00:00we got the browns texans on sunday here in cleveland the browns finally back at home
00:05and we talked yesterday about the the playoff swing for both teams here the texans have about
00:11a 33 swing on this game uh winning this game would take them up to i think it was like
00:1742
00:17percent uh losing it would drop them down no i'm sorry i'm actually reversing them uh winning would
00:23put them above 50 chance of making the playoffs they would still have about a 70 chance or sorry
00:2917 chance what are you trying to say right now i'm butchering it uh yesterday you said it was in
00:33the 40s if they won did that change i don't know i'm trying to remember something from a day ago
00:38and we're starting to see the real problem with my memory and things that happened yesterday
00:42i remember 33 percent that's the for yeah for the texans 33 swing for the texans okay 30 swing for
00:50the browns there we go um and while the browns need a big get right game just get a damn
00:57win game
00:58uh nobody on this team needs a get right game better than jared verse and today he met with
01:04the media and you know jared usually a little bit more high energy a little bit more boisterous a
01:09little bit more more vociferous today i thought he was a little low key and he did share some of
01:14the
01:14things that he's kind of been working on to try and get where he wants to be i think it
01:19was just a
01:19mental aspect of the game i can we could be here all day and i could talk to you about
01:22each key play
01:23that we played all season long but i think that would be a waste of all of our time it's
01:26just simple to
01:27say you know i think the browns fans are upset about i'm upset about it i think we all have
01:30a
01:30reason to be upset i just haven't done enough and i think i've taken any time to figure out what
01:33the
01:33issue was i've attacked it i think i'm ready for this week so i appreciate this kind of transparency
01:39from jared um i feel like he's back to sounding like the guy that he did the first seven weeks
01:46of
01:46this season six weeks of this season and not the guy he sounded like a week ago after the
01:51stealers game so that gives me a little bit of hope here and the fact that he's identified something
01:57yeah on some level that those two things i like where his energy is it he seems back to being
02:03the
02:03jared verse that we know and a little less defensive well and so what's interesting is that
02:08when we've talked about jared verse we've mainly talked about scheme and whether that's right or
02:11wrong for him right but there are so many other elements of this game and and the mental side of
02:15it you know we always think about this with quarterbacks like the mental part of it is such a big
02:19deal
02:19but how much of the mental side of it can weigh on someone like jared verse clearly a great deal
02:24yeah and you know it's interesting i know the browns have gone out of their way to say well
02:31he's not miles he doesn't have to be miles the reality is when you trade a player for player or
02:37a
02:38player is involved in a trade for for someone of miles's stature they are going to feel the pressure
02:44of that for sure and then when you compound that by having a very slow start to the season
02:48oh and then it further compounds with the kind of lead up to the steelers game and then the fallout
02:54from the steelers game specifically for jared oh and now they've lost two straight weeks that's
03:00this is this is a lot and i you know one of the things that concerned me coming off the
03:05steelers game
03:06was just how frustrated jared sound it sounded with his teammates how exasperated he sounded
03:15he's still got to go out and do it on the field and this is another opportunity of a matchup
03:21that
03:21there are some reasons to believe that this could be a good matchup to get going
03:26but from what you needed to hear i'm i'm far less concerned with jared right now today than i was
03:31a
03:31week ago and that's great because it had been probably three straight weeks of growing concern with
03:36jared and how he had been approaching things and how he'd been talking we're with at least you got a
03:41little more hope that maybe we get a get right game or just a just a decent game from jared
03:45on
03:45yeah i mean i can appreciate him acknowledging like i went to the team psychologist like i'm
03:49working really hard on this i guess just as a sports fan and someone sitting here talking to
03:52everybody i i do wonder like what does he do in three to four weeks though if he if the
03:56light bulb
03:57still hasn't gone on okay this wasn't the fix if it does if it if if the mental side of
04:01things
04:02isn't actually what he needed to fix is that just gonna then in turn make him even more frustrated
04:07and then the mental issues just come right back i mean the nice thing about uh the the way teams
04:12have this set up is the the the sports psychologist is always going to be there for sure and so
04:18i you
04:19know i i think sometimes i can only speak to my own experience with mental health i think a lot
04:24of
04:24people go i went to therapy this week and now i'm good and it's like that's not really how this
04:29works
04:29if something's if something's an impediment to you it is something that you work on over time
04:34i don't obviously have experience with sports psychologists but i'm going to assume that's a
04:39very similar situation of this is something to monitor and talk about each week yeah and so i
04:45don't know that we're going to have the aha two sack performance dad jared has arrived i do think
04:51though it in terms of his adjustment to the defense at some point i would expect from that side
04:57comfortability the defense there should be some sort of an aha moment from the sports psychology side
05:02that's i feel like that's more of a that's more of kind of a slow evolution over time yeah i
05:08i mean
05:08i again i have no idea and i have no idea how long he's already been attacking it right so
05:12that's that
05:12makes that conversation tough too i i just know in the amount of golf that i watch and and the
05:16amount
05:17of golf that i consume like the the sports psychology aspect of it is so huge in that sport i
05:22i'm
05:22i'm kind of surprised we don't hear more athletes go to this more consistently and like this this sport
05:27is obviously very different in that a lot of it is reactionary and a lot of it is but like
05:30your mental
05:31headspace has got to be everything when it comes to a player that's struggling yeah and i think
05:35why it matters is and i i understand that we trivialize the press conferences and and all the
05:41things that are said and and listen i pick apart what todd says and what some of the players say
05:46when a player comes out and says oh hey i've met with the team's uh sports psychologist i think i've
05:53identified something there that might be part of where i'm at that allow that brings me back to the
05:58fact he's a human i've liked the the kid well before he ever suited up for the browns i'm rooting
06:04for him because he does seem like a good teammate and somebody that has his head on right has the
06:09right priorities yeah right yeah he seems nice when he says things like i i care about helping the
06:15defense be the best defense it can be and i trust that the other stuff will come like the individual
06:20stuff will come it it has never sounded phony to me it hasn't that's the my favorite thing about
06:26jared is he does not sound phony on any regard and so i like this i hope that other fans
06:32will
06:32listen to jared talking about this and say all right yep here he's not miles garrett we have we
06:38have he put comments that put himself in the the crosshairs of us maybe we can give him a moment
06:44to breathe here but this texans game does allow you an opportunity here uh to to have a get right
06:50game whether you're jared verse or just the defensive line in general they're 26th in pass
06:56walk uh pass block win percentage yeah now here's the bad thing the saints are 27th so so the saints
07:04also afforded you that opportunity uh and and cj stroud is doing a really nice job of getting the ball
07:10out quickly but this is another opportunity for jared rice jared verse to have that game well and and
07:16the other part that and again he won't hear this part but i know everybody uh everybody watching
07:20the game will hear this part they will not stop talking about the season that will anderson is
07:23having yeah and will anderson becoming the best pass rusher in the game and so it's going to be a
07:27weird part of this game and a weird aspect of this game on one side of it and and not
07:32kidding even
07:32miles garrett included if you asked a lot of nfl people right now who the best pass rusher in the
07:36game is their answer is will anderson jr so that's going to be on one side like elevating him
07:40elevating this texans team that is number one in the nfl in sacks and doing everything they can that way
07:45and on the other side of it they're going to be talking about jared verse and the massive
07:49disappointment that he's been so far this year like that that i think that juxtaposition is just
07:54going to hit fans in the face all game long yeah and what i think is really important about where
07:59jared is is he's got eight games to show he fits this the system because i don't know i know
08:05everybody's focused about the contract extension and they have to pay him they don't have to pay him
08:09by the way but i do think if you get through 17 games with jared verse this year
08:14and he just doesn't fit the system i don't know why i don't know why you don't explore moving him
08:21to a place that he does fit because it's not like all of a sudden next year the defensive line
08:25is going
08:26to change the way you attack it because everybody else in that room uh interior you know edge rushers
08:31all those guys actually do fit this defense yeah you're not changing it for one guy and so that's
08:36where these conversations i mean we're all headed towards that conversation right there and whether or
08:39not you want to give him some sort of deal you're not giving him anywhere close to the deal i'm
08:43sure
08:43jared verse thought he was getting before the season started but yeah the next little stretch
08:47here is about showcasing some value there because we just haven't seen it yeah as much as everybody
08:51thinks jared verse is going to want the money this offseason i actually would be i would love to i
08:55would love to get right now who's less likely to want an extension between jared verse and the browns
09:01the browns or jared verse because i would imagine jared would be like i cannot put my name to paper
09:07i think they both sit down at the table and they look across and go yeah it's not the time
09:12isn't it
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