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00:00E Scallispi é uma pequena, pequena comunidade, e você acha que é seguro, você vai para mow seu jardim e isso acontece para você.
00:25Não sei que alguém pode fazer isso para outro humano foi muito distúrbio.
00:30Especialmente, você sabe, em presença de um 4 anos.
00:34Ele tinha uma vida que parecia muito perfeita, e então ele tinha uma vida de horas de horas.
00:40A cara chamou e disse, ''Sniches get stitches''.
00:44A murdera de uma rua, como eu conheço, foi meu próximo-door neighbor.
00:49Eu não me lembro de qualquer coisa para mudar.
00:52Eu me lembro muito, é o sonho que eu não posso acordar.
00:57Eu não me lembro.
00:58Eu não me lembro.
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02:30Jason had said that he had discovered his son in one of the bedrooms, not far from the dining room, watching television.
02:40Jason then contacted 911.
02:42I heard the squad cars go by.
02:47I made a phone call and was informed that we had a homicide murder down in East Gillespie.
02:53I was kind of shocked about it, you know, because we don't deal with a lot of murders in McCoopin County on a regular basis.
03:02This was the residence in which Angela lived in.
03:10This is the first time I've been here since the murder happened, and it, you know, brings up a lot of memories.
03:19This house is obviously a little different now.
03:24But what I can kind of remember was when we found Angela, she was probably, I'm going to say, right in about in this area.
03:33She was laying on her back with her legs crossed.
03:37It was a very brutal crime scene.
03:42They felt like she was probably beat to death at that point in time.
03:46The whole thing is just brutal, you know, and such a terrible, terrible ordeal.
03:54But to think Angela's little boy, who was four years old, was at the house when this occurred, we were extremely relieved that he didn't harm her boy.
04:06Being in law enforcement, you know, you see bad things, and this was at the top of the list as far as bad things happening to somebody.
04:14You know, it's hard to believe that somebody would ever do this.
04:18The gun handle was found right here in this area.
04:23Investigators believe that she was possibly beat with the gun.
04:29In cases like this, you always have to look at that person that they're in a relationship with.
04:35And so we talked to Angela's boyfriend, Jason.
04:38Because of the nature of this crime, it looked like it was somebody that was really angry with her.
04:45And a lot of times when crimes like this occur, they are crimes of passion where you just, the emotions and the feelings get so overwhelming, you just don't stop.
04:55After canvases of the neighborhood, none of the neighbors really saw anything.
05:02Investigators did talk to an employee at the Cavallo bus lines who worked in the garage of the bus lines, which was right across the street.
05:10This gentleman had indicated that he did see Angela out mowing her yard somewhere around 5 in the afternoon.
05:17So that was really about the only witness we had of timeline, trying to figure out what happened that day.
05:25So, this is my Angie.
05:33And my dad took all these pictures.
05:36He loved her so much.
05:39She was just the happiest baby.
05:43This is Angie's badge for school.
05:48She had just re-enrolled right before this all happened.
05:53A waste of a beautiful life.
06:00July 30th, 2003, I got a phone call from Angie's dad.
06:05And he just told me that I needed to get there immediately.
06:10Well, I had to know what was going on, so I just kept asking and kept asking.
06:17And he finally told me that Angie had been murdered.
06:20And I'm pretty sure I hit the ground.
06:29I don't think I can even describe what it's done to me.
06:34I did anything to change this.
06:41Time does not heal all wounds.
06:44That doesn't happen.
06:45The next day, the investigators were still there processing.
06:57I was out just kind of walking the area just to make sure if anything was missed.
07:02I was over across the street where the Cavallo bus lines was.
07:08And I was walking along the road and looked down in a ditch and saw that there was a blue rubber glove.
07:17I notified the investigators, and then they came over and brought, you know, crime scene over, and they photographed and collected the rubber glove.
07:26Over in the Cavallo parking lot, they were able to find some balloon ribbon that matched up to what was in Angela's garage.
07:34So we kind of had an idea that maybe it got stuck to the foot of the suspect, and they walked towards Cavallo, and it was recovered over in the Cavallo parking lot.
07:47As I was working at Cavallo bus line, I was a cleaner, cleaning buses outside and in.
07:58The hours were at nighttime, usually from about five at night until three or four in the morning.
08:06The day after the murder at Cavallo's was quiet.
08:11Nobody looked at anybody.
08:12Nobody would talk to anybody.
08:13They would just go on about their business.
08:15It was like a totally different world in there after that happened.
08:20The cops had showed up to interview us, and it's a stressful thing to go through.
08:25It don't matter if you get pulled over for speeding or interviewed for...
08:30It's stressful.
08:33Every time I drove by Andy's house, I would go, sickness.
08:37Just that hair stands up on the back of your neck when you drive by there.
08:45Do you want to come help me?
08:49Okay, so put these patties on the here and then put those on the there.
08:55You might want to wash your hands first.
08:57I met Angie in the third grade, and she liked to do things other kids wouldn't like to do.
09:06She wasn't afraid to get messy or in the dirt.
09:08When I heard the details of how Angie was murdered, I threw up and stayed in bed for two days.
09:16My sister came and got me and took care of my kids.
09:19The last time I saw Angie, she had came to our house.
09:22She was really excited.
09:23They had just gotten a new home, and she was excited to decorate it and just start making a home for her and Jason.
09:29Angie started dating Jason around the time of her freshman year of high school.
09:34He was quite a bit older than us.
09:37When Angie told me she was pregnant and she was 17, I was shocked.
09:44I think that her and Jason's relationship at that point was hard on her.
09:49Angie and Jason dated on again, off again for eight years.
09:53And in between that time, they would make up and break up and maybe date other people, and Brad Wolf came into the picture.
10:02Angie was dating Jason and kind of Brad in the same period.
10:06There was always that Brad and Jason drama.
10:13As a young man, there's only so many times that you're going to be chosen second.
10:18Whether it was Jason being chosen second or Brad being chosen second, somebody was being chosen second and pissed.
10:24So, you'd have to ask if it was one of them.
10:36I'm Paula Zahn.
10:37Fatal Destination, Tuesday on ID.
10:48The media response to the Angela Lee murder was shock.
10:58And wondering, who is this person who would do such a thing in our small town?
11:04And is anybody else in danger?
11:09After Angie's murder, there was a rumor going around that she owed someone lots of money,
11:14and maybe that's why they did it.
11:16My reaction was that she might have been involved with something,
11:21because I had speculation that there were people doing things that they shouldn't be doing,
11:26like partying at the dealership.
11:28And I felt, my gut was like, that made sense if there was a connection to that.
11:32That was my personal feeling on it.
11:35There was a lot of fear in the community when this happened.
11:40The chatter going around the normal, well, did the boyfriend do it?
11:44Did the ex-boyfriend do it?
11:47Anytime you have a homicide like this, your first is to look at the boyfriend, family members.
11:54I mean, that's just...
11:56In police work, that's 101 in a homicide.
11:58The investigators interviewed Jason, Angela Lee's boyfriend,
12:11and tried to get a timeline from Jason as to what was going on.
12:16Jason said that normally he's home at around 5 from work,
12:21but in that particular day, he didn't get home until about 9 that night,
12:27because he had to work overtime.
12:29Well, that's really like the first time that that's ever happened.
12:32So in our minds, you know, that throws up somewhat of a red flag,
12:37so obviously, you know, we've got to track that lead.
12:40We spoke with Jason's employer.
12:44They indicated that, yes, he was at a residence installing a satellite.
12:49But, you know, it was always in the back of our mind,
12:52did he, you know, have somebody else do this?
12:56When the investigators asked the question of who he thought murdered Angela,
13:01he thought that Brad Wolf was involved in the murder.
13:04So this used to be the dining room.
13:13This is now the Santa room.
13:17It just kind of blew up.
13:20My favorite one, who I can't get all the way over to,
13:25is definitely this one.
13:28I started collecting Santas when I lost Angie.
13:32She was more than my daughter.
13:35She was my best friend.
13:38I got pregnant with Angie in between my junior-senior year.
13:45Having Angie at the age of 17 was difficult,
13:49but I wouldn't change a thing.
13:52The best thing about being a young mom was growing up with her.
13:58Angie was playing fast-pitch softball,
14:01and she really was good.
14:05She excelled at that.
14:06But she outgrew the softball and became fond of boys,
14:12and that whole season of her life started.
14:16And then at some point she met Jason.
14:19As the years went on,
14:21I found out things that were happening between him and Angie.
14:25I didn't like him quite so much.
14:28Neither of them were perfect.
14:30Nobody's perfect.
14:32Angie did date Brad Wolf during a period of time
14:38when her and Jason had split up.
14:40But I think she was a little bit afraid of him
14:43and his connections and people that he associated with.
14:47she didn't want anything to do with.
14:50But he was border...
14:53I would say borderline obsessed with Angie.
14:56When I was told that she was murdered,
14:58I remember screaming,
15:00Brad Wolf.
15:01I was sure it was him.
15:10Okay, so Angie's name I got nine days after she was killed.
15:15I got that tattoo.
15:16And the star that dots the eye,
15:17we always, we both would like,
15:19we both had an eye on our name,
15:20so we would dot it with a star.
15:22And I still do that to this day.
15:23I was Angie's best friend
15:27for pretty much our whole lives.
15:30She was like the person that,
15:34if whatever it was,
15:36she would be the one I could call first.
15:39This is the box that has the pictures that I have of Angie.
15:44So this is Angie and I had gone with my cousins
15:48to a water park,
15:50and that's where we're at, there.
15:51And this one is at our friend Melissa's house,
15:57and that's Brad Wolf in the background.
16:01Brad Wolf was just a very huge ego.
16:07He really thought that he was the man,
16:10but he didn't do anything to be the man.
16:13He was just given everything.
16:15After Angie was killed,
16:17I had heard that Brad basically bragged
16:20that he was the one that had done it,
16:24and telling girlfriends of his,
16:26pretty much if you don't do this, that, or the other,
16:31that you'll end up just like Angie did.
16:34And so Brad Wolf was a suspect.
16:37But the thing is, what was so weird,
16:40like several weeks before Angie was killed,
16:43she was let go from the dealership where she worked
16:45because of something to do with her not agreeing
16:49to whatever maybe possibly shady business
16:53they had going on there.
16:53And so then, about a week later,
16:58a guy called a friend of mine and Angie's
17:00and said, literally used the term,
17:03snitches get stitches, referring to Angie,
17:06as if she had told on some weird thing they were doing,
17:10I don't know.
17:11So once Angie was killed,
17:13I thought, for sure, that has to be who did it,
17:16because who else would want to kill her?
17:18She's been murdered,
17:19and we have somebody that has threatened her life
17:22a few weeks before.
17:22It's got to be from that, right?
17:29Brad Wolf was a suspect
17:31because of the past relationships
17:33that he had with Angela.
17:36My experiences and contacts with Brad Wolf in the past
17:39started way back when I worked as a patrol deputy.
17:44He became this person that,
17:46of interest that we knew
17:48was involved in illegal activity,
17:51but we can never really get somebody to turn on Brad
17:54because he had been connected in so many different ways.
17:57Because of this relationship
17:58that he had with law enforcement,
18:00knowing that he was always a suspect
18:02that hadn't been caught or hadn't gotten caught yet,
18:05was kind of a legend in his own mind.
18:07When the investigators talked to Brad
18:18about Angela Lee's murder,
18:20Brad had said that him and one of his friends
18:23went to a party the night before,
18:25didn't get back into town until around noon-ish,
18:29drove around town,
18:30which is something that they would normally do,
18:32and then around 5,
18:34his friend dropped him off at his parents' house.
18:36When the investigators checked out Brad's alibi,
18:41they made contact with a friend that he was with,
18:44whose name was Doug.
18:45When they talked to Doug,
18:46Doug was able to confirm the alibi,
18:50confirm the story almost to a T.
18:53But as this investigation continued,
18:57what appeared to happen with Brad
18:58was that he found a little bit of newfound fame
19:03in being a suspect.
19:06There was a few times that we had to pull Brad back in
19:09to try to re-eliminate him as a suspect
19:11because he would make a comment
19:12to a new girlfriend or a new person
19:15that he was dealing with that,
19:17hey, I'll have you killed just like I had Angela Lee killed.
19:20And so Brad kept coming back into this investigation
19:24because it seemed like he was able to use him being a suspect
19:30to intimidate people into getting his business done
19:34that he needed to get done.
19:35And so Brad was brought back to the sheriff's department
19:39and the investigators did have Brad Wolf
19:43take a polygraphic test
19:45and any questions that he had been asked,
19:48he answered according to the polygrapher
19:50as being truthful and honest.
19:54Investigators were able to eliminate Brad,
19:57but just to the extent of her injuries,
20:00it seemed like it just had to be a personal thing.
20:03And so it was very difficult to clear the boyfriend, Jason.
20:09It was always, was he involved or was he not involved?
20:12That was the question.
20:21Somebody attack me!
20:22The police thought that the person who did this to Angie
20:34would have to be someone that she knew
20:37because it was considered a crime of passion.
20:41I mean, the brutality of it.
20:43So when Brad Wolf was eliminated,
20:48I was sure it was Jason.
20:50Whether he had done it himself or had somebody else do it,
20:54I was sure that he was involved in some way.
20:59I didn't talk to him until after the funeral.
21:03Jason started talking about the way Angie looked.
21:09When he found her, he was sure that she had been shot.
21:14He said that he had seen wounds like that before,
21:19and he said he was sure that somebody had shot her right here.
21:26Jason said this all very matter-of-fact.
21:30He did not act or have the emotion
21:34that you would expect after what he saw.
21:37When dealing with young children in crimes like this,
21:51you have to be careful as to not sway them into what to say.
21:57The Springfield Advocacy Center was contacted,
22:00and they have people that are experienced in forensic interviewing
22:03that were able to contact and talk to him.
22:07about the crime itself.
22:09When they interviewed Anjalee's son,
22:12he indicated that they had been outside mowing.
22:16When they got done mowing,
22:18him and Mommy went inside.
22:22He says that he remembers seeing a guy, a killer.
22:26Then the killer goes after Mom,
22:28and Mom tells her son to run, run and hide.
22:32He indicated that the guy was the same color as his dad,
22:41and indicated that it was a big, ugly guy.
22:44At some point during the investigation,
22:47the interviewer asked if this was dad that had committed the crime,
22:55and the son had said no.
22:58Unfortunately, you know,
23:00really the only thing he could tell us
23:02that he was just a big, ugly man.
23:05So, at that point in time,
23:08Jason was pretty much ruled out as a suspect in it.
23:13But, you know, for a four-year-old
23:16to have to experience this,
23:19see this,
23:20it's just, you know,
23:21it rips you right to the core.
23:23One of the first things he said to me was,
23:41he asked me why I didn't come get him.
23:46And I told him that I didn't know.
23:50I didn't know what had happened,
23:51or I would have came and got him.
23:53It was terrible.
23:59I always say,
24:01I'm so thankful that he wasn't hurt,
24:05but he really was.
24:08And he still lives.
24:10He's a grown man now.
24:14And I feel like,
24:16when I lost Angie,
24:18I lost him too.
24:23I'd give anything to change him.
24:29Anything.
24:31This is just one part of the Angela Lee file,
24:54and there's numerous other boxes of evidence that is here.
24:58This is how big the case was.
25:01Working on this case,
25:03the most overwhelming aspect
25:04was the amount of
25:07people that we had talked to,
25:10interviewed.
25:11and we took DNA from an ungodly amount of people.
25:19During the course of the investigation,
25:22investigators had ran DNA
25:25on some of the items that they had retrieved
25:28from Angela's house and through DNA technology.
25:33Elias Montano,
25:35a local Gillespie man,
25:37had became a person of interest to talk to.
25:41His name was mentioned numerous times
25:42through different contacts that we had with different interviews.
25:46and his relationship with Angela Lee
25:49and past employment
25:50with some of the car dealerships.
25:53And through DNA retrieved from the crime scene,
25:56investigators had determined that Montano's DNA
26:00was all over different places of the house.
26:06My husband Elias and Angie
26:09worked at the car dealership together.
26:11I didn't really think anything too much
26:15when they came and told us,
26:16you know,
26:17when they initially told us
26:18that people at the dealership
26:19were being spoke to
26:20and they came to my house and questioned me.
26:24It wasn't until the police came to our house
26:26the second time
26:27and took him to the police station
26:28that I started wondering
26:30how Elias had more to do
26:33with what was going on.
26:36The police officers told me
26:37that Elias' DNA
26:39and fingerprints
26:40was all over Angie's home.
26:42I was asking Elias,
26:43when were you in Angie and Jason's home?
26:45And he kept telling me
26:46he had never gone to their home.
26:48I did not believe him.
26:50At that point,
26:51I started wondering
26:51why would they think
26:53that my husband
26:53would do anything like that?
26:55Then you start questioning everything.
26:58Do I know this person?
27:00Am I sleeping next to a stranger?
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27:31Angie was a co-worker
27:33with me at my dealership.
27:34I was the finance manager
27:36and she was the receptionist.
27:39The murder in the workplace
27:42really just kind of opened my eyes
27:43that things like that
27:45could happen anywhere.
27:46Evils everywhere.
27:48There were some bad apples
27:49in our store.
27:50There were some people that,
27:51you know,
27:51there were little cliques of people
27:53that I knew that partied.
27:55The work environment
27:56was very fast-paced.
27:57It's just moving and shaking
27:58because we moved a lot of cars
27:59out of that location.
28:01Elias, which I call him Lee Montano,
28:03he was a sales consultant at the time.
28:06I took some salesmanship from him
28:08just kind of watching
28:09how he interacted with customers.
28:10He was very smooth.
28:12When I heard about Elias being a suspect,
28:16I was just kind of shocked.
28:18I never once thought that
28:20he could have done it.
28:21It just seemed bizarre.
28:23It was so close to home.
28:32Here's your sweet tea.
28:34You're welcome.
28:36The day that Angie was killed,
28:38Lee Montano went to the ER
28:40and had a broken wrist or hand.
28:42And supposedly,
28:44Alyssa said that it was
28:46from punching something,
28:47I think, because he was mad.
28:48I don't remember exactly.
28:49but I was suspicious of him.
28:53And I even went out
28:55with Alyssa and Lee
28:56just trying to get information.
28:59He's sitting there telling me
29:00about how he knew Angie
29:01and he would never kill anybody.
29:03He would never do this.
29:03And I'm just thinking,
29:04I never said you did or might have.
29:07Why are you trying to convince me
29:08you didn't do this?
29:09So, it just really became suspicious.
29:17We looked into Lee Montano
29:19because his fingerprints
29:21were all over the furniture
29:23that was located in the house.
29:25When communicating with Mr. Montano,
29:29he would swear that he'd never been
29:30to Angela's house.
29:32He was very adamant
29:33that he had nothing to do
29:35with Angela's murder.
29:39The first time I met Angie
29:41was at the car dealership.
29:42She was hired to be a secretary.
29:46She seemed young, ambitious.
29:48She was an attractive girl.
29:50Her death was absolutely a shock to me.
29:53I remember when I got
29:54to the car dealership,
29:55I noticed there was
29:56some police cars there.
29:57When I walked in,
29:59I was pulled aside
30:00and I was asked
30:01if I had come down
30:02to the police station.
30:04I felt very nervous.
30:05You know, I'm just nervous
30:07around police officers in general.
30:10When I was at the police station
30:11and the police officers
30:13informed me that they had
30:15my fingerprints and DNA
30:17at Angie's house,
30:19I was very confused
30:21because I've never stepped foot
30:22in Angie's house.
30:24Police officers were implying
30:25that I absolutely knew something
30:27about her murder.
30:29My mind was wandering
30:30why they were pressing so hard
30:32about my DNA.
30:34They mentioned a couch.
30:37Then it clicked
30:38because we gave her the furniture,
30:40because I was buying new furniture.
30:42That's why my DNA was there.
30:43That's why my fingerprints were there.
30:45And why the police department
30:47pressed so hard
30:48on the fact of me being at her house
30:50and I knew where she lived.
30:53Investigators in the case
30:54that had talked to Montano,
30:55they had to be able to confirm
30:57what Montano was saying.
30:59So the investigators reached out
31:01to Jason and was able to confirm
31:03that they did receive this couch
31:05from Montano.
31:07And so the investigation
31:09hit another brick wall.
31:16After the interrogation
31:17at the police department,
31:18the buzz at the dealership
31:19wasn't the same.
31:21Cells started to go down.
31:22People were not being as personable.
31:24It definitely impacted the dealership.
31:26My wife did ask me point blank
31:28if I did it.
31:30And obviously I said no.
31:32When she asked me that question,
31:33of course I was upset.
31:35There was definitely friction at home.
31:37And that was probably,
31:39you know, another log on the fire
31:41of why, you know,
31:43we got divorced shortly afterwards.
31:44Through the course of the investigation,
31:49the police told me
31:51that Elias had a double life.
31:54He had a life where he had
31:55a wife and children at home
31:57that looked pretty picture perfect.
31:59And then he had a life
32:00of after hours
32:01that was not so picture perfect.
32:04And so at the end
32:06of this investigation,
32:07I did not know
32:08who I had married.
32:10We divorced.
32:11I immediately filed for divorce.
32:13After all the interviews were done,
32:20after all the DNA was done,
32:22Angie's dad had it stuck in his head
32:24that either I did it
32:25or I knew who did it.
32:26Probably frustrating
32:27on Angie's dad's end,
32:29but it was just as frustrating
32:30on my end
32:31being accused of something
32:33that I had nothing to do with.
32:35But yeah, my life was ruined
32:37all because I gave someone a couch.
32:43I guess I did it.
33:02How are you guys doing?
33:03In 2007,
33:05when we formulated this
33:07small taskforce to work
33:09no caso, eu não sabia que tinha que ir em uma direção de novo.
33:13Tinha que olhar para outras coisas.
33:15Cavalo Bus Lines com muita gente emploiada
33:18da região do Gillespie e durante o centro dos Estados Unidos.
33:23É realmente o único negócio em East Gillespie,
33:26um grande negócio, em vez, naquela época.
33:29E foi lá atrás da rua do Angelo de casa.
33:34Precisamos conseguir o Cavalo emploiado,
33:37e o Macoopin County State Attorney, naquela época,
33:40conseguiu chegar em contato com Cavalo
33:42e finalmente enviá-nos a lista,
33:44para que nós pudessem arreglar o empolgamento
33:46e tentar descobrir se alguém viu alguma coisa.
33:50Foi uma forma de forma de forma de forma de informação
33:53para ir, mas a lista foi finalmente preparada
33:56para que o investigadores pudessem olhar para o empolgamento
33:59e olhar para o empolgamento e comparar
34:01a quem tinha sido contado no dia do crime,
34:05e a quem ainda precisava ser contado.
34:08Eu estava em trabalho e me chamava de casa,
34:15e disse que eram dois detectives que estavam esperando me.
34:18E eu falei, o que agora eu vou fazer?
34:21Eu entendi, a polícia está lá,
34:25e eu disse a polícia que eu estava no ônibus,
34:30e a noite antes da mortes,
34:33tinha um mecanique parked no lado da corp.
34:36Quando eu olhei, eu vi o carro com um alto nível de velocidade,
34:41com um alto nível de velocidade,
34:42com um pedaço de cabeça,
34:43ele estava lá fora.
34:46É impossível ver um mecanique que cavalo
34:47às 10 horas da noite.
34:49Isso meio que me perguntava o que estava fazendo.
34:52A CIDADE NO BRASIL
34:54A CIDADE NO BRASIL
34:55COMO DE LA GAMEDA
34:58CIDADE NO BRASIL
34:58Nursing
34:59Girl on Girl crime can be very cruel.
35:01It gets to you.
35:04You start to hear a lot of different whispers.
35:08Something inside her possessed her.
35:11People are pointing fingers.
35:12We're going to school with a murderer.
35:13There's 43 stablers.
35:15How can a 16-year-old have that much hate?
35:19I ended up pulling the trigger.
35:20Ela vai ser lembrada como Miss Murder.
35:23Brand new Mean Girl Murders.
35:26Monday, on ID.
35:31I'm Paula Zahn, and we're back on the case.
35:35How extensive were her injuries?
35:38She had been stabbed over 40 times.
35:41Nothing was adding up.
35:43What was the name that fit the puzzle?
35:45He's one of the most evil people I've ever met.
35:48What kept you going?
35:49He needed to be convicted.
35:52How did you find the strength to get through this?
35:55There are no words.
35:57Brand new on the case with Paula Zahn.
36:00Thursday, on ID.
36:02Working as a Playboy bunny was kind of edgy, kind of prestigious.
36:08Kimmy was like a walking Barbie,
36:10but posing nude or Playboy can put a target on your back.
36:14We're more women.
36:15We're brutally murdered.
36:17Things just keep getting more and more outlandish.
36:22What a hot mess.
36:25Brand new.
36:26The Playboy Murders.
36:27Friday, on ID.
36:29Our world feels like it's fallen apart.
36:36The challenges that we're up against, they can drown us.
36:41But each of us can make a real difference.
36:43It's all about taking that first step.
36:47I'm Malati Waisen, and I've been teaching our next generations to realize their power and to create lasting change.
36:57And everyone can do this.
36:59What kind of change do you want to create?
37:00Can you help to clean up your neighborhood, cut down on waste, and help to create more circular systems?
37:07Or maybe you can join or start a community garden, grow fresh food, and create green spaces in your city.
37:15Ask your friends and family to join.
37:18As a team, we are strong.
37:21Since the age of 12 years old, I've been bringing people together to create change.
37:26And now, I'm inviting you to join us.
37:30It's time to act.
37:31We will not go home.
37:33We will not sleep until they have the person responsible where they want him.
37:39There's going to be guns involved.
37:41It's a high-risk takedown.
37:42We needed to bring it to an end.
37:44Hands up! Hands up!
37:45When the cops spoke to me, I told the police the night before the murders, around 9.30, 10 o'clock at night, we were cleaning buses about right here.
38:07I heard a car door.
38:09I look up, and it was Tony.
38:12Tony Ashby was a mechanic.
38:14And so I thought, well, what's he doing here?
38:18He shouldn't be here.
38:20The mechanics worked in the daytime.
38:22The cleaning crew was here at night.
38:23So it should only have been cleaning crew here.
38:28Tony was parked over here.
38:29We noticed him taking off at a high rate of speed with no headlights.
38:35The fact that his headlights were off was really weird.
38:39About a week later, Tony had quit.
38:41But it wasn't anything, you know, Cavalos was a turnaround.
38:45People come and go all the time.
38:47So it didn't put two and two together.
38:48At this point in time of the investigation, Anthony Ashby was never mentioned, never on our radar.
39:00We started doing the background on Anthony Ashby.
39:04He had a fairly clean record.
39:06But there was some sort of domestic disturbance that had occurred in Litchfield, Illinois.
39:13The Litchfield Police Department went to Anthony's residence.
39:17As they approached the door and they began knocking on the door, they heard a gun go off.
39:22They got the door open, rushed inside the house, took the individual down, which turned out to be Anthony Ashby,
39:32and recovered a gun that he had discharged inside the house while they were outside the door.
39:38We went over to Litchfield Police Department to see if they still have the gun.
39:44They took me into one of their office areas, pulled the gun out.
39:49Grips were missing off the gun, and the sight was missing.
39:52Early on in the investigation, we had parts of the firearm and parts that were missing from Anthony's seized gun,
40:02and the parts that were collected as evidence at the crime scene matched everything linked together.
40:18That's the hard part, trying to get everyone in the thing here.
40:22We sent investigators to Anthony's workplace to interview him.
40:29Did you know her at all?
40:30No, sir.
40:31I had a problem.
40:32And did you ever see her?
40:35Occasionally, she was outside.
40:37During the interview, he was pretty quiet.
40:39He didn't seem agitated or anything.
40:42Were you ever over by the house at all?
40:45No, sir. I had no reason to go in the yard.
40:49No.
40:49Ever into the house, anything like that?
40:52What do you think should happen if somebody, like, is responsible for something like this, Anthony?
40:58For killing it?
40:59Be dead.
41:00Same thing.
41:03What do you mean the same thing?
41:04It should be killed, too.
41:05Well, I mean, I'm married, and I was brought up never to hit a woman, so, you know, I wouldn't, you know, as far as my wife, we get into arguments.
41:18Right.
41:18But, you know, I've never even thought about it, you know?
41:21Sure.
41:21It's the way I was raised.
41:24Sure.
41:24During the course of the interview, Anthony was asked about the gun discharge.
41:29Um, I got in a little bit of trouble, and, uh, I went and, it was the deal where, uh, I got, there was a cop who knocked on the door, and God woke me out of a dead sleep.
41:42And, uh, I went and got up, I had the gun, and, dumbass, going, had to fan my thumb on it, and it was pointed down at the ground, and it went off.
41:56And, uh...
41:57The police officer was there?
41:58Yeah.
41:59Oh.
41:59That would be some drug.
42:01Yeah.
42:02And, um, yeah, I never shot it, other than that.
42:04And he was asked, has it ever been out of his possession, and he indicated no.
42:10So, at that point in time, we knew that he had never gave this gun to anybody else, and he'd always had this gun since, since the, uh, murder happened.
42:19Did you ever go back to Keval's late, he said at all?
42:22No.
42:23You'd never go back after doing any kind of work?
42:25No.
42:25I don't know where he's going back, right?
42:28People, um, see me, they're calling me.
42:30Once we started pushing him, pressuring him...
42:35I mean, I know everybody watches TV, everybody knows about DNA, and, you know, all that, all those scientific things work, so, I mean, um, man, you know, we're, we, we just want to treat you fairly.
42:49Right.
42:49And that's all I'm looking to do, and, and I think to myself that, that what you say is your crossroad of your life right here.
42:58I believe, I, you know, I, I totally, sincerely believe that, that there's, that there's extenuating circumstances, and, you know, all I want to do is say, okay, you know, what are they, and, and, and talk about me.
43:12You know, listen, see, uh, what the story, you know, what yours, what, what can you tell us?
43:18Because we know other things, we, we know other things, yeah, but we learn a lot of things, I mean, who wouldn't help it?
43:26I'm not coming down here and trying to, to pull any soil pieces in some kind of, we didn't pick your name, but we're trying to face.
43:33It's at a point in, in life, where it may fall a difference, right, people?
43:38Then he became more agitated.
43:40Sir, I had nothing to do with this, and, uh, I feel like if, if I'm not under arrest, then, uh, we can have a talk with a lawyer or whatever.
43:51Am I, am I free to go?
43:52Well, am I, am I free to go?
43:54Because this is ridiculous.
43:55I, I said I did not do it, and I'm, I feel like I'm being harassed right now.
44:00You do?
44:00Yes, I do.
44:01Why do you do that?
44:02Because I, I, you guys are hammering me.
44:04Oh.
44:05So, are, are, are we done?
44:06Um, yeah, I think you can, you can turn the tape off on you if you want to.
44:12Yeah, because I, I had nothing to do with this, I, you know.
44:16With DNA on some of the, the items that they had retrieved from the gun that was in Anthony Ashby's possession, um, they had obtained DNA that, that matched Angela Lee's DNA.
44:29That was the nail in, in Anthony's coffin.
44:36When I first heard that Tony was arrested for the murder, I about crapped my pants.
44:44I couldn't read it out of Tony that he was a violent person.
44:48Tony didn't show no violence.
44:50I cried and cried.
44:57I was happy and sad, relieved, a huge relief, like the world lifted off my shoulders.
45:07It was very close to him not ever being caught, very grateful.
45:11Ashby ended up killing Angela Lee, most likely looking in the windows, had somehow fantasized about being with her, had tried to take that fantasy one step further, and had gotten caught.
45:28At the point that him getting caught in some way in his mind, he felt that he could explain it away to her to make it okay.
45:36And when he found out that he couldn't make it okay, he had to kill her.
45:40When he took the 33-year plea, I felt cheated.
46:03I felt like Angie was cheated.
46:05I did not feel that was justice.
46:06He'll get out when he's 60 years old.
46:09I fear certain things, like when he gets out of jail.
46:11What if I did see him at a gas station or something?
46:14Just the thought of even running into, I can't even imagine.
46:19I don't know what that would be like.
46:23Angie's murder changed me by the way I look at people now.
46:26The way I trust people, the way I process through my head, are you the next killer that's coming around?
46:32And before that happened, I wouldn't look at you like that.
46:36This kind of affected me in a lot of ways.
46:40It has made me understand that you never give up.
46:43You never stop working on the case.
46:47My heart is so broken from losing my daughter.
46:51Not just losing her, but the way that I've lost her.
46:56And I miss her.
46:57There's not a day that I don't wake up and realize she's not here.
47:04And I'm never going to see her.
47:08It's the nightmare that I can't wake up from.
47:11I'm Paul.
47:18I'm Paul.
47:18I'm Paul.
47:30Don't be happy about it.
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