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00:00All right, it's time to get Tyree's takes on the storylines that are coming out of the Giants Monday Night Football loss to the Patriots.
00:11We got David Tyree, Super Bowl champ and Patriots slayer in the building.
00:16You know what? Before we start off, DT, I'm blaming you for what happened last night.
00:21You wanted to do the helmet catch. You wanted to have one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl history.
00:26They were like, OK, we know we know that he's going to be on on Monday.
00:30Let's see what you got to say today, man. Like, I don't know what was going on with that loss last night, DT.
00:35Well, things started off real good. You know, my man Eli was on there on the pregame and, you know,
00:41reminiscing of the helmet catch and I'm feeling all the vibes of possibilities in Gillette.
00:46And honestly, it went the crap real quick. It was the wheel of misfortune.
00:50It was the absolute wheel of misfortune. You turn this wheel each and every week
00:55and the Giants are finding a new peculiar way to let you down.
01:00Whether it's whether it's our special teams throughout. And obviously, you know,
01:03my heart is always going to be tied to the special teams. That's what gave me a job in the NFL.
01:08I mean, public turf, kick return for touchdown.
01:11You know, our kicker kicks into the dirt after a tough year. You know, we feel like we're finally re-stabilizing the position.
01:20It is just manure out there in Foxboro. I'm trying to find something encouragement, B-Lun. Hit me back.
01:29I have nothing, man. I mean, especially when going into this game, I think it was Patriots minus seven and a half.
01:37And everybody, I'm talking all my trash to all the Patriots fans. You know, I went to UMass, so I'm talking junk to them.
01:45I'm like, man, we're going to forget the points. The Giants can beat them straight up.
01:50I didn't answer my text last night, man. I didn't answer that one text last night or today.
01:54Everybody leave me alone. I'm at work right now. But let's start about, obviously, something that is becoming a bigger problem each week.
02:03Fans are falling in love with Jackson Dart, his style, his aura of the riz of what kids call it.
02:09But this dude is still not sliding, and he is running reckless out there, DT.
02:15Is it, like, at this point, do you bench him to keep him healthy for the offseason?
02:23You know, the fact that you actually, you know, it's not just the reckless bravado that Jackson Dart plays with.
02:30It's the unwillingness to back down and show some attributes of learning.
02:35Meaning, like, and, you know, this goes back to his John Gruden interview through the quarterback camp.
02:41And it doesn't appear that anything that he's saying is actually getting through to him.
02:47And that is where we're going to be paying attention through to the end of the season.
02:52And hopefully, obviously, we're talking about, we're over here hoping this guy makes it to the end of the season.
02:56You talk about these shots accumulate. This is the sport of football.
03:00They say that the average hit in the NFL is like being in a car crash.
03:03Well, you need to understand that you're not made like a 76, 77 Lincoln Continental.
03:10You're kind of, as a quarterback position, you're made a little bit more like the Honda Civic.
03:16You know, I'm just talking about when it comes to the nature of these hits that you're taking.
03:20You're not built like the offensive lineman who's colliding.
03:23So this is really where we have to have a temperature check.
03:26And where the NFL, we talk about not for long.
03:28It's because when we add compounding decisions, RG3, we have these kinds of instances where we saw talented quarterbacks who weren't self-aware enough,
03:39had the football IQ to understand, not just when they get down, to understand that they're no longer in college.
03:45They're in the National Football League where men are paying mortgages and they're trying to take you out.
03:49And shout out to the Honda Civics out there, just in case.
03:54Honda, just in case you want to sponsor this segment, he was just using this as a reference.
03:59A lot of my Ubers are Hondas, so I get to and from safely.
04:03But you've been involved with the player personnel side of things.
04:07You've been around NFL head coaches.
04:09You've been in the building.
04:11I imagine they've had the talk with the kid before.
04:15Now what?
04:17Because when he's saying things like, this ain't soccer.
04:20You know, this is football.
04:21There's one thing not sliding for a third and three.
04:24You've got to get that first down.
04:26But when you're tiptoeing the sideline and you're just not going to get out of bat,
04:31like, why take that hit?
04:34Why put that hit on the body?
04:35It's not getting to the kid.
04:37So, I mean, what's the conversation that really has to happen with this kid for it really to hit and land for him to slide?
04:47Get out of bounds.
04:47Don't put these hits on your body.
04:50Well, there's not too many ways to, you know, when you start talking about the modern-day athlete,
04:54the game is the field.
04:56The inability to play the game is really the greatest deterrent.
05:01So, you know, is Jackson Dart going to have to be pulled into that position?
05:05It's possible because at the end of the day, this was a trial experiment primarily for Brian D'Abel to keep his job.
05:12You know, Brian, we weren't supposed to be seeing Jackson Dart, remember?
05:16But now, the kid's out there.
05:18He's a formidable.
05:20I mean, he's highly efficient.
05:22Obviously, he is dangerous with defeat.
05:23Let's just talk about all the positives.
05:25I really love him as he's an efficient passer when he's able to function and kind of move coherently.
05:32It's just when he tucks that ball to run, we're in the danger zone and we're biting our teeth.
05:36So, what the conversation looks like is the same conversation.
05:40If we're going to have you to be the quarterback in the face of this franchise,
05:46we might actually have to save this kid from himself this year.
05:49And that actually might teach him the lesson of what it is to be a grown, mature quarterback in a national football league
05:55because availability is the best ability and at this rate of mindset, we're not going to have you available for long.
06:02Yeah.
06:03It's like, you know, I'm a parent now.
06:05You know, I got a two-and-a-half-year-old.
06:06It's almost like looking at my kid playing over there with the rough big kids and I'm like,
06:12hey, come on over here and play on these monkey bars all by yourself, man.
06:15Like, they're too rough over there.
06:16And there's, go ahead, go ahead.
06:18Watch Uncle Jameis do it.
06:19Like, you know what I mean?
06:21Watch Uncle Jameis for a few more weeks and maybe you'll understand professionalism.
06:26It's not really an issue of toughness.
06:30I think, you know, Jameis went out there and made some tough plays.
06:33And I think this is something that Mike is going to have to look at within the next week or two
06:37because it's not – this wasn't supposed to be.
06:40We weren't supposed to be looking at Jackson Dart and week four.
06:43And so, you know, you got Russell Wilson.
06:48You got, you know, Jameis Winston.
06:50And we're expecting to have a formidable football team.
06:53Things go to crap.
06:54Let's finish this thing out well for the entire team and the entire roster.
06:59And also, still, you have enough offensive output to be able to score and function.
07:04We've showed that in the last two weeks.
07:05And that wasn't it last night.
07:07All right, let's flip it to another storyline, another first-round draft pick.
07:11Third overall pick, Abdul Carter.
07:14The guy that asked to unretire Lawrence Taylor's number was benched again for allegedly missing a meeting
07:21or being late to a meeting.
07:23This kid, he goes on Twitter.
07:25He's going back and forth with the reports.
07:29Question here.
07:31Is it – can you just chalk it up as, all right, he's young, first year in the league.
07:35He's trying to figure it all out.
07:36It's immaturity or could the lights in New York be a little bright for this kid?
07:43So my answer is yes.
07:45And I think this is one of the things that in New York is easily undermined by personnel.
07:52Meaning you have to have a guy who's just a little bit more mature and stable.
07:58And for me, I think it's more vital when you have these top five picks.
08:02And there's no shade because we're talking about talent here.
08:06And I think some of this has crept into even a Kayvon tip.
08:09But when you talk about top five, what do we – we need you to shift our franchise, right?
08:14That's just my personal opinion, right?
08:16Top five, I need you to impact my franchise.
08:19I might not need you to be the day one starter, change the world guy, Joey Bosa.
08:26But I do need you to impact this year.
08:28And Abdul Carter hasn't given me enough bang for the buck.
08:31And it's clearly because of the maturity level.
08:34I think some of those – some of those characteristics may have crept in on the Kayvon Thibodeau early on.
08:40It's the lights.
08:41It's the branding.
08:42It's the opportunity.
08:43It's the fashion capital.
08:45It's everything.
08:46But at the end of the day, your job is on the field.
08:48And it takes a great amount of maturity to gather all that talent, all that opportunity, and hone in.
08:55And I think Abdul is just showing some of the cracks and the flaws.
08:58How he responds to this moment is actually going to say more to me than the second.
09:02Yeah, I just take it back to 2007.
09:04Aaron Ross, one of the most chill, laid-back first-rounders I ever met in my life.
09:10Never missed a meeting.
09:11Never heard anything that rookie year.
09:13A, Ross, all of us were always on time.
09:16I just – I don't get it.
09:17And people ask me, they're always like, oh, well, what's the leadership like in the locker room?
09:21They're saying, why are Brian Burns or Dexter Lawrence coming and talking to that kid?
09:26Do you feel as though at 2 and 12, ain't nobody trying to hear all that right now.
09:31Do you think that's where they are right now when it comes to listening to their leadership?
09:37Yeah.
09:38You know, I would be surprised if that was the case.
09:41I think people overestimate, you know, professional – I mean, they underestimate professionalism.
09:47And these are like what could be perceived as a slip-up.
09:50But this is actually what you're paid to do, right?
09:53And what could we say now at this position – at this point in the league?
09:58And even if it's said, it won't deter the consequences, right?
10:02Mike Kaft is still going to have to deal with this.
10:04I think he has to deal with this firmly in relation to setting expectations.
10:07And maybe it needs to increase.
10:11And it's not just because of who you are as a talent.
10:14It's because of who we need you to be for this franchise, right?
10:18We actually need you to be a leader because playmakers assume positions of leadership by virtue of the impact they make.
10:25That's what you – that's the kind of weight that you need to put on in Abdul Carter.
10:28And I just don't think he's truly yet at that space to fully understand it.
10:33These guys want to go out there and have fun.
10:35Well, you're not having fun when you lose.
10:37Yeah.
10:38All right, last one.
10:39And I'm going to put these two together here because these are two other storylines that are coming out of this game.
10:45You've fired Brian Dable.
10:46You've fired Shane Bowen.
10:48You've benched Russell Wilson.
10:50Paulson Adebo, a guy that you spent a lot of money on, hasn't kind of lived up to the money that you've given him.
10:55Same thing with Javon Holland.
10:58You've got a third overall pick that's missing meetings, not getting the production of a third overall pick.
11:04A lot of people are saying that falls on GM Joe Shane.
11:08On top of that, after watching the Patriots bring the belt out last night, a lot of people are saying that this is the new rock bottom for the New York football giants.
11:20So, one, does this now, that loss, put Joe Shane in the crosshairs, and is this the new rock bottom for this football team?
11:32You know, rock bottom is, you know, I mean, I think anyone who has real affections and something invested has felt that way for a long time.
11:41Is it a new one?
11:42I think that's hard to say.
11:43What I would say, I think he's earned a fair share of criticism and accountability, and I've always felt this way through the years.
11:50I'm a little bit, I hold out on harsh critique, but there's a lot of players that have not taken leaps, right?
11:58And I just think that's, it does take a little while, but you see great inconsistencies in players that are thrust into position, whether it's Theo Johnson.
12:07What are we doing with the tight end position, how's that, Thomas Fadon as a grab, where's he at now that we're keeping him on the, you know, keeping him on the roster?
12:17The Josh Adizus, the Deontay Banks, the Jalen Highlands, I mean, we've lost some overwhelming draft capital at high level and mid that hasn't, I'm talking about to the Trey Hawkins, who was supposed to be a talent at,
12:31so I think he's earned his fair share of criticism at this point to say, hey man, the hair, the good looks and the hair and the great talk isn't really enough anymore.
12:43Brian Dable has blown up coaching staff, so I think he deserved an early exit, but I think he probably, we should bullseye our GM and have some different demands, maybe questions of accountability.
12:55So I think he's earned that, I wouldn't say it wasn't, it was far-fetched before, but I think we can call some of our personnel into question that shows the cracks when it comes to inconsistency,
13:06and that's whether we thrust them in there, we went from Devin Singletary at the running back position for a few million dollars,
13:13taking Saquon's number to Adrian Tacey to Cam Scadaboo, is one of them really, is one of them a guy?
13:19And I think they're really all talented, but we see great inconsistencies in relation to personnel and how that gets shuffled through from year to year or even moment to moment.
13:28For me, this is rock bottom in terms of the expectations of this team going into this season.
13:33It brings me back to when they had Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard, Odell Beckham Jr., Saquon Barkley as a running back, and Evan Ingram as a tight end,
13:42and we see what happened this season. It takes me back to when Russ was courtside at the Knicks game, autographed the football, threw the moon ball into the stands,
13:54and everyone thought, okay, Russ is here to save the franchise, and now we're here talking about the rookie quarterback not being able to slide,
14:04third overall pick who wanted to unretire, Lawrence Taylor's number, all those storylines in the spring, in the offseason,
14:12that made you feel like, okay, Giants got their swag back. Okay, I'm bringing out the starter jacket, and the Yankees fit it, and the Thames, I feel like a real New Yorker again.
14:24No, we are here right now going into this bye week at 2-12. DT, appreciate you hopping on with us. As always, we're going to get a win.
14:32We're going to do a Tyrese take on a win sooner or later because you've got the Commanders, the Raiders, and the Vikings coming up the next three games.
14:41We're going to get a W. We're going to eat some Ws with Jameis.
14:43That's the 2-10 team in the NFL. We're going to get one.
14:47Let's go. Let's go. We stand by that. Thank you guys for watching Blue Rush.
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