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00:00Prazer britannico
00:12Glória ameiu a meia pequena comunidade em montano centralЛ montana.
00:17Na minha família há計 assim até.
00:20A gente tem macheeres e maeία dos homiciões, e a grande-grandsão,
00:25que estão aqui.
00:27I never have beenет a homicide scene before that night.
00:30I mean, this was my first major crime that I responded to.
00:35I never actually believed that somebody hunted her down.
00:42It became apparent to me real quickly
00:44that I was dealing with something out of the ordinary.
00:50Is there some nut running around?
00:53Is he intending to shoot more people or she?
00:55You don't know.
00:57Foi algo que nunca em um milhão de anos, eu acho, foi sobre o que aconteceu.
01:02E ele disse, Dan, eu vou te atirar você, em um hit.
01:05E Dan disse, você tem que fazer.
01:10Eu quero saber quem o que foi que o meu irmão foi que me matou, e eu quero saber os detalhes.
01:27A CIDADE NO BRASIL
01:57E aí
02:02Foi em februário de 2002
02:03Quando meu irmão, Richard, e eu
02:06Chegamos em Rappeljay, Montana
02:08Nós mesmos com os herzogs
02:09E eles me oferecem a trabalho
02:12O herzog farm
02:14Foi uma pequena, mas ainda
02:16Produtiva farm
02:18Eu fiz farrowing
02:22Que é helping os sals
02:24Have their babies
02:26I love them pigs
02:30There wasn't very many
02:46Employees, I think at the time it was
02:47Me and Dan
02:49So that day
02:51I was going up to feed the pigs
02:54Behind Dan's farmhouse
02:55And as I drove by
02:57I seen Dan lying on the ground
03:00Got out
03:02Walked over and
03:05Looked at him
03:06But I could tell that he
03:08Was dead
03:10My first initial feeling
03:12Was shock
03:13To like
03:14What had just happened
03:15What is going on
03:16Like you don't even have control
03:18Over what you're doing
03:20Like on autopilot almost
03:239-1-1-0, Sherry, am I going to see?
03:28Well, nobody's dead up there
03:30I didn't see anybody's dead
03:33You need to get out here
03:34Okay, okay, I need to know your name
03:36Do you see Sherry?
03:37Sherry, what's your last name?
03:39Sherry, Edward
03:39Which neighbor is this Sherry?
03:42This is Dan
03:43And what's his last name?
03:44He's from Mother's name, my friend
03:46I was in the front yard of my house
03:53Washing my patrol unit
03:55And the call came over
04:00My handheld radio
04:01So, you know, I turned the water off
04:03And took off on this
04:04Dispatch, this is 32-3
04:08I'm responding
04:09To Rappel J
04:10Regarding the person
04:11That's 10-7
04:12From 2002 forward
04:15I was the major crimes investigator
04:17Here for Stillwater County
04:19There was nobody there
04:28On my arrival
04:29I approached the body
04:31Slowly scanning the area
04:32There was a van
04:34Off to my right
04:36I did notice some tire tracks
04:39That appeared to be somebody
04:40Leaving real quickly
04:41Right over here to my right
04:42Also
04:43So I continued my approach
04:47Looking real carefully
04:48For footprints
04:49I didn't see any
04:50Then as I neared the body
04:52The door was open
04:54To the house
04:54His foot was propped
04:56Against the screen door
04:57And the screen door
04:58Was open
04:58And I could see
05:00There was a massive head wound
05:02And a big blood trail
05:04From that wound
05:05Also nearby
05:06I could see
05:07There were three
05:07Spent shell casings
05:09That appeared to be
05:10.38 caliber
05:11The bullet passed
05:15Through Levine's head
05:16Scuff mark
05:17Ricocheted here
05:18Off this wall
05:19And into that wall
05:20There's the bullet hole
05:22There
05:22We cut this piece
05:24Of sheet rock out
05:25To recover the scuff mark
05:27Of the bullet
05:28And then the sheriff
05:30And the undersheriff
05:31Removed the paneling
05:32On the far side
05:33Of this wall
05:34And the bullet was down
05:36In the framing down here
05:37This hole in the sheet rock
05:39Was recovered
05:40By the sheriff's evidence
05:41For the scuff mark
05:42On the sheet rock
05:43I went through the house
05:46To look for other
05:47Possible victims
05:48And or a suspect
05:49Did go over to the van
05:53Nobody was in the van
05:54But I did see a revolver
05:56That was tucked up
05:57In a cubby hole
05:58In the dashboard
05:59And it was a large caliber
06:01Revolver
06:02So I knew that
06:02That was going to be
06:03A part of the investigation
06:04I've lived in
06:14Rappeljay my whole life
06:15I always wanted to be
06:17A farm and ranch guy
06:19So I worked with my dad
06:21On the ranch
06:21That day
06:23That Dan was found dead
06:25Dad and I
06:27Are at the Rappeljay school
06:28There was an event
06:29In the gym
06:29And I got a call
06:32And it was Sherry
06:33And she was
06:34Pretty distraught
06:36And I couldn't hardly
06:38Understand her
06:39But she did say
06:40That Dan had been shot
06:42Because Sherry was
06:51So wound up
06:52Dad took her
06:54And Richard to town
06:55And they put her
06:56On some sort of
06:57Little tranquilizer
06:58So that she could sleep
06:59That night I guess
07:00The owners of the ranch
07:08Showed up
07:09And identified themselves
07:10That was Don
07:11And Court Herzog
07:12We wanted Court
07:13And Don's
07:14Cooperation
07:15For searches
07:16On the ranch
07:17We wanted to
07:18Keep them conducive
07:20To helping us
07:21In the investigation
07:22Don Herzog
07:27Indicated to me
07:28That he would do
07:29Anything he could
07:30To assist in the investigation
07:31He wanted to help
07:32He gave us carte blanche
07:34To search his entire
07:35Operation and ranch
07:36After that I started
07:38Speaking to Don Herzog
07:39About Dan Levine
07:41Dan could be funny
07:43But he was the kind
07:46Of a person
07:46That would shoot off
07:47His mouth maybe
07:48And make somebody mad
07:50Yep
07:51Depending on how
07:52You took him
07:53If you took him seriously
07:55What he was asking
07:59Does Dan have enemies
08:01I said
08:02I'm not sure
08:03But there was this guy
08:07Tony Binder
08:08Well that guy was a loser
08:10Somebody that Dan met
08:12But I can't tell you
08:13The circumstances
08:14Don Herzog
08:18Indicated to me
08:19That Levine
08:20Had brought
08:20Binder
08:21Out to the ranch
08:23Because
08:24Binder was interested
08:26In working out there
08:27He needed a job
08:28Levine introduced him
08:30To the Herzogs
08:31And they hired him
08:32Binder worked there
08:34For a few weeks
08:35And then did not show up
08:36On a Monday morning
08:37Evidently he'd gone back
08:39To the Billings area
08:40They terminated his
08:42Employment at that time
08:44So Tony Binder
08:51He was
08:52Noel
08:52He'd been terminated
08:53And Dan had gathered
08:55Up all of his stuff
08:56And when he showed
08:58Back up
08:59He was pretty mad
09:00That Dan had gone ahead
09:01And gathered his items
09:02Because Dan's like
09:04Here you go
09:05And Tony was like
09:06Why were you in my stuff
09:08And that it got
09:09A little edgy
09:10I do remember that
09:12Ended up being bad blood
09:14Between Dan and him
09:15Binder had told Levine
09:19When he left
09:20That you haven't seen
09:21The last of me yet
09:38On May 21st, 2002
09:41Is when we held
09:42Daniel's funeral
09:44In honored memory
09:46Daniel Charles Levine
09:48March 7th, 1949
09:51Date of death
09:52May 13th, 2002
09:54We had people
09:55That showed up
09:56That were friends
09:57From the church
09:58Some friends
09:59I think that he had
10:00Made out in Rappel Jay
10:01He just loved
10:03To be outdoors
10:03He also was
10:05Quite the gentleman
10:06Himself
10:07He's the one
10:08Who was like
10:08You know
10:09You hold the door
10:10Open for a lady
10:11Daniel was
10:12Quite the ladies man
10:14The fact that he liked
10:15To dance
10:16He was charming
10:16I don't know
10:17How many times
10:17I had seen him
10:19When we would be
10:20Out at the bars
10:20And everything like that
10:21And you'd go up
10:22To a lady
10:23And they'd go out
10:24To the dance floor
10:25And he'd twirl her
10:26Around
10:26And have tons of fun
10:29And blast
10:30And I mean
10:30I knew he
10:32He had a girlfriend
10:33Before he was
10:34Passed away
10:36And everything like that
10:37Up in Rappel Jay
10:38I don't know
10:40If it was anything
10:40Serious or anything
10:41Like that
10:42I never personally
10:43Had met her
10:44So I don't know
10:46But he told me
10:46About her
10:47There was an indication
10:57That Levine
10:58Always thought of himself
10:59As a ladies man
11:00There was a rumor
11:02Going around
11:03That Levine
11:03Was dating a woman
11:04In the area
11:05Of Rappel Jay
11:06And it came
11:08Into my mind
11:09You know
11:10Was he approaching
11:11Sherry in a sexual manner
11:13And if it were true
11:15That would be
11:17A plausible cause
11:19For a jilted husband
11:21To kill Levine
11:24With Lieutenant Joe Kenda
11:31Tonight on ID
11:33September 19th of 1980
11:47I took over
11:49As postmaster
11:49Rappel Jay
11:52Rappel Jay
11:52Has a strong sense
11:53Of family
11:54And history
11:54He was just a baby
11:58When he started
11:59This route
12:00Well nice seeing you
12:04You too
12:05Take care
12:05We have the sons
12:06And grandsons
12:08And great grandsons
12:09Still here working
12:11So you know
12:12We watch out for each other
12:14And care about each other
12:16And so
12:17After Daniel was murdered
12:19We wondered
12:19Who in our town
12:22Was capable of murder
12:25It's hard to think
12:30That anybody would kill
12:32Another person
12:32We were just
12:35Worried
12:36Fearful
12:38And scared to death
12:40Because it was just
12:42Cold blooded murder
12:43I want them to catch
12:51The bad guy
12:51Just as bad as they did
12:52You know
12:54We got an employee
12:55That's been murdered
12:56They don't know
12:57Who did it
12:58After Dan's killing
13:02I found myself
13:03Like feeling like
13:04Somebody you know
13:05Could be sneaking up
13:07On me
13:07You know
13:07Or whatever
13:08You know
13:08Like if it could
13:09Happen to Dan
13:10It could happen to me
13:12If they can warrant
13:16Killing once
13:16They can warrant
13:17Killing twice
13:18And three times
13:19Or whatever
13:19And so you just don't
13:20It just makes you uneasy
13:22We received hundreds
13:31Of tips and leads
13:32That all had to be run down
13:34The vast majority
13:37Of them
13:37Had no value
13:39For information
13:40For the case file
13:41Well Montana's
13:49With the big sky state
13:50You can see for endless miles
13:52It's beautiful out here
13:54Very quiet
13:55Peaceful
13:56We're going to my uncle's house
13:59The last time I had been up there
14:01Was maybe about two weeks
14:03Prior to his murder
14:04He had called me
14:09Earlier that morning
14:10And asked me to come up
14:12For dinner
14:12And stay the night
14:13If I did
14:15Go up there
14:16I was actually
14:17Would have been up there
14:18Either right before
14:19He was killed
14:20Right as he was killed
14:22And I could have been there
14:23When that happened
14:24So I may not even
14:24Be here right now
14:25Or right after
14:28He was killed
14:28And I would have been
14:29The first person
14:29On the scene
14:30To show up
14:31And see him
14:32I would definitely
14:37Come out here
14:38Once
14:38Twice a month
14:39Where I would
14:40Come out and visit him
14:41On a pretty regular basis
14:43And so
14:45One time
14:46I had seen an altercation
14:47Here at the house
14:49I don't remember
14:50What they were talking about
14:51But Richard Edwards
14:53Was standing
14:53In the kitchen area
14:54Next to the microwave
14:55And there so happened
14:56To be a knife
14:57On the microwave
14:58Richard had picked up
15:00The knife
15:01And threatened my uncle
15:02Saying you don't
15:04Talk to me like that
15:05I will kill you
15:06And then my uncle
15:09He said well
15:10If you attack me
15:11Then you gotta worry
15:12About my nephew
15:13So then
15:15Richard put the knife down
15:16And they kind of
15:18Were bicking her
15:19A little bit
15:19And then things
15:20Kind of calmed down
15:21He was joking
15:22Gave like a
15:23Ha ha chuckle
15:25And then had walked
15:26Out of the house
15:27It was just
15:28Random and out of the blue
15:30Don Herzog said
15:36We could search
15:37Anything on his ranch
15:38That included
15:40Levine's house
15:40And Richard and Sherry's house
15:42During the search
15:47I conducted
15:48At Levine's residence
15:49We found a note
15:53In Levine's handwriting
15:54And on that note
15:56It said
15:58She's trying
15:58To move me out
15:59She's trying
16:00To get rid of me
16:01So in my mind
16:03I knew we needed
16:04To talk to Sherry
16:05Right away
16:06My interviews
16:15With Richard and Sherry
16:17Occurred the day
16:18After the homicide
16:19At their residence
16:21When he had made it
16:24Where he separated us
16:26I was an emotional wreck
16:27We thought that maybe
16:29That there was
16:30The jealousy thing
16:31Did Dan ever speak
16:34To you at all
16:35About anybody
16:36That he was fighting with
16:38Or had problems
16:39With at all
16:40Nope
16:41Okay
16:42I just remember
16:44Thinking in my head
16:44I don't want to be here
16:45I don't want to be here
16:46I don't want to be here
16:47Is there anybody else
16:50On this earth
16:51That you know of
16:52That we might talk to
16:54About this incident
16:56Please not
16:57If you knew
16:59Who killed Dan
17:01Would you lie
17:02To protect him
17:03I could never imagine
17:08Taking someone's life
17:09Do you have recollections
17:13Of Dan having
17:14Any company
17:15At any time
17:15I've never actually
17:18Seen anyone
17:19There
17:20Okay
17:21Dan was always respectful
17:24He was always
17:24He was never flirty
17:26But I could tell
17:27That he probably could be
17:28It was made known
17:29That
17:30My life was Richard
17:32You know
17:33And
17:33Well there was no sexual
17:35Nothing between
17:36No tension
17:36No
17:37No joking
17:38No you know
17:38Nothing
17:39During my interview
17:42With Sherry
17:42She denied having
17:44An affair
17:45Of being involved
17:45With Dan Levine
17:46When we first got there
17:48My husband went back
17:49To Texas
17:50And one time
17:51I drove Dan
17:52To town
17:53And that was
17:54The only time
17:55That I socialized
17:56With him
17:56Although
17:59She told me
18:00That at times
18:01Levine would come up
18:02To their residence
18:03And use their washer
18:04And dryer
18:05Maybe once a week
18:07Or something
18:07After work
18:08So he would come down
18:10Drive close
18:10And then he would come down
18:11And drink a beer
18:12With my husband
18:13I asked Sherry's husband
18:16Richard Edwards
18:18If he owned any firearms
18:19And he told me
18:20About a revolver
18:21That was broken
18:22That he showed me
18:23And it appeared to be
18:24A .32 caliber revolver
18:25And I did view that
18:27He let me handle it
18:28It was broken
18:29And I was able to ascertain
18:31That that was not a weapon
18:32That we would have been
18:33Interested in
18:33Richard Edwards
18:51Also told me
18:53That he thought
18:54That Janice Erfel
18:56Was seeing Dan Levine
18:58I met Daniel
19:06And he came in
19:07To rent a box
19:08Because we don't have
19:09Roll delivery out that way
19:11He invited me to his house
19:13For just visiting
19:14You know
19:15We were just
19:15And then
19:17I remember
19:18In his kitchen
19:19He had a bible
19:19On the table
19:20So I thought
19:21That was nice
19:22So I trusted him
19:23I didn't ever feel
19:26That there was any romance
19:27In it
19:28You know
19:29We just were friends
19:30And he was lonesome
19:31And I lived alone
19:33And he was just
19:34Nice
19:36You know
19:36Nice guy
19:37So Daniel asked me
19:40To go out there
19:40For Mother's Day
19:41And my daughter
19:42Showed up with her laundry
19:43And wanted to play Scrabble
19:45So I had to tell Daniel
19:47To have to take a rain check
19:48Well that didn't work out
19:50Very well
19:50Because next day
19:51Daniel was gone
19:52Here's the post office
20:08On the left
20:08When I interviewed
20:10Janice Erfel
20:11The postmaster
20:13Of the Rappel J post office
20:15She told me
20:16That she and Levine
20:17Were friends
20:18And she thought
20:19He was a great guy
20:20She also stated
20:21That Levine
20:22Wanted to have
20:23A deeper relationship
20:24With her
20:25But she wasn't
20:25Willing to
20:26Enter into that
20:27With him
20:27But
20:29During her interview
20:31Janice Erfel
20:32Told me
20:33That Levine
20:34And Sherry Edwards
20:35Had argued a few times
20:37About who was going
20:37To be the supervisor
20:39Or top hand
20:40In the hog operation
20:42This is one thing
20:46I'll never forget
20:47About that day
20:48Her and Richard
20:50Came to the scene
20:51The scene of the crime
20:52Okay
20:53And she was all hysterical
20:54And carrying on
20:55And Richard's like
20:57Well maybe I need to take her
20:58To the emergency room
21:00And so
21:02I took him down
21:03To Columbus
21:03And
21:05That's when I thought
21:10She's faking it
21:11The hysteria part
21:14I thought Sherry
21:16Was faking it
21:17The series that brings you face-to-face
21:20The series that brings you face-to-face with evil returns
21:34The series that brings you face-to-face with evil returns
21:48So are you capable of love?
21:50I can pretend I'm capable of love
21:52I'm really good at pretending
21:54I beat him to death
21:56With a flashlight
21:57So you didn't want
21:59To eat her?
22:01No
22:01Trust me that I am
22:04Not insect
22:05Brian knew
22:07Evil lives here
22:08The killer speaks
22:10Tuesday on ID
22:11I was really angry
22:31Not thinking
22:33That they were ever going to find
22:35The killer
22:35I felt
22:37That there was never going to be
22:39Justice for my brother
22:40So that
22:42He could actually rest in peace
22:45Both Sherry and Richard Edwards
22:55And Tony Binder
22:57Remained suspects
22:58In the homicide of Dan Levine
23:00Binder blamed Levine
23:02For losing the job
23:04At the Herzog Ranch
23:05And Binder had told Levine
23:08When he left
23:09That you haven't seen
23:11The last of me yet
23:12Early in the investigation
23:19I interviewed Alice Evangelista
23:21Levine's sister
23:22And her son
23:23Jeffrey
23:24There was indication from Alice
23:27That Levine was helping
23:29Law enforcement
23:30In the state of Virginia
23:31He used to tell me stories
23:43About that he used to be
23:45An undercover
23:46Informant
23:49I wondered
23:50Could they have been
23:51The ones that came out
23:52And they hunted him down
23:53To be honest
23:55I didn't know
23:56Whether it was the truth
23:57Or not
23:58Jeff I spoke to your mother
24:03Earlier today
24:04And she told me
24:05Some things
24:05That your uncle Dan
24:07Had spoken to you about
24:08And I want to go over
24:09Those things now
24:10Did he ever mention
24:12Anything to you
24:13About possibly being
24:14A police informant
24:15In Virginia
24:16Yeah
24:17Do you believe
24:19What he told you
24:20Yes and no
24:22He's a storyteller
24:25He likes to exaggerate
24:27A lot on his story
24:28Okay
24:29Is there anything else
24:31You want to tell me
24:32That your uncle
24:33Related to you
24:34About Virginia
24:35He was over
24:37At a friend's house
24:38And there was
24:39Some buddies of his
24:40That was there
24:41And he said that
24:43He owed somebody
24:44Some money
24:45You don't remember
24:46The amount
24:47I don't remember
24:48The amount of money
24:49Or anything like that
24:50I know that
24:51The guy that
24:52He owed
24:53Was making remarks
24:55And that he was
24:56Going to kick him
24:57And kick his butt
24:58I guess he pulled out
25:00A gun
25:02And put it on
25:02The coffee table
25:03Of course I was
25:06Extremely angry
25:07Because I was
25:08You know
25:09Very close with my uncle
25:10So when he was murdered
25:12I was like
25:13You know
25:13He was taken from me
25:15I was
25:16Wanted to know
25:17Who did it
25:17And kind of
25:18Want revenge
25:19There was an extensive
25:21Check done by authorities
25:23In Virginia
25:23They really didn't have
25:25Any records for
25:26Daniel Levine
25:26So that eliminated
25:30Criminals in the
25:31Virginia area
25:31As being suspects
25:32In the homicide
25:34Of Dan Levine
25:34It was frustrating for me
25:38But you have to
25:41Check everything out
25:41What we needed
25:44Was one piece
25:45Of information
25:46Or a solid lead
25:48To send us
25:50In the right direction
25:51Because it was an ongoing investigation
26:02I went back
26:04To the Levine residence
26:05And conducted
26:06Another exhaustive search
26:08Through every room
26:09And we found the name
26:11On a piece of paper
26:12That appeared to be
26:12In Levine's writing
26:13And it was Karen Barker
26:15There was an address
26:16On that also
26:17And I went and met
26:28With Karen Barker
26:29And she told us
26:32That she was dating
26:33Levine at the time
26:34The first time I met Daniel
26:38Was kind of
26:39In the evening time
26:39Me and Dan
26:41Played cards
26:42And just talked
26:43And I just let him
26:44Ramble on
26:45He just needed
26:46An ear to listen to
26:47So it was kind of fun
26:49Barker's daughter
26:53Told us that
26:54Tony Binder
26:54Who was let go
26:56From the ranch
26:57Had been at her house
26:58And they had even
26:59Been in a
27:00Short relationship
27:02During the course
27:05Of the investigation
27:06I ran past
27:07Herzog
27:08Employee
27:09Tony Binder
27:10To the National
27:11Crime Database
27:12We learned that
27:14Binder had an active
27:15Misdemeanor arrest warrant
27:17Daniel was looking
27:20For another employee
27:22And Tony was looking
27:23For work
27:24Dan hired him
27:27But I know
27:28It didn't last very long
27:29Tony didn't like
27:31The hours
27:32Or Dan wasn't
27:33Paying him
27:33Or something
27:34He was talking about
27:35And he was
27:36Mouthing off
27:37And Dan fired him
27:39And he didn't like it
27:39He was mad
27:40My daughter had told me
27:43That he threatened Dan
27:45She said that
27:46He thought Dan
27:47Was trying to get him
27:48Fired from his job
27:49I was scared of Tony
27:52There was just
27:53This menacing
27:54Persona about him
27:55The information
27:57That we got
27:58From Barker
27:59I mean
27:59That opened it up
28:00Barker stated that
28:03Barker stated that
28:03She felt that
28:04It would be possible
28:05For Binder
28:07To have shot
28:08And killed Dan Levine
28:10Are you here
28:27At this time
28:29Because of our request
28:30We left
28:31Okay
28:32We're investigating
28:33A homicide
28:34And you
28:35And you've been
28:36Identified as a suspect
28:38Quit staring at me
28:40Like that
28:41That's not called for
28:43A man
28:43Why do you have
28:44Such an attitude
28:45What would you do
28:47If you were being
28:47Tired for a homicide
28:48Or being suspected
28:49As a homicide
28:50You know
28:51I would do my best
28:52If I did nothing
28:53To get it right
28:54There you go
28:55And you know something
28:56I probably wouldn't
28:58Have an attitude
28:58But to the best
29:02Of your recollection
29:03Did you ever
29:05Have any type
29:06Of an argument
29:06That was Dan Levine
29:07Oh you guys
29:10Didn't get along
29:10We did
29:11One time
29:12That's it
29:13Kind of
29:14Irritated me
29:15Just a little bit
29:15Just because
29:16That's my stuff
29:17You don't need
29:18To touch my stuff
29:19I'll back up
29:20My own clothes
29:21I'm not really
29:22A fine person
29:24You know
29:24Trying to let things
29:26Go
29:26You know
29:26Actually
29:27I don't know
29:28I just
29:28Do it all
29:29You know
29:30Strikes me
29:30As that kind of person
29:31Really
29:32Did you make
29:34Any threats
29:35Or say anything
29:36In anybody's friends
29:37You shouldn't go
29:38Kick his butt
29:38Or anything
29:39Like that
29:40You know
29:41What I just said
29:41You told him
29:43I'd be back
29:44So ha ha
29:45I think you're playing
29:46You know
29:46Right off your back
29:48Do you have anything
29:49To do with his death
29:49On my life
29:52I swear to you
29:54I had nothing
29:55To do with his death
29:56After that interview
29:59Was completed
29:59There was nothing
30:01Really that indicated
30:02That he was
30:02A hardcore suspect
30:03And in fact
30:05He was not
30:06In Montana
30:06When Daniel Levine
30:08Was killed
30:09However
30:10He did have
30:11An active arrest warrant
30:12That was valid
30:13So we placed
30:15Binder under arrest
30:17And had him transported
30:18To Yellowstone County
30:19Detention facility
30:20Several months passed
30:23And I learned
30:25That Richard and Sherry
30:26Had quit the Herzog Ranch
30:29And left
30:30But it's interesting
30:32To note that
30:33They didn't contact me
30:34Before they left
30:35Because they told me
30:37They would do so
30:38That piqued my interest
30:40In Richard and Sherry
30:41I mean why
30:42If they didn't have
30:43Something to hide
30:44Why wouldn't they call me
30:45And tell me
30:45They'd quit
30:46And were leaving
30:46For parts unknown
30:48So I went back
30:51To Janice Erfel
30:52The postmaster
30:54For the Rappel J
30:54Post office
30:55When Sherry and Richard
30:58Were preparing
30:59To leave town
31:00They had to come in
31:02And leave a forwarding
31:03Address with the post office
31:04So I looked that up
31:07And her forward
31:09Was to Missouri
31:10I was amped up
31:13A little bit
31:14And felt like
31:14We'd received
31:15A break in the case
31:16We were looking for
31:17At this point
31:20We felt we had
31:20A direction to go in
31:22And we were
31:23Making headway
31:24In the investigation
31:25So I decided
31:38And received permission
31:39To go to Missouri
31:40And interview
31:40With them there
31:42I want you to go back
31:46And recall
31:46As closely as you can
31:48And remember him
31:50It was a little while
32:02But then the nightmare
32:03Started
32:03Where I seen
32:04Dan's face
32:05Just continually
32:07Over and over
32:07And over
32:08And over
32:08And over
32:09And even now
32:13I still see it
32:13He seemed always happy
32:16And
32:16He was really
32:25A really nice man
32:26I don't even know
32:30If we went
32:31I know
32:32I believe
32:33That we went
32:33To town
32:34And got a pizza
32:35Believe
32:38That's what I
32:38I'm not
32:39I may have
32:41The night
32:41You know
32:42A couple nights
32:42Made together
32:43It's hard for me
32:45It's hard for me
32:47It's hard for me
32:47To remember
32:47I don't remember
32:48The day of Dan's death
32:54Let's go back to that
32:55I want you to tell me
32:57What you did
32:58From the time
32:59You got up
32:59That morning
33:00What I can remember
33:03What I can remember
33:03Is
33:04My same
33:05Routine
33:06Of
33:06Working
33:08And I'm not for sure
33:11If that was the day
33:12We went to town
33:13Or not
33:14Because I
33:15Don't remember
33:16I can't tell you
33:18What I've done
33:19Last week
33:19That might be
33:21But nobody died
33:22Last week
33:22Did they?
33:23I don't know
33:23Did they?
33:25Somebody close to you
33:26Die last week?
33:27Not to know who
33:28After Edward's
33:32Interview was finished
33:34I returned to Montana
33:35Empty handed
33:36I didn't have
33:37Any new information
33:38That would lead us
33:40Further down the road
33:41In this case
33:42As the investigation
33:44Slowed
33:46I was obviously
33:47Looking for either
33:49A .357 caliber revolver
33:51Or a .338 caliber revolver
33:54We didn't know
33:55Where it was
33:56But we
33:58Suspected that
33:59It might have been
33:59Thrown in one of
34:00The hog septic pits
34:02On the Herzog ranch
34:04Folks that were
34:06Around here
34:07Were the sheriff's department
34:08They didn't tell me
34:09What they were looking for
34:10But I asked one of them
34:11Well you know
34:12Do you know
34:13What caliber of gun
34:14He was shot with
34:14Well we didn't say
34:16If anybody was shot
34:17We can't divulge
34:17Information like that
34:19Well I said
34:19Really?
34:21How many people
34:21Get shot with a knife?
34:25You know
34:25But they were
34:26Pretty close mouthed
34:27About what they were
34:28Doing and why
34:29I climbed down into that septic pit
34:33And raked through
34:34The hog's fecal material
34:36And all the other material
34:38We wore thigh boots
34:42And the waist was
34:44Approximately up to our knees
34:45As a result
34:47All of our searching
34:49We did not find a firearm
34:53We did not find a firearm
34:53Several years later
35:04A person had come forward
35:07And given Missouri law enforcement officers
35:10Critical information on the case
35:13So we planned a second trip
35:16To Missouri
35:16To speak to Billy Joe Sims
35:18Billy Joe Sims
35:20Is Sherry Edwards
35:22Sister
35:23Would you please state your full name?
35:28Billy Joe Sims
35:29And your sister then is Sherry?
35:30Yes
35:31Did Sherry ever tell you
35:33About any direct threats
35:34That he made to her?
35:36Yeah
35:37He told her all the time
35:37He was going to kill her
35:38Why?
35:42Let me tell you what
35:42I believe
35:43That we all thought
35:45Happened
35:45Okay
35:46And that was that Richard
35:47For whatever reason
35:49Shot the man
35:50He was the one
35:54Who murdered the person
35:55That she knows it
35:56That she knows?
35:59Yeah
35:59She knew he had killed someone
36:00Billy Joe also told us
36:12That Richard Edwards
36:13Had been telling her husband
36:15That he had shot a man
36:17In the head
36:17On a hog farm in Montana
36:19I thought that this
36:22Is a great opportunity
36:23To re-interview Sherry Edwards
36:25Because my intuition
36:27Had led me to believe
36:29That she hadn't given us
36:30The full story
36:31Concerning what had happened
36:32To Dan Levine
36:33We needed to talk
36:35To Sherry Edwards
36:36Right away
36:36When I found out
36:47That they had went
36:47To my sister
36:47And talked to her
36:49It just made me feel like
36:51That my whole family
36:52Was going to be affected
36:53By this forever
36:54And I needed to
36:56You know
36:57I didn't want them
36:58To suffer anymore
36:59And I needed to take care
37:01Of what needed
37:01To be taken care of
37:02This is the first time
37:07That I've
37:08Talked about it
37:10Or shared my story
37:11You know
37:12Pretty much with anyone
37:13At the time
37:35I was doing really good
37:37With PCSD
37:38And I was questioned
37:40Again you know
37:41And now
37:43I was defensive
37:44Evasive
37:45It just needed to end
37:52Sherry
37:55Listen to me
37:56Look at me right now
37:56Because you are there
37:59Doesn't mean that you can
38:01Stop a crazy man
38:02From doing something
38:03Do you understand me?
38:04Yes he does
38:05No
38:05It doesn't
38:06I should have been able
38:08To stop him
38:08No
38:09But once you saw
38:10We have to know
38:13The truth Sherry
38:15He went to the door
38:19Did you walk up
38:21To the house?
38:22I was in the truck
38:23I could hear him
38:24Dan opened the door
38:26And he had a plate of food
38:28In his hand
38:29Richard said
38:31Dan I'm going to shoot you
38:33In the head
38:34And Dan said
38:36Well
38:38Do what you got to do
38:39And Richard shot him
38:41And turned around
38:45And walked back to the truck
38:45And there was nothing
38:48I could do
38:49And I was screaming at him
38:53I need to hurt my family
38:58What happened
39:03Earlier in the afternoon
39:05That made Richard angry
39:07I don't know
39:08It didn't take much
39:11To make Richard angry
39:12I can't get
39:25Dancer face
39:26He told me
39:36Over and over again
39:38That if I
39:39Ever said anything
39:40Or if I came forward
39:42That he would kill
39:42Everyone in my family
39:43And I believe him
39:46I never shared
39:52What I suspected
39:53Might have been
39:54The reason
39:55On record
39:56The reason why
39:57I thought
39:58Richard might have
40:00Killed Dan
40:01I cannot think
40:03Of anything
40:04That Dan did
40:05Or said
40:06That
40:07Could have set him
40:08Off like that
40:09I think
40:10Almost like maybe
40:11Richard was jealous
40:12Or there was some jealousy
40:13Maybe that was what
40:14And I had asked him
40:16You know
40:16Why
40:17Why
40:17I don't understand
40:18Why
40:19Just tell me why
40:20Just tell me why
40:20And he had said
40:22That he had wanted
40:23To see what it felt like
40:24Just to kill
40:26I guess
40:27Richard was a completely
40:31And totally different person
40:33After that
40:34I blame myself
40:43For not stopping him
40:44Jumping out of the truck
40:46Or you know
40:47Whatever I could have done
40:48You know
40:49I blame myself
40:50For not coming forward
40:52I blame myself
40:53For the pain
40:54For the family
40:54For not knowing
40:55You know
40:56There's
40:57There's so much
40:58You know
40:59That I feel like
41:01That I should have done
41:02I still fear him
41:06We believed her
41:15I felt like
41:15She was telling the truth
41:16And in fact
41:17I would say this
41:18Her description
41:19Of the crime scene
41:20Matched almost perfectly
41:22With what I saw
41:24When I first arrived
41:25On scene
41:26We asked Sherry
41:29Why she hadn't come forward
41:31Sooner with this information
41:32Sherry told us
41:33That she was scared
41:34To death of Richard Edwards
41:35We felt
41:36That Sherry
41:37Had been intimidated
41:38And threatened
41:39With her life
41:40We believed
41:41That Richard Edwards
41:42Would carry through
41:43With his threats
41:43Against her
41:44And at no point
41:45Was she Mirandized
41:46And we do not believe
41:48That Sherry Edwards
41:49Had anything to do with it
41:50She was not charged
41:52And we did not
41:53Consider her a suspect
41:54We also believed
41:56That Richard Edwards
41:57Was the man
41:58That killed Dan Levine
41:59So
42:02After Sherry Edwards
42:03Interview
42:04It was apparent
42:05That we had
42:06A probable cause
42:06To arrest Richard Edwards
42:08For deliberate homicide
42:09Montana Department of Justice
42:13Provided
42:13An arrest warrant
42:15For Richard Edwards
42:16Within days
42:17We contacted
42:20Texas Probation and Parole
42:22And arranged for them
42:23To have Richard Edwards
42:24Come into their office
42:25For a meeting
42:26With his parole officer
42:27And at that point
42:31In time
42:32They were going
42:32To be set up
42:33To make the arrest
42:34Of Richard Edwards
42:35For homicide
42:36While Richard Edwards
42:46Was traveling
42:46To that meeting
42:48With probation
42:49And parole
42:50He was stopped
42:51For speeding
42:52A rookie
42:53Texas highway patrolman
42:54Identified Richard Edwards
42:57And made an arrest
42:57Of him
42:58On a homicide warrant
42:59Out of Montana
43:00It was important to me
43:18To solve the case
43:19Because when a person
43:20Is murdered
43:21The assigned investigator
43:23Becomes the advocate
43:25For that person
43:26That's dead
43:27I feel
43:30Like because
43:32Of my actions
43:34And who I hired
43:35And brought into
43:35This community
43:36That
43:37I didn't do
43:39My homework
43:40Well enough
43:41Maybe
43:41If I hadn't
43:43Hired Richard
43:44And Sherry
43:45Then
43:46You know
43:47Dan wouldn't
43:48End up
43:48In the position
43:49That he was
43:50It was like
43:54A dad for me
43:54And he was taken
43:56From me
43:56He was a big
43:57Influence in my life
43:58I miss him a lot
44:01I think about him
44:02On a pretty regular basis
44:03Especially because
44:06Four days before my birthday
44:07He was
44:08He was killed
44:09So it's always
44:11A reminder
44:13You know
44:14Makes me think of him
44:15A lot
44:16You know
44:17When it does come around
44:18I felt really bad
44:23Because being angry
44:24With Sherry
44:25In the beginning
44:25Because she didn't
44:26Come forward
44:27And then to know
44:28What
44:29A dirtbag
44:30He was
44:32That Richard Edwards
44:34Was just a
44:35Dirtbag
44:35And that he deserves
44:38To be where he belongs
44:39And I'm glad
44:42That she's safe
44:43Now herself
44:44And her family
44:44Are safe
44:46That he can't
44:47Hurt anybody else
44:48Outside of prison
44:50And that he can't
44:52And that he can't
44:52And that he can't
44:53And that he can't
44:53And that he can't
44:54And that he can't
44:54And that he can't
44:55And that he can't
44:55And that he can't
44:56And that he can't
44:56And that he can't
44:57And that he can't
44:57And that he can't
44:58And that he can't
44:58And that he can't
44:58And that he can't
44:59And that he can't
44:59And that he can't
45:00And that he can't
45:00And that he can't
45:01And that he can't
45:02And that he can't
45:03And that he can't
45:04And that he can't
45:05And that he can't
45:06And that he can't
45:07And that he can't
45:08And that he can't
45:09And that he can't
45:10And that he can't
45:11And that he can't
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