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00:00Dear followers of the International Agricultural Cities Association, I wish you all greetings.
00:07We are here with the Egrisities Academic program.
00:09Today, we are first with our teacher Metin Turan, Professor Dr. Metin Turan.
00:15There have been serious studies and correspondence on this subject, especially in the academic community, about urban agriculture and agriculture in the city recently.
00:26But it is not widely used in Türkiye at the moment.
00:29What is urban agriculture and vertical agriculture?
00:32Starting from here, we give the necessary information from our teacher.
00:35Teacher, welcome here, teacher.
00:37Good day, thank you. We found it nice.
00:42Professor, how can we generally describe vertical agriculture within the scope of urban agriculture?
00:50Now, when it comes to urban agriculture, of course, this has become an important trend in the world.
00:54Approximately 85 million people worldwide engage in urban agriculture.
01:00In this regard, we opened a department at Yenitep University, the department of profit trading and management, and I am the one teaching this course directly in this department.
01:13The main purpose of this is that municipalities, especially me as AgriSitiz, would like to thank you.
01:18I do not attend meetings in the union of municipalities either.
01:21I always try to give as much support as possible.
01:24Municipalities are extremely important to us here.
01:27Municipalities are extremely important to us, especially in the urbanization of the city and the formation of smart cities.
01:36Today, agricultural projects are being continued with the institutional structure prepared by municipalities in Türkiye.
01:44What we really want in Türkiye is cooperatives.
01:47Because we have not been able to achieve this, as an academic, I attach great importance to municipalities.
01:52As the patron of the city, the planning and programming of this work begins here.
01:57While urban agriculture is now underway in the world, the main thing is smart cities.
02:04While thinking about places, areas and living comforts where the city can breathe in smart cities,
02:09Preventing heat loss in shelters, collecting water such as rain harvesting,
02:16Many factors such as the creation of drainage are considered functional
02:20Your bar is also extremely important.
02:22This has become increasingly important in the world since the past and is a sign of urban agriculture.
02:27Our perception should be more geared towards technology in today's conditions.
02:32So even the production we do in greenhouses, which we call greenhouses today,
02:36It cannot meet our needs due to current global climate change.
02:41Therefore, in urban agriculture, less land, less water, less input
02:48and models that do not use pesticides provide shelf life to people living there and in a short time
02:57to provide products with lower input.
02:59We have been working on this issue for about 7-8 years, but as you stated
03:06The main reasons why the norm has not been established until now are the initial input costs.
03:12was high, and here the biggest factor is the energy factor.
03:16Today, as Yeditepe University, we have put forward this module together with IKSAC and
03:21We grow approximately 10 thousand plants in an area of 30 square meters and approximately
03:25It comes to harvest in 21 days.
03:27What comes to people's minds here is, can the teacher keep up with everything?
03:31Yes, it can grow on anything, but this group of vegetables that we call leafy vegetables today
03:36where both sensitive and pesticides are used the most, are used intensively and are used in direct consumption
03:43It is a group that causes the most harm to people because it is also.
03:46For example, right now in Türkiye, I say we are proud in our meetings in our big cities.
03:50It supports many different plans, programs and many different projects.
03:55In other words, today the municipalities are doing what the Provincial Directorate of Agriculture cannot do.
03:58I even receive serious criticism about this, but I don't listen.
04:01Because the municipalities are confident that the city is behind this work only by providing fertilizer to the producer,
04:09It is not just about giving seedlings, but also supporting all the processes of marketing and sustaining the plant.
04:14The same thing needs to happen in urban agriculture and today under AgriSities,
04:21We can proudly say that within this group chaired by our Konya Municipality,
04:26Every municipality should get involved in this business step by step and what we do in vertical farming is this,
04:33an environment where plants are introduced by simulating the sun and its environment.
04:40It could be a completely enclosed environment, a parking lot, a closed area, underground, the location is not important to us.
04:47We can easily grow any plant we want for 12 months, and as you know, making a raft of these is very expensive.
04:54But we took Istanbul as our base for our first outing here.
05:00Because there is a vegetable consumption of approximately 8 million tons in Istanbul.
05:05Approximately 500 thousand tons of this comes directly from greenery.
05:09And when we take these into account, we can see that a crop can be grown in approximately 21 days.
05:15It is very important to be able to provide sustainable products for 12 months without using any testicles, without any waste rate.
05:26As you know, due to global climate change, it is starting to happen in Adana, Mersin, Hatay right now.
05:33Then it comes from the Aegean and Central Anatolia to Bursa and the season ends and starts again.
05:37Here, besides the high production costs and input costs, the thing that bothers us the most is the use of testicles for health reasons.
05:47The second thing is, you know, when you take into account the carbon footprint and the water footprint in the world.
05:52The most important parameter is to reduce your carbon footprint and water footprint.
05:56So, the cost of a lettuce to come from Antalya to Istanbul is currently 13-15 TL, just the transportation cost.
06:02Therefore, we are in the city, especially in these big cities.
06:07if we can provide such products that people need
06:11One place was grain, another place was products, of course they should be produced in their respective regions.
06:15and should be formed by the transportation of products obtained from there.
06:18But I am submitting this request from very esteemed mayors.
06:22So, we do our best in this regard without any expectations.
06:25Each city must enter this structure step by step.
06:29Now you might want to pay attention to the costs.
06:32The bigger thing than costs was energy.
06:34Energy had a very serious negative impact on the formation of this work in the beginning.
06:42But today solar panels and after solar panels
06:46The development of other approaches to energy has now significantly reduced costs.
06:52It can be recycled within approximately 1-1.5 years.
06:55What I want to express here is that we need at least 600-700 square meters.
07:06I mean that in the optimum sense.
07:08Here you go.
07:08When your voice is finished and completed, the cost is...
07:12Let me repeat it again.
07:12The biggest cost was energy.
07:16Does the sea amortize itself in two years?
07:17Am I wrong?
07:18One, one, one year, two years.
07:21One year or two years depending on the two you choose.
07:23It takes at most two periods.
07:25We already...
07:26Then, that is, at that time, something very messy can be done.
07:30So normally even a commercial enterprise will be a bit more expensive after 4-5 years when we calculate its costs.
07:37The weather may pass, but if it is one or two years, then it is a very good and very economical thing.
07:43Now, I have met with many of our investors, but when we spoke, people saw something they had not seen,
07:49It's a problem when they don't see something going on.
07:51For example, what are the things that currently have a Michelin Star as a university?
08:00We will now start promotions with these chefs.
08:03They already have a gastronomy department, as do we.
08:06Apart from that, there are groups like Migros and Makro.
08:09It attracts their attention because you are providing a sustainable product.
08:12Think about Istanbul.
08:13In Istanbul, especially catering companies want to buy the same product at the same quality on certain days of the year.
08:19For example, they are trying to achieve something they can achieve by traveling all over Türkiye, under the structure.
08:25Now, if you think about the municipalities, when the municipalities are involved in such practices as the municipality,
08:33they are recycled within a year.
08:35There will be no problem with sales in order to become our city.
08:40The real problem here, the real problem here is what we will produce and for whom.
08:47This was decided after the agreement was made and agreed upon at the beginning.
08:51There are big time things, groups.
08:54Every city has these dynamics and they want you.
08:56Apart from that, there are catering companies and restaurants.
09:00There are even providers for large businesses.
09:05These are all ready for negotiation.
09:08Because the quality of the product is the same, the standard is the same, it does not come with a test and there is no need to travel all over Türkiye.
09:15Product cost is low.
09:15Plus, the soul of the shelf.
09:17For example, the time it takes for a product to come to Istanbul and then reach a table in a home is 15-20 days.
09:23You buy it fresh here, we keep it on your table for one day and your cupboard for 15 days.
09:28He has nothing.
09:30I think this is the strongest aspect of plant farming, if it can be explained by academics,
09:35There is no drug residue on television or in the press.
09:40However, if it is explained that this is healthy, it will be something to be appreciated.
09:44How should this be done?
09:46This needs to be explained well.
09:48In my opinion, if the focus is on the fact that health is better than deficit, I think it will find a better response.
09:54I think, let me put it this way, you have expressed a very good question.
09:58Firstly, 10 thousand plants in the field, 30 thousand plants in the greenhouse, 1 million plants here at the same time.
10:06One in 70 days, one in 50 days, here in 21 days.
10:09Thirdly, and most importantly, since we are simulating the sun, solar intensity provides the taste and aroma that is of most concern.
10:17For example, in our environment, blue light enables the development of the vegetative parts of the plant, that is, the development of leaves and branches.
10:24Yellow and green light ensures fruit formation.
10:28Purple light provides taste and aroma.
10:30Because you simulate all of these in that environment,
10:34For example, the most common question I heard was,
10:36when I taste it they see that it is better to be no difference.
10:40For example, when we say geographically diverse plants,
10:42The main thing there is to extend that area so that the purple light receives very evenly in that area.
10:49So for us, as you said,
10:52does not contain pesticides,
10:54you have a disease,
10:56obtaining more effective positions per unit area,
10:58I think shoes are one of the most important beauties.
11:01They are given medication to each other.
11:04Because, well, engineers can also listen to this program,
11:09among the listeners, among the viewers,
11:12Why isn't medication used?
11:13Because there is no fight against foreign arrows.
11:15There is no fight against foreign arrows,
11:16because he understands, there is no plus harmful.
11:19So, because he understands that there is harm that will harm those two,
11:22Absolutely no medication is used.
11:23In this sense, vertical history is really very important.
11:29So the biggest problem right now is,
11:31Of course there is a terminal crisis,
11:32water is limited.
11:33But I think this is something more important.
11:36Definitely.
11:37Absolutely, this particular one,
11:39As you know, Konya is the agricultural hub of Türkiye,
11:42so there the other parla is finished,
11:44while being raised,
11:45It is forced to produce with this
11:47and is also experiencing serious problems.
11:49Their segment will change and therefore
11:51with low input in agriculture,
11:53We will obtain quality, healthy products.
11:55This municipality also,
11:57both producers and consumers,
11:59something that everyone will like much more.
12:01We keep it secret,
12:03Our problem is clear,
12:03We need to leave the solutions together.
12:05Therefore, municipalities,
12:07I think the city is safe,
12:08extremely important.
12:09So, it is not just the building or maintenance of the city,
12:12I also think that we need this kind of support.
12:15Look, 85 million people in the world are known
12:17and the number of people living in cities is 65% in the world.
12:21You know, we're doing something like this,
12:23We are trying to encourage people to live in villages, but they don't.
12:26The new generation has no chance of going there.
12:29You can also get the new generation to work with such agricultural models.
12:32For example, all of my students are now
12:33He got a job as soon as he graduated.
12:36From where?
12:36Because he deals with technology.
12:37So we already have a manufacturer.
12:40The real problem of our Türkiye is,
12:41planning this,
12:42created a value chain,
12:43There is a program for selling.
12:45Therefore, we can easily create in this value chain.
12:49You will receive God's healthy produce,
12:50The seller will at least buy a known product.
12:53For example, it produces the product,
12:53You leave 70% because it rained,
12:56Hail struck unexpectedly,
12:58the temperature dropped,
12:59the temperature rose,
13:00came harmful,
13:01like applying pesticides
13:02is losing a lot of problems.
13:03But if I have 10 thousand plants here right now,
13:06in my cage at university,
13:09We can easily harvest 10 thousand and give their numbers.
13:13I also made such a call to your esteemed presidents at the university,
13:15You also received my call.
13:17Give your name,
13:17give it to you.
13:19In the sense required from you,
13:20In this sense, they may resign with your experience.
13:22So, Turkish agriculture,
13:23what knot,
13:24how is it,
13:24how to shut up,
13:26in this sense, I would like to ask you in detail
13:27I say they can get information.
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