.
00:34:16All of this stuff.
00:34:17Is.
00:34:17I mean.
00:34:18Wisdom incorporates everything.
00:34:20Right.
00:34:20And not just.
00:34:21Not just your thought processes.
00:34:22But.
00:34:23The stuff that's a lot more intangible than that.
00:34:26So.
00:34:26I mean.
00:34:26We use the same phraseology today.
00:34:29We talk about heart.
00:34:31When we mean our inmost being.
00:34:33Yeah.
00:34:33With the ancients.
00:34:35They were.
00:34:35When they talked about heart.
00:34:36It was really more conscious sort of stuff.
00:34:39But our inmost being.
00:34:41What we call our gut feeling.
00:34:43Mm-hmm.
00:34:43We call it that because we've inherited that sort of idea from these ancient peoples.
00:34:48Where.
00:34:49The seat of your emotions was in your gut.
00:34:51Or the seat of your strength was in your gut.
00:34:54And here.
00:34:55They're literally saying.
00:34:56My kidneys will rejoice.
00:34:58I mean.
00:34:59Inmost being is a great translation.
00:35:01It's just not literal.
00:35:02And one of the things that I wanted to point out about this is that.
00:35:07I don't know whether they knew.
00:35:10That kidneys don't actually rejoice.
00:35:13And I don't know.
00:35:13Maybe at some level they actually do rejoice.
00:35:15Or respond in some way to.
00:35:18You know.
00:35:18Good news.
00:35:19But.
00:35:20We know that in general.
00:35:22It is our mind.
00:35:23And.
00:35:24Our nervous system overall.
00:35:26You know.
00:35:27The endocrine system.
00:35:28That's creating feelings of joy.
00:35:31And energy.
00:35:32And making us want to jump up and down.
00:35:34And not our kidneys.
00:35:37But.
00:35:37It's not the specific words that are so important.
00:35:41As the meaning that they intended to convey.
00:35:44So if he says.
00:35:45You know.
00:35:45My heart will be glad.
00:35:47It's not talking about the organ in your chest.
00:35:49It's talking about.
00:35:50You know.
00:35:50My soul.
00:35:50I mean.
00:35:51I will be glad.
00:35:53When it's talking about the kidneys.
00:35:54It's not talking about these organs that.
00:35:56Filter out.
00:35:58Urine and blood.
00:35:59Or whatever.
00:35:59Whatever kidneys do.
00:36:00I don't know.
00:36:01But that's not the point.
00:36:03The point is that.
00:36:05Whatever is in me.
00:36:07That responds with joy.
00:36:09That's what's going to respond.
00:36:11And.
00:36:12There are other topics that I'm.
00:36:14Don't necessarily want to get into.
00:36:16That.
00:36:17People will latch on to a.
00:36:19Hyper literal.
00:36:20Translation.
00:36:21Or a hyper literal interpretation.
00:36:23Of a scripture.
00:36:25And say.
00:36:25The Bible says this.
00:36:29So.
00:36:29The Bible says.
00:36:30Kidneys will rejoice.
00:36:32So we know.
00:36:33That.
00:36:34When you're happy.
00:36:35It's because your kidneys.
00:36:36Are responding to some.
00:36:38Whatever is happening around you.
00:36:39Not because.
00:36:41You know.
00:36:41Whatever.
00:36:43It's just a.
00:36:45It's a.
00:36:46I think that approach.
00:36:47Is ignorant of the way.
00:36:49That languages work.
00:36:49And languages.
00:36:51Are so full of idioms.
00:36:54That.
00:36:54They're almost incomprehensible.
00:36:56If like to an alien.
00:36:58Who would come here.
00:36:59In like.
00:37:00They would know the literal meaning.
00:37:01Of all the words.
00:37:02Mm-hmm.
00:37:03They would be clueless.
00:37:04About what we're saying.
00:37:05Even if they knew.
00:37:05The meaning of all the words.
00:37:07Right.
00:37:07Because.
00:37:08Everything we say.
00:37:09Is so full of idioms.
00:37:11Yep.
00:37:12Yeah.
00:37:13Go ahead.
00:37:13You're trying to say.
00:37:15Having suffered.
00:37:16Didn't you know this.
00:37:17Mm-hmm.
00:37:19Multiple years.
00:37:22Hospitalized last year.
00:37:23Because of kidney stones.
00:37:25I know that.
00:37:26If I take the opposite of this.
00:37:29Mm-hmm.
00:37:29My kid.
00:37:30Not rejoicing.
00:37:31To me.
00:37:34The kidney not rejoicing.
00:37:36From my personal experience.
00:37:38Is hellacious.
00:37:40Extreme pain.
00:37:42Extreme suffering.
00:37:44And.
00:37:45If.
00:37:46I did not have.
00:37:47A doctor.
00:37:48Yeah.
00:37:48Probably death.
00:37:50At least in my circumstance.
00:37:52Because.
00:37:52Of what I encountered.
00:37:54So.
00:37:55You know.
00:37:56I'm just taking the opposite.
00:37:57Approach of this.
00:37:59If your kidneys.
00:38:00Are not rejoicing.
00:38:04Physically.
00:38:06Extreme.
00:38:07Discomfort.
00:38:08And pain.
00:38:09So.
00:38:10Rejoicing.
00:38:11I'm not saying.
00:38:12Hey.
00:38:12Yay.
00:38:12It's everything's good.
00:38:14Kidneys rejoicing.
00:38:15Is sort of a lack of.
00:38:19Of.
00:38:22Malady.
00:38:23You know.
00:38:24And where.
00:38:25Malady could be.
00:38:26Debilitating.
00:38:28So.
00:38:29That idea.
00:38:30Yeah.
00:38:31That's a.
00:38:32I hadn't even thought of that perspective.
00:38:35I've lived it.
00:38:37Yeah.
00:38:39Yeah.
00:38:40Yeah.
00:38:40So there is a way in which.
00:38:42Kidneys can be.
00:38:44Happy or unhappy.
00:38:45At least in a metaphorical sense.
00:38:47I mean.
00:38:47Your kidneys aren't the one that's unhappy.
00:38:48They're just sending signals to your brain.
00:38:50To tell you that you ought to be unhappy.
00:38:52Yeah.
00:38:53And then the rest of you complies.
00:38:55Right.
00:38:57Right.
00:38:58One thing that I thought.
00:39:00My son.
00:39:01If your heart is wise.
00:39:03My heart will be glad.
00:39:04And my kidneys will rejoice could be.
00:39:09And.
00:39:10You will be in health.
00:39:13Your lips will speak what is right.
00:39:15I mean.
00:39:15That's a.
00:39:16A way of thinking of it.
00:39:19Yeah.
00:39:19That's possible.
00:39:20I think really is talking about how.
00:39:23You know.
00:39:23When you witness your children become.
00:39:26Not just functioning adults.
00:39:29But wise.
00:39:30And.
00:39:32Really successful adults.
00:39:34Yeah.
00:39:35There's a joy.
00:39:37And a contentment there.
00:39:38That.
00:39:39Probably can't be matched in anything.
00:39:41You know.
00:39:41That.
00:39:42The pride of being a.
00:39:43You know.
00:39:43A proud parent.
00:39:44Not pride like.
00:39:45Look at me.
00:39:46I'm great.
00:39:46But.
00:39:47I am so proud of you.
00:39:48Kind of thing.
00:39:50Yeah.
00:39:50I think that's really what's.
00:39:52What's going on here.
00:39:54But yeah.
00:39:54There are definitely.
00:39:55Side effects of that.
00:39:56Better health.
00:39:57Is one side effect of.
00:39:59Being happier with your life.
00:40:01Yeah.
00:40:01But I mean.
00:40:02If the overall.
00:40:03Statement is about health.
00:40:05Then you can apply that to the help of your relationship with them.
00:40:10The help of.
00:40:11Their relationship to you and to the world.
00:40:14I mean.
00:40:14We're going to get into a little bit later.
00:40:16You know.
00:40:17The relationship between parent and children.
00:40:19That's a beautiful thing.
00:40:24That is.
00:40:25It's.
00:40:26It's edifying.
00:40:27And.
00:40:28It is.
00:40:28Oh.
00:40:29I've.
00:40:30I've been successful.
00:40:32In.
00:40:33Passing on a lineage.
00:40:35Of.
00:40:36Honor.
00:40:36You feel that.
00:40:40That.
00:40:40You have.
00:40:43Perpetuated.
00:40:44Something good.
00:40:46Um.
00:40:48Which.
00:40:49Whether you.
00:40:50Appropriate that or not.
00:40:52If you feel that you've.
00:40:55Perpetuated something that.
00:40:57Ain't so good.
00:40:59Yeah.
00:41:00That gets into your soul.
00:41:01That.
00:41:01That affects you.
00:41:02That.
00:41:02Whether you believe it or whether you.
00:41:05Acknowledge it or not.
00:41:07It weighs upon you.
00:41:09Because you're worried about them.
00:41:10You're worried about your grandkids.
00:41:14You know.
00:41:15Yeah.
00:41:16You.
00:41:18When you have a child that.
00:41:21Has established for themselves.
00:41:24Their own.
00:41:27Standard.
00:41:28As opposed to a standard that has been.
00:41:31Traditional.
00:41:31Like the Bible.
00:41:33The word.
00:41:33It's.
00:41:34Tried and true.
00:41:35Right.
00:41:36The.
00:41:38You're in uncharted territory.
00:41:40You don't know.
00:41:40You don't.
00:41:41You have no assurance that.
00:41:43Their approach is going to be sound.
00:41:46And healthy.
00:41:48And.
00:41:50That's your concern is.
00:41:53There's a way.
00:41:55That is.
00:41:56Right.
00:41:57And established.
00:41:58And then there's a way that's.
00:42:02Not that.
00:42:04Yeah.
00:42:04And when it's not that.
00:42:06You don't have any.
00:42:08Guideposts that.
00:42:09That are going to tell you.
00:42:11Ah.
00:42:12You're going to come back.
00:42:15Into help.
00:42:16You know.
00:42:18It's a very cryptic way of trying to.
00:42:20Say something that.
00:42:22I really don't want to get in too much detail on.
00:42:23But.
00:42:24I think that's.
00:42:27You know.
00:42:28When you.
00:42:28When we're looking at this.
00:42:29These verses.
00:42:30And the verses forthcoming.
00:42:31I think that's where it's.
00:42:32It's pointing to.
00:42:34Yeah.
00:42:35There's that other proverb.
00:42:37Hope deferred.
00:42:38Makes the heart sick.
00:42:39That if you're always looking for something.
00:42:41That.
00:42:42Never happens.
00:42:43Or that becomes increasingly.
00:42:45Less likely.
00:42:47It really can't have a serious.
00:42:49Impact on your health.
00:42:51Yeah.
00:42:51All right.
00:42:53Well let's.
00:42:54Let's move on into.
00:42:56Dinners.
00:42:57Drunkards.
00:42:58Glutton.
00:42:59Gluttonous eaters of meat.
00:43:01It's really talking about meat.
00:43:03There.
00:43:04It might be.
00:43:05Because.
00:43:06Meat was generally a more expensive thing.
00:43:09Yeah.
00:43:11Plus.
00:43:12Yeah.
00:43:13Really talking about meat.
00:43:14A lot of times when scripture says meat.
00:43:17At least.
00:43:18With King James.
00:43:19And some older translations.
00:43:20It really just means food.
00:43:22But in this case.
00:43:23It really does mean meat.
00:43:24It's talking about rich foods.
00:43:27And I think this is.
00:43:28This is really.
00:43:29The essence of the fool.
00:43:30Is that.
00:43:32He's.
00:43:34Indulging in.
00:43:35In whatever makes him happy right now.
00:43:38Instead of.
00:43:39What will.
00:43:40Bring him.
00:43:41Security and happiness.
00:43:42Down the road.
00:43:44And rather than dealing with problems.
00:43:46You can just.
00:43:48Have a drink.
00:43:49Forget about your problems.
00:43:50Don't solve them.
00:43:52Yeah.
00:43:52The modern day proverb.
00:43:53Of the ant.
00:43:54And the grasshopper.
00:43:57That's just so true.
00:43:58And it's so.
00:43:59Throughout.
00:44:00The proverbs.
00:44:01In many different.
00:44:03Areas.
00:44:03This would be one of them.
00:44:04You know.
00:44:05You're so.
00:44:07Full of.
00:44:09Of.
00:44:10The now.
00:44:11And the.
00:44:12In what's before you.
00:44:15You know.
00:44:15The.
00:44:17The temporary.
00:44:19That you don't plan.
00:44:20For.
00:44:20The eternal.
00:44:21Or for the.
00:44:22The.
00:44:23The hard times.
00:44:24Forthcoming.
00:44:25Now that's not stingy.
00:44:26Like it was earlier.
00:44:28We're talking about planning.
00:44:29We're talking about.
00:44:31You know.
00:44:32The ability to.
00:44:33Weather.
00:44:34Storms.
00:44:35Right.
00:44:36So.
00:44:38It does the stingy man.
00:44:40Ever.
00:44:42Celebrate.
00:44:44Yeah.
00:44:44You know.
00:44:45I'm sure he does at times.
00:44:46In.
00:44:47You know.
00:44:47On the whole.
00:44:48He's probably better off.
00:44:50Than the drunkard.
00:44:52You know.
00:44:53Yeah.
00:44:53At least.
00:44:54He does have security.
00:44:56He probably has family.
00:44:57Of some kind.
00:44:58And.
00:44:59He has access to.
00:45:01Doctors.
00:45:02Or.
00:45:02You know.
00:45:02Comforts of life.
00:45:04If he wants them.
00:45:06Whereas the drunkard.
00:45:07He is.
00:45:09Like.
00:45:09Says in verse.
00:45:1021.
00:45:11The drunkard.
00:45:12And the glutton.
00:45:12Will come to poverty.
00:45:13And slumber.
00:45:14Will clothe them with rags.
00:45:16So.
00:45:17You're destroying.
00:45:18Your relationships.
00:45:19You are.
00:45:20Alienating yourself.
00:45:21From your community.
00:45:22You are.
00:45:24Spending.
00:45:25All of the stuff.
00:45:25The.
00:45:26All of the funds.
00:45:26That you could be using.
00:45:28To make your life.
00:45:29More secure.
00:45:30And more comfortable.
00:45:31And you're destroying.
00:45:32Your ability.
00:45:32To get more funds.
00:45:34So.
00:45:35It's like.
00:45:35Every column.
00:45:37Is.
00:45:38Coming down.
00:45:39There.
00:45:40There's no compensation.
00:45:40For that.
00:45:42Other than just.
00:45:43You know.
00:45:43Having fun.
00:45:44For a day.
00:45:44And forgetting.
00:45:45Your troubles.
00:45:46Until tomorrow.
00:45:48Which is interesting.
00:45:49Because there is scripture.
00:45:50That talks about.
00:45:52Drinking.
00:45:53To forget.
00:45:55Yeah.
00:45:55That's in the Proverbs.
00:45:56I don't.
00:45:57I don't.
00:45:57I can't remember.
00:45:57If we've already been there.
00:45:58Or not.
00:46:00But it's.
00:46:00There is a proverb.
00:46:02It's almost like.
00:46:02Hey.
00:46:03These guys are gonna.
00:46:05They're not redeemable.
00:46:06Let them get drunk.
00:46:07And forget.
00:46:08And that's.
00:46:09Sort of what it says.
00:46:10Right?
00:46:11Yeah.
00:46:12Let.
00:46:13Let's the.
00:46:14Let the one who's miserable.
00:46:16Drink.
00:46:17Yeah.
00:46:18And.
00:46:18You know.
00:46:19That's.
00:46:19It's true to an extent.
00:46:21I'm.
00:46:22Of the opinion.
00:46:23That.
00:46:25There's.
00:46:25You know.
00:46:26The Bible never condemns.
00:46:28Drinking alcohol.
00:46:30It condemns.
00:46:31Drunkenness.
00:46:32Right.
00:46:32But there's no command.
00:46:33Against it.
00:46:34So it's not necessarily.
00:46:35A sin.
00:46:37To be a drunk.
00:46:38It's unwise.
00:46:39It's foolish.
00:46:41And it will cause you.
00:46:42To do things that are sin.
00:46:43For example.
00:46:44Neglecting your family.
00:46:45Not taking.
00:46:46Not providing for your wife.
00:46:47And your children.
00:46:48Teaching your children.
00:46:50It leads to sin.
00:46:51But it's not sin.
00:46:52In itself.
00:46:53And I think.
00:46:54Even.
00:46:54There's nothing.
00:46:56Necessarily wrong.
00:46:57With even getting drunk.
00:46:59On rare occasions.
00:47:01In an appropriate context.
00:47:03Of course.
00:47:04That.
00:47:05Is the question of.
00:47:06When is an appropriate context.
00:47:08For that.
00:47:09And.
00:47:09There is at least one time.
00:47:11In Torah.
00:47:12In God's law.
00:47:13Where it.
00:47:13Encourages people.
00:47:14To drink.
00:47:15To the point of.
00:47:16Drunkenness.
00:47:17And that's at.
00:47:19At Sukkot.
00:47:20When it says.
00:47:21This is the.
00:47:22The feast of ingathering.
00:47:25You know.
00:47:25You're.
00:47:25Everybody goes to Jerusalem.
00:47:26And if you can't carry.
00:47:28All of your produce there.
00:47:29To tithe.
00:47:29The first fruits.
00:47:30Of your fall harvest.
00:47:32You sell it here.
00:47:33And you buy.
00:47:34Whatever your heart.
00:47:35Desires.
00:47:36In Jerusalem.
00:47:37Including strong drink.
00:47:38And celebrate.
00:47:39Before the Lord.
00:47:40So there are.
00:47:42Occasions.
00:47:42Where drinking.
00:47:43Even to.
00:47:44What would normally.
00:47:44Be considered.
00:47:45Excess.
00:47:46Is acceptable.
00:47:47As long as it doesn't become.
00:47:49A habitual thing.
00:47:51As long as it's not.
00:47:52Keeping you from.
00:47:54You know.
00:47:55Meeting your obligations.
00:47:56And.
00:47:57You know.
00:47:57Being a husband.
00:47:58And a father.
00:47:59And a community elder.
00:48:00And if you're getting drunk.
00:48:02On a regular basis.
00:48:04I can guarantee you.
00:48:05That those things are suffering.
00:48:08Yeah.
00:48:09But how do you define.
00:48:10Regular basis.
00:48:12Not up to me.
00:48:14That.
00:48:14I think that.
00:48:15That is solely determined.
00:48:17By.
00:48:18Another person's life.
00:48:20In their circumstances.
00:48:23If a man is.
00:48:24If a man is a widower.
00:48:27Has no children.
00:48:28Has no.
00:48:29Nothing.
00:48:31I'm sure that there's.
00:48:32Something that God has for him to do.
00:48:34But I'm not going to fault him.
00:48:35For getting drunk more often.
00:48:38Well.
00:48:38That means.
00:48:39Old people can drink like a sieve.
00:48:41Right.
00:48:42That's okay.
00:48:43You're old.
00:48:44A nuance on this.
00:48:46Okay.
00:48:47My first take was.
00:48:49Talking about.
00:48:51Me.
00:48:52Talking about.
00:48:55My drinking.
00:48:56It's not what it says.
00:48:58It says.
00:48:59Be not among.
00:49:01Drunkards.
00:49:02I think you can.
00:49:03If you're among.
00:49:05Drunkards.
00:49:05Or gluttons.
00:49:07You're partaking.
00:49:09Yeah.
00:49:10Or they're at least.
00:49:10Influencing you.
00:49:12Yeah.
00:49:13Be not among.
00:49:14So.
00:49:14Why be not among.
00:49:17Because.
00:49:18If I'm hanging out.
00:49:20With these people.
00:49:20If I am.
00:49:23Giving credence.
00:49:24To these people.
00:49:24And.
00:49:25And I.
00:49:26I'm assuming.
00:49:27Be among them.
00:49:28Is saying.
00:49:28I'm doing it on a very.
00:49:29Regular basis.
00:49:31Then.
00:49:32You've got to realize.
00:49:34You're not.
00:49:36Acquiring wisdom.
00:49:39From.
00:49:41A good source.
00:49:44Because they're drunk.
00:49:46Yeah.
00:49:46Because.
00:49:47There's a.
00:49:47There's an aspect.
00:49:49Of this chapter.
00:49:50That I hadn't noticed.
00:49:51Before.
00:49:52The end of the chapter.
00:49:53Is talking about.
00:49:55Or at least.
00:49:56This section.
00:49:56We're in right now.
00:49:57Is talking about.
00:49:58Being in the company.
00:49:59Of drunks.
00:49:59And gluttons.
00:50:01The beginning.
00:50:01Of the chapter.
00:50:02Is talking about.
00:50:03Being in the company.
00:50:04Of powerful.
00:50:05And wealthy people.
00:50:07Right.
00:50:07Right.
00:50:08And.
00:50:08Those people.
00:50:09Might.
00:50:10Become drunkards.
00:50:11But.
00:50:12I guarantee you.
00:50:12They were not drunkards.
00:50:13When they became.
00:50:14Wealthy and powerful.
00:50:14They became that way.
00:50:16Because of self-discipline.
00:50:19And their self-discipline.
00:50:20Might have been unbalanced.
00:50:23But.
00:50:23It's still.
00:50:25They still reaped a reward.
00:50:26Because of it.
00:50:27And this very first part.
00:50:29Where it says.
00:50:30When you sit down.
00:50:31To eat with a ruler.
00:50:32Observe carefully.
00:50:33What is before you.
00:50:34It doesn't necessarily say.
00:50:37What food is set down.
00:50:38Before you.
00:50:39I mean.
00:50:39That is the implication.
00:50:40And.
00:50:41It's clearly.
00:50:42That's part of what is meant.
00:50:43But it's also.
00:50:44Could be talking about.
00:50:45The ruler himself.
00:50:47And the people.
00:50:47Who are around him.
00:50:49Right.
00:50:49So if you're going to be.
00:50:50In the company.
00:50:51Of powerful people.
00:50:52Observe them.
00:50:54And observe the way.
00:50:54That their company behaves.
00:50:56And.
00:50:57If these are righteous people.
00:50:58If they're good people.
00:51:00Then you should start.
00:51:01To emulate them.
00:51:02You should pattern your life.
00:51:03After theirs.
00:51:04If they're not.
00:51:05You know.
00:51:06Be careful.
00:51:06Don't be like them.
00:51:07But learn from them.
00:51:08What you can.
00:51:10On the drunkard.
00:51:10The drunkards and gluttons.
00:51:11On the other hand.
00:51:13Right.
00:51:13There's very little.
00:51:14To learn from them.
00:51:15They have wasted everything.
00:51:16Exactly.
00:51:17Exactly.
00:51:18Yeah.
00:51:19Yeah.
00:51:21What else we got here.
00:51:23About 10 after 8.
00:51:24Right now.
00:51:26Oh.
00:51:27After that.
00:51:27It goes into.
00:51:30The.
00:51:30The strange woman.
00:51:32Or as the ESV.
00:51:33Puts it.
00:51:33The prostitute.
00:51:35Right.
00:51:36Sure.
00:51:36King James says.
00:51:37Well.
00:51:38King James says.
00:51:39For a whore.
00:51:39Is a deep ditch.
00:51:40Well.
00:51:42That's interesting.
00:51:44But what is the literal meaning?
00:51:47The literal meaning.
00:51:48Is a harlot.
00:51:49Or a prostitute.
00:51:50So.
00:51:50That's pretty clear.
00:51:51Right.
00:51:52Right.
00:51:53I could have sworn.
00:51:53Somewhere in here.
00:51:54It said.
00:51:55The strange woman.
00:51:57I guess not.
00:51:59I was actually on verse 23.
00:52:01Myself.
00:52:02Mm-hmm.
00:52:03Oh yeah.
00:52:04By truth.
00:52:04And do not sell it.
00:52:05By wisdom.
00:52:07Instruction.
00:52:08And understanding.
00:52:08I will reference.
00:52:12A.
00:52:14Discussion.
00:52:16That was had.
00:52:17On one of our boards.
00:52:19Yesterday.
00:52:21And.
00:52:23Many people were pondering.
00:52:26A.
00:52:27Jonathan Kahn.
00:52:29Video.
00:52:30I listened to the video.
00:52:33And.
00:52:33To me.
00:52:34The video was.
00:52:35Yeah.
00:52:35You made a good statement.
00:52:36A proper statement.
00:52:37About.
00:52:38Wow.
00:52:38This shooting was demonically inspired.
00:52:40I mean.
00:52:41You could have just said it like that.
00:52:42But it was.
00:52:43Wrapped in the.
00:52:44The mystery of this.
00:52:45And the mystery of.
00:52:46And I just.
00:52:47And numerology.
00:52:48And whatnot.
00:52:49And I have a problem with that.
00:52:50But.
00:52:52Put that aside.
00:52:53Is that not.
00:52:57Peddling.
00:52:58Quote unquote.
00:52:59A truth.
00:52:59You packaging it in.
00:53:01A mystery of.
00:53:02Form.
00:53:04And then.
00:53:06Selling it.
00:53:07So that you become the.
00:53:10Sage that people look to.
00:53:12For.
00:53:13Oh.
00:53:13What other mysteries do you have.
00:53:14That you want me to be aware of.
00:53:16Or.
00:53:16You know.
00:53:18This.
00:53:20Veiled.
00:53:20Wisdom that you are claiming.
00:53:22I mean.
00:53:23Yeah.
00:53:23Theology.
00:53:25Yeah.
00:53:26Exactly.
00:53:27Exactly.
00:53:28And.
00:53:29When I read that.
00:53:30That's what came to mind.
00:53:32Wasn't necessarily Jonathan Cahn.
00:53:33That was just.
00:53:34What I brought up for this.
00:53:35I mean.
00:53:36There have been a number of.
00:53:37People that I've seen.
00:53:39Peddling books on the pulpit.
00:53:40Because they.
00:53:41They've got this.
00:53:42Truth that they've figured out.
00:53:44And.
00:53:45They now want you to buy it.
00:53:47So.
00:53:49It's.
00:53:51Unfortunate.
00:53:51But.
00:53:53It seems to be a trend.
00:53:55Yeah.
00:53:55Yeah.
00:53:56I was kind of turned off by that too.
00:53:58And I have the same problem.
00:54:00With.
00:54:01Jonathan Cahn's books and teaching.
00:54:03Is there's so.
00:54:03Such an emphasis on.
00:54:07Mysterious.
00:54:08Secret stuff.
00:54:10And I.
00:54:11I know that he's using it as.
00:54:13A marketing tool to get.
00:54:15To get more people.
00:54:17Interested in what he has to say to them.
00:54:18And he.
00:54:19And he has some good stuff to say.
00:54:20But the method.
00:54:23Is.
00:54:23It definitely rubs me the wrong way.
00:54:26About.
00:54:27Is.
00:54:28In light of the scripture.
00:54:29In light of the scripture.
00:54:30Is that not what it's doing?
00:54:32It's selling truth.
00:54:34Or a truth.
00:54:35Well.
00:54:35I don't think that's really what this.
00:54:38Proverb is talking about.
00:54:39I think it's saying.
00:54:42Don't exchange it.
00:54:43For something else.
00:54:45So like.
00:54:46You get truth for yourself.
00:54:47And don't give it up.
00:54:48For something that's not true.
00:54:50Instead of like.
00:54:52Selling it to other.
00:54:53Selling the truth to other people.
00:54:54In exchange for gold or silver.
00:54:57It's like.
00:54:59Don't exchange what you know.
00:55:00For something that's a lie.
00:55:02Like.
00:55:02We know.
00:55:03That there are men and women.
00:55:05XX chromosomes.
00:55:06XY chromosomes.
00:55:07Right.
00:55:08And.
00:55:08The world out there.
00:55:09Wants to tell you.
00:55:10That those chromosomes are meaningless.
00:55:12Well.
00:55:12I've got the truth already.
00:55:13If I go and exchange it.
00:55:15For their lie.
00:55:16I have lost.
00:55:18You know.
00:55:18My balance sheets have dropped.
00:55:19Across the board.
00:55:21And I think that's really.
00:55:22What this is talking about.
00:55:24Gotcha.
00:55:26Now.
00:55:27I think.
00:55:27I think your point is right.
00:55:29That.
00:55:30You know.
00:55:30There's a.
00:55:30There's a time and place.
00:55:32To sell information.
00:55:34And.
00:55:34I think that.
00:55:36You know.
00:55:37I've tried to.
00:55:39I'm trying to figure out.
00:55:40Where that line is myself.
00:55:41Because I've got.
00:55:42The premium membership.
00:55:43At Common Sense Bible Study.
00:55:44Where.
00:55:45You know.
00:55:45I've got the chiasm course.
00:55:46And a Sabbath to Yahweh.
00:55:49And.
00:55:49I'm charging people.
00:55:50For access to those.
00:55:52But.
00:55:53I don't feel comfortable.
00:55:55In.
00:55:56Charging.
00:55:56For everything.
00:55:58You know.
00:55:58My original plan was.
00:56:00Because I want people.
00:56:01To value.
00:56:02What I'm giving them.
00:56:03I'm going to charge.
00:56:04For access.
00:56:04To the whole community.
00:56:07But there's just.
00:56:08Wasn't enough interest.
00:56:09For one thing.
00:56:10And it always.
00:56:10Just rubbed me the wrong way.
00:56:12I was never comfortable.
00:56:13With it.
00:56:14And so.
00:56:15You know.
00:56:15I'm kind of straddling that fence.
00:56:17Where.
00:56:17You know.
00:56:18I've got.
00:56:18The vast majority.
00:56:19Of the content.
00:56:20Is available for free.
00:56:21To anybody who wants to come in.
00:56:23As long as they behave themselves.
00:56:25And.
00:56:25Then I've got this core.
00:56:27Of stuff.
00:56:27That I've worked harder on.
00:56:28Personally.
00:56:29But.
00:56:30You know.
00:56:30It's.
00:56:32It's not verse by verse.
00:56:33Exposition of the scriptures.
00:56:35And what I'm actually selling.
00:56:36Is the labor.
00:56:37That went into.
00:56:39Producing that content.
00:56:40And putting it into the format.
00:56:42To help people learn it.
00:56:43Well.
00:56:45Your approach.
00:56:46Your approach.
00:56:47As I see it.
00:56:48Is.
00:56:50You have your.
00:56:51Your life.
00:56:52You are working.
00:56:53You are.
00:56:54On the side.
00:56:55This is your.
00:56:57Your passion.
00:56:58And.
00:57:00I've seen.
00:57:01Over and over again.
00:57:02You delve into.
00:57:03Your passion.
00:57:04And try to.
00:57:05Explain.
00:57:07Revelations.
00:57:08That are.
00:57:08Are coming.
00:57:09Forth.
00:57:10Whereas.
00:57:11There.
00:57:11Whole.
00:57:12Business.
00:57:13Component.
00:57:14Of.
00:57:15People.
00:57:16That are.
00:57:18They have something.
00:57:19To say.
00:57:20Okay.
00:57:20They say it.
00:57:22And.
00:57:23They.
00:57:23Feel that.
00:57:24That's their application.
00:57:25So they now need to.
00:57:27Have something new.
00:57:28To say.
00:57:29And maybe.
00:57:30I always.
00:57:30Telling them.
00:57:31Say this.
00:57:31Over and over.
00:57:32But.
00:57:32You know.
00:57:32At some point.
00:57:34I would think.
00:57:35You are simply.
00:57:37Producing.
00:57:39Because.
00:57:40That's what you've.
00:57:40Become known for.
00:57:42So you're not.
00:57:42Necessarily.
00:57:43Producing.
00:57:45Wisdom.
00:57:45You're just producing.
00:57:46For the sake of.
00:57:47Production.
00:57:48You know.
00:57:48I mean.
00:57:49How.
00:57:49Do you have some sort of.
00:57:51Massive revelation.
00:57:52That.
00:57:52You need to.
00:57:55Spit out there.
00:57:56For people to ponder.
00:57:58I would think that.
00:58:00Yeah.
00:58:00You're going to get it.
00:58:01Lightning in a bottle.
00:58:02A few times.
00:58:03But.
00:58:04You're going to get it.
00:58:05Every time.
00:58:05And you're seeing these.
00:58:06Authors out there.
00:58:07That are on book number.
00:58:0810 or 12.
00:58:09Or whatever.
00:58:11And.
00:58:12You know.
00:58:13I'm just looking at them.
00:58:14Saying.
00:58:14Okay.
00:58:16You're a writer.
00:58:17So you're just writing.
00:58:19Mm-hmm.
00:58:20Oh.
00:58:20I'm cynical.
00:58:24There is plenty.
00:58:25In this world.
00:58:25To be cynical about.
00:58:27Yeah.
00:58:28I mean.
00:58:28Miles.
00:58:29Monroe.
00:58:30I like.
00:58:31His.
00:58:32The.
00:58:33The.
00:58:33When he first came out.
00:58:34With the kingdom stuff.
00:58:34I thought that was very interesting.
00:58:37But.
00:58:38Whatever.
00:58:39On the same.
00:58:40Topic.
00:58:41Was like.
00:58:41Oh.
00:58:41You're kind of beating.
00:58:42A dead horse here.
00:58:43You know.
00:58:44I'd say.
00:58:45Jonathan Cahn.
00:58:46Brevere.
00:58:47You know.
00:58:48I've seen a few people.
00:58:49That have.
00:58:49Look.
00:58:51I got.
00:58:51Yeah.
00:58:52You don't have something to say.
00:58:54To every.
00:58:55Every topic.
00:58:56I'm sorry.
00:58:56But.
00:58:57I just don't.
00:58:58Give anybody that.
00:59:00That wisdom.
00:59:01You know.
00:59:02Yeah.
00:59:03I just had to look up.
00:59:03Miles Monroe.
00:59:04Wasn't sure who that was.
00:59:06Oh.
00:59:06He's passed.
00:59:07But.
00:59:08He had a.
00:59:08Number of books.
00:59:09On.
00:59:10On the kingdom.
00:59:11And.
00:59:13There were.
00:59:14He's got a bunch of them.
00:59:16Yeah.
00:59:16They were unique to me.
00:59:17To start.
00:59:18But then you start seeing.
00:59:19A number of other.
00:59:21Iterations of that.
00:59:22Or.
00:59:23You know.
00:59:23Using that same approach.
00:59:24And.
00:59:25Jonathan Cahn.
00:59:25Would be a great example.
00:59:26Of that as well.
00:59:27I'm not trying to.
00:59:28It's a Jonathan Cahn.
00:59:29Batching.
00:59:30I'm just using these.
00:59:31As examples.
00:59:32So there's a people.
00:59:32That come to mind.
00:59:34Seems.
00:59:35He had a book.
00:59:36Called unfit for purpose.
00:59:37Seems.
00:59:38I heard that one.
00:59:38Mentioned somewhere recently.
00:59:41Who had a book.
00:59:42What the context is.
00:59:43Miles Monroe.
00:59:45Oh.
00:59:45Okay.
00:59:45A.
00:59:48Intriguing title.
00:59:51Yeah.
00:59:52Yeah.
00:59:53Anyways.
00:59:53Back to Proverbs.
00:59:55Yeah.
00:59:56I don't know if we really have time.
00:59:58To go through all of this.
00:59:59I mean.
00:59:59It's 820 now.
01:00:01But most of the rest of this.
01:00:02Is really about.
01:00:04You know.
01:00:05Giving in to.
01:00:07Physical urges.
01:00:09Gluttony.
01:00:09And drunk.
01:00:10Drunkenness.
01:00:12This last bit here.
01:00:13You know.
01:00:14They struck me.
01:00:15But I was not hurt.
01:00:15They beat me.
01:00:16But I did not feel it.
01:00:17When shall I awake?
01:00:18I must have another drink.
01:00:19That almost sounds like.
01:00:21It's a good thing.
01:00:22Hey.
01:00:22I can get beat up.
01:00:23And not feel it.
01:00:25But then if you take this.
01:00:26In the context of.
01:00:28The father disciplining his son.
01:00:29You know.
01:00:30If you strike him.
01:00:31It's because you love him.
01:00:33And you're trying to teach him something.
01:00:35But if someone.
01:00:36Keeps failing to learn.
01:00:37The lessons of life.
01:00:38Because they're inebriated.
01:00:41Then.
01:00:42Life is going to keep beating them.
01:00:44Trying to teach them.
01:00:45And they're never going to learn.
01:00:47Saw on Facebook today.
01:00:49It was sad as could be.
01:00:50It was a.
01:00:52You there?
01:00:54Yep.
01:00:55That was you?
01:00:56Okay.
01:00:57Yeah.
01:00:57Saw on Facebook today.
01:00:58It was a.
01:00:59It was a sad.
01:01:01Depiction.
01:01:02It was a.
01:01:03Police officer.
01:01:05A chief.
01:01:07And he was being interrogated.
01:01:10And he was in.
01:01:12Hospital garb.
01:01:14And you're listening to this.
01:01:15You know.
01:01:16Where is this going?
01:01:16And then you realize.
01:01:19That.
01:01:20He was being interrogated.
01:01:22Because.
01:01:24He was.
01:01:25In a room with.
01:01:26A.
01:01:26Fellow police officer.
01:01:28They were there in a room.
01:01:30On the way back.
01:01:31From some event.
01:01:32And.
01:01:33He was.
01:01:33Being that officer to death.
01:01:35And you're listening to them talk.
01:01:39And you realize.
01:01:40If this was legitimate.
01:01:42He certainly came across that way.
01:01:44What did I do?
01:01:46I'm here.
01:01:46Because I presume something bad happened.
01:01:49Where is lucky?
01:01:50Lucky is the other fellow that.
01:01:51That was.
01:01:53That died.
01:01:55And.
01:01:55You surmise.
01:01:58That he blacked out.
01:01:59From drinking.
01:02:02And there are.
01:02:03Questions of.
01:02:03Are you an angry drunk?
01:02:05You know.
01:02:05That type of thing.
01:02:07So.
01:02:08Obviously.
01:02:08There are.
01:02:10Through drink.
01:02:13Through.
01:02:15Those.
01:02:16Gateways that.
01:02:17Open up.
01:02:19There are.
01:02:20Evils that can't happen.
01:02:23Whether it's you.
01:02:25Or demonic.
01:02:27Or a lack of control.
01:02:28On your part.
01:02:29Or rage.
01:02:30Or.
01:02:30Whatever that spirit is.
01:02:32That.
01:02:32That.
01:02:33That emotes.
01:02:36There's some people.
01:02:37That can't handle it.
01:02:38There's some people that.
01:02:40Are.
01:02:41I mean.
01:02:42I.
01:02:42I have personally seen it myself.
01:02:46With an individual that.
01:02:48It was.
01:02:48One of the saddest things.
01:02:49I ever saw.
01:02:51This individual.
01:02:52Over drank.
01:02:53And.
01:02:54He became a very different person.
01:02:55And he wanted to go.
01:02:57Beat up some colleagues of mine at work.
01:03:00And I'm just like.
01:03:01Oh my God.
01:03:02I.
01:03:02I had to.
01:03:03Walk him back to his hotel room.
01:03:05Because he was.
01:03:06So over the.
01:03:07Over the top.
01:03:09And.
01:03:09You just realize.
01:03:10That's.
01:03:11That's the alcohol.
01:03:12Talking.
01:03:12I mean.
01:03:12That's the way of saying it.
01:03:13But it's not.
01:03:14That's.
01:03:14Whatever it is within you.
01:03:17That.
01:03:17You've opened the gate to.
01:03:19And.
01:03:19You've no longer.
01:03:20You've lost self-control.
01:03:23There is a.
01:03:24Whether it's a drug.
01:03:26Or.
01:03:26Alcohol.
01:03:28There is a.
01:03:29An admonition of.
01:03:32Losing control.
01:03:34That can be dangerous.
01:03:37You know.
01:03:37That's what this is.
01:03:38Well.
01:03:38You can't feel it.
01:03:39And beat me.
01:03:40Like.
01:03:40I can't feel it.
01:03:41I want another drink.
01:03:42I know it's a little gory.
01:03:45And.
01:03:46That I'm bringing this up.
01:03:47But I.
01:03:47I think it's on point.
01:03:48With what.
01:03:49The scripture is saying.
01:03:51Saying.
01:03:51Be careful.
01:03:52Because this.
01:03:53This can be.
01:03:54A.
01:03:55A very dangerous.
01:03:58Thing that you're opening up.
01:04:00Yeah.
01:04:00And what that thing is.
01:04:01I don't know.
01:04:01If it's you.
01:04:02Or demonic.
01:04:03Probably both.
01:04:03If you're lowering your inhibitions.
01:04:08Then.
01:04:09You are more susceptible to temptations.
01:04:11And.
01:04:11Where do temptations come from?
01:04:14So.
01:04:15You got some.
01:04:16Some.
01:04:17Evil spirit.
01:04:18Whispering in your ear.
01:04:19Saying.
01:04:20Hey.
01:04:21That guy said something bad.
01:04:22Or.
01:04:24Blowing insults.
01:04:25Way out of proportion.
01:04:26Or whatever it is.
01:04:26That kind of stuff happens.
01:04:28It's much more likely to happen.
01:04:30When your judgment is impaired.
01:04:32What I saw with his co-worker.
01:04:36Before he.
01:04:37He ramped up to the point of wanting to go fight other co-workers.
01:04:42I saw him.
01:04:43Struggling with father issues.
01:04:45He was.
01:04:46All of a sudden.
01:04:47Lamenting upon.
01:04:48His.
01:04:49And that's interesting.
01:04:49Because we're talking about that.
01:04:51In this.
01:04:52This context as well.
01:04:54He suddenly was.
01:04:56Was just absorbed with.
01:04:58His poor relationship with his father.
01:05:00And you know.
01:05:02I.
01:05:03I don't think he was going to.
01:05:04He was looking to fight another person.
01:05:06I think he was looking to fight his father.
01:05:08It just happened to be in the guise of this.
01:05:10Other person.
01:05:12Yeah.
01:05:13It was.
01:05:14And ironically.
01:05:16Ten years later.
01:05:18I'll say ten years later.
01:05:19It was this last.
01:05:20January.
01:05:21I'm at work with a.
01:05:23Another co-worker.
01:05:24And.
01:05:25This individual.
01:05:27Was known.
01:05:28To my.
01:05:29This person.
01:05:30This co-worker.
01:05:31I'm talking with.
01:05:32And.
01:05:33These same issues.
01:05:34Had manifested with other people.
01:05:37So.
01:05:39They don't go away.
01:05:40If you don't.
01:05:41Deal with them.
01:05:42You know.
01:05:43Even if you've dealt with them.
01:05:47You start drinking.
01:05:48And.
01:05:49You can.
01:05:50Revisit those things.
01:05:53Yeah.
01:05:53Yeah.
01:05:54And that's it.
01:05:54And if you go back to verse.
01:05:57Verse 20.
01:05:58Be not among drunkards.
01:06:00This is sort of fleshing out.
01:06:01What being amongst drunk.
01:06:02Amongst drunkards.
01:06:04Can look like.
01:06:06You know.
01:06:06You're.
01:06:07You're.
01:06:07Amongst people that.
01:06:10Are having.
01:06:12Are dealing with issues.
01:06:14Maybe not in the best of.
01:06:15Fashion.
01:06:17Yeah.
01:06:17And if.
01:06:18If.
01:06:19You know.
01:06:19When.
01:06:20If you're drunk.
01:06:20And you are having trouble.
01:06:22You know.
01:06:22With good judgment.
01:06:24Well.
01:06:24If the guy next to you is drunk.
01:06:25And he's also having trouble.
01:06:27With good judgment.
01:06:30You're.
01:06:31You're not helping each other.
01:06:34There's a synergy.
01:06:34It's going to be compounding the problem.
01:06:36Yeah.
01:06:37Yes.
01:06:37It's synergy.
01:06:38It really is.
01:06:39It builds it up more.
01:06:41Yeah.
01:06:43All right.
01:06:43Well.
01:06:43I kind of skipped down to the end of the chapter there.
01:06:45But.
01:06:46Your eyes will see strange things.
01:06:48Yeah.
01:06:48Your eyes will see strange things.
01:06:50Your heart.
01:06:50Will utter perverse things.
01:06:52That's what it's.
01:06:53It's talking about.
01:06:54That's what you're going to see.
01:06:55Among those.
01:06:56Yeah.
01:06:56You will see strange.
01:06:57Things.
01:06:59Yeah.
01:07:00Well.
01:07:00It warps your perspective of.
01:07:02Everything.
01:07:03It warps the way you see.
01:07:04See and hear things.
01:07:05And it warps the way you think about them inside.
01:07:08So.
01:07:09I mean.
01:07:10There's the.
01:07:10You know.
01:07:12The classic cartoon thing.
01:07:13Of pink elephants.
01:07:15I've never known anybody.
01:07:16Who actually hallucinated.
01:07:18With just alcohol.
01:07:19But.
01:07:20You might as well be hallucinating.
01:07:22When it distorts your perception.
01:07:23So much.
01:07:25Right.
01:07:25And of course.
01:07:27There are other substances.
01:07:28That definitely can cause hallucinations.
01:07:31And I suppose that.
01:07:32Depending on how your alcohol was brewed.
01:07:35You know.
01:07:35The cleanliness of.
01:07:37The materials.
01:07:38And.
01:07:38Things that might be added to it.
01:07:40That can certainly cause you problems too.
01:07:43There are certain people.
01:07:44That cannot drink.
01:07:45Certain alcohol.
01:07:47Some.
01:07:48Can't drink gin.
01:07:49Or.
01:07:49Tequila.
01:07:50Or whatever.
01:07:50Because their body has a certain.
01:07:53Type of response to that.
01:07:56Particular brew.
01:07:57Which is.
01:07:57Interesting.
01:07:59For me.
01:08:00Alcohol.
01:08:01Makes me obsess.
01:08:03And that's not a good thing for me.
01:08:05I got enough.
01:08:07That I can obsess about.
01:08:08That.
01:08:10When you're obsessing.
01:08:11You're just focusing.
01:08:12It's a gong.
01:08:13It's.
01:08:14Over and over.
01:08:14And over again.
01:08:16And.
01:08:17That just highlights the problem.
01:08:20Whereas you want to.
01:08:20You want to.
01:08:21You want to have solution.
01:08:23You don't want to be.
01:08:25Just stuck.
01:08:27I think I've said this before.
01:08:28My.
01:08:28One of my biggest fears.
01:08:31Is.
01:08:32I had a.
01:08:35Cousin.
01:08:36That had a stroke.
01:08:38And all that she could say was.
01:08:40No.
01:08:41No.
01:08:42No.
01:08:42No.
01:08:42No.
01:08:42No.
01:08:43Her husband understood her.
01:08:44I don't know how.
01:08:46He understood what she was saying.
01:08:47And.
01:08:48She responded.
01:08:49But.
01:08:49I would hate to have.
01:08:53Myself.
01:08:53Get locked.
01:08:54Into a negative.
01:08:57Mindset.
01:08:59And.
01:09:01Alcohol.
01:09:02Or substance.
01:09:03Certainly could.
01:09:05Be a means to that end.
01:09:07At least for a period of time.
01:09:08I see it.
01:09:10Yeah.
01:09:12Yeah.
01:09:12There are.
01:09:14There is a place for alcohol in the world.
01:09:16But.
01:09:18It is an easy thing to.
01:09:19Misuse.
01:09:21All right.
01:09:22Well.
01:09:23It's been a good conversation.
01:09:25Yep.
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