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00:00Oh, my God. Oh, wow. Wow. I am so sorry. I am so sorry. I didn't even hear the doorbell.
00:20But come on in. Happy Thursday, everyone. So the campaign manager for Katie Porter
00:25allegedly told her, you look bad the other night. She said, you mean the interview? And he said,
00:34what interview? Meanwhile, Sonoma County in California has reinstituted mask mandates for
00:42health care facilities. It's all part of a larger effort to cover half of Katie Porter's face.
00:48Just when we're running out of weirdos, we get new ones. Virginia Democrat Jay Jones's poll numbers
00:59dropped since those texts surfaced of him claiming he wanted his opponent's kids killed.
01:06He says he's not worried his numbers will improve once he murders the pollster.
01:10Hey, if it works, it works. Florida police claim they found a large thermos inside an arrested man's
01:20rectum. Police are on the lookout for an accomplice with an ass full of donuts.
01:26gives new meaning to the phrase donut holes. The last escapee from a New Orleans jailbreak has
01:42finally been caught in Atlanta. So how did he remain on the run for 145 days? Cops found him hiding in
01:49a thermos. President Trump announced that Hamas has agreed to release all the hostages.
02:06You're welcome. His next challenge, freeing this man.
02:11been a long time, been a long time, been a long time.
02:17I have a yellow ribbon outside my tree.
02:20Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu called for President Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize,
02:25not for the Gaza deal, but for getting Rosie O'Donnell to self-deport.
02:35Podcaster Hassan Piker appeared to use a shock collar on his dog
02:40for not sitting still during his boring show.
02:44After hearing the news, Jimmy Kimmel bought his audience shiny new collars.
02:52And finally, the View co-host, Alyssa Farah Griffin, just announced she's pregnant.
02:57Oh, I know. It's history. It's the first time a co-host on the show actually had sex.
03:06That we know of.
03:07All right. So something's off with today's Democrats. Take Katie Porter, who's running
03:13for governor of California. She's the left's latest ray of sunshine. And like the sun,
03:19looking directly at her will damage your eyes.
03:23What do you say to the 40 percent of California voters who you'll need in order to win
03:26who voted for Trump?
03:28How would I need them in order to win, ma'am?
03:32Well, unless you think you're going to get 60 percent of...
03:35So you don't think...
03:36I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What is your question?
03:39Well, to those voters. Okay, so you...
03:42I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it.
03:43You're not going to do the interview with us?
03:45Nope. Not like this. I'm not. Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.
03:50It's no surprise she freaked what she heard 40 percent,
03:52since that's her level of body fat.
03:59Then there's this recently surfaced nugget.
04:04To air pollution and other problems? And the state could lose...
04:08Get out of my shot!
04:11I want to say something that's actually incorrect. It's not that it's electric vehicles. It's that
04:16if we don't need the commitments under the Paris climate report.
04:19Okay. It does... Okay. You also were in my shot before that.
04:24Stay out of my shot.
04:29Nice girl.
04:30Yeah. No wonder everyone who works for her ends up on a milk carton.
04:35If only she could retain staff the way she retains water.
04:40Then...
04:41Wow.
04:42I know.
04:42I know.
04:43There's left-wing streamer Hassan Piker, who's being accused of shocking his dog on a live stream.
04:51It's the same reason as to why, America, Kaya, please just...
04:56Stop.
05:01I know.
05:04Let's see it one more time.
05:06Yes.
05:07It's the same reason as to why, America, Kaya, please just...
05:12Go...
05:13Just stop.
05:15So, what did he just do to that dog?
05:18And for what?
05:19Just standing up?
05:20And that's the Democrats' new model for liberal male masculinity?
05:24A guy who treats his dog the way Hunter Biden treats his penis?
05:27I mean, I don't know if he shocks his penis, but I'm assuming.
05:34Who wouldn't?
05:36If I had the options.
05:39And what of Greta, the left's favorite vegan Swedish meatball?
05:43She posted a photo of a starving Israeli hostage claiming it was a starving Palestinian.
05:49But I guess they all look alike when you skip school for 15 years.
05:52Or maybe it's the brain damage you get when you replace a protein-rich diet with anti-Semitism.
05:59But at least her new haircut has Jews and Muslims both united in recommending a veil.
06:09Now, she's not a yank, but she could be the face of the Democrat Party.
06:13Female, white, unhinged.
06:15I give her credit, though.
06:16She's the only hostage in history where the kidnappers kept sending her back.
06:20The list goes on.
06:23Chuck Schumer, he's still a grim ghoul who sleeps hanging upside down.
06:27Trump and the Republican Party are hell-bent on taking health care away from 60 million people.
06:34It's a disgrace.
06:35So Democrats have three words for this.
06:38No way.
06:40Hmm.
06:42How fake is that?
06:43The only time Chuck says no effing way is when the eight Cialis pills he guzzled won't work.
06:48And Jay Pritzker and Jerry Nadler, insufferable.
06:59But at least we know what happened to those fat twins on motorbikes.
07:05I always wanted to know what happened to them.
07:09And Akeem, as I call him, straight Obama,
07:12looks like he's sleepwalking through a living nightmare.
07:18Then there's Schiff, Swalwell, Booker, three Dems who don't have one ball among them.
07:23And Brandon, Liz, and Tim.
07:26One's a buffoon, the other's a fake, and the other is stage four jazz hands.
07:32So it's obvious.
07:33It's not just the message.
07:34It's the manner.
07:35I mean, compare a campus pro-Hamas rally to a turning point event.
07:40On one hand, you have a misshapen mob.
07:42On the other, the cast of a hotter version of Melrose Place.
07:46Didn't the Dems once have some fun people?
07:50I mean, at least Bill Clinton looked like a good time.
07:54He was an inspiration to men everywhere who focused on banging ugly chicks.
08:01Today's Dems are different.
08:02They can't find their footing in reality.
08:05And true, the right has their oddballs.
08:08But here's the difference.
08:10They're fun.
08:11You know, Marjorie, Boebert.
08:13They at least look like they'd get drunk and shoot BBs at fat kids.
08:20And be honest.
08:22Getting locked up by Kristi Noem is a top ten role-playing fantasy.
08:28As long as it's not at a kennel.
08:32Hey.
08:34Fair and balanced.
08:36But the Dems, they seem so, what's the word for it?
08:40Ugly.
08:42And that's because the mind and body are intertwined.
08:46And you can't be physically appealing if your mind is drowning in hate.
08:49Look at TDS sufferers before and after Trump.
08:52Their posture, hair, faces.
08:55Kathy Griffin alone can scare stripes off a zebra.
08:58That's the opportunity cost of Trump derangement.
09:03It drains all the energy, the humor, and joy from your life.
09:08That's why it's not a syndrome.
09:09It's an addiction.
09:10And what happens with an addict?
09:12They lose interest in everything but the drug.
09:14They stop bathing.
09:15They stop trying.
09:16The spouse leaves.
09:17The bills don't get paid.
09:19The friends disappear.
09:20In short, you're Keith Olbermann.
09:22The Dems are in desperate need of rehab.
09:28It's visible on their faces.
09:31They need help.
09:32But they need to ask for it first.
09:34Until then, all we can do is wait.
09:37And don't ever ask them to dog sit.
09:39Let's welcome tonight's good.
09:46He moved from D.C. to a farm because he was looking for less manure.
09:50Co-host of Fox and Friends Weekend, Charlie Heard.
09:55She knows more about the old pig skin than Kermit the Frog.
09:59Host of Michelle Tavoya Podcast.
10:00If it weren't for affirmative action, he'd get no action at all.
10:08And she may be bony, but she's never phony.
10:16New York Times best-selling author of Fox News, good drinker, catch up.
10:22Charlie, you're a happy guy, which is probably why you're kind of good-looking.
10:27You're kind of like a thinking man's Dennis Weaver.
10:36You're happy.
10:38Yeah.
10:38Yeah.
10:39Do you agree with me that happiness and looks are intertwined?
10:44And the idea that it's not a syndrome, that it's an addiction, I think is such a great point because that is the problem.
10:50And the problem with these people is they have been told all their lives that they have the answers.
10:55Katie Porter is convinced that she has all the answers to everybody's problems.
11:00That's why they love big government.
11:02That's why they love control.
11:03Because they think they can solve all of your problems.
11:07And if you believe that and you've been told that, you are a supremely arrogant person.
11:12And that's why these people will never, ever stop and acknowledge that they're wrong and that they need help.
11:19Yeah.
11:20They'll never get out of the addiction.
11:21When you said arrogant, she also believes that she doesn't need to persuade anybody.
11:26That's why she didn't like the follow-up questions.
11:29Yeah.
11:30Thank you, Sherrod.
11:31You know, Michelle.
11:32I have never met an unattractive, happy person in my life.
11:40It's, you're right.
11:43That's.
11:46That was amazing silence.
11:49The entire audience is thinking, he's full of s***.
11:53Oh, yes.
11:55But then you go to a strip club, there are all these hot chicks, but they're so miserable.
11:58It really makes it hard to have a lap dance.
12:02Not impossible.
12:03Not impossible.
12:04Not impossible.
12:05Not impossible.
12:07Well, if Katie Porter thinks she has all the answers, why doesn't she want any follow-up questions?
12:12That is a good question there.
12:14No, it's so true.
12:17They are arrogant.
12:18They're unhappy.
12:19I don't want to paint all Democrats with the same brush.
12:21Yeah.
12:22But certainly the loudest ones with the biggest platforms seem to be grumpy and unhappy and arrogant.
12:29And for her to say no to follow-up questions, she has no place in public service.
12:34Also, I think she's a little overeducated.
12:37She went to Yale.
12:38She went to Harvard.
12:39She was mentored by Elizabeth Warren, who's a fraud.
12:42And she just thinks she's entitled to walk right in and be a politician.
12:46As for the guy who shocked his dog, I believe he has citizenship in Turkey as well as America.
12:54So you know what?
12:55And he said earlier in that tape that he hates, he effing hates America.
13:00I think that he should go to Turkey because we're not going to bend to his needs.
13:04But he needs to leave his dog here.
13:06Shrod, you saw the clip of Katie Porter.
13:14You'd still hook up with her.
13:16I was still hit.
13:17I was still hit it.
13:18But that's not the point here, Greg.
13:21I'm still smashed.
13:223 a.m. at the bar.
13:24I'm still smashed.
13:25Let's not be too proud in here crowd.
13:29But it's a bad look.
13:31It's a bad look for her because she's coming off real.
13:33Lord have mercy, lady.
13:34And when I said, like, the single mother running for governor, I was like, the dude must be like, I'm so happy I got out of there.
13:41Yes, he did.
13:43Didn't she abuse him?
13:44She threw hot potatoes on his head.
13:46Yeah.
13:46She swallowed his scalp.
13:48In some relationships, at the beginning, you liked certain things and you didn't stop liking it.
13:51Yeah.
13:53At first, you mean, at first he liked the potatoes.
13:58He liked the potatoes at first.
13:59And then it was like a famine.
14:00He was like, he ain't want no more.
14:03He turned full Irish.
14:04This girl don't know history.
14:09So, Kat, what do you make of this whole Hassan Piker?
14:12Do you think he'd shock the dog?
14:14So, he's denying that he actually shocked the dog.
14:17I, for one, think he's lying.
14:19For two, don't think that is that relevant.
14:22He's still an asshole either way.
14:23Because, what kind of reaction is that to have to your dog standing?
14:29Right.
14:30Like, I have a dog.
14:31Never once has he stood up and I'm like, are you kidding me?
14:35Like, what the?
14:38Actually, I actually would go so far as to say that I like that my dog can stand.
14:44Yes.
14:44It's a good thing that my dog can stand.
14:48And, also, if I ever hear my dog make a sound like that, I am standing up to then go see if he's okay.
14:55Yes.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Yeah.
14:56He's a bad, I think this is a bad, you know, they say people that are cruel to animals are often serial killers.
15:01Absolutely.
15:01I'm not saying he's a serial killer.
15:04I'm saying, I'm not saying he's not a serial killer.
15:08I want America to decide, Kat.
15:10He's just doing that on a stream.
15:11Like, people are watching that.
15:13It's like, ugh, when your dog stands, am I right?
15:16Like.
15:16Yeah, that's their, that's your non-toxic masculinity for liberals.
15:21That's your non-toxic male, a guy who's mean to dogs.
15:24But he's, plus he's like, my mother spoiled the dog.
15:27It's like, dude, it's your mom's dog and you look like you're in your mom's basement.
15:30Yeah.
15:31Who are you to shock anybody?
15:33Yeah, exactly.
15:34I'd like to put those shocks on him.
15:37Oh.
15:38I don't really mean that.
15:39I do.
15:40All right.
15:41All right, let's do it.
15:43Get him!
15:44Get him.
15:44Get him.
15:46All right.
15:47Up next, Trump brings peace.
15:52Trump's peace plan a go.
15:54Michelle, big news.
15:55Trump announced that Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of a peace plan ending two years of war following.
16:01The October 7th attacks.
16:03They're going to release all 48 hostages held by Hamas.
16:07And then we're going to give up, like, a ton of their people.
16:10I always wonder, why is it not one-to-one?
16:12It's like the Palestinians, like, assume that, like, one Israeli is worth, like, four Palestinians.
16:18That's kind of an insult.
16:19Yeah, it kind of is.
16:20I don't have an answer to that.
16:22But what I will say is this.
16:23I saw a talking head on another network today say, well, are we worried now that Trump is going to expect the Nobel Peace Prize?
16:30Are we concerned about that?
16:33Who the hell cares?
16:35Yeah.
16:35I mean, even if he wants it, I'll just put it in these terms.
16:39Tom Brady wanted Super Bowls.
16:41Tiger Woods wanted to win majors.
16:43The New York Yankees want to win a world.
16:44Oh, I'm sorry.
16:46Is that too soon?
16:48Sorry.
16:49Oh.
16:50Did something happen?
16:53Here's the deal.
16:54In order to win the Nobel Peace Prize, you have to get peace.
17:00Yeah.
17:00So that is a bad thing, and he shouldn't want that.
17:03First of all, I don't care if he gets the prize.
17:05But here's the thing.
17:06People love to hate on success and winners.
17:09People, all the New York fans hate Tom Brady.
17:12Golfers hate Tiger Woods.
17:14They hate the New York Yankees, and they're going to hold it against him that he did something that so many other people could not do to hell with him.
17:23I know what you mean, though.
17:24I run into this.
17:27Shrod.
17:28Yeah.
17:29I run into this all the time.
17:30People hate me for my success.
17:32Yes.
17:32So you got my email.
17:34Yeah.
17:34Well, the Nobel Peace Prize, it ain't, I mean, maybe he'll get it.
17:44Maybe he won't get it.
17:45Does he deserve it?
17:46I don't know.
17:46I don't know the Nobel family.
17:47But I would say that it don't have the same, like, hit that it used to have, the Nobel Peace Prize.
17:53Yes, it doesn't.
17:54Back in the day.
17:54Yeah.
17:54They offered it to me two summers ago when I broke up in a fight on an A train.
18:00Express.
18:03Thank you for...
18:04Gotta get to work.
18:05Yeah.
18:06Gotta get to work.
18:07Kat, um, what are the...
18:14I have two shows going on right now.
18:19Kat, what do the protesters do now?
18:24Like, they don't have George Floyd anymore.
18:26They don't have trans.
18:27Now you take away this thing.
18:29Where are they going to go?
18:30They'll find something.
18:31Yeah.
18:31Yeah.
18:32They will find something.
18:32Should they protest you?
18:34I would honestly love the attention.
18:37You and me both.
18:39Right?
18:40I'd be like, you're all here for me?
18:43They'd be like, we hate you, bitch.
18:44I'd be like, all of you?
18:49It's very flattering.
18:51All those people got up, got dressed, marching in the streets.
18:53It's getting kind of cold out.
18:54All for me?
18:56We had a huge protest here a couple nights ago for the, uh, anti-Israel stuff.
19:02They're protesting Trump.
19:03Yeah.
19:04They're protesting, yeah.
19:04And then he does...
19:05And then he causes peace.
19:06So that's got to fry their brains.
19:08Well, I would like to disagree with one thing, Michelle, which is you need peace for the
19:12Nobel Peace Prize.
19:13I'm pretty sure Obama got it for vibes.
19:15Oh, that's a good point.
19:16He got it for vibes.
19:18Yes.
19:19And then after it was announced, less than two months after, he put tens of thousands
19:22more troops in Afghanistan.
19:23So I do think it's kind of lost.
19:25Yeah.
19:25Yeah.
19:25He got it for his first album.
19:26It was a good album.
19:28It was a good album.
19:29It was a good album.
19:30Yeah.
19:31Yeah.
19:32He wrote the second one on tour.
19:33It wasn't the same.
19:34It was a money grab.
19:36It was a money grab.
19:37You know, he wasn't ready.
19:38He wasn't ready.
19:39He wasn't ready.
19:41Charlie, you were on the five today.
19:43Try to say something you didn't say on the five.
19:47Yeah, I spilled it all there.
19:49No, if he does get the Nobel, they get offered the Nobel Peace Prize, I hope he rejects it.
19:54I think that would be the most baller move that he could do.
19:57Say that he's coming, but then, like, call Obama to go pick it up for him.
20:03But when you look at what Trump has done in the Middle East, it is so extraordinary.
20:08And he has never gotten the credit he deserves for the Abraham Accords because they were the precursor to this.
20:16It's all based on credibility.
20:17Yeah.
20:17Because he went over there with an America First perspective, and both sides recognized that he had credibility.
20:26And he talked about, like, turning Gaza into, like, the Riviera of the Mediterranean.
20:31And everybody was like, after they stopped laughing, they were like, oh, actually, you mean we could make some money doing this?
20:37And at the end of the day, that is what kind of brought everybody together, and the fact that he's not a typical BS politician.
20:45He's somebody that had credibility.
20:48And I think that he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
20:52Whether or not they have the wisdom to recognize that or not, who cares?
20:56It doesn't matter.
20:56You know what would be great, and I have a feeling Israel is going to do this, they're going to let those Palestinian Hamas members out, but then something's going to happen to them.
21:09It'll be down the line.
21:11Like they'll have pagers?
21:12Yeah, they'll have pagers.
21:13But see, I think they will actually, like, it'll be like an internal thing.
21:16Like, they'll put something surgically inside.
21:20Like a thermos.
21:24Why do I have a thermos up my ass?
21:26All right, up next.
21:32You can put a lot of C4 into a thermos.
21:34Yeah, so you can put a lot in there.
21:36CNN gets even dumber.
21:43Federal Air Marshals surveyed...
21:45Sorry, one more time.
21:52Federal Air Marsh surveilled Trump's cabinet member,
21:56Gabbard, in 2024, Rand Paul says.
22:00Kentucky Senator says TSA watch list was used to track down now DNI Tulsi Gabbard in 2024.
22:09Senator Rand Paul, RKY, said he received records confirming that federal air marshals surveyed now Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard during domestic flights last year.
22:20Reporting back information related to her appearance and even how many electronics she was observed using.
22:26The Republican from Kentucky made the revelation Tuesday on Capitol Hill as Department of Homeland Security DHS Secretary Chrissy Noem was testifying about her department's budget request for fiscal year 2026.
22:41I commend you and the Trump administration for ending all government-sponsored censorship using DHS personnel.
22:50Just last night, I received the first set of records from the department regarding Tulsi Gabbard's placement on the TSA Quiet Skies watch list, Paul said.
22:59These documents confirmed our suspicions.
23:03Federal Air Marshals surveyed the now Director of National Intelligence during domestic flights in 2024,
23:09reporting back information related to her appearance and even how many electronics she was observed using.
23:15Unfortunately, this is not an isolated case, he added.
23:26The Transportation Security Administration watch list allows federal air marshals to follow US citizens and collect information on their behaviour in an effort to stop threats from potential terrorists.
23:39As I was travelling, I ended up in 30 to 45 minutes of going through screening every time.
23:46I would go to the airport to fly, Gabbard previously told Fox's One Nation.
23:50I noticed air marshals, I noticed K-9 teams.
23:53There were things that I saw and noticed that were highly unusual.
23:57But despite the deepest pain and harm and stress that's been caused by this, is that forever going forward, I will always be looking over my shoulder, wondering if and how my government is surveilling me, she said.
24:11The TSA, as part of DHS Fox News Digital, reached out to DHS for comment, but they did not immediately respond.
24:18Paul also asked Noam on Tuesday if she has ever uncovered any internal communications or activities relating to the government under the Biden administration being involved in censorship.
24:31We have literally found thousands of documents that have proven that they were involved in censorship and policing speech.
24:37So we will be unveiling these to this committee and making sure we're exposing what CISA was doing with a vast majority of its time of certain employees, she said.
24:50The Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency is also part of DHS.
24:54And some of the discussion I think we'll have here today is about getting CISA back on mission and some of the reductions in staff that have been over there, Noam added.
25:05And that's reflected in the fact that many of them were doing the work that they shouldn't have been doing.
25:11Democrat lawmaker charged with assaulting federal agents laughs off fundraising questions.
25:29Representative Lamonica MacLeva allegedly slammed forearm into ICE officers during Newark detention facility confrontation.
25:37Representative Lamonica MacLeva refused to answer Fox News' questions over whether her motivations for storming a federal immigration detention centre earlier this month was to increase her public image.
25:51After it was uncovered, MacLeva had been fundraising off the incident that has led to federal charges for the New Jersey Democrats.
25:59The Department of Justice publicly outed federal charges against MacLeva on Tuesday, accusing her of allegedly assaulting, impeding and interfering with law enforcement earlier this month at Newark Area Immigration Detention Facility, known as Delaney Hall.
26:16MacLeva was also there with two other members of Congress to conduct what they claimed were their congressional mandated oversight duties,
26:23as well as Mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Ras Baraka, who was subsequently arrested following the incident, but later had his charges dropped.
26:33Congresswoman, would you be able to tell us what made you decide to fundraise off the incident and the charges?
26:41MacLeva was asked.
26:43No comment, MacLeva said, as she laughed off the reporter, asking the question.
26:49Have a wonderful day.
26:50How do you respond to people who might think that's why you went to the ICE facility, that you wanted to fundraise off of it?
27:01But the follow-up question went unanswered as the Congresswoman repeatedly ignored the reporter's questions
27:07and instead focused her attention on the discussion with her staff that were accompanying MacLeva at the time.
27:13Any comment, Congresswoman, on the fundraising?
27:19Anything you could have done differently to avoid the charges?
27:24On Tuesday, Fox News Digital uncovered MacLeva was fundraising off her charges shortly after they came down from the Justice Department.
27:33Investigators accused MacLeva of assaulting two federal agents at Delaney Hall, according to the charging documents.
27:40Law enforcement says MacLeva assaulted the agents when she slammed her forearm into the body of a uniformed immigration official
27:49while trying to restrain the agent by forcibly grabbing him.
27:52MacLeva also allegedly tried to block agents from arresting Baraka and after he was put in handcuffs,
27:59allegedly pushed an ICE officer and used her forearms to forcibly strike the agent.
28:04As you know, Trump is using his Department of Justice to target political opponents.
28:10Less than two weeks ago, I was doing my job and conducting oversight at an ICE facility in my city.
28:15A fundraising text obtained by Fox News Digital stated,
28:18Now, the Trump admin has filed charges against me.
28:23This is a first time first and it's flashing red light for our democracy.
28:28It continues, I'm sounding the alarm and asking you to donate now so we can fight these charges and keep speaking truth to power.
28:35Emerging Venezuelian gang more violent than Trende Aragua target.
28:48Do you want to practice again? Trende Aragua.
28:52Aragua.
28:53Emerging Venezuelian gang more violent than Trende Aragua targets rural America, to experts warns.
29:0821 members of anti-Trend named in April federal indictment.
29:15An emerging Venezuelian gang has the potential to be more violent than Trende Aragua
29:20and target rural America, according to an expert.
29:25Members of the Venezuelian-based gang have formed the anti-Trende gang,
29:30which federal authorities say is made up of almost exclusively former members of Trende Aragua.
29:38In the newly unsealed April federal indictment,
29:42prosecutors accused 21 men of running drugs and prostitution rings in New York City.
29:48According to the indictment, members of anti-Trende protect their power and territory through various criminal acts,
29:55which includes violence towards members of Trende Aragua.
29:58Preserving and protecting the power and territory of anti-Trende and its members and associates
30:06through acts of murder, assault, other acts of violence and threats of violence,
30:12including acts of violence and threats of violence,
30:15directed at members and associates of Trende Aragua, the indictment states.
30:19Members of anti-Trende are also enriched through illegal smuggling,
30:26which includes young Venezuelan women, sex trafficking of women,
30:30drug trafficking and armed robberies, federal officials allege.
30:35Robert Charles, Assistant Secretary of State at the U.S. State Department's Bureau of International Narcotics
30:42and Law Enforcement Affairs from October 2003 to March 2005
30:47and main candidate told Fox News Digital he thinks the anti-Trende group
30:53has the potential to become the more violent and even more violent than Trende Aragua.
30:59I've read some of the public accounts that suggest that this offshoot group
31:04is trying to distinguish itself by being more violent, Charles said.
31:09With MS-13, they had various tests and things they went through
31:13and there were offshoots that become and became more violent than the original group.
31:21Charles said gangs like anti-Trende attempt to dominate an area geographically
31:25and one of the ways they accomplish that is through violence and intimidation.
31:31They are also doing violence in an environment which they're taking advantage of people.
31:36They're taking advantage of the homeless.
31:38They're taking advantage of rural America, Charles said of anti-Trende.
31:45Charles said gangs like anti-Trende are targeting rural parts of America
31:50because that's where they can maximise their gain with little risk.
31:56We don't have the infrastructure in very rural states
32:00to pull up patrols through the northern part of the state
32:03and frankly to even keep drugs from coming in
32:06and the gangs from coming in, Charles said of his state, Maine.
32:12Criminals are bad guys but they ain't stupid
32:15and so what they look for, they look for opportunities to maximise their gain
32:20with the least possible risk.
32:21Charles said he thinks the group will be eager to get into fight with Trende Aragora
32:27which is why authorities need to work fast to quash the group.
32:32I think right now their numbers are relatively modest, Charles said.
32:37If you look away from it, if you pretend that it's not important,
32:41if you appease it instead of deterring it, then it will absolutely grow.
32:45That's just the nature of crime.
32:48The anti-Trende gang has a presence that expands beyond New York City.
32:54In September 2024, a Texas woman was robbed at gunpoint,
32:58pistol whipped and tied up in her Dallas area home
33:01located in the ritzy neighbourhood of Bluffview
33:04where the average home value is $880,000 according to Zillow.
33:12The robbery happened around 10pm on September 21st, 2024
33:17after the woman had just returned home from dinner.
33:20The men involved in the incident allegedly targeted the woman in her driveway,
33:25forced her into her home, then tied her up at gunpoint,
33:29according to records obtained by Fox News.
33:31The men involved allegedly threatened to cut her fingers off.
33:36Using Google Translate to communicate with the victim,
33:40the suspects left the house with $75,000 worth of jewellery,
33:44a Ferret Garmel handbag, a Judith Lieber handbag,
33:47a Gucci purse, coins from a box inside the house,
33:51and the victim's phone.
33:54Documents obtained by Fox News at the time
33:56indicated that Manuel Hernandez Hernandez,
34:00one of the men arrested said the other men were part of the anti-train gang,
34:05something the Dallas Police Department didn't comment on.
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