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00:00:00Keep it running, studio. Keep it running. Keep it running.
00:00:21What's going on Trinidad and Tobago and the rest of the world? I'm Marlon Hopkinson and
00:00:25welcome to The Morning Edition. It's Wednesday, 7th August and thank you very much for joining
00:00:29us this morning. I hope that you had a good night and that you're with us this morning because we
00:00:34do have a very special two-hour program for you as always, as always, right? So let's check out
00:00:41to see what's happening in the Daily Express. On the front page today, ABC chairman returning
00:00:45officers will be asked to reveal their party allegiance and membership before working in
00:00:50polling stations and declare your party and Kishon Jareem in Olympics finals. Ready to go,
00:00:58Kishon Walcott urges the crowd to get behind him during the Olympic Games Men's Javelin Group A
00:01:04qualifying round and they start the France-Paris yesterday. Walcott threw 83.02 meters to finish
00:01:12sixth in Group A with an 11th overall securing a spot in tomorrow's final. Yes, so we have to
00:01:20prepare ourselves for that. Things are getting very exciting for our athletes here, all right?
00:01:28So podium pursuit, Jareem the Dream, Richards walks along the track after his second place finish
00:01:33in the opening Olympic Games Men's 400 meters semifinal heat at the Stade de France yesterday.
00:01:39Richards clocked 44.33 seconds to finish behind American Quincy Hall. Richards and Hall will run
00:01:46in today's final, yeah? So we have to, we have to get ready for that, yeah? Don't get too excited and
00:01:53get headaches and feel sick and you know, you know how you all could be, all right? So don't
00:01:59do that, all right? So let me just tell you about a very interesting, this story with the EBC chairman.
00:02:05All right, so here's what he says. Declare your political allegiance for the first time in the
00:02:11history of general elections in Trinidad and Tobago. Returning officers will be asked to declare
00:02:16their party allegiance and membership before working in polling stations. Now Elections and
00:02:22Boundaries Commission chairman Mark Ramkarasinghe said yesterday that the EBC sought external legal
00:02:28advice from a senior council who provided an opinion that the EBC can make this request
00:02:34of returning officers. Now he disclosed this during a journalism workshop series titled Enhancing
00:02:40Ethical and Effective Election Coverage hosted by the Trinidad and Tobago Publishers and Broadcasters
00:02:46Association and the Media Institute of the Caribbean in collaboration with the British
00:02:51High Commission in Port of Spain. Now Ramkarasinghe presented on the role of the EBC in elections at the
00:02:57TNT Chamber of Industry and Commerce, Columbus Circle, West Moorings. So he said the EBC selects
00:03:0441 returning officers, all right? Let me see, let me see, let me move on a little bit. He said a
00:03:10returning officer is removed if the EBC discovers they are an activist, all right? So the EBC got
00:03:15legal advice on whether it could ask returning officers to declare their political allegiance
00:03:20and also to disclose whether they were a member of any political party.
00:03:24He noted people had a right to political affiliations, all right? So that's a very
00:03:28interesting story. It's already garnering some debater. So we'll speak about that a little
00:03:36later and follow up on that for you in the next few days. All right, let's check out some more sport.
00:03:42Medal hunt. All right, so Jareem aims for podium place in 400 meter final, right? So he's looking
00:03:52good, he's looking good and I believe that he can bring home a medal for Trinidad and Tobago. Glory
00:03:58to God. I reminisced on last year. I got hurt when I was in good shape and I started out this year
00:04:04rocky. That's just to show the grace of God. Look at where I'm at now. I'm an Olympic finalist.
00:04:13No, these are his words. Last time I was a 200 meter finalist. This time around, I'm a 400
00:04:19meter finalist. Praise God. All right. All right, so we also have that. That's on the back page of
00:04:27the Daily Express today. So proud parents, Amit Sudin and Oriana Lopez, proud parents of triplets
00:04:34who were then newborns of the San Fernando General Hospital yesterday. The triplets were born on July
00:04:409th. All right, congratulations to them. Okay, so we're moving on. So it's time to remind you
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00:08:36Remember the first time that I heard this song, that song incidentally for those who don't know
00:08:41that's the merchant singing there and you know I always speak about songs like these being
00:08:50put into the school curriculum. I don't know if it is happening but there are a lot of songs in
00:08:58calypso that could be used I think in Venetian schools to inspire people and to provide the
00:09:08positive messages that we do want to meet our children because you know how we think about
00:09:13calypso and soca we always think is a jam and wine and is you know so there are great positive
00:09:21messages that I think that we should relay to our children via calypso all right so
00:09:29that's another discussion for another time all right but um we spoke speaking about educational
00:09:34issues this morning so this morning we look at the preparedness of schools and other issues
00:09:39in education as the beginning of the new school term draws closer with us this morning is president
00:09:45of the Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers Association Martin Lumpkin. Mr. Lumpkin as
00:09:49always thank you very much for joining us it's always good to speak with you sir.
00:09:55Good morning Mr. Hopkinson, good morning. Thank you again for having us on your program. Of course
00:10:03Mr. Lumpkin um well let's I know that there are a number of pressing issues that still need to
00:10:10be addressed before the opening of the new school term. Yes there are um and we would
00:10:20have highlighted and media would have highlighted quite recently is we have the area of filling up
00:10:27vacancies in both the primary and secondary school and I'm getting feedback even at the
00:10:33ECC level they have their challenges within that sector but within the primary and secondary
00:10:41schools we have the filling of vacancies and the filling of vacancies within two aspects one
00:10:49upgrade of persons who have been in the system we're speaking about assistant teachers primary
00:10:58and secondary who have their qualifications submitted to the ministry of education and
00:11:04awaiting upgrade to t1 or t3 or t2 to t3 and some of them have been waiting for years
00:11:13have instances where the teaching service commission and the ministry of education
00:11:19would have taken in new persons to fill vacancies bypassing those already in the system and you can
00:11:26appreciate and the nation can appreciate the disadvantage that that places on persons who
00:11:33are in the system waiting for them to be confirmed in the position of t1s or t3s.
00:11:41Recently the ministry of education this commission would have added filling off vacancies
00:11:49to what could be government primary schools we haven't spoken about the denominational schools
00:11:55as yet however the process was stopped mid-flight while they were conducting interviews
00:12:07we were contacted when we reached out to the ministry of education we met with them shortly
00:12:14after the reason preferred to us by the ministry of education was that hopefully the vacancies based
00:12:23on the persons who are already in the system which we quite agree with and we would have been
00:12:29advocating for for a number of years so we were quite pleased to hear that however a circular
00:12:37or an email which we cannot confirm the authenticity of it was emanating and circulating
00:12:45stating that it was a pre-interview process and it was possible you would have pre-interview
00:12:56it's quite an easy but that puts up further delay filling these vacancies and we are a couple of
00:13:05weeks new academic year and we are not confident that those vacancies will be filled in time
00:13:13Mr. Lumkin, I know that following your statements
00:13:21the education minister she was spoken to by members of the media and at that time she would
00:13:27have said that arrangements are being made to ensure that a shortage did not happen of course
00:13:34she spoke about some challenges but she says that things are being put in place to
00:13:42to get the wheels rolling again. What's your response to her statement?
00:13:52Well we are kind of quite perplexed at this point in time because the ministry of education
00:14:00is well or should be well aware of vacancies that would arise during the course of the school year
00:14:09because of their record we should not be waiting last minute to be rushing to fill these vacancies
00:14:18if records are digitized properly they can predict when persons are about to retire
00:14:26and the teaching service commission has said to us that there is a window of response that
00:14:34the information should be sent to them in order for preparations to take place for this month
00:14:40for interviews and etc. Now I must say as well too that the teaching service commission is doing
00:14:49its best based on the resources that it has and to remove that we have heard
00:14:56talk about from political entities that they want to remove the teaching service commission
00:15:02before because they believe it's inefficient we are saying they are starved of resources
00:15:08and give them the resources and they will do what is necessary however coming back to the point
00:15:16we are not pleased that this is going to be rushed we know our vacancies and I will say this
00:15:23the ministry of education their records are convenient because if I am to retire tomorrow
00:15:32my salary will be cut forthwith that there's no delay in that why is there delay in pulling
00:15:40our vacancies the teaching service commission is attempting to have a board of merit list as well
00:15:47so that as vacancies arises they can fill those vacancies and we applaud them for that
00:15:53because that's the way to go however vacancies have been left to be unoccupied for a number
00:16:00of years there are quite a bit of schools I am aware of where there are vacancies and this puts
00:16:06undue pressure on the staff because some staff members have to teach or supervise 2.3 classes
00:16:14principals have to be teaching and performing administrative duties and when it comes to
00:16:21supervision of these children if you do not have the requisite amount of educators on the compound
00:16:28then supervision becomes a big issue and then you can discipline and other activities but you know
00:16:38Mr. Lumpkin why do I feel and maybe some of our viewers may have this similar view but
00:16:46sometimes Mr. Lumpkin I believe that some of the problems that we hear about in education
00:16:53are problems that can be addressed very very easily and sometimes I believe and this is my
00:17:00personal view that there is this disconnect between let's say tutor the NPTA the education
00:17:09ministry the teaching service commission there's this disconnect and sometimes I believe that
00:17:14everyone is not on the same page because as you know Mr. Lumpkin sometimes we we speak about
00:17:21issues we speak about the teacher shortages we speak about a lack of resources at schools we
00:17:27speak about the state of educational institutions and it seems sometimes that you know it's
00:17:34it's a revolving door and the same issues that I believe my personal view that it could be
00:17:41addressed quite easily and I totally agree and tutor totally agrees with you Mr. Hopkinson
00:17:48and Mr. Hopkinson sorry because a lot of the issues can be addressed quite recently the
00:17:56excuse in the lack of financial finances address some of this and and we are it's a recurring
00:18:07excuse and we are quite fed up of it at this point in time we have put on the record that education
00:18:14is such that it requires the funding and we are saying boldly that government has drawn down on
00:18:23the heritage and stabilization fund for other aspects education is so it can't do that however
00:18:32we believe and tutor has been consistently representing and advocating and we will
00:18:38continue to do that we will work with whatever institution or organization that is in the cause
00:18:45of education and pta etc but we have to also remember that the ministry of education
00:18:53policies are are geared by and are administered by a political political entity and there's a
00:19:04political we figure that politics party politics should not be affecting our education system
00:19:15because of its its vast nature and the way it touches national development and so if it is that
00:19:25we are serious about it we have to be serious about it because there's too much at stake at
00:19:29this time our nation is reeling because of the education system and a number of ills can be fixed
00:19:39however we need to come together tutor is always willing to work with whatever administration
00:19:45is in power in order to have the system fixed and as I fully said there are some various
00:19:52um defects as we say low high hanging fruit that we can address
00:19:59Mr Lamkin um you made a statement uh there just now I never really heard that in the past maybe
00:20:06I've I've heard it but never really uh took it on because you're speaking now about politics
00:20:12and I never thought and maybe wrongfully so that the politics could be preventing
00:20:24developments in education just touch on that for us because I think that everyone would be
00:20:29interested to know how the politics are shaping things or preventing things in education
00:20:37so we've seen in the past the history has taught us that when there's a change in administration
00:20:44even within the same party and we're speaking about outside of parties as well to um the two
00:20:52main parties we've seen where projects have gone on the shelf we've seen where policy direction
00:20:59direction has changed I'll take for example we had the rebuilding of our junior secondary schools
00:21:08so you can recall in the 1970s the junior secondary schools were built thousand the
00:21:15junior secondary schools were deshifted and converted to five-year schools and there was
00:21:21a trust to rebuild those those schools as well there are a number of schools that would have
00:21:27reached 75 80 completion and with the change in administration it just went um dead and so we have
00:21:36a number of empty shelves next to schools that are facing infrastructural issue we had the issue of
00:21:44the continuous assessment component was shelved by uh an administration coming in but there are
00:21:53aspects of the continuous assessment component that and would because it looked at not summative
00:22:00assessment but formative assessment so you will be um you will be testing the child as
00:22:07he or she through the system and that goes towards your final examination um and and that is another
00:22:13issue in terms of SCA and placement but we wouldn't get to that so those are just simple examples of
00:22:20how the politics affects the and you're looking at millions tens of millions hundreds of millions
00:22:27of dollars being spent going down the drain which could have been used for uh in a better way and
00:22:34for the development in the education system I know I remember at the beginning of the last school term
00:22:43Mr. Lumpkin that we did have a discussion about schools preparedness and at that time
00:22:50a number of schools at the beginning of the new school term they were not in a state to accept
00:22:58children we also saw that happen in Tobago as we near or come closer to the beginning of this
00:23:06new school term let's look now at the preparedness of schools
00:23:13we have reached out to the Honorable Minister of Education just at the start of the vacation
00:23:21period we had a meeting with her and we did ask the question about the vacation repair program
00:23:29we were asking about a list of schools because we appreciate and I believe the Ministry of
00:23:36Education during this period of two months of not having persons on compound is the ideal time
00:23:44to be um instituting repairs and and so forth um and we would have been told that it is for
00:23:53at a critical point and we question what does critical point mean however what about those
00:24:01schools bring as well to that require some level of repairs however we were not given the list
00:24:10and we were told that the funding had had not been released at that point in time we are coming to
00:24:17the end of the the vacation and we have not gotten any list thus far our feedback from our
00:24:25principals and they have been sending in their repair list through the relevant process have
00:24:35not been getting little or have not been getting any feedback as such one principal said um they
00:24:42contacted her for reassessment of what she had because she had critical work to be done
00:24:47electrical is one and they had to re-evaluate based on the funding that they would have gotten
00:24:55Mr. Hopkinson this is a a reoccurring problem we've been having and we we know that the
00:25:03Ministry of Education will know that this period is upcoming wait again last month now this is the
00:25:11percent they are getting it last minute to have all of this um all of the paperwork done
00:25:18is inefficient is ineffective and it is affecting our our schools what may happen is that the the
00:25:26repairs will continue during the school term on evenings and at weekends this is not ideal
00:25:33because you can still have materials on the school compound that can be dangerous to the
00:25:39occupants every year we have recruited and funding is again we have prescribed a solution
00:25:49which the ministry and the government can take into account so then judging from what you are
00:25:56saying it would seem that we may have at the beginning of the new school term there may be
00:26:04still problems it may not be a smooth transition as a new school term begins
00:26:12yes and we are anticipating such and we will have our ears on the ground to to ascertain which
00:26:19schools are being challenged but let me also say this Mr. Hopkinson it has been the experience in
00:26:25the past that functionaries representatives of the Ministry of Education have been cajoling our
00:26:32school principals to have schools reopen no matter what so for the beginning of the school term
00:26:40every term principals have to send in a fitness for reopening i have known of situations where
00:26:47principal principals have said no it is not fit for reopening and the representative of the
00:26:54Ministry of Education has forced the principal to change that because the ministry by and large
00:27:03in our estimation has been going on a public relations gimmick so if schools if there are
00:27:10no schools that are that don't open then it's a public relations gimmick all schools have
00:27:18have reopened and we feel that if there are situations where and principals would not have
00:27:26said to the ministry overnight we have these problems it would have been constant reminders
00:27:33to the ministry and then you want to force these schools to be open under unsafe conditions which
00:27:40is not in the best interest of the occupants and they will allow for it to be closed after you know
00:27:47but we want to say at the beginning of the school term on the first year a hundred percent have been
00:27:53reopened now gather i i will give that last year there were some schools and they were not forced
00:28:00but we have had instances where principals are forced and in the back of their minds they will
00:28:07send in a fit for reopening it is for reopening because they don't want the added pressure of
00:28:15the ministry coming down on them but by and large there are some instances where the schools are not
00:28:21fit for reopening and they are forced to see it is fit for reopening but mr lumpkin my analysis
00:28:29as to what you would have said is that the education ministry is really putting the lives
00:28:38of children at risk
00:28:42yes uh not well we will say not only the the students but the occupants which is includes
00:28:50our members the the educators at risk and let me say this if anything happens to someone on
00:28:58the compound the principal is held liable they will be thrown under the bus because
00:29:05it they are the the managers of the plant they are the first responders as such and
00:29:12they will be held accountable but though they would have made representation the public wouldn't
00:29:19know that they will say well what did the principal do but the principals have been
00:29:25making and clamoring for years and sometimes it's simple repairs that can avoid any sort of
00:29:33accidents or is school security going to be an issue you think for teachers and students
00:29:42at the beginning of the new school term but school security has always been an issue for some of the
00:29:48schools and we are speaking about the complements and that is an issue that needs to be addressed
00:29:56one is the complement really suited for the compound and then two are they getting the
00:30:04full complement of security officers we have been saying that at the primary level
00:30:10these two does because officers are supposed to patrol as well as mind the main entrances
00:30:18and when you have one person doing all of that it is not done effectively at secondary schools
00:30:24you have some large compounds some over 10 acres and you have the complement does not allow
00:30:32proper polling and assistance to the school when it comes to school security and we want to say
00:30:40this we have confirmed because some security officers are saying that are only there to guard
00:30:48we have confirmed that it is both planned and we are saying this to the principals to the teachers
00:30:57and to the public that the school security officers are supposed to be there to man plant
00:31:03and personnel and we are also clamoring for the pulling of vacancies for school safety officers
00:31:10who would give an added level of of assistance to secondaries you know mr lumpkin i think that we
00:31:19have become accustomed to a culture in trinidad and tobago and i speak specifically about education
00:31:29where every year you hear teachers speaking about and you did speak about funding
00:31:35but teachers speaking about problems with funding and having great difficulty in really providing
00:31:44education to their students teachers and students are they are always involved in some fundraising
00:31:51exercise to raise funds to carry out the operations at schools and it has become a culture
00:31:58and it has become something that we have accepted right because i suspect teachers and principals
00:32:03believe well we have no other choice um so how do you how do you resolve a situation such as that
00:32:12and that that is one of the issues that plagues the nation schools our educators our teachers
00:32:20principals are caring uh are so caring that they will go of their job description so if
00:32:29persons check the job description of any educator in the system it does not have fundraising however
00:32:36if you want to have certain certain resources and please then we have been accustomed over the years
00:32:44to go in and raising funds because we don't want the system to shut down we don't want our students
00:32:51to suffer because you're talking about provision of resources sometimes basic courses like toilet
00:32:58paper and you know if our schools say to our parents that your child should bring a roll of
00:33:05toilet paper you would hear the outcry but if it reaches to that point persons have to appreciate
00:33:12why because their schools are being challenged in in terms of fundraising as well because the nation's
00:33:19economic situation is such that sponsorship has increased um so quite a bit and even raising funds
00:33:28sometimes you don't realize that so when you have to raise funds it takes away from the classroom
00:33:34teaching you don't want you want the attention to be there at the school you don't want to have
00:33:40loss of teaching and learning and so funding so as you brought up that when we met with the minister
00:33:48we indicated that the last funding that they would have gotten was 2022 and they got some this
00:33:55year and and so we believe that there were years in between that the schools did not get funding
00:34:01and should get the fund so that there's no retroactive payment as such so you went through
00:34:09the years you went through however you um got through it um but now we will look at going
00:34:15forward if that is the case then we are not sure that 25 you will get funded and then
00:34:2026 you may get funding and such but the schools cannot run without funding there are basic
00:34:26necessities that are required especially with the when you're looking at the diseases that
00:34:33have been spread so covid is still in school we still need sorry and have taken place
00:34:42to provide for hand sanitizing and washing and so forth um so these are just some of the basic
00:34:48issues but funding is important for schools mr lumpkin thank you very much for speaking with us
00:34:54this morning i'm sure that we are going to be speaking again mr lumpkin in the next few weeks
00:35:00or at the beginning of the new school term so until then take care bye for now mr lumpkin
00:35:06thank you very much and all the best yes i will be available to update in asia
00:35:11bye bye for now okay so we are going to a very short break everybody we're coming back
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00:38:37joel as always thank you very much for coming this morning thanks for the opportunity as always
00:38:42marlon striking the right note joel stakeholders explored the viability of world steel pan day and
00:38:49we do have the front page of the right we do have that right so striking the right note and that's
00:38:55what we hope to do with with this magazine um you know our philosophy on the express business desk is
00:39:03that we believe everything has an element of business attached it and with that that philosophy
00:39:09in mind um you know last year they would have the un general assembly would have instituted august 11th
00:39:17as international steel pan day apart from that um last month we would have passed the laws to make
00:39:27the steel pan our national instrument officially you know so with those things coming together
00:39:32um august 11th is saturday this week there are there are events building up to the day so we
00:39:39wanted to look at the business aspect of it so my colleague vishanna park would have spoken to
00:39:44the minister of tourism randall mitchell just to speak about what what does this mean now
00:39:52just to segue a little bit last night i was only working on the promenade
00:39:56and there were a few foreigners and they were looking for phase two phase two's pan pan pan
00:40:03theater you know and what it seems like they're in the country and why things that they're doing
00:40:08in the country is going to the pan the pan yard because those are the kind of things that they're
00:40:12doing this week to the build-up for international steel pan day now you know july august is always
00:40:18the vacation period it's a period of time where you have increased travel to to try on tobago
00:40:23people coming out from the from from north america europe and so coming to get nice nice beach and
00:40:30lime and stuff like that and so we're just looking at the whole prospect of international steel pans
00:40:35day these these events that they're having for the week before international seeds pan day and what
00:40:42could it mean for trying to be go in terms of tourism what can it mean for trying to be going
00:40:45in terms of increased revenue um so apart from the tourism minister we would have spoken to other
00:40:51stakeholders so you know we have pantry and bagel the president beverly ramsey more one of the things
00:40:57that is taking place with pantry and bagel now we would have known marlin you know like in the east
00:41:02by the tacarigua transit area there was a site originally set aside for pantry and bagels
00:41:07headquarters um that site they're now seeking to utilize that site for for something else
00:41:13so the government what they decided to do is trade with with pantry and bagels all right we'll take
00:41:18that site because we have further plans for the site but they're giving pantry and bagel a new
00:41:23location a new headquarters in port of spain area so we spoke to beverly ramsey more to find out
00:41:28like what does that mean and what she's saying is that pantry and bagel with their own headquarters
00:41:34they may be able to have events for themselves have seminars conferences different things so
00:41:40that be able to also help pan help the whole industry help you know ensure that things are
00:41:48established in a way where they could they could also become a little more self-sufficient
00:41:53and increase revenue and help the bands and so on right and help the instruments um get where it
00:42:00needs to go we would have also spoken to the director of the musical instruments of toronto
00:42:05bagel company limited known as medco medco creates the steel part now they build a steel pan now the
00:42:12majority of the pans that they they sell exported you know so not just the local market but we're
00:42:18looking at the international markets in terms of the seal of steel pans and then one of the things
00:42:23that we would have seen happen some years back during the time of prime minister patrick manning
00:42:29we would have seen professor brian copeland would have invented the g pan and so vishan would have
00:42:36also spoken to professor copeland just to see about the future of pan because you know we're
00:42:40just looking at all the elements of steel pan steel pan as a business and how viable is it
00:42:45and this is the start because international seal pan they would have been officially recognized
00:42:51last year this is the first time we're seeing all these elements coming together so it's just like
00:42:56the the start and where can we go from now in terms of steel pan and ensuring that you know
00:43:04our official national instrument now can be properly featured on the international stage
00:43:10you know when i speak about the pan i well this is long overdue but you know croco has a song
00:43:17tell me where pan reach where the hell pan reach no matter how they pray and preach
00:43:23way pan reach and you know if you listen to that song and you listen to the concerns at that time
00:43:29of croco and other persons would have sung other songs about about the pan there is still much more
00:43:36to do when it comes to pan and at this stage joelle i don't want to bring joelle in the back
00:43:41canal because joelle just joelle is just here for one purpose right to speak about the express business
00:43:47but to me we just have a kind of lackluster kind of kind of a kind of ad hoc way about a lot of
00:43:56things in trinidad and tobago you know not until the people in japan was making rubber for the for
00:44:02the stick then all they'll run quick all they're making rubber for the stick and all they're making
00:44:07making containers to put the pan and so on so let me anyway let me let me let me bring back
00:44:14joelle into this thing but that is just my view so we're talking about the pan we're on the we're
00:44:19on the right road but you know there's still much more needs to be done and it's long overdue go
00:44:23ahead agreed much more needs to be done but you know it's a start and and you know they say the
00:44:27longest journey starts with the first step so hopefully this is this is this is one of the
00:44:32steps in in the right direction you know so we just want to look at the business aspect of pan
00:44:36all right one of the things that would have taken place this week at the start of this week the
00:44:41national entrepreneurship development company of trying to be limited netco um in in in
00:44:46collaboration with the ministry of the of youth development they would have had their entrepreneurship
00:44:52awards and one of the people that we feature coming out of those awards is tenille clark
00:44:58now tenille clark was named the female entrepreneur of the year 2024 tenille clark is the the founder
00:45:05of a company called chambers media and the company is named chambers media um in honor of
00:45:12her father so my colleague melissa maynard would have reached out to tenille just to speak about
00:45:18that journey of entrepreneurship because tenille has been doing doing work on the international
00:45:24stage and so the headline that we went with is tenille clark championing caribbean stories and
00:45:30that's basically what she is she it's a pr company um chambers chambers media is a pr company
00:45:36and they are pushing basically the caribbean narrative or the international shows so she
00:45:40would have done um articles for various clients and those would have been featured in like forms
00:45:46magazine essential magazine and you know those are those aren't small magazines those are those are
00:45:51magazines are that that on the international stage that people look towards uh for the standard that
00:45:56they said so we highlighted tenille as the female entrepreneur of the year and also just to segue a
00:46:03little bit in our business social pages which is basically our pages where we look at we we let our
00:46:09photographers highlight some of the things that they some of the events that they would have gone
00:46:13to and we also highlight the netco awards coming out of that and in that you would have seen you
00:46:20would see some of the other the other winners that would have been listed there because you know we
00:46:25always say that the micro small medium enterprises these entrepreneurs are the one really the life
00:46:31blood of of business and the economy itself because they they assist in terms of job creation
00:46:38um pushing the economy in terms of revenue and so on so we just looked at a bit of netco and
00:46:46we highlight the the human aspect of the female entrepreneur but you know what joelle i don't
00:46:53know if you have noticed that but caribbean stories as you all have put it here and caribbean
00:47:01culture to me there has been an explosion an explosion of interest in caribbeanness over the
00:47:10past few years and more so with the social media right you know there was a big controversy the
00:47:15other day about who has the best current rule who current rule dry and who current rule moist
00:47:20and so on so there's this there's this new sort of of of interest in in caribbean culture and a lot
00:47:28of people um see it as a viable option now right yeah i agree agree with you 100 percent you know
00:47:35and and that's the beauty of of it if we tell our stories the way our stories need to be told
00:47:41you know it will peak interest um you know you see in hollywood now there's a lot of
00:47:47regurgitating of stories so you have like part five of a movie or they go back to remake a movie
00:47:54and we have we have a lot of stories we have a lot of stories to tell and just to add a little
00:48:00bit to you know when you watch like tiktok and denise belfort songs yeah nyla blackmon songs
00:48:07and people using these songs and it's the caribbean and i think that we have a lot to tell
00:48:12and it's good to see an entrepreneur like tenille clark being able to make that step on the
00:48:17international stage the global stage to be able to tell our stories because we have we we we rich
00:48:24we rich with stories you know um so apart from the feature on tenille we would have also spoken to
00:48:31the vice presidents of sales at guardian general mr greg manett my colleague vishanna pagu speaks
00:48:36to him mr manager speaks about his journey he would have started in in guardian um like i think
00:48:43about 20 years ago kind of thing and you know he would have risen through the ranks of the
00:48:49organization and he just speaks to to that you know that level of tenacity um that level of stick
00:48:56twitter where you dare at this organization and what what it means to him and what he also could
00:49:02uh how we could inspire a younger the younger generation getting into into that field yeah
00:49:09yeah one of the other things that we look at is regional travel you know regional travel is one
00:49:15of those discussions that we we always have and the discussion leads to too expensive to get from
00:49:21point a to point b um sometimes we we would have heard the prime minister of grenada a few years
00:49:28back talking about he had to come to trinidad and the difficulties just to reach to trinidad
00:49:33because the there are daily flights and so on so regional travel is always one of the things
00:49:38that we we keep on our radar what has happened yesterday is liat liat liat liat the caribbean
00:49:48now there was the original liat which is liat 1974 limited yes um they would have
00:49:53gone through some financial issues went bankrupt so there there was there was a thrust then to
00:50:02revamp liat so there's a new liat that that has started to fly commercially again the inaugural
00:50:09fight took place landed in in saint lucia yesterday now prime minister garson brown who's the prime
00:50:15minister of antigua and barbuda um he he was a been one that really pushed any thrust of liat
00:50:21because regional regional travel as i say is one of those things that
00:50:26to get to point a to b right on our little archipelago um yeah so we looked we highlighted
00:50:33the issue of liat and the return of liat and what it what it may mean for regional travel
00:50:39and what we mean for for us as the people in caribbean liat i wish you all the best because
00:50:44as you know um joel for years they have had financial problems so let's hope that
00:50:51um you have better management in place this time around to make the airline viable and for it to
00:50:57stay all right joel we just have about two more minutes again all right so just to briefly run
00:51:03through the rest of it we we take a look at cyber security which is also which is always one of those
00:51:08discussions that we have to keep oh we have to keep a focus on we're looking specifically for
00:51:13the micro small medium enterprises and how it how they can bolster their strength in terms of
00:51:20ensuring that they don't become victims of cyber security and if you do become a victim
00:51:25how do you recover we also have some of our guest columnists we have dr phyllis morrow
00:51:31she's an hr consultant she speaks about change management and how hr itself can assist in that
00:51:38change management strategy we have riyadh muhammed who is an agricultural consultant at riyadh today
00:51:45focuses on vegetables and what it means to what it means to us in terms of health and otherwise
00:51:52we also take a look at now on monday there was a sort of crash a crash on wall street yeah so we
00:51:59just wanted as the business publication the main major business publication for the express
00:52:05newspaper we also wanted to highlight what were some of the issues that took place on that monday
00:52:11we have seen some recovery so far but just to look at people people were seeing the money falling
00:52:19panicking panicking so it was a manic monday so we just look at the issues on on that monday and
00:52:25how it transpired we always maintain that we are just a part of a a larger team which is the
00:52:32express news team which is led by miss omelette later and we always keep our fingers on the pulse
00:52:38of what's going on in terms of business so in the daily express you would also see our our business
00:52:44stories some of the things that we're looking at economist marla ducaron would have made some
00:52:49claims talking about trinidad tobago is the the largest forex earner um since she made that
00:52:54statement the prime minister would have responded she and she would have responded so yeah so we
00:53:01look at we look at her response in today's um express newspaper and marlon that is basically
00:53:07what we have for you on offer we know olympics is going on yes and wish our best to our olympians
00:53:12and we also hope to be able to try to do a business story with respect to the olympics
00:53:18yeah joelle it's always a pleasure speaking with you thank you very much for coming
00:53:21and we'll see you right back here next week thank you very much
00:53:24so we are going to a very short break everybody we're coming back pan music boy
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00:55:26good morning i am ansel gibbs with a news update just above 10 bids have been received for the
00:55:33point appear refinery this from the energy minister following the request for proposal process it is
00:55:41closed the rfp process as we said was closed it closed on the 31st of july so right now the
00:55:46evaluation committee that is chaired by former permanent secretary now high commissioner from
00:55:52trinidad and tobigo to united kingdom vishnu dan paul they are busy working at it and looking at
00:55:57what has come forward and i look forward to getting the the results from them and their
00:56:02recommendations in the next few weeks
00:56:08in sport kishon walcott has secured a spot in thursday's olympic javelin throw final on tuesday
00:56:15walker threw just over 83 meters to finish 11th among the 12 qualifiers and jereme richards is
00:56:23set to run this afternoon local time in the men's 400 meter final on tuesday richards finished
00:56:30second in his semi-final run and in the weather forecast trinidad and tobigo can expect mostly
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01:00:09all right so welcome back everyone so the ministry of sport and community development is back with a
01:00:14workshop and this time it is geared towards men the 2024 virtual men's symposium is a series of
01:00:20workshops which will provide a safe space for men to discuss sensitive topics of interest and
01:00:25seek assistance to deal with the challenges they are facing all right so joining us via zoom this
01:00:31morning we do have a manager of the central main mediation center community mediation services
01:00:39division ministry of sport and community development fidel sanatan fidel thank you
01:00:45very much for joining us this morning thank you so much for having us uh today marlon and good
01:00:52morning to all your viewers yes fidel is good to speak with you um well tell us about this workshop
01:00:58fidel all right well this workshop our 2024 virtual men's symposium is a product of consultation with
01:01:09our stakeholders where we found out from our clients other leaders inside of our ministry
01:01:16what issues are affecting men right now and then we went and reached out to some of our technical
01:01:22partners to come up with a workshop that would serve those needs if it is that i have the time
01:01:28i could go into detail about what the workshops are of course okay okay great well on the first
01:01:35day of the present of these workshops we're going to be dealing with criminal gang culture
01:01:40and its impact on men and boys uh we have a presenter from the triantibego police academy
01:01:45that's going to go into detail about what the effect of becoming involved in criminal gangs
01:01:51has on a person as well as their family and we would also look at how families could build resilience
01:01:58to avoid the influence of criminal gangs on the second day we will be looking at how to support a
01:02:05victim of crime and here we would have two presenters all right one person from the criminal
01:02:11injuries compensation board talking about the instrumental ways that you could support a victim
01:02:16of crime meaning that the documents that you have to collect the claims that they have to file so
01:02:21there's an administrative process to become whole after you experience crime we'll be talking about
01:02:28that and we also have another presenter who is going to be talking about the emotional aspect
01:02:34how do we go about providing emotional support that is necessary for someone who has been a
01:02:41victim of crime to heal so that's the second day on the third day we'll be discussing men's health
01:02:48and these are areas for urgent attention and again we have two presenters uh one from the
01:02:53pan-american health organization that's going to go through a paper that they published on 2023
01:03:01on men and masculinity's health in the caribbean taking time to look at men's mortality in trinidad
01:03:08and tobago and the things that men could do to take care of themselves and live longer and healthier
01:03:15and we also have a representative of the mental health unit of the ministry of health who's going
01:03:20to take us through men's mental health again it would be using statistics but also exposing people
01:03:27to what resources are available to get assistance and then on the final day day four we'll have a
01:03:34panel of people from our ministry that is the ministry of sport and community development
01:03:40going through how to access support and grants from our ministry all right so we're speaking about
01:03:47four days of discussions um fidel let's talk a little bit about the demographic
01:03:54who's this symposium for or this workshop all right it's for it's open to all men i would say
01:04:02all adult men uh who we are targeting so 18 and old men 18 and over is who we are targeting and
01:04:09you know every year so this is the second year that we've done this and we have an ongoing men's
01:04:14program women have been interested in the topics that we are sharing so what we'll be doing is
01:04:21recording the presentations and then putting it in our ministry social media page so while the
01:04:27conversations are geared towards men uh and women would not be invited on the day of the symposium
01:04:35the content is going to be shared later on but how do you intend to get men involved or men to
01:04:44attend this symposium as you know fidel men we because we think we're so macho and we don't like
01:04:52to share what our feelings are with with people and we're stubborn and all of these good things
01:04:59that make up our men so how do you get men to to drop all of of these barriers that they have put
01:05:09and to come to attend the symposium all right well you know i think one of the strengths of
01:05:16doing these symposiums virtually is that it makes it more convenient for persons to join
01:05:22we have experienced success with that uh the timing of the symposium is between 9 a.m and 12
01:05:28noon and what we found when we have workshops at that time is that people also tune in at work
01:05:34all right sometimes people turn on their cameras and we'll see that uh they're at their desk typing
01:05:39away at something and then they give us a glance or i remember speaking to somebody who was actually
01:05:44cashing groceries that was the job but while they were there they were listening in as well
01:05:49so it's not something that is going to distract people completely but what we found is by going
01:05:59we've expanded the reach of how many people access our services and also we've gotten
01:06:05significant uptick from uh south trinidad central trinidad and tobago so it's not just the east west
01:06:11corridor that attends but you feel that the men that need the assistance the most that they are
01:06:22or they would be willing to attend the symposium
01:06:28yes and what i would say is that we've been able to get groups of men involved in our programming
01:06:35i'll give you an example we have a support group that meets monthly last year we had about 12
01:06:41members this year through word of mouth and through growth we have 50 members and these men
01:06:48come together and they support each other and what happened is that as they found the program
01:06:54had value they began to tell other men and that's what we find taking place friends tell each other
01:07:00like hey you should really come and do this um i would say a big shout out to uh ministry of
01:07:08planning the town and country planning division was our facilitator for last month last month's
01:07:14men's meeting and we got a healthy crowd of people who were interested in finding out about
01:07:20how to renovate your home and how to get approval to build a new home as well so it's really we
01:07:25found that the content once it's relevant it brings the men in you see and and i think that
01:07:33is my concern what you would have spoken about because i think that the men that you would have
01:07:38spoken about a short while ago these are men who who are positive people who care who want to make
01:07:48a change in their lives and my concern is that these men are already transformed in a way into
01:07:59law abiding citizens but what about the delinquent ones so it's really and i think you have confirmed
01:08:06to me that the positive men that who are going to attend the symposium it's really up to them to
01:08:12go out into the community now and touch the delinquent ones all right you know i i like
01:08:20that perspective uh that you've taken what i would say to you is that we are open to all persons
01:08:29and while we do have one approach where we use these virtual symposiums our ministry has a
01:08:37leverage point in that we have our community development division that goes into communities
01:08:42so we partner with many of our stakeholders internally as well as externally so for
01:08:48example another partner we have is the officer the prime minister gender affairs division and
01:08:54through leveraging our stakeholder network we are able to get more persons more men who are
01:09:01clients of other agencies more men who are interested generally in accessing the workshops
01:09:09and you don't have to attend every day so some people come in for one workshop or they register
01:09:13for one workshop because that's the topic that they're most interested in yeah is this the first
01:09:19time that you're having such a symposium oh no this is the second year that we're having the
01:09:24symposium we had our first one last year and uh we did have success with that because the topics
01:09:32are really engaged the persons who were there let's talk about the response because i suspect
01:09:39that when you when you go into the symposium you as a participant
01:09:50that you may not have certain information um and you would have gone into the program a particular
01:10:00way even mentally but i suspect at the end of the symposium and after being exposed
01:10:09to the information at the symposium and even i suspect it can act in some way to inspire people
01:10:16to inspire change is that the effect that you would have seen that is correct so the answer
01:10:23to that is yes where how we see our symposiums at the community mediation services division
01:10:30is that they are an introduction to members of the public to who we are as well as the
01:10:37additional services that we provide this is not our one stop and then you leave it's an introduction
01:10:43you if you never heard about us before and you never knew about men's programming before
01:10:48you have the opportunity to meet other persons who could help you and what we found in all of
01:10:54our work is that there are persons who need the help we tell them in the session if it is that
01:11:00you want to access any services put it into the chat all right and we always have a list of persons
01:11:07who want help whether it be mediation counseling or another service that the ministry provides
01:11:13so i see this as a force multiplier it brings people in and they learn more about what we offer
01:11:21but i believe and that's the point i was getting at i think it could be a life-changing event for
01:11:28the participants correct all right we have persons who really do come away with a different perspective
01:11:36in the feedback that we receive about our work uh transformational is a word that gets used a lot
01:11:43by the participants and client population so the symposium begins when fidel
01:11:52marlon what date what date does the symposium begin
01:11:57oh this symposium is going to take place on the last week of august that is from monday the 26th
01:12:04to thursday the 29th and how do people sign up so to sign up or register what we want persons to do
01:12:12is to go on our ministry's facebook page that is ministry of sport and community development
01:12:18the flyer and registration link would be there yeah fidel is there any additional information
01:12:25that you'd like to share with us before you leave us this morning all right well listen if persons
01:12:31are interested about who we are that is the community mediation services division of the
01:12:36ministry of sport and community development they could give us a call at 225-4267
01:12:43or they could send us a whatsapp at 703-3287 all right uh we do have programs that run throughout
01:12:53the course of the year and while we are targeting men with the men's symposium we have programs
01:12:58towards parents as well as couples and mediation in communities as well yeah fidel it was a pleasure
01:13:06speaking with you this morning thank you very much thank you for having us marlon i hope you
01:13:11enjoy the rest of the day you too fidel all right so it's time for a quick break everybody we're
01:13:15coming back
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01:16:19all right so welcome back so you all love that song and we love that song right and like every
01:16:24day we play that song for a call-in segment which is going to come at the end of the program right
01:16:29but we do have in studio this morning kitwana israel and of course he's a music producer and
01:16:36writer and this is a gentleman who has had us jumping and waving he has written some of the
01:16:42big songs so let me let me tell you what hola tunji airwood hola on the cancan rhythm uh kess
01:16:49hello uh marshall montano and bungee garland's bus said you remember that bus your head there
01:16:54that's the gentleman who wrote it uh patrice roberts uh tender viking ding dong ding dong
01:17:01drink party nyla blackmon and skinny fabulous come home and most recently patrice roberts
01:17:07anxiety so kit thank you very much for coming this morning and thank you very much for the
01:17:11music well i try and i try nothing but thank you very much you don't know kid you're trying
01:17:15nothing you're there you have it but kit you're here to speak about uh the youth soca injection
01:17:22yes yeah tell us a little bit about that right so the initiative that we had is it's first of all
01:17:27it's a group of us that came together right um it's nicolai green kyle phillips mevon sudin so
01:17:33they're all producers in the industry as well and we came together and um we always wanted to give
01:17:38back to the community because every year we do the same thing we produce songs we hope we get a
01:17:42hit and and we've seen a lot of artists becoming bigger and bigger and bigger but are not not a lot
01:17:46of young artists coming into the industry themselves so we decided we're gonna do a
01:17:51project to see if we could inject most young people into the industry itself so the aim is
01:17:57really to see if we could find six artists about and give them the hits let's see if we could give
01:18:02them the opportunity and promote them in the way where it is we will promote some of the bigger
01:18:06artists as well because to be honest it doesn't seem like there's a lot of young people interested
01:18:11in soca music really yeah i mean they more go for the zest or they more go to the trinidad because
01:18:17it's easier to access it's it's like it's a more viable option like you could release something on
01:18:23tiktok it could get popular and then boom you're a superstar but the soca industry is a little more
01:18:28crafty to kind of maneuver through so we we are seeing us a decline i think aaron duncan is probably
01:18:34one of the youngest and i've been doing work with him since can you feel it like that's like
01:18:38ages ago and he is doing the soca and then he released he recently released a zest kind of song
01:18:45and it got popular like within the last few months and he's been doing the calypso on the soca for a
01:18:50long time and nobody was taking him as serious as possible so i mean that is proof that it's
01:18:55just it's just not working the way that we want it to work so that i mean i love soca music and
01:19:00i would like for it to go into the future i have three kids and i would love for one of them to
01:19:03actually get into the music and so forth but it just doesn't seem like they're interested
01:19:08so that's why we we're saying you know what let's see if we could give back a little bit to say
01:19:12to see if they could at least try an effort because remember they had efforts like soca star
01:19:18and of course rising star and all these different things um but they don't have anything like that
01:19:23anymore so i'm hoping like if we inspire youths to do more of the music we could inspire programs
01:19:28like that we could inspire bigger things where it is we have a future for soca because i mean soca
01:19:32isn't just carnival soca could be a overall international song like kesalo actually got
01:19:38to a point where yeah it was like yo let's take caribbean serious but i think if we just continue
01:19:45staying in our pocket like okay road match every year because even soca man died to a point and
01:19:51it's like what are we going to do we're going to sit back and just be like okay well the road
01:19:55match is dead now and that's it now i think we have an opportunity now where we're comfortable
01:20:00enough where we could give back to the community and invest in you because i'm turning 40 soon
01:20:05right i mean i know how to look at it i know how to look at it but you know i i think it is our
01:20:11responsibility to give back to the community and i would like to see more youths involved in it so
01:20:16that's what the program is but you know kit i mean what you have told us here this morning it has
01:20:23come as a surprise to me because i think that we have seen artists young artists come into soca
01:20:33especially soca over the years and we have seen them turn into superstars and we have also seen
01:20:41how viable the industry is we're seeing if you go on social media right now you're seeing them
01:20:49uh uh country hopping yep they are on tour so the opportunities are are great and massive and and
01:20:58really the world is now before them so it's it's kind of it's kind of surprising that you're
01:21:04telling me well it would seem that you know the young people a number of them are not interested
01:21:09in this soca so something has to be done for us to i suspect market the soca in a different way in
01:21:17a palatable way to our young people right yeah i totally agree like i think the last batch of soca
01:21:22artists and stars we got were like second star alfana's voice all of them came from soca star
01:21:28umi makano kemba sozano um what's his name uh yeah yeah um fireball fireball like all of them
01:21:37came from that era and all of them are doing super well now yeah but after that it doesn't really
01:21:43have you know so so and i think that's where the disconnect because we still kind of believe that
01:21:47second star isn't super young anymore you know i mean we're all over 30 but we're talking about
01:21:52like under 25 even 18 years they don't have anybody interested there is great need for
01:21:57succession and and for flag bearers and for other people to carry that torch that torch of of soca
01:22:04right um get how do young people get involved in this well this is the first stage that we're doing
01:22:11of it so we're selecting about six artists so far we have about three it's not like a public
01:22:15public thing but i mean if you could get on to me and i hear your voice and you send my demo
01:22:20whatever the case is we will evaluate it because we really need to put talent before politics i
01:22:25think that's probably the most important thing because yes we could have entertainers that may
01:22:29not be as much like vocally a bit uh capable but we can't put all of them because we have to
01:22:36represent the the entire nation as talent not just okay somebody go on the stage and just dance
01:22:42no we need a variety of talent not just you know gimme gimme the kind of thing that so what we're
01:22:49trying to do we have about three artists already and we're trying to look for three more and from
01:22:53there we would we would sit down with them in studio write songs and do the the material and
01:22:57prepare them and hopefully release at the end of september october because the carnival season is
01:23:01coming up already um but then the following iteration of it the hope is to get more and see
01:23:07if you can have a full album maybe 12 songs and keep going bigger every single year so at least
01:23:11the youths have something every single year going forward it's just this is the first one and of
01:23:16course it's a budget that we have to work with um and then from there we'll just take it bigger and
01:23:21bigger every year um so you have three artists already you're looking for three more so how do
01:23:29they contact you all um i mean we're keeping it small and private for now because it's going to
01:23:34be overwhelming amount and yeah i don't think we have the resources to do that so i mean anybody
01:23:39who wants to send resources we gladly accept it um uh they can find me on social media at kit israel
01:23:46or at advocate prod uh either myself nicolai kyle phillips or mevon greet mevon um sudin and
01:23:55we would just assess it it's we're not trying to make it too
01:23:59official official not yet because we need to make sure it's a it's an energy i know a lot of
01:24:06musicians and a lot of artists talk about this energy and the vibe and the vibe but it is real
01:24:11it is real because what we put into the music is what you feel when you hear it right so we try to
01:24:16keep on that so i mean find me on social media you could find me on whatever contact you could
01:24:21get and we'll figure it out yeah tell us a little bit about hang jack right hang hang jack
01:24:26is a group of us um nicolai green as i said mevon and kyle that we came together to really push
01:24:32forward the next generation of what music should be so the the idea hang jack came from us playing
01:24:37all fours that time okay yeah and i bought a pack of cards and for some reason i keep getting my
01:24:43hang my jack and we've and it just so happened with like hang jack when you hang a jack again
01:24:50points all the other points are like one points it's probably the most significant role yeah and
01:24:55we're trying to make significant positive impact towards the growth in the industry so we say you
01:25:00know what let me go with the name hang jack and it kind of just stuck on us and we try to play
01:25:04all fours every time we meet and i think it's it represents all of us because hang jack is a local
01:25:11kind of card game and then we ourselves it's about fun but it's also about trying to make the
01:25:18biggest amount of impact that we can so but you know kit um i think kudos to you all
01:25:25because um again uh hang jack a collective of music producers advocate productions kit
01:25:33you have bad john republic kyle phillips and you have uh nmg music nicolai green
01:25:39and explicit uh entertainment and the point i'm making kit is that you all can stand
01:25:47on your own you know but you all have decided to come together and um involve yourselves
01:25:53in this initiative i know how it could be in the industry sometimes so kudos to um you all
01:26:02anything uh let's talk a little bit about um
01:26:08you have you have the three artists you say you don't want to open it too too big but
01:26:12what is the criteria to even approach you all to be a part of this initiative to be there's
01:26:17no well it would be aiming at 25 and under yes we're trying to keep it for more younger people
01:26:24i mean i mean i feel 25 25 and under um there's no hope for me you can try you can try um
01:26:34male female doesn't matter i mean vocal ability is super important i think that's probably the
01:26:38most important and then stage presence and and presentation of self um and then the last of
01:26:43course criteria is your vibe and energy in terms of yeah ability to listen ability to adapt ability
01:26:51to to um function quickly on on the spot like these things are important and then your i guess
01:26:57your business acumen we really need because we will teach them the business along the way but
01:27:01we need proper business practices going forward because the industry and it's crazy yeah like
01:27:06even yeah even some of the bigger names some of the middle names some of the smaller names
01:27:11it's we don't have the right standards so that's part of what hang jack is trying to
01:27:15to accomplish as well standardizing some industry for the new market because with the internet and
01:27:20the streaming and so forth things are changing very very quickly and then ai music coming just
01:27:25now it's going to get crazy and we need to at least keep up with the standardization of things
01:27:30so in terms of criteria we need all of these things we need positive energy going forward
01:27:36not just oh gimme gimme and it's it's um i can make money and i can be a star from this no there's
01:27:41a responsibility that comes with it if you become popular off of this and you build a career off of
01:27:46this each one bring one you have to and i mean we can't force anybody to but we are in we are
01:27:52very hopeful that the people that we choose they they do take that responsibility and bring one
01:27:57with them if they get popular just bring one with you that's all yeah what's the trust by
01:28:05young producers today because i know a few years ago and they even sang about it
01:28:12some artists i believe it was general grant take soca music to the billboard chart and someone
01:28:18sang one as well too yeah someone was speaking about getting a grammy what's the thrust today
01:28:23by the soca artist and even the producer what are we trying to achieve i think we we know that we
01:28:30are capable enough to reach to that point and it's just a accolade to prove to ourselves that
01:28:36we could do it and i believe we can but our talent is not our limitation right is our collaboration
01:28:42is failing us totally like we work in silos and i think that's why hijack hang jack is really
01:28:48important to us because most producers is like they get the hits and they stay in the corner
01:28:52they disappear failure they come back they get a hit somewhere every case is writers musicians
01:28:56everybody in their own silos artists as well but nobody is carrying each other when they get an
01:29:02opportunity and that is probably the most important thing we want to inspire where it is we could do
01:29:07it together better instead of just doing it alone but i feel and i don't know if you share this view
01:29:13but i feel there has to be a greater infrastructure in place of course of course i i think we're
01:29:20wobbling on on on unsteady beams if you want to call it that um but that comes with a lot a lot of
01:29:28like rebuilding i think a lot need to mash up and then rebuild over because where we are now we're
01:29:34stuck in a culture of certain things and we have to take it to the next dimension we might have to
01:29:40scrap a lot of songs and then rebuild but that's a lot of giving up the garden yeah some people that
01:29:45hold on to the garden might need to pass it on yeah so so no i agree with you a hundred percent
01:29:50that it does require a lot of restructuring but what about and i want to speak about you and your
01:29:56and your colleagues the young producers because i'm sure that there may be young people looking
01:30:00at us right now and thinking look i want to get into that i want to produce i want to write
01:30:07how do they get into that what are they what are the avenues via which they can get that's an
01:30:13interesting question um getting into the super easy you know staying in it is the hard part yeah
01:30:18yeah and then um i i actually i have my degree in maths right my my bachelor's degree in maths
01:30:24um i was gonna do my master's and then go into actual science and so forth i graduated top of
01:30:29my class and i just loved music since i was 12 years old i've been doing it since i was a dj i
01:30:35was a rapper i was i was all of them did you was a rapper oh yeah i was a rapper i don't know how
01:30:40healthy that era of my life was but um i did all of it and i loved it since 12 years old so that's
01:30:46about what 28 years yeah um and i knew to myself i would have done it regardless of what job i
01:30:52would have had and i went to school i did all this stuff and then i realized you know what if i don't
01:30:57take the risk now i would never take you so when my first son son was born i decided to leave my
01:31:02job save money leave my job and and i went a hundred percent into it and that's when i started
01:31:08actually doing soca i met up with second stand so forth on them i'm just giving you the example
01:31:12because not everybody's story is going to be the same but i had to sacrifice a lot and i failed a
01:31:18lot before i actually got that hit which was ola tunji ola that one so come on and so forth and
01:31:24phenomenal benji phenomenal was on that rhythm and all that thing and i had to sacrifice on a lot to
01:31:30the point where my newborn son you know i was taking a huge risk and from there i i got so
01:31:36lucky like i would i would always be grateful for that i knew to myself if it didn't work i had to
01:31:41go back and i had to feed him right we had to provide but it worked yeah and then it kept working
01:31:47and it kept looking and it's still working and and now it's at a point where okay i i could do
01:31:55the things that i i feel like i was born to do right but that's not the story for everybody
01:32:01and it is a very difficult environmental maneuver because what ended up happening is
01:32:08oh god it's like a it's like a it's like a tough marriage or tough relationship
01:32:12you might get on a few times but you had to deal with it you have to go through it's not
01:32:19gonna treat you best always maybe one year out of 10 you might get and you have to love it to
01:32:23that degree so i would never suggest somebody getting in the music industry if they don't
01:32:27absolutely love it like yeah it has to be everything you wake up in the morning write a
01:32:31song you go to bed you're thinking about a melody i dream melodies like when i wake up in the morning
01:32:35i take voice notes and dream melodies and like when i go in the studio i was this person i forget
01:32:40to eat yeah yeah so if you don't have that level of drive i wouldn't suggest it but it's super easy
01:32:47to start youtube has everything you could possibly want to like you could pick up and learn how to
01:32:52use the programs to record start recording yourself start writing demos start even if
01:32:56you're into poems poems could turn into songs like you can start anywhere even if you just reach
01:33:01out to some of us producers and some of us are open like mill beats and spine and so forth they
01:33:05are doing a lot of stuff with younger people as well we want the change and we want the growth
01:33:11so it's not hard to get in but it's extremely hard to stay in yeah kit anything else you'd
01:33:16like to tell us before you leave us this morning um excuse me well well first of all i'd like to
01:33:20say thank you for having me this morning i mean i i take about five blocks to find the parking lot
01:33:25but it's all good it's all good energy nonetheless that could be a song at five blocks to find the
01:33:30parking lot go ahead what i would say is we we pray and we're hopeful that this first initiative
01:33:36gets the love from the public and at least one of the songs that we do um reaches to the point
01:33:41of success for one of these artists so we could continue doing it and any level of investment
01:33:46and sponsorship we could get because it is a expensive venture we we would take it and we
01:33:51hope that we could collaborate with radio stations and other platforms to see if we could
01:33:56just get the youth forward and that's the end that's it yeah kit thank you very much for coming
01:34:01this morning you know and thank you for the music i think that sometimes we hear the music but we
01:34:07don't know the men and women behind the music so it's always good to to put a face to to the
01:34:13positive face to go with it well they will decide but it was a pleasure speaking with you and i'm
01:34:19sure that we are in for some more great music for carnival 2025 and we wish you all all the
01:34:27success and your other colleagues involved in this exercise thank you very much appreciate it all
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01:37:54all right so welcome back everyone you know it's always good to meet positive young people
01:38:00and also to praise them for the contributions that they continue to make to trinidad and tobago
01:38:06all right so you're calling us on 623-1711 the extension it's 1995 we just have about how much
01:38:12time boy what we have about 15 minutes today to take some of your calls have your say but be
01:38:17responsible right you're calling us on 623-1711 the extension it's 1995 farley radical response
01:38:25needed now tobago house of assembly chief secretary farley augustine will lead a major
01:38:30meeting of national security personnel tomorrow to deal with the escalating crime situation in
01:38:35tobago he says what is needed is a radical response to crime all right so augustine made
01:38:44the announcement when questioned by reporters on the increasing murder toll on the island yesterday
01:38:49at the official commissioning of the shervin store bay connector road and roundabout project
01:38:54he says on thursday i had already planned weeks ago a meeting among the security apparatus on the
01:38:59island meaning representatives from all of the veering security factions and also some private
01:39:05sector and institutions from 10 a.m he says i'm fed up of the meetings fed up of the talk what
01:39:13is needed now is a radical response all right so the words there of the chief secretary farley
01:39:20augustine and pleasant bill is on the line pleasant bill good morning morning morning
01:39:27marlon is interesting that mr farley knows what is needed now um or when he's being offered that
01:39:35assistance um he's refusing to work with what's provided um so he he was interesting but what i
01:39:45want to discuss very quickly madame is that decision by ebc chairman to to me unilaterally
01:39:53declare um this position um to have people declare their allegiance yes political allegiance
01:40:03allegiance and whether you're an activist um but the thing is madame ebc according to the
01:40:12constitution can um develop their own procedure but they must also have what is called a quorum
01:40:23and this quorum consists of three members of the commission so i don't know if he is in the right
01:40:31here whether or not he got senior council advice it doesn't necessarily mean that that advice is
01:40:37good advice yes i don't think it's something that he should stay in a workshop setting
01:40:43and make an announcement on so that is something that is very curious
01:40:50all right thank you very much he said and that's the ebc chairman mark ram kerry sing he said
01:40:55the ebc got legal advice on whether it could ask returning officers to declare their political
01:40:59allegiance and also to disclose whether they were a member of any political party he noted people had
01:41:05a right to political affiliations the senior council advised a senior councillor advised that
01:41:11the ebc can make this request and these would be valid questions he said but his closing of party
01:41:18allegiance and membership would only apply to the 41 returning officers and not to all 16 000 people
01:41:26who work for elections so if i approach you and i ask you what is your political allegiance
01:41:31how do i know that you're telling me the truth yeah
01:41:38suppose i say i have no political allegiance you have to you have to believe that not so
01:41:43i i guess you can only determine one's political allegiance by their actions
01:41:49not so all right you're calling us on 623 17 11 uh the extension it's 1995
01:41:54was somebody in studio say they don't have any all right
01:41:57you're calling us on 623 17 11 the extension it's 1995 parties express concerns over ebc policy
01:42:07yeah is it a a policy a new and rigid policy let me see yeah i'm going to have to read up a little
01:42:16more about that because i i got the impression that let me see ram kerry sing presented on he
01:42:22on he was speaking on the ebc in elections and so on right question and steps to ensure
01:42:30he got legal advice i don't know is it a policy yet i don't know this is a policy yet
01:42:34yeah political parties have expressed concern over any move by the elections and boundaries
01:42:40commission to have returning officers declared the political allegiance and party membership
01:42:46unc political leader kamala basar besassa told the express yesterday that she needs to have
01:42:51more information on the context and statement made by the ebc chairman all right nta leader
01:42:59gary griffith expressed deep concern over the move while the ebc claims this move is within
01:43:05its legal rights we firmly believe that it poses significant risks to the constitutional rights of
01:43:11citizens and does not effectively address the core issues of electoral integrity and impartiality
01:43:18all right santa cruz is on the line santa cruz good morning morning morning glad to see you
01:43:25again this morning thank you sir crime getting so much out of hand and i want to know how come
01:43:32they could put the law could put wearing a seat not wearing a seat belt a more serious crime
01:43:41than armed robbery
01:43:44armed robbery yeah they did so because a man robbed a gyro man and a reamer
01:43:50i see the man just like i seen you playing and clean on my tv i see the man playing so rubbing
01:43:55each other man armed robbery his partner hold a gun on the man and he robbed the man and when
01:44:01he reached in front the court they charged him a thousand dollars no demerit points he paid a
01:44:06thousand dollars and he just gave out the money he robbed and that's all that he's finished no jail
01:44:12nothing which is less than a seat belt if you catch me driving without a seat belt to charge
01:44:17him he got a thousand dollars and i'll get three different points he didn't know the merit points
01:44:23have a blessed morning one and a point mallard it is really nice when you're on tv it'll make
01:44:28me proud my brother nice man thank you you're calling us on 63 17 11 the extension it's 1995
01:44:35and you know people continue to speak about the judiciary and some of the judgments
01:44:43handed down instructions handed down but you know what has been the the argument the the argument
01:44:50is these are the laws and we are abiding by the laws and these are what the laws provide us with
01:44:57and that's all that we are doing all right but people have been calling for a discussion
01:45:02concerning that some of the rulings that we have been seeing in the courts i don't know if it is
01:45:08going to happen but there is hope all right you're calling us on 623 17 11 the extension it's 1995
01:45:16analyst focus on nine target constituencies next election political analyst dr bishnu ragunath
01:45:22has identified nine target constituencies that political parties may focus on in the upcoming
01:45:29general elections all right it's coming you know everybody it's coming when you see january hits
01:45:36next year that's the beginning of the campaign you know i could imagine what is going to happen
01:45:40to the talk shows and and so on yeah so it's going to be a very very interesting year you're calling
01:45:47us on 623 17 11 the extension it's 1995 so in florida prison for 38 years for double murder
01:45:57ramesh's brother dies at 85 so krishna mirage older brother of former attorney general ramesh
01:46:04lawrence baharaj died on monday while still incarcerated in a florida prison after being
01:46:11charged and convicted for the murders of father and son derek and duane mooyoung in a miami hotel
01:46:18room in 1986 penile is on the line penile good morning hi good morning morning question
01:46:30caller caller wait change your position a little bit because we're not hearing you
01:46:36okay hearing me go ahead let's try again go ahead yes i'm calling
01:46:44of the uh
01:46:48um i got a ticket uh-huh i tried to process the ticket
01:46:55the details given i was there and nothing was even in the system
01:47:04but i'd mostly i didn't see a judge
01:47:07uh um i and the tickets are still there but we didn't know what will be
01:47:14i know that there is an address at the back of the ticket not so
01:47:18that you can contact them i did all right and what have they told you
01:47:24they said that they don't have a solution right now but everything
01:47:28here's what ma'am my advice to you is to because i don't want a situation where on christmas morning
01:47:36police come with a warrant for you um so i think that you need to get um adequate and
01:47:43and additional advice concerning this matter yeah and it may it may be um of benefit to go down to
01:47:51of benefit to go down to the court and speak to someone and take names there
01:47:56and and and what date and who spoke to you and all of that because as i said sometimes
01:48:04information is not relayed to the various authorities the different authorities so
01:48:11someone may tell you something and another agency doesn't know about it so you know get all of the
01:48:18information as i said take names take phone numbers what date you went down to the court
01:48:24all of that information because as i said i know how things are and you may think well that's the
01:48:30end of the matter and next thing you know six years from now on carnival monday the police
01:48:37approach you in your costume and lock you up if you display masks but you get the point i'm making
01:48:45who you dress up a sunday morning getting ready to go to church and the police come to lock you up
01:48:50all right this is that's reality you know that is reality all right so you're calling us on 623
01:48:571711 the extension it's 1995 so getting back to mr mirage's brother the 85 year old trinidad
01:49:05born british citizen has spent the last 38 years in jail having been found guilty and initially
01:49:11sentenced to death that sentence was eventually commuted to life behind bars all right so mr
01:49:18mirage ramesh mirage that is he was interviewed and he says that he issued a statement on his
01:49:27brother's passing saying there was never a doubt in his mind that he was innocent all right so
01:49:35we're taking another call maravel good morning hi good morning morning ma'am
01:49:42hi i'm calling to talk about two things one with respect to the appointment of
01:49:47mr kate cockman in admonition national security it seems i do not know what level of sensibility
01:49:55was applied in that point being handling um a defense
01:50:00i said you have the criminals across the board
01:50:07so i'm not sure hello are you hearing me we're we're trying we're trying but i i i do i think
01:50:16that we we do get the gist of of your point all right but we're having great difficulty in hearing
01:50:21you all right so you're calling us on 623 1711 the extension it's 1995 so you can please um call
01:50:28us now according to the count in the express newspaper today we are at 364 murders for 2024
01:50:41not a very good figure at all yeah and the police will continue to tell you well there are other
01:50:48there are successes happening in other areas you know and we are we continue to be judged
01:50:54on the murder count but to me that is the that is the big kahuna yeah and that is a problem that
01:51:03we need to deal with so you call you're calling us on 623 1711 uh the extension it's 1995
01:51:12porter spain is on the line for the spain good morning hello good morning morning i'd like you
01:51:18know we always talk about the bad but i am talking about the good go ahead i had a really wonderful
01:51:26experience in the montglobe hospital yesterday everything was on time i collected my prescription
01:51:35in a very efficient manner all right thank you well thank you very much it's always good when
01:51:40we get good news all right so thank you to all of our callers uh for today i enjoyed speaking
01:51:45with all of you all right we are going to a very short break everybody be coming back
01:52:01if you could see what the future holds you'd see that while things change
01:52:07you've still got it you are strong resilient inspiring and you won't be defined by time
01:52:17you'll own every minute of it because you were made for more discover how alive
01:52:25multivitamins by nature's way help you age vibrantly
01:52:45lift my eyes unto the hills we only have one place to go for help
01:52:51hallelujah so i celebrate in jesus
01:53:10long time we grew up learning to respect our elders but what about children do we need to
01:53:16give and show respect to children as well we certainly do and i'll tell you why
01:53:24showing respect to your child can help them feel valued and build their self-esteem respect is a
01:53:31two-way road they show respect to you and in turn you give them a chance to speak listen to their
01:53:38opinions and treat them with kindness and courtesy showing respect to children also helps them to
01:53:45succeed later in life so remember children deserve respect too at the end of the day keep
01:53:52trying your best and share if you found this useful like and follow our profile for more
01:53:57parenting tips the letter of the day is r for respect
01:54:15well they're going into the crates for that song
01:54:22just thinking a little bit about of this song who is it from
01:54:26nadila fun all right
01:54:32thank you very much for the music thank you very much for the music um that's going to be a
01:54:36program for today exciting times right so kishon uh we have to wait for tomorrow right and then
01:54:43we have jerome today right all right so we're hoping for for good results have a good day
01:54:48everybody see you right back here tomorrow morning give us some more of the music
01:55:05i won't stop trying there's no use denying i need you today
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