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00:00I want to talk about numbers, an hour and 42 minutes, that's how long it took for me to birth
00:10one of the most beautiful and perfect children I want to love.
00:19April 24th, 2013, 3.18pm.
00:26And when I got the news that my beautiful, vibrant, brilliantly determined young woman had not been heard from for five days.
00:38Our plight was not going to be another black girl just thrown against the wind.
00:45She didn't give up her life. She was taken from it.
00:56My name is Karina Martin.
01:12I am the proud mother of, um, four beautifully talented young ladies.
01:21Shakwanika, she's the oldest.
01:24Shaharez, Alicia,
01:27and finally, Ori.
01:31Two of my children.
01:36Am I here?
01:38My girls, they were fabulous.
01:46They were girls.
01:48Um, so any mom out there who has girls understands that.
01:53They were girls.
01:55You have your ups, your downs, your ins, your outs.
01:58But for the most part,
02:01I did the best I could.
02:02A black single mom raising four black girls is extremely hard,
02:10especially in the, um, late 80s, early 90s, mid 90s.
02:16Um, you, you have to teach so much,
02:20and you have to teach them how to eliminate so much
02:26so that, um, people don't see your skin color,
02:32but they see you.
02:43My name is Ori,
02:44and I'm 23.
02:47My sisters,
02:49I always wanted to be around them.
02:50I always wanted to hang out with them.
02:51I thought they were really cool.
02:52Shaharis was into a lot of extracurriculars.
02:58She did violin, was a cheerleader.
03:02And Alicia was into extracurriculars, too.
03:05She would do, like, um, tutoring.
03:06I think she did volleyball in middle school.
03:10My older sister, Nika.
03:13I was always with Nika.
03:14Always, always, always.
03:16That was my girl.
03:17She was happy to be a mom.
03:22It motivated her to want to do more.
03:27At the time,
03:28she was going to college in Hartford for nursing.
03:33My Jaya, we call her Mai Mai.
03:36I give all my grandbabies little pet names,
03:40and Mai Mai was my baby doll.
03:42Wave to the camera.
03:44With all my girls.
03:52Ori's the closest one that looks like me.
03:56But Alicia was the closest one that acted like me.
04:01Alicia, she was my bullet.
04:03She lit up the room.
04:06She was that young woman, like,
04:11when they walk in and everyone's head just turns and, like,
04:14who's that girl, you know?
04:17She was that girl.
04:23It was towards the end of the school year.
04:28So there was a lot of senior things going on.
04:31And I knew Alicia was dating someone.
04:33So, um, I'm like,
04:36well, who are you seeing, Alicia?
04:38You know, we called her Lili.
04:39So I'm like, Lili, um, who are you seeing?
04:42You know?
04:43Um,
04:45Mom, I need you to sit down.
04:47Oh, God.
04:51My biggest fear is having a pregnant teenage daughter.
04:56So imagine my pleasantry when I find out that it's not because she's pregnant,
05:04but that she's seeing another guy.
05:07Jermaine Richards.
05:08And he happens to be a little older.
05:11What do you mean a little older?
05:13What is he, 19, 20?
05:16You're 17.
05:17I'm almost 18, Mom.
05:19Lili said that, you know, he was going to school for, um, for nursing and working too.
05:28So he worked a lot and would go to school.
05:32So when he had time off, he would like to just spend it with the two of them.
05:40So I'm like, well, you've already been seeing him.
05:43There's not too much that I can do.
05:46You'll be 18 in a few more months.
05:49You'll be heading off to college.
05:51I'm not going to be a deterrent for what makes her happy.
05:56My focal point is making sure she got to college.
06:07When she went to Eastern, she was super excited.
06:10Um, we got all these gidgets and gadgets.
06:12Everything was pink.
06:12All of her stuff was pink.
06:14Um, it reminded me of, I don't know if you ever saw the movie Legally Blonde,
06:17when L moved into, what was it, Harvard, and she had all her Barbie stuff.
06:22Like, it was, that was literally like what it was.
06:25Eastern is a state college.
06:27She was majoring in psychology and minoring in biology
06:32so that she could just, once she graduated, go straight to med school and start studying psychology.
06:39My name is Sade Burke.
06:48I attended Eastern Connecticut State University, where I studied sociology, and I was a very close friend of Alicia Wiley.
06:55We met through our leadership organization called Females.
07:01We had a lot in common, and we both like to have fun, we're spontaneous, and we're both goofy, so that's probably why.
07:11She felt like a school sister, almost, because, you know, most of my time was at Eastern, away from home.
07:21The only time I really spent at home was during the holidays and sometimes the summer, but yeah, she was like a sister.
07:27It was a normal day.
07:43Me and Alicia had plans to hang out that night.
07:45We were hanging out like every day, so that wasn't anything new.
07:48It wasn't until 9 or 10 or something at night, and I was in my dorm, and I randomly received a text of her upset.
07:58It basically said, you know, I'm coming to your dorm, I need a drink.
08:03So my response to her was, what?
08:06And then, um, she didn't respond.
08:09And I didn't press that issue because I was just like, you know, maybe she just needs alone time, even though I knew that was out of her character, because if she says she's coming over, she's coming over.
08:23The next morning, I expect a text message from Alicia, and I don't receive one.
08:29So automatically, an alarm is going off in my head, telling me something is not right.
08:35I get a phone call from campus police, and I find out that Alicia had not been seen on campus since around 12 o'clock, April 20th, Saturday.
08:56And I was on the phone for 45 minutes.
09:19Trying to convince them that my daughter didn't walk away from her life.
09:24There's something very sinister was going on, and I don't know what it was.
09:32Tuesday on ID
09:42My mom called me, and she's like, did you talk to Alicia?
09:56And I'm like, no.
09:58And she's like, well, when was the last time you talked to her?
10:00And I'm like, I don't know, maybe like a week ago?
10:02And she's like, okay.
10:05The police told my mom that my sister had been missing for a couple of days.
10:09I was like, just give me a second.
10:11I'm going to try to call Jermaine.
10:13So he didn't answer my phone call, but then Nika called.
10:17And Nika's like, hey, Jermaine, have you talked to my sister?
10:21And he's like, no.
10:23And she's like, oh, okay, well, you know, the cops said that she's missing, and they haven't seen her in a couple of days.
10:31One of the girls at school reported her missing to the campus police.
10:35And he's like, oh, wow.
10:36Wiley's described as 5'6", weighing 150 pounds.
10:43The sophomore was reportedly last seen on the Willimantic campus.
10:47It wasn't until 1 o'clock Wednesday afternoon that police here on campus were notified Wiley was missing.
10:53My name is Sergeant Forrest Ruddy, the Connecticut State Police, Eastern District Major Crime Squad.
11:05When Alicia's mom filed the missing person report to the university police at Eastern University,
11:11they reached out to the state police.
11:15She was last reported seen on campus.
11:23Willcom Hall is where she was staying.
11:25There was a dad video there of her walking through the lobby.
11:33And then getting into a car with her boyfriend.
11:39We interviewed her roommates, her classmates, her professors.
11:45From there, we continued on interviewing multiple business, canvassing the neighborhood.
11:53The way the investigation developed, the boyfriend's story wasn't adding up.
11:59He claims that he dropped her off on Main Street down near the Dairy Queen at Exxamark gas station.
12:11We asked him to show us where he dropped her off.
12:14I'm kind of concerned that why wouldn't you drop her off at the campus,
12:18like you usually do every other time you brought her back there.
12:20So he said that they had a little bit of an argument.
12:23They had words.
12:23So she wanted to get out of the car, so we dropped her off.
12:28So detectives went down there, canvassed the area,
12:31also looked for any video that came out at Dairy Queen or the Exxamark gas station.
12:37That didn't really further our investigation.
12:40We also expanded that research out to the city of Willimannock for any businesses
12:46along the route that we theorized she would take to get back up to the campus
12:52and any other businesses along mostly the Main Street where the businesses were,
12:57but on the side streets, too, if there were some local restaurants or bars or whatever,
13:01we checked to see if they had any video.
13:04Unfortunately, she didn't show up on any of that as well.
13:06Okay, now we have to go back to the last person she was with.
13:19The cell phones were a key for us.
13:22All the different cell towers that Jermaine Richard's cell phone was hitting off of.
13:26That's how we were able to plot his movements that night,
13:30and that gave us a search area.
13:32It was approximately 70, 75 miles, so that's a lot of area to search.
13:45We started at the university, and then statewide from Willimannock down to Bridgeport.
13:53Obviously, the news media was covering it pretty heavily.
13:56How you doing?
13:57A tearful mother wraps her arms around a man she doesn't know,
14:01but he showed up to help.
14:03To the individuals out there that know something,
14:07even the individual that feels selfish enough to keep Alicia from us,
14:14can you see what her absence is doing to all of us?
14:22I firmly believed that I was going to bring my daughter home.
14:33And if I had to knock on every door in the state of Connecticut or whatever,
14:38I was going to do it.
14:40But I want people to know,
14:43you took the wrong black girl.
14:44This is not a young lady who would walk away from such a life.
14:51This is, however, a young lady who is full of life,
14:55full of energy,
14:57and full of the hope that her future is bright.
15:03I am asking.
15:05I am pleading with the public as a mother
15:08who wants her child home.
15:12You know, this has been going on at this point since April 20th,
15:22so this is pretty much the rhetoric every day.
15:24Come home, see that she's not there,
15:25and then be hopeful for the next day.
15:30I turned 16.
15:31May 16th, actually, was my birthday.
15:34And I remember coming home,
15:37and I was just like, you know,
15:39I was just saying to myself, like,
15:41I hope my sister's there.
15:42Like, that'd be the perfect birthday gift.
15:43Like, I hope my sister's there.
15:44And I walked in, and she wasn't there.
15:48That was literally the only thing that I wanted.
15:51I was just so distraught.
15:52I was just so sad.
15:54And I just burst into tears.
15:56So I was up in the city of Willimannock,
16:16and I get a phone call from the K-9 unit supervisor
16:19down in Trumbull.
16:22So I traveled down here as fast as I could.
16:26Next thing I know,
16:28I get a phone call from my daughter, O'Reay.
16:32And she's screaming,
16:34Mom, they found her.
16:39And she's like,
16:40there's this article that's saying that they found Liz,
16:43and they said, no.
16:45No.
16:46They would have called us first.
16:49It was put out in the news
16:51that human remains have been found,
16:54but unfortunately, we can't tell the family it's her.
16:57We have to confirm through the lab,
16:59through her DNA.
17:00I get a call.
17:15I don't know what time it is,
17:17but the voice on the other end says,
17:20we're coming,
17:21and we have something to talk to you about.
17:24And they said, no, you stay right where you're at.
17:28I don't want to hear.
17:29And they said, we have to come.
17:30I don't want to hear.
17:33I don't want to hear.
17:34I don't want to hear.
17:36I don't want to hear.
17:36The police chief
17:38arrived at my doorstep
17:405-13 May 3, 2013,
17:46to deliver the news
17:55Ela não só não era uma criança, mas que ela ainda tinha uma parcial remédia, porque ela não era morta, ela era desmembrada.
18:13A monstera cuta-a-roupa e threw-a-roupa no trash.
18:19I'm sorry.
18:42Can I take a...
18:43I'm sorry.
18:4920-year-old Elisa Wiley's boyfriend was arraigned for her murder and kidnapping.
19:09I'm Joe Corradino.
19:19In the matter of the state against Jermaine Richards, I was the lead prosecutor on that case.
19:24My first meeting with Joe, I had to let him know, I expect to have results.
19:38There was no doubt in my mind that it had been Jermaine Richards.
19:43He just does not sit well with my soul.
19:45There was substantial, circumstantial evidence that supported a guilty verdict.
19:53But we didn't have direct evidence.
19:56We had no confession.
19:57We didn't have the defendant's DNA of the crime scene.
20:00We didn't have a video of him committing the offense.
20:05This case was not going to be easy.
20:07Justice needs to be served.
20:12I made a vow
20:14that with every ounce of my breath
20:21that is within my body
20:24my growth will not be forgotten.
20:28In our society, you have to work extremely hard as an African-American
20:53so that people don't see you as an African-American.
20:57They don't see you as an African anything.
21:01They just see you as an American.
21:07I think that there is a bias in the media.
21:12A wealthy socialite gets murdered.
21:14It's all over the news.
21:16A young African-American woman who is trying to get ahead in life by going to college,
21:21who comes from a family of hardworking people.
21:26It doesn't get considered news by the mainstream press.
21:32The Bridgeport newspaper consistently ran a photograph of her.
21:37That picture didn't seem to be the person
21:40that I was beginning to experience in speaking with her family.
21:43And so I chose another picture of her
21:45that I used throughout the trial.
21:47And in that picture, she has this beautiful, warm smile.
21:51And you could see that she was an engaging person.
21:57So I love Joe Corandino.
21:58I love him.
21:59When he said,
22:01I read this file.
22:03And I got daughters.
22:07My daughter's in school.
22:11That could have been my daughter.
22:13When he said that, he had me for life.
22:27We were just sitting, waiting to be called.
22:29And all of us, and I hear Shackles.
22:32And we turn, because I'm sitting next to Karina.
22:35And everyone's emotional.
22:38Everyone's on edge.
22:39And hearing Shackles, I turn,
22:42and I see Jermaine, and my heart drops.
22:45Not only do I have to watch this monster
22:49get escorted past me
22:53to go into a courtroom,
22:57but I have to hear his family members saying,
23:06the worst words I heard,
23:11we know you'll be home soon.
23:14While I'm sitting there,
23:22and every day,
23:24I'm scared to answer the phone
23:27because I'm afraid that they're going to tell me
23:29they found another body part of my job.
23:35It didn't make sense to me.
23:37You know, him killing my sister
23:39was just like, literally, why?
23:42We presented a lot
23:49of very little facts,
23:52which we believed
23:54made out a very detailed mosaic
23:57of a well-thought-out plan
24:00with a view also towards introducing
24:02consciousness and guilt.
24:04Then we find out that he's much older
24:07than he was supposed to be.
24:08I think he was, like, 30-something,
24:10like, early 30s,
24:11and we thought that he was, like, mid-20s.
24:13Then we find out that he's got dating sites,
24:17aliases on dating sites.
24:18He had this pattern of jealousy.
24:23He had to check on her all the time.
24:25Jealousy is a very strong motive
24:27for a domestic-type homicide.
24:30And on one occasion,
24:36about a month before Lili disappeared,
24:39her sister and brother-in-law
24:41received a call from her
24:43in the middle of the night.
24:44They drove down from Waterbury
24:46to Norwalk to pick her up.
24:49And in the car, she was upset.
24:51She was agitated.
24:55And she told her brother-in-law
24:58and her sister
24:59that Jermaine had tried to choke her.
25:05He was very domineering,
25:06and she felt like she couldn't be herself
25:09or do the things that she wanted to do.
25:13He made comments in some of his text messages
25:16to some of his friends
25:17that I can't believe she's breaking up with me
25:19over social media or text messages,
25:21and that just infuriated him.
25:23And, you know, again,
25:24if he couldn't have her, no one else was.
25:28It's a circumstantial case.
25:30It's the classic Occam's razor.
25:33The simplest explanation is the best.
25:36In accounting for all the pieces,
25:39it pointed toward Jermaine Richards
25:41as the person responsible
25:42for the disappearance of Lili.
25:47I was completely shocked
26:04that we got a home jury.
26:07And I'm up there bawling
26:09because I'm like, okay,
26:12it's really unheard of
26:14that you get a second trial.
26:16Mika and I just knew it was Jermaine.
26:25He thinks that he's gonna get away with it,
26:28but Joe was super adamant
26:30they were gonna try him again,
26:31so we're like, all right,
26:32they're gonna get him the second time for sure.
26:33I was devastated.
26:49I was broken after trial number two.
26:53I'm like, okay,
26:54the state's gonna take their stance
26:56that they're just gonna leave it
26:57at a home trial, you know?
27:00And, um, no.
27:05Joe said, oh, no.
27:07We're doing number three.
27:09And I'm like, shut up.
27:11I didn't know Anthony too much.
27:21My mom wasn't too happy about it.
27:23She just didn't like him.
27:24So I was like, well,
27:25I see what you're saying,
27:26but at the same time,
27:27she's a grown-up,
27:28so you kind of got to let her
27:29do what she wants to do,
27:30whatever, she'll figure it out.
27:31She's a smart girl.
27:32And then, um,
27:35we were about three weeks away
27:36from the third trial for Alicia
27:38when something terrible happened
27:41that just didn't make any sense.
27:51August 18th,
27:53while we were waiting
27:55for trial number three to start,
27:59I had an early morning doctor's appointment
28:02and I've never seen it rain this hard
28:06where the rain was bouncing back up.
28:10I'm sitting in the car
28:12waiting for this monsoon to stop
28:15and I get a phone call.
28:20It's 10-08.
28:25I am looking for, um,
28:31Karina Martin.
28:36This is she.
28:41Do you know a
28:43Shaquaniqua, Brody?
28:51It's a Shaquaniqua.
28:52Yes, that's my daughter.
28:57Where are you right now, ma'am?
28:59Who are you?
29:02Oh, I'm Detective
29:04so-and-so, such-and-such.
29:06Okay.
29:07You said, ma'am,
29:08are you who?
29:08I'm begging him, please, whatever it is,
29:20just tell me, please.
29:23He says, ma'am,
29:25if you're not home,
29:27I need you to go home
29:28and we will meet you there.
29:30What normally is a six-minute ride
29:37seemed like hours
29:40for me to get home.
29:47My mom gets home,
29:48she's, like, distraught.
29:49She's, like, in tears.
29:50So I'm like, well, what happened?
29:50And she's, like,
29:54the cops called me,
29:55but they're telling me
29:56they can't tell me anything
29:57until they get here.
29:58Officers are on their way here.
30:02So I turn on the news,
30:04and I'm, like, I'm looking,
30:06and I finally find this thing,
30:08and it's a car crash,
30:10and the car rolled over,
30:12and it looks just like Nika's car,
30:15and I'm, like, oh, my God, my baby.
30:20It was a little while.
30:23It was probably like an hour and a half
30:25before they even got to my mom's house,
30:26and my mom is there.
30:28My stepdad is there.
30:33And he says, ma'am,
30:36I regret...
30:37I regret...
30:40I regret to inform you
30:52with a no-shot of hope.
31:10Your daughter was shot
31:12in the head
31:16because we've apprehended the suspect
31:20because it was our live-in boyfriend.
31:30It starts Friday the 27th of June
31:33on ID.
31:40Late this afternoon,
31:46Waterbury police identified the victims
31:48as 29-year-old Chakwanigua Brody.
31:52What?
31:53You know, like, and...
31:55So I'm just, like, looking at them,
31:57like, trying to take in the information,
31:58so I'm trying to, like, breathe
32:00and, like, calm down,
32:01and my stepdad says again.
32:05My mom goes, where's the kids?
32:07And I was, like, oh, yeah.
32:09Where's the kids?
32:10And he's, like,
32:11well, what's the oldest one's name?
32:14And I was, like, Myjaya.
32:15That's Myjaya.
32:17Pay attention.
32:18Thank you.
32:19And he's, like,
32:21oh, she's gone, too.
32:22And I'm, like,
32:23what the hell?
32:26Police were called to the grizzly scene
32:27at just after 9 this morning
32:29as stunned neighbors
32:30waited for word
32:31on this double homicide.
32:34I saw it on the news,
32:35and it's, like,
32:37oh, my God,
32:37this poor woman,
32:38this poor family.
32:42I said to myself,
32:43oh, my God,
32:45what a loss to have to bear.
32:47To lose one child
32:49is...
32:50should never happen to anyone.
32:52But to have to bury
32:53two children
32:54and a grandchild,
32:55it was kind of overwhelming.
32:58All-day investigators
32:59could be seen
33:00making their way
33:01in and out of a crime scene van
33:02parked next to the apartment
33:04as detectives
33:05search for their suspect,
33:07eventually nabbing
33:08Anthony Rutherford
33:09this afternoon.
33:18They had already had
33:20Anthony in custody.
33:22They were looking
33:23for my sister's car.
33:25He was just sitting
33:26in the car.
33:28They found the gun in there,
33:30so they took the whole thing,
33:31like, as evidence.
33:32I was like,
33:38I've been here before,
33:40and I don't want
33:40to think like that,
33:41but I really feel like
33:42this is not going to end well.
33:45But I just kind of saw her,
33:47like, going on,
33:47like, a downward spiral,
33:49having Anthony be around,
33:50and there was just
33:51different things in her life
33:52that had changed.
33:54Like, nursing was her thing,
33:56so she was a CNA
33:56for a long time.
33:58Now she's working
33:59at a gas station.
34:00and she just seemed, like,
34:02kind of unengaged,
34:03like, in life.
34:05One of the last conversations
34:06I had with my sister,
34:08she called me because
34:10my mom and the boyfriend
34:12had gotten to this, like,
34:13verbal argument,
34:14and I said,
34:15if he's going to talk
34:15to your mom like that,
34:16how do you think
34:17he's going to treat you?
34:17you need to be careful.
34:23I wasn't told
34:24about all the evils.
34:28The one thing you need
34:29to do is turn
34:30to your children
34:31and say,
34:32this is not
34:33what I want for you.
34:38With Alicia and Jermaine,
34:40it was kind of like,
34:41all right, well,
34:41they've been going out
34:43for a long time,
34:44so whatever transpired
34:46throughout those years,
34:47who knows?
34:49With Nika,
34:50this gentleman
34:51only was in her life
34:53for a very short time.
34:57It was just
34:58a lot of emotions,
34:59anger,
35:01disappointment,
35:03hurt.
35:05It was hard to try
35:06to focus on anything.
35:08It was a lot going on,
35:09and we still have to go
35:11to this third trial,
35:12you know,
35:14for Jermaine and Alicia.
35:15So I just tried
35:16to just get through
35:17the days, honestly.
35:30Jurors are being selected
35:31for the third trial
35:32of Jermaine Richards,
35:33a Bridgeport man
35:34accused of killing
35:35and dismembering
35:36his girlfriend.
35:37The first two trials
35:38ended in mistrials
35:39after the jury's deadlocked.
35:41So in preparing
35:42for the third trial,
35:44we sat back
35:46and we did an assessment.
35:48We decided to take
35:49a different tack.
35:50We always saw it
35:52as a domestic violence case,
35:54but we didn't highlight that.
35:56We actually brought
35:57an expert witness
35:58to talk about
35:59the dynamics
36:00of domestic violence
36:02relationships,
36:03and that they could use
36:04to consider
36:05in coming to a verdict.
36:09of the case.
36:10We were talking about
36:11the truth.
36:11We were talking about
36:12the truth.
36:12We were talking about
36:13the truth.
36:13My name is Brenda Westbury.
36:14I am an adjunct professor
36:16at Eastern Connecticut
36:17State University.
36:18I happened to meet Karina,
36:20and there was
36:21this instant connection.
36:22We just talked about
36:24where we were in our lives,
36:25what we were doing,
36:26and, you know,
36:27my heart just went out
36:29to this woman.
36:30I teach a course called
36:32Violence in Relationships.
36:35I think of the words
36:37that are often uttered
36:38when it comes to
36:39situations like this.
36:40Why don't you just leave?
36:41Just get out.
36:42Just go.
36:43It's not that easy.
36:45On average,
36:45it takes five to eight times
36:47for a woman to leave
36:49a relationship.
36:51People act aggressively
36:52when they feel
36:53they're losing power
36:54or they're losing control.
36:55When you leave
36:58the relationship,
36:59that's the most volatile time
37:01for the perpetrator
37:02and the offender.
37:03If I can't have you,
37:05no one else will.
37:08Richard's previous
37:09two trials here
37:10ended deadlocked.
37:11Today, both sides
37:12made their final push
37:14to sway the jury.
37:15We have a rule of thumb
37:17that if we try the case
37:19three times
37:20and we don't get a verdict,
37:23we're persuaded
37:24that there's not
37:27enough evidence.
37:28So we would not put
37:29the victims
37:30and their families
37:31through more than
37:32three trials.
37:34They don't have
37:34any evidence of blood.
37:36They don't know
37:36where the crime scene
37:37happened.
37:38They don't know
37:38how it happened.
37:39They don't know
37:40when it happened.
37:41They don't have a weapon.
37:43They have nothing.
37:44I'm thinking to myself,
37:46you know,
37:47I don't know
37:48what's going to happen
37:48if they come back
37:50not guilty.
37:51I'm so worried
37:52as to how Karina
37:54will feel.
38:02What say you,
38:03Mr. Fourperson?
38:04Is the defendant
38:05guilty or not guilty
38:06of the crime of murder?
38:08Guilty.
38:09I couldn't believe
38:11that they had
38:12come back guilty.
38:13But in attaining
38:16that result,
38:17the next thing
38:18I thought of
38:19was Karina
38:20and how she would feel.
38:23She still has
38:24lost three family members.
38:26So, yeah,
38:28we've brought in
38:29a guilty verdict,
38:30but it doesn't
38:32change anything.
38:33there's no winning
38:37in murder.
38:41It's not like
38:41they're going to
38:42come back to life.
38:44The message
38:45must be sent
38:46that this type
38:46of behavior
38:47cannot and will not
38:48be tolerated
38:49in a civil society.
38:55I did go
38:56to the sentencing.
38:57I'm just,
38:58I'm numb
38:59at this point.
38:59I don't even have,
39:00like,
39:00I can't even give
39:01this any more
39:02energy than I've
39:03already given it.
39:05But then we still
39:05had to deal with
39:06Nika and Majaea's
39:08trials.
39:27You can't even imagine
39:29how hard it is
39:30to sit here
39:31as a mother
39:32and a grandmother.
39:35The defendant
39:36came in this
39:37relationship
39:37knowing that
39:38my daughter
39:38had already
39:39suffered a great
39:40loss
39:40with the murder
39:41of her sister.
39:45I can't speculate
39:46about Rutherford's
39:48background,
39:49but to talk
39:50in general terms,
39:50from the moment
39:51we are born,
39:52we are socialized.
39:54And if you've been
39:54socialized to learn
39:55and understand
39:57that beating someone
39:58is acceptable,
39:59well, then that's
39:59what you're going to do.
40:00the trauma
40:01you've experienced
40:02in your lifetime
40:03factors into that.
40:12Karina is now
40:13trying to create
40:14a National
40:15Violent Offenders
40:16Registry.
40:17This registry
40:18will help
40:19other families
40:20not have to go
40:21through this
40:22heinously horrific
40:23tragedies
40:24that have
40:25befallen
40:26on my family.
40:28I currently
40:29am the president
40:31and founder
40:31of a non-profit
40:32organization
40:33called
40:34Mothers of Victims
40:34Equality.
40:35This is part
40:47of my
40:48and
40:49Nikon's life's
40:50work
40:50to make sure
40:52that others
40:52had a voice
40:53when they didn't.
40:55Just trying
40:56to educate
40:57moms like me
40:59who need
41:00answers
41:01but
41:02don't need
41:04them
41:04after the fact.
41:06A lot
41:07of us think
41:07we know
41:07what dating
41:08and domestic
41:09violence is
41:10but not
41:11all of it
41:12is violent.
41:14A lot
41:14of it
41:15is extremely
41:15silent.
41:18You have
41:18psychological,
41:20emotional,
41:20mental,
41:21physiological,
41:23financial.
41:23tactics
41:25such as
41:25intimidation,
41:27instilling fear
41:27into someone,
41:29making them feel
41:30like they can't
41:30move to the left
41:31or to the right.
41:33The only way
41:34to prevent
41:35is for
41:37both parties
41:38to be aware.
41:43Because the law
41:44is not
41:44a solution
41:45to every problem.
41:47That's why
41:48people should care.
41:50Domestic violence
41:50happens
41:51to the rich,
41:52to the poor,
41:54to the middle
41:54class.
41:55Black,
41:56white,
41:57Asian,
41:57Hispanic,
41:59male,
41:59female,
42:00gay,
42:01straight.
42:02It happens
42:02everywhere.
42:06We live
42:06in a culture
42:07of victim
42:08blaming
42:08and when
42:09we blame
42:10the victim
42:10it takes
42:12sort of
42:12the heat
42:13off of
42:14the perpetrator.
42:15It takes
42:15the heat
42:15off of
42:16the entire
42:16incident.
42:17She's asking
42:18for it.
42:19It was her
42:19fault.
42:21That in
42:22itself
42:22sort of
42:23falls
42:24in line
42:25with
42:26some
42:26of
42:27the
42:27tactics
42:28that
42:29are
42:29used
42:30in
42:30keeping
42:30victims
42:32where
42:33they
42:33are
42:33in
42:34violent
42:34relationships.
42:37We're not
42:38really recognizing
42:39that this
42:40is a disease.
42:41We have
42:42the means
42:43of
42:44curing it,
42:46but we're
42:46not talking
42:46about it.
42:47if each
42:51person can
42:51just talk
42:52about it
42:53and have
42:53the
42:53conversations,
42:54you can
42:54help someone
42:55who might
42:55be going
42:56through a
42:56difficult
42:57time.
43:03Believe it
43:04or not,
43:04I finished
43:05off strong.
43:06I got
43:06great grades
43:07at the end
43:08of it.
43:09And this
43:10is something
43:10that made
43:11me feel like,
43:11you know what,
43:12I'm going to do
43:13this for
43:13Alicia,
43:14and we're
43:15going to
43:15graduate
43:16together.
43:18She's not
43:19here physically,
43:20but she's
43:20here in
43:20spirit,
43:21so.
43:28I realize
43:29now that I
43:30have a lot
43:30of control
43:31over whatever
43:32I'm going
43:32through,
43:32whatever
43:33experiences
43:33I am
43:34experiencing.
43:35I'm not
43:36wallowing
43:37in the sadness
43:38because I
43:39could be,
43:39and it's
43:40easy to
43:41get there,
43:42and once
43:42you get
43:42there,
43:42it's hard
43:43to get
43:43out of
43:43it.
43:44But because
43:45I have
43:45those days,
43:45it makes
43:46me not
43:46want to
43:46have those
43:47days every
43:47day.
43:48So it's
43:49a little bit
43:50easier to
43:51be happy
43:52because I
43:52know what
43:53it could
43:53be like
43:53to be
43:53sad.
43:58Even
43:59though they
43:59thought they
44:01had silenced
44:02my daughters,
44:05Alicia and
44:07Shakwanika
44:08live in
44:10me.
44:11my
44:12Jaya is
44:15growing in
44:16me.
44:18What you
44:19thought you
44:19took and
44:21what you
44:21thought you
44:22silenced
44:23only made
44:25them louder
44:26because my
44:31voice is
44:32theirs now,
44:33and I
44:33will sing
44:34from the
44:35rooftops.
44:35and I
44:37will
44:38see you
44:39next time.
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