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03:37Welcome to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Bassant.
03:44Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago.
03:47Of course, our international viewers and our brothers and sisters in the Isles of Grenada.
03:51And if you don't know it, you might know it now.
03:53It's 62 days before Christmas, and I'm sure everybody's going to start getting their houses in order.
03:59All right. So today with us is Sergeant Cavell Mills-Walters from the Special Victims Unit.
04:09I want to welcome you, ma'am. And it's Friday. How have you been?
04:13Thank you so much for having me here today. I have been fantastic. It's great to be here.
04:19And welcome, Trinidad and Tobago.
04:21So you are from the Special Victims Unit.
04:23I know there are a couple of things happening within the next month or so
04:26that you're going to be kind of shedding some light on and educating the public
04:31about this important event that is coming up.
04:35Okay, yes. Viewers, we do have a fantastic time coming up next month.
04:41We are observing Domestic Violence Month.
04:45And based on the month that we are celebrating, we are looking at the 16 days of activism.
04:52That's 16 days. We have a themed program on a campaign,
04:58Unite to End Domestic Violence Against All Women and Girls.
05:03We are going to have a fantastic time.
05:05This campaign runs from the 25th of November, 2025 to the 10th of December, 2025.
05:13We're asking the public, come out, support, celebrate with us.
05:17This is an important event. It's going to be fantastic.
05:19It's going to be real good. We're going to empower women.
05:23And this is not only for women and girls, but it's also for the men.
05:28We are asking men, come out, get the information, be empowered, and enjoy with us.
05:34Yes, it's a very important, you know, the 16 days of activism on gender-based violence,
05:41mainly for women and children, and of course, as the Sergeant pointed out,
05:46it's not just for women and young women, but also for male adults and young male adults to also get involved, you know.
05:55And I imagine, Sergeant, that it's always a very touchy subject, you know,
06:01domestic violence and other types of violence against women that rates ugly head from time to time.
06:06And if you can just, I mean, at least during this year,
06:11you would have seen some of these things happen to women.
06:16And, you know, you would have had to obviously deal with a lot of these young women
06:21or middle-aged women or elderly women as it pertains to this kind of violence.
06:27Yes, domestic violence has been prevalent over the years.
06:31Yes, it's a very touchy subject.
06:33It is a very serious subject.
06:37There are some offenses that emanate from domestic violence that can lead to death.
06:42And we have women who are not yet empowered,
06:46and they're not strong enough to come to the police to report.
06:51But some are coming, and we have seen a trend where they are walking through our doors,
06:56and we are trying our very best to assist with the agencies that we work alongside.
07:02But, yes, it's a very serious and touchy issue.
07:05Of course, not just the police, but the community, persons living in your neighborhood,
07:11you all also have a role to play.
07:13If you see something that's happening at your next door to your house
07:17that might be very disturbing as it relates to a woman or a young girl or a lady,
07:22a young lady, sorry, it is imperative that you reach out to the police and let them know
07:28because the police has a job to do, but they also need the assistance
07:32and the cooperation of the public in helping to ensure
07:36that this kind of domestic violence does not continue.
07:40We have always, Mark, been supportive from the public.
07:45We have always been very pleased that they do come out from time to time
07:53and they assist and share information with us.
07:57For that, we want to say thanks to the public.
07:59We want to say thanks to Trinidad and Tobago.
08:02Domestic violence is one that most women are embarrassed and hurt about.
08:09It does not only affect a woman.
08:11It's exposed on a child, it's also on elderly women,
08:16and I want to stick with men today because men tend to figure
08:21that we don't place enough emphasis on them when they are abused.
08:28There are different types of abuse.
08:29You have the financial abuse, you have emotional abuse,
08:33you have physical abuse, you have sexual abuse,
08:36and all of these things are under domestic violence,
08:39and they are really gruesome.
08:42We have seen reports coming into us,
08:44and it's very hard at times when you have to work with a female
08:49with a lot of injuries,
08:53and they have to bring themselves back to that strong state
08:57to take care of their children,
08:59to walk the road without anybody saying things adverse against them.
09:04So we work with them.
09:05We have, as I said before, we have been working with agencies.
09:08The victim and witness support unit is very, very powerful with us,
09:14with those victims as well, and we are working with them.
09:17We have started empowering them, doing small campaigns in each district
09:21where we ask women to come out and we tell them what to do.
09:25We advise them where to go to report,
09:29the things to do, what to look for,
09:30the little signs that you get in the house.
09:34So we are advising women to step up and step out.
09:38But men, don't forget, step out as well.
09:40You know, as you mentioned, financial abuse.
09:43And I had a friend, I spoke to her a couple of weeks ago,
09:46and he had a female in a very similar position of financial abuse
09:52he was telling me about.
09:54And I really want to hope that that female, whoever she is,
09:59takes stock of, you know, your husband financially abusing you
10:03because it's a case of where she is the sole provider
10:07and he sits at home for several years now.
10:10She has to take care of the children.
10:11He gets income from another source, does not share it,
10:16and he also uses her money.
10:18So I really think that that is a situation that she needs to get out of.
10:24It's one way or the other.
10:26Yes, I think that she should get out of that situation as well.
10:30And there are some women who, they really don't know what to do.
10:34You can contact us at the Gender Based Vile, at the Special Victims Unit.
10:38We have six regions across Trinidad and Tobago,
10:41and we can channel you in a direction to get that sort of assistance and empowerment.
10:46Yep, certainly.
10:48All right, let's move on.
10:49We'll talk a little bit more about the Gender Based Violence campaign
10:53as the show wears on.
10:55And, of course, we know this weekend is Tobago Carnival,
10:59and there were a number of events that started.
11:01This morning in Tobago, we had a particular fit,
11:06and, of course, there were police out in their numbers.
11:09And so there was an individual in that crowd that was bent on causing some kind of disruption.
11:19And this is a very prolonged video,
11:22but I can just give you a summation as we look at it, Sergeant,
11:26that this individual, prior to this,
11:30was trying to escort him out of the compound of the event.
11:35But he decided to challenge these officers,
11:40and you can see it here, simply inside.
11:42And I have to admit that the officers,
11:45they were a little bit, you know,
11:46they tried to restrain him without using too much force.
11:50And he stood there, even on.
11:52Then his friend comes apart from him, and look what happens.
11:55Sergeant, tell persons who are sometimes in an inubiated state
11:59and that they're getting themselves in trouble,
12:02what is the right thing to do when the police come to you and say,
12:05hey, it's time for you to leave the event?
12:09It's simple.
12:11Just cooperate with the police.
12:15It's not something hard.
12:17You just listen.
12:19So if the police wants to take you away from the crowd,
12:23because, Mark, they're not drinking water, you know.
12:26Exactly.
12:27They're drinking a little alcohol.
12:29And one must know how much that they can consume
12:32and how they can handle it in events such as these.
12:35So we're asking you, just cooperate with the police,
12:39and things are going to be okay.
12:40Yeah, I mean, and there are going to be several other events today,
12:44later tonight, into tomorrow, into Sunday.
12:48You know, you have the big carnival street parade on Sunday.
12:51So we want to employ persons.
12:52If you know you're drinking and you cannot hold your liquor,
12:56obviously, you know, this is the consequence of that,
12:59and we want to assure you that you need to know when enough is enough.
13:03And on top of that, if your friends decide it's time for you to leave
13:07and you're so inclined not to,
13:10and you get into some kind of argument or altercation with someone or the police,
13:15the thing is that they're going to have to arrest you and take you to a cell,
13:19and you're going to spend the weekend inside jail until Monday.
13:24I must commend the police, Omar.
13:26They really handled it well.
13:28I really, really must commend the Tobago Division.
13:31Yes.
13:31Yes.
13:31All right.
13:34So, we have a video from the Barataria District here of a phone snatcher.
13:41Look at this.
13:44Or change to a snatcher, rather.
13:49So, you see, the guy's on his phone.
13:52So, they did take his phone, yeah?
13:54And it seems his chain.
13:56Yeah, they took his chain.
13:59So, I know that situational awareness, ASP Pet always teaches us,
14:05be aware of your surroundings.
14:07That's right.
14:07Because you are on the phone, your back is turned,
14:10and these men now are sneaking up on you unsuspectingly,
14:15grab your gold chain, and then runs off.
14:19Sergeant.
14:20Yes.
14:22It is, you see persons every day.
14:25They are on their phones, they're crossing the street,
14:29they are on their phones,
14:30and they are not aware of anything that is taking place in and around them.
14:35You have to be vigilant.
14:37We're asking persons, we're leaving into,
14:39we're moving from this November into the Christmas holiday,
14:43and then we go straight into Carnival, Trinidad Carnival.
14:46But we have to understand that we have that responsibility
14:51to take care of our space as well.
14:53Had he placed a little more effort in knowing where he's walking,
14:58he might have seen something, but you can't,
15:00because they are approaching him from behind.
15:03So, we're asking you, do not expose cash this time,
15:09openly in public.
15:11Don't be walking on the streets, not knowing what's happening.
15:15You're on your phone, talking with somebody,
15:17and not taking care of your surroundings.
15:18Well, yes.
15:20So, we're asking you, please, be vigilant about that.
15:23Most definitely.
15:24And, of course, if you have any information about those two assailants in that video,
15:28and you are able to identify them in any measure,
15:31please contact the nearest police station,
15:33which would probably be the Barataria Police Station,
15:36or you can call 800-TIPS-0999 if you have any information in reference to those two assailants
15:44that can assist the police in obviously apprehending them in the shortest possible time.
15:51All right.
15:52It's day 99 of the state of emergency, one short of 100 days.
15:57Let's take a look at the figures.
15:58Number of operations, 7,175.
16:02Target priority offenders, 2,462.
16:06Searches conducted, 47,095.
16:10Traffic operations, 4,780.
16:13Total persons arrested, 3,152.
16:18Traffic offenses detected, 28,595.
16:23Firearms recovered to date, 187.
16:26Ammunition recovered.
16:28We had a total 2,376 rounds.
16:32We had a rise in 9mm of 1,302 rounds.
16:37And I was not able to get to the dangerous drugs seized, of course.
16:42Oh, there it is.
16:44620,184.98 grams of cannabis.
16:49And we also had a rise in the seizure of cocaine.
16:518,822.3 grams, 3,5 grams, sorry, of cocaine.
16:57Sergeant.
16:59Oh.
17:01Those are the figures.
17:02Yes.
17:02We are doing a good job.
17:04I think that we are on a good road.
17:06I have also observed the pills, the ecstasy pills and the molly.
17:12Now, persons are not really looking at emphasizing that we do have these pills in Trinidad and Tobago.
17:19And young people are taking these pills.
17:23In parties, especially in Tobago, now you have this stink and dirty fit that they call it.
17:29A lot of young people going to the feds.
17:31So, I want these young people to understand and remember that there are pills out there and they are not to take.
17:38I'm happy, though, that the police actually are getting these pills off the streets.
17:42So, that was fantastic.
17:44I'm happy about that.
17:45All right.
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21:29Welcome back to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Musson, of course, joined today by Sergeant Cavell Mills-Walters of the Special Victims Unit.
21:39And I know, Sergeant, that there are some specific areas you'd like to delve into as it relates to the gender-based violence and some topics you want to just kind of expand on.
21:50Yes, we want to inform the public. Some of our fellow viewers may not know who or what is the Special Victims Department.
22:00So the Special Victims Department is a unit that has three branches that were amalgamated.
22:07You have the Child Protection Unit, you have the Gender-Based Violence and the Sexual Offenses Unit.
22:13So the Child Protection Unit was launched in 2018. We started in 2018, in 2015, sorry.
22:21And the Gender-Based Unit started in 2020.
22:27The Child Protection Unit investigates all crimes as it relates to children.
22:31One such, one prevalent offense that I really want to touch on is the offense of cruelty.
22:42Mark, we see children coming into the unit with injuries, and a parent would say,
22:48I can't take this child, I beat this child, or they will inflict injuries on that child.
22:56That when you look at it, there are other methods that you could use to correct or discipline that child.
23:03The offense of cruelty, it's under Section 4 of the Children's Act.
23:07That offense is when a person has responsibility of a child, and you willfully assaults, abandons, or neglects that child.
23:18So much so, that whatever is inflicted on the child causes harm to their emotional well-being as well.
23:28It is an offense, and you can be prosecuted.
23:31We ask parents, there are other methods that you could use.
23:35Children use little tactics with parents to try to get stuff.
23:39You can discipline your child without giving all that amount of blows, as we call it.
23:46Sometimes we have parents using weapons just to discipline a child.
23:54A hose, a cable, sometimes the side of a cutlass, and these are real issues.
24:01Sometimes, all we are asking you to do, sit with your children, talk with them.
24:07All you have to do is take something away, withhold something away from that child.
24:11If you start that, they have a lot of gadgets.
24:14Everybody have a tablet.
24:15Everybody have a cell phone.
24:17That is what they love.
24:18Start removing things from them that they love, that they are fond of.
24:22And then you see things start happening.
24:26If I have the time, I can share a little experience where my daughter, when she was much younger, she loved the phone.
24:32And I told her, go and watch the wires.
24:34And I went out and come back.
24:35And when I came back, this child, no wires.
24:38And I took off my breaker because the phone had to charge.
24:41So, after I took that breaker off the phone, there is no electricity in the house to charge that phone.
24:47So, okay, my wires were cleaned and my kitchen sorted.
24:51And I am sitting there very nicely.
24:53I did not end up in the police station.
24:56So, parents, let's find little avenues to get around these children so that we can lessen the reports of cruelty.
25:05We also investigate other crimes under the Children's Act, sexual penetration and sexual touching.
25:12They are some of the more serious offenses.
25:15Parents, listen to that child.
25:17When a child comes to you, mommy, this is what has happened to me.
25:21There are signs that you see.
25:22They may wet their beds.
25:24They may, the behaviors change.
25:26So, you would see little signs from these children.
25:28They start at school, they're rebellious and no one can talk to them.
25:33They don't want to hear authority.
25:35So, you would see the little signs.
25:37We're asking you to listen.
25:39And when that is done, and they say, mommy, this has happened to me, bring them to the closest police station and you make that report.
25:49We are, as I said earlier, we have six regions.
25:52So, we are in St. Clair.
25:54We are in Tobago.
25:56We are in the east at Grandy Police Station.
25:58We are in Southern Division at Oropoach Police Station.
26:01We are in Maracas and Joseph in the northern.
26:03So, we have, we are across Trinidad and Tobago.
26:07So, when you go to the station and you make a report, we are contacted and we will investigate.
26:12All right.
26:13So, I hope the parents and all those adults out there are paying heed to the information that the sergeant is sharing with us from the Special Victims Unit.
26:21I think we have our first caller on the line.
26:24Caller, good evening and welcome to be on the tape.
26:25Good evening, Mark.
26:28Good evening, Sergeant.
26:29Good evening.
26:31This is in connection with domestic violence against men.
26:35I just want to ask you to be men because I was also a victim of domestic violence over 20 years ago.
26:42I just want to ask you to be in a relationship where a woman is taking advantage of it, whether it is physical, mental, global, or financial, because knowing to me for example, if I stayed in that relationship, one of three things would have happened to me.
27:01I thought I would have been dead, in jail, or for soothed, because I know we all have a breaking point, and I know that we live in that relationship, when the research has a breaking point, and I was feeling that in men, do not put yourself in a position where you could, there was just a woman or damage somebody, but I have never been violent to watch the trace of these violence, you know, and I left that.
27:30That's even, and I'm so happy as I left.
27:34I was not, and it was not in Trinidad by you, but still the same thing.
27:40I have been threatened, I was using all forms and sections, both mental, global, spiritual, emotional, financial, you name it, I have been through it.
27:51So I'm out.
27:52Well, I just want to ask, and I really appreciate you sharing your story with us, for other men to come out if they feel that they've been treated this way.
27:59But what was your experience like when you, did you report this matter in the other jurisdiction, and what was the response like by the police in relation to your abuse?
28:09No, I was, I was, I was told that I should report it, but I did not.
28:15Okay.
28:16I was afraid of being humiliated because it was in the state, because I still don't know what situation here in Trinidad, which happened some years ago, where a young guy went to the station down south, reported the abuse, and he was humiliated, and he ran him out of the station.
28:32And I said I was, and I said I was not going to watch the last sort of embarrassment because it is, instead of only, not only are you being embarrassed by, by him, violated in all form and fashion, but you know that you could have a situation to report something where they are supposed to protect and serve, and instead of doing this, taking a report, a lot of you have to feel the situation.
28:55So that is my contribution to this, once again, I'm appealing to all men, please do not stay in that situation, get out of it as quickly as possible.
29:05Kuala, thanks so much for sharing that very intimate and personal, you know, story with us.
29:13You know, it's certainly a very difficult thing to relive that experience, Sergeant, after 20 years, he said.
29:20And hats off to you, sir, for leaving that relationship and being a stronger person by saying, I can get out of this.
29:27And maybe you had friends that also gave you advice on other persons along the way.
29:32And we want to also employ, Sergeant, men right here in Trinidad and Tobago, if you feel that you're being abused in any way, and if you don't have the courage to leave, you need to ask for help by the police and others.
29:46Yes. I want to thank the caller so much. I know that it would have taken a lot for you to speak to us this evening on that issue, because as I said earlier, it's a very touchy subject.
30:00And as it relates to men, it's a little different as opposed to women.
30:05I am happy that you are one of the strong ones that stood up and looked at the real picture.
30:10I am sorry, though, that you had to endure that experience with the police.
30:15And we have male victims in Trinidad and Tobago that experience that would say the same thing that they have experienced it.
30:21Yeah, I think you were talking about somebody in Trinidad, not him.
30:24Oh, in Trinidad, right.
30:26That went through that in South Trinidad.
30:27So, at this time, the unit, we have trained officers at our unit to handle both male and females to handle reports of this sensitive nature.
30:38So, hence the reason we ask, come into the station, and they would refer you to us, who are trained and specialized, to handle these sensitive issues.
30:47And again, caller, thank you so much.
30:50All right. Caller, thanks again.
30:51And we're going to take a short break.
30:53And when we get back, we'll take more of your calls.
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33:30Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
33:46I'm your host, Mark Misson, of course, joined today by Sergeant Cavill Mills-Walters of the Special Victims Unit.
33:52And as we are on the subject of children and, of course, young women, we wanted to remind you of these two young women, the Children's Authority are seeking your assistance in locating them.
34:04The first is Ashley Mohamed, 17 years, last seen in the Port of Spain area.
34:09Anyone with information regarding the whereabouts of Ashley Mohamed, we are asking you to contact the authority at 996 or the police at 999.
34:20Excuse me.
34:21The second is Jenna Marie Regis, 15 years of age, last seen in the Shiguanas area.
34:30So, please, if you have any information about either of these young women, you are asking you to contact the authority at 996 or the police at 999.
34:39Sergeant.
34:40Yes.
34:41We have seen children in recent times being missing or they are running away.
34:48We have interviewed quite a lot of them within the last week or so where we see children, just parents not able to see where their children are and where they are going.
35:02So, children now have the authority to walk and go and no one to report to.
35:12And then they have it now in their minds, look, here's what, I can do this, so I don't need to tell anybody anything.
35:19And then when someone comes to them and says, look, you can't do that, these are the things that you must do, let me exercise some authority here.
35:30They're not accustomed to it, so in many cases they leave.
35:34No one must tell them what to do and how to operate.
35:36I am not saying that some children are not experiencing a challenge at home or not, but I'm just saying that these are critical issues that parents need to look at when these children are constantly, and some of the children, they go, they are repeated.
35:52It repeated running away situations and not coming home.
35:57I spoke with a child yesterday, and the mother is saying to me, at 10 o'clock, my 15-year-old, I told him to come home at 6, but he walks into my house at 10 p.m. every night.
36:08You deal with it.
36:10How could that be?
36:12And these are the things we ask parents, look, put your feet down and take control of your children.
36:19We can't do it alone, the police.
36:21We're asking the public, though, these two girls who are, the pictures were up a short while ago, contact us.
36:28Contact the nearest authority, the numbers are there, and inform us if you see them.
36:33We also have the scenario, Sergeant, that some of these young women or young men or women, as the case may be, are also in particular homes.
36:44Sometimes it's confinement, right?
36:54A child is not accustomed to the confinement when they go into the homes.
36:58Remember, when you go into those homes, there are certain rules and regulations.
37:01If I'm not accustomed to that at home, when I go to the home, you can't tell me anything.
37:07So they want that level of freedom to do what they want, say what they want, and operate how they want.
37:13And so sometimes you find them leaving and going, running away to get that sense of freedom.
37:20And there are adults out there who encourage and keep these children.
37:26It is very serious, and the Special Victims Department, and I know I can speak for the TTPS, we are not going to sit by and allow adults to keep these children.
37:36You knowing that this child is underage, she is probably a ward of the state, or somebody else's child in your house.
37:44We're not going to say, we're going to investigate, and we're going to come hard.
37:48All right.
37:50Okay, we have another call on the line.
37:51Caller, good evening, and welcome to you on the table.
37:54Yes, go ahead.
37:56Good afternoon, thank you.
37:57Most welcome.
37:59And thank you for receiving my call, and you should be good for us every day.
38:03That's why we watch every day.
38:07Okay, what?
38:08Are you here, my property?
38:09Yes, sir, I'm here.
38:10Go ahead.
38:12Thank you, Mr. Basan.
38:13Okay, this is a lady who I'm just representing on the show, because then she is living in William Street, on extension, Calacaca.
38:22She.
38:23Now, she's having some issues with her neighbors, like, they don't point here to talk about music, music, music, music, music, and music, and then this is never been addressed.
38:33Because she has some young fellows living at her, at her, back of her house, and that's music all the time, and she has no rest to them.
38:40She's been making, she's making complaints at some stations in bacteria, and still, she hasn't been addressed in her problem.
38:50Plus, she has some neighbors also, that she's complaining about with some machines around her, yeah, this way.
38:58Machine, machine, this machine, that machine, all pictures and so on, that causing hazard to her, places like rats and, rats and, rats and, which, and so on, and, yeah, now, she's been,
39:09she's, in India, now, just to lose things up to now.
39:13Technical communication, so then, I just say, no problem here with you all, if you can get some assistance of you all.
39:19Kola, if you can leave your number, uh, off here for the sergeant, she will obviously contact you, and then you can, uh, put her in touch with the, uh, relevant person, yes?
39:27All right, so I think he's gone, I think, uh, he will leave his number.
39:33Uh, a very unfortunate situation there, sergeant, you know, you're living in a community where you have, um, you know, neighbors that are not considerate.
39:43Uh, he talked about, uh, he talked about loud music, he talked about young men and they are near, talked about persons leaving derelict, uh, appliances all about the area near her house.
39:54I mean, how do you deal with, she has made several reports, she claims, uh, how do, does an individual get some respite?
40:01We have to look at, I would have to look at the report to get further information on it, to see how far, um, the report has, has gone.
40:12Um, I know that the TTPS has partnered with EMA in terms of the noise pollution, and they are working on, on issues to deal with that.
40:22As it relates to the derelict, um, items that have been left, I know, with the health department, and around Christmas time, I know they go around, but we, we have station council meetings in all these stations, where we partner with all each of our stakeholders.
40:39And I am sure the district, as I said, I would prefer to speak with them to find out if someone from the corporation can be contacted, and that could be dealt with.
40:49Most certainly.
40:50All right, we have another caller online. Caller, good evening, and welcome to be on the tape.
40:55Yes, please, good evening.
40:57Good evening.
40:59Go ahead, we're hearing you.
41:02Yes.
41:04Can the officer tell me whether it's an offence for a person, a young person, either under the age of 16 or whatever, a minor as it is, if he or she can be charged for loitering?
41:17Is that the question, sir, that if a, under the, a minor could be charged?
41:26Well, if he can answer that to me, and then I'd like to make a comment.
41:30Okay.
41:32Go, go ahead and ask the other thing, and then the sergeant can answer in completion.
41:41Caller?
41:42All right.
41:43So, you know, Sarge, you can go ahead and answer.
41:47A child could be charged for any offence from the age of 8 years old.
41:51For sexual offences, you can be charged as a child from the age of 11.
41:58Wow.
41:59All right, caller, so I hope that answered your question, that a child could be charged as young as 8 years old,
42:05and for a sexual offence at the age of 11.
42:09All right, so do we have another caller, producer?
42:20All right, so I think we have another caller on the line.
42:22Caller, good evening, and welcome to be on the table.
42:26Hello, caller.
42:29Good evening, caller.
42:30I don't know, I'm not hearing the caller, so I'm going to make one final attempt.
42:38Hello, caller.
42:40Hi, good night.
42:40Yes, good afternoon.
42:42You're live on the table.
42:43Hi, good afternoon.
42:44Go ahead.
42:46My contribution is I'm a mother of this current situation.
42:52What current situation?
42:54You have to let us know.
42:55Well, my daughter, she's missing for about seven months now, and I've been dealing with
43:05the situation for a while now, and then see them post back up her face or anything like
43:11that, and so I want to know, like, will the proceedings, whether to go forward with that
43:19because, you know...
43:21Was this...
43:22Did you report the matter, ma'am?
43:24Yes, the matter is reported.
43:28All right, and which district is this?
43:30This is the Mova district.
43:32Mova district.
43:33So what you can do is leave your number off here, and the sergeant will contact you for
43:39further details, and she will follow up with you, so hopefully she can get some answers for
43:44you as to what has become of the investigation, rather, and it's very unfortunate that, you
43:50know, it's seven months, you have a young child missing, a daughter, and, you know, we
43:56are hopeful that, you know, we can get some assistance for you, ma'am.
44:01All right, so we're going to take a short break, and when we get back, we'll have more.
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46:03This is Mary.
46:09Mary has bills to pay and takes a chance parking in front of the building at the no parking sign.
46:17Mary returns to her car and this is what happens.
46:21Mary decides to call when she's five minutes away to let her daughter know that she is close by.
46:34But Mary forgot one thing.
46:43After two tickets, Mary just isn't paying attention to her speed.
46:48Don't be like Mary.
47:05Obey the laws of the road.
47:08A message from the TTPS.
47:18Welcome back to Be On The Tape.
47:26I'm your host, Mark Bassan, of course, joined today by Sergeant Cavell Mills-Walters of the Special Victims Unit.
47:32And we have another caller in line.
47:34Caller, good evening and welcome to Be On The Tape.
47:37Good evening, sir.
47:38Good evening, sir.
47:39Good evening, sergeant.
47:41Good evening.
47:42Good evening, ma.
47:43Good evening, sir.
47:44Um, I'm a former member of the Defense Board.
47:48Um, what I'm calling to come to talk about is that what if the parent of the child, 17-year-old underage, I will believe still,
47:59allows the daughter to go to one of these, um, so-called pets.
48:06Well, you know, like that, just in a particular way, in the care of a 21-year-old boy.
48:14All right?
48:15What, what, what, what, I, I reported the mother because I find it was this peaceful, but the mother thinks that the Defense House member, she thinks that what she did is right.
48:26And I want, I would like to know what, what steps I could take more than just reporting it, what she had to be on the child, but she's just 17-year-old.
48:40Yeah, uh, caller, is this, uh, this young lady related to you in any way?
48:45The young lady, that's my daughter.
48:47Oh, it's your daughter.
48:47I'm sorry, I didn't hear that part.
48:50Uh, sergeant, you want to...
48:51I want to advise you to come in to us so that we could have conversations, um, that would be a bit more intimate, so that we can advise you better.
49:06Because I don't know the relationship of this gentleman to the 17-year-old.
49:11If it's an uncle, the child is definitely under, underage.
49:16Once you're under the age of 18, you are considered a child in Trinidad and to be gone.
49:20And the laws of this country.
49:22So I would prefer if you can come in to the station district where the special victims unit is assigned and we can advise you further.
49:35All right, caller, I understand that the caller left this number for you, sergeant.
49:38Okay.
49:38So obviously you can, uh, have a conversation with the caller.
49:41And, you know, that is just one of hundreds of stories across Trinidad and Tobago where you have parents or the guardians allowing young women to dress a particular way and go out with older men, regardless of the fact.
49:57Even if they're your friend, there must be some, some line of demarcation, uh, you draw so that persons, I mean, it's, it's unconscionable to allow a young woman to be dressed scantily under age and go out with somebody four or five, six, even eight years older.
50:14And, and, and this is what I say all the time, Mark.
50:18It boils down to your morals.
50:21It boils down to discipline.
50:24I have two girls and I did not have that type of, they, they had events that they would have gone to.
50:31They would have gone with adults.
50:32But to leave your parents home and are dressed in a particular way, scantily dressed, let me say, and go to a fet is a no, no.
50:43So we're asking parents to be mindful that when you do that, you sell your daughter out there for somebody who is looking at that child.
50:55Yeah.
50:56Right?
50:56Adults go to parties, not children.
51:00Yeah.
51:00You're quite right.
51:01All right.
51:02We have another caller in line.
51:03Caller, good evening and welcome to be on the tape.
51:05Hey, good evening to the panel.
51:07Good evening.
51:07Officer, a really important area here where you're looking.
51:11It's very, very important.
51:12And just one question I have to ask.
51:14If a minor has been assaulted, sexually assaulted, by someone in a, in a home, and the person tells us what's the matter about it.
51:23But because the person who did it is the breadwinner of the home, and the mother kind of, you know, she don't want to really, she, she doesn't want to deal with it.
51:31And the person tells somebody else, can that be, what can be done in that situation?
51:38Because she tells her mother, if the mother fails to do anything, she tells somebody else, can that person, you know, make a report so that something can be done about it?
51:46Thank you very much.
51:48Of course that you can't, the person can.
51:51Yeah.
51:51You, under the Sexual Offenses Act, there is the mandatory reporting.
51:57You must report, make a report to us or to the police if a child reports to you that they have been sexually assaulted, right?
52:09And the law caters to a person who fails to do that, can be charged.
52:18And the mother, the mother knowing that this child is assaulted, can be held accountable by law.
52:27So that person who knows, go to the closest police station, they will contact the Special Victims Unit, and the report will be investigated.
52:37All right.
52:39Very disturbing story there.
52:40We have another caller in the line.
52:42Caller, good evening and welcome to, you're on the tape.
52:45Yes, good afternoon.
52:46Good evening, sir.
52:47Good evening to you and the officer, yeah?
52:49Yes.
52:49But I'm listening to the program, and I observe, not observe, I realize certain statements are being made.
52:59But the important part of the statement is there is a thing called date rape.
53:06As you mentioned, eight years old, going out with 16 and 10 years older than them and all this other thing.
53:16Technically, it's a set-up.
53:20You could call it what you want.
53:22But technically, it's a thing you use to rape a young person.
53:28You call it date rape.
53:30Have a good evening.
53:31Thanks a lot, caller.
53:35Sergeant?
53:36Date rape happens globally.
53:41It's worldwide.
53:42A young girl goes out with a gentleman.
53:45It doesn't have to be a child.
53:47But you are going on a date with a gentleman, and he forces himself on you.
53:51You just want to go and have a good time with lime and so on, and he wants more.
53:54So we're asking persons, young ladies, be careful.
53:59Look for little signs.
54:00Men would slip things in your drink to have, you know, you don't know anything.
54:06The next morning you get up and you feel a particular type of way.
54:10It already happens.
54:11So be careful.
54:12And as I'm on that point, we have seen girls are meeting men on social media.
54:19And they are going out with these men.
54:21Sometimes they don't even know the last name of that particular male person.
54:29And when something happens, you don't have enough information to give to the police so that we can help.
54:36You take it for granted.
54:38So we're asking you to be very careful of the men you meet on social media.
54:43You don't know anything about these men.
54:45Be careful.
54:46All right, we have our last caller on the line for the show.
54:52Caller, good evening and welcome to Be On The Tape.
54:54Have a minute?
54:54Yeah.
54:55Good evening to one of you.
54:58One is one of you, in fact, one of the best programs in this country.
55:04And of course, good evening to the lovely sergeant.
55:06Thank you, sir.
55:07What I want to advance is, sergeant, you still mean that somebody, someone has to report based on law any infraction with respect to the misappropriation of sexual activity with a child.
55:30But what you're saying, I believe, is distant from the reality of the society.
55:38If the woman is dependent on this man as the breadwinner in the room, and one child is saying to her that this father is interfering with me,
55:53the woman, most and oftentimes, she's determined to keep her family together.
55:59The woman oftentimes does not report that.
56:02I have come across a number of families that that is their reality.
56:07Because you are calling to the law, and you report, and the man is accused, the man is sequestered, and he is eventually detained and jailed.
56:22What happens to the family?
56:24The woman is looking at the perspective that I may just have to go into prostitution, I may have to go out to work.
56:33I may actually go out to work straight, because the only breadwinner, I am now supporting an accusation against the breadwinner.
56:42Kola, I know you're from Guayaguari, I remember the voice.
56:44We have to go, so let her answer for you now.
56:47So quickly, let me just say this.
56:49It is an offense.
56:50You can't do that.
56:52I understand the social needs of mothers and their single parents and so on, and you depend on that man wholly and solely financially.
56:59But there are agencies that we work with that can guide the parents, so that we can channel you in a direction that can empower you to be able to be employed or sustain and maintain your family.
57:10So please, don't use that as an excuse.
57:13It is.
57:13Thank you so much, Sergeant.
57:14You have been a breath of fresh air on this program today.
57:17Your first time here.
57:18Yes.
57:18And I have to tell Miss Archie on public television, I hope that you see this again here.
57:24Once again, she was terrified, but I'm sure she did well, and I'm sure the public will agree with me.
57:30All right.
57:31Remember, repeat tonight at 11.30.
57:34No repeat tomorrow.
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