00:00our next guest is uh formerly of this very station this very show you now catch him on
00:05the bullpen podcast on the wise heart right we make it right call kyle wright hotline
00:11every single monday at 6 p.m it's adam the bull adam welcome back what's up guys how you doing
00:17hey man i'm good what's going on with you i mean yesterday was uh i almost cursed just now i
00:23throw
00:23you know i curse on my podcast and after so many years of radio every once in a while i
00:29got to
00:29catch myself now but i almost cursed that's all right i was gonna call it a blank a blank show
00:34yesterday the game but i didn't do it markotch had to dump me on friday because in a segment where
00:39i
00:40was bashing ken i i started to say one word and then another word started to creep out and then
00:47i paused and froze like a deer in headlights and so everybody saved my career there so that was nice
00:52i don't know about that the word on the street is ken called in the middle of that rant and
00:58and told
00:59him that you better dump that and not bad mouth me or heads were gonna roll that was the word
01:04huh
01:04yeah yeah i heard that too so you good sources and it's a little sensitive to criticism you guys know
01:09that i really i did not know at all all right uh let's go to the browns 27 to 6
01:17lost to the stealers
01:19uh that sucked didn't it there's really no lead in there it was just awful
01:24it was horrible it's and and you know even when you lose a close game at least there's some
01:31interesting storylines oh maybe they should have done this maybe they should have done that it's just
01:35they just got destroyed they weren't in the game i mean the way the stealers humiliated them at the
01:42end of the first half by being they they basically said yeah if we don't get in who cares that
01:46we didn't
01:47get kick the field goal we don't think the browns can do anything against us i mean that's such a
01:51humiliating moment and i understand because the stealers you know jared verse did a lot of talking
01:58and i don't have a problem with that but you talk you better back it up you walk through their
02:02their prac their pregame ritual you better back something up and he didn't did jared verse did
02:09he come out as the biggest loser through all this or no oh without a doubt i mean the defense
02:14as a
02:14whole was terrible but i mean so was the offense but yeah i mean he looks really bad right now
02:19because
02:20he's been doing a lot of talking and i don't want to you know throw it all away i think
02:24he's a good
02:24locker room guy there's no doubt about it and i think he's a good player that's just not playing
02:30particularly well right now but yes jonathan he is comes up as a total biggest loser he got body
02:36slammed on a play and and he and he did nothing he was a complete zero in the game
02:43is any of yesterday on munkin of course i mean you got to give him some of the blame he's
02:51the head
02:51coach the team couldn't the stealers came into that game ticked off about what happened the first time
02:58ticked off about the talking the team had done and they sent the message right away with some huge hits
03:04and physical play and the browns were not up for the challenge so yeah he has to be given you
03:11know
03:11we've been lauding him deservedly so all season but you lose a game like that yes he gets there's
03:19plenty of blame for him plenty of blame to go around adam pittsburgh rushed for 200 yards including
03:24160 in the first half so a couple weeks ago it was braylon allen then it was tony pollard and
03:28now
03:28it's jaylen warren it seems like every running back can just go for basically whatever number they want
03:32against this browns run defense yeah it's a big problem right now and you know i know mason graham
03:38is banged up but i'm sorry you know you're when you're when you're on the field you're expected
03:44to perform we can't if i'm going to give you credit for playing with the injury like i did for
03:50carson swessinger last week well if he doesn't play well i'm not going to say well but he's hurt well
03:56everybody's hurt it's the nfl everybody's a little banged up yeah sure some worse than others
04:01but the the the defensive line in particular that again we've lauded their great play and all their
04:08sacks and how well they perform without miles garrett well the last two weeks they were absolute trash
04:14and the steelers like their passing game is is nothing special as we all know so you could be
04:21one-dimensional and i don't want to say they were one-dimensional like this it wasn't the buck
04:25situation but you could you know like eight yards to carry for jaylen eight yards to carry i mean
04:33that's that's like a division one school playing a division three school adam any working theory on
04:41the browns first quarter woes is if they've now been outscored hell is it 67 to 13 in there might
04:50as
04:50be a million yeah i i wish i had a a brilliant theory for you to like make myself look
04:56really
04:57smart but i unfortunately do not i guys i can't predict anything right now nothing makes sense in
05:03the nfl you know like is that enjoyable to you that nothing makes sense right now or are you
05:09frustrated by that my prediction like i'm usually good at picking games versus the spread i'm terrible
05:15this year i mean i'm getting it's i don't know how you predict anything right now it nothing nothing
05:20makes sense somebody asked me what's the biggest surprise in the league i'm like there's a thousand
05:24surprises in the league is that is that good for the nfl though is that good is that is that
05:29is it
05:30good that we can't predict it at all or that we feel i mean it does kind of stink to
05:33not feel sure
05:34about anything yes i i get what you're saying but don't we want that ultimately i know it's frustrating
05:42you know because we all have egos and like i want my picks to be right i want to be
05:46right and then
05:47i feel like an idiot every time i'm wrong but i think when when you watch sports you want it
05:53to
05:53be unpredictable like you know you you want the unexpected to happen so i actually think it's more
05:59good than bad but to answer your question nick i i can't explain it um they they have played
06:06outside of the first dealer game yeah i mean it's just like it's like they're never ready to play
06:14and you know and obviously they've stayed in most of these games but and the thing is
06:19outside of the bangles and the giants so i don't even really buy into every other team they're playing
06:25the rest of the year is 500 or below so they might still win plenty of games and we might
06:31still think
06:31they're not very good well yeah that's kind of what you know one of the questions we started the
06:35show off with is this is this just one loss or do the browns have bigger problems but we just
06:39kept
06:39going back to that idea that the schedule is not going to give us a chance to find out if
06:43they're
06:43really any good at any point for the remainder of the season anyway either right i mean because
06:48you know and obviously the bank nobody every team's flawed but outside of the bangles like what's the
06:55really tough game yeah so who i mean i don't listen the browns it wouldn't surprise me if the browns
07:01beat the saints it wouldn't surprise me if they got boat raced by the saints anything could happen
07:05but the browns could could win in theory they could win 10 11 games and we might be saying i
07:12don't
07:12know i don't think they're very good but they won 10 games that's not crazy all right adam lamar
07:19jackson potentially suffering the season ender yesterday tight uh tyler huntley also long-term
07:26injury with a toe injury joe finiano didn't play very well so some of the names linked to the ravens
07:33in
07:33the trade market tyson bajant jacoby brissett is there a name you think makes most sense for
07:40baltimore if they do make a trade for a quarterback i would actually say i know he's going to start
07:48this week for arizona but i would say gardner minshu in but the in the end though without if
07:55lamar doesn't come back this year it doesn't matter none of those guys are going to be good enough
07:58there there's nobody that's good enough out there that's going to make them get to the playoffs i
08:05can't although i shouldn't say that because as i said can't predict anything but i don't think
08:10there's any quarterbacks out there i mean the ravens are probably going to finish in last place
08:14they're gonna you know they're gonna have a tough time winning anything their defense is you know not
08:21great and derrick henry's there was a rumor today about i shouldn't say it was a rumor but somebody
08:27suggested maybe the ravens will trade derrick henry and just play for the future it's not a crazy
08:31idea can i float a name i don't if i had to say i'd say gardner minshu but i i
08:37i don't because they
08:38should just start uh what's his name the rookie i know they're starting minshu i can't think of his
08:42name the cardinals rookie quarterback oh carson back yeah yeah they might as well just start him and find
08:47out what they got with him at this point but you know teams don't want to do that they allegedly
08:52want to give you the best chance to win and you know gardner minshu is good for like two three
08:56good
08:56games before he falls off the cliff as usual what's your name nick jimmy g oh jimmy g old and
09:02broke
09:02but yeah he's been out all year though old and broke and that means he's fresh mac jones
09:08no why would the 49ers trade match up mac jones they like purdy that's true purdy's been healthy but
09:14it makes no sense yeah yeah they're gonna they're playing for a super bowl you don't want to
09:18yeah yeah they need the they need insurance the same way a lot of teams do uh is it is
09:22it crazy
09:23to think that if shadora hadn't blocked the ravens taking them he would be not only the starter of
09:28last year at certain points but he also would have been the starter right now currently in this setup
09:33i don't even buy that that's true has anybody acknowledged that for the ravens that the shadora
09:38what are the odds they're gonna win that game not great basically basically not great all right
09:45so there's uh there's two things one we didn't get enough credit for pushing back on emory hunt
09:50after the segment and talking about how neither of us agreed on that not from you necessarily but
09:55twitter really roasted the clip and it was like guys oh i hate that nonsense though yeah why do people
10:02they can't read adam there's no reading comprehension it's gonna be crazy i know some people use that as an
10:06uh uh an opportunity to knock you i'm like this is stupid people are so dumb just because a guest
10:12says something on the show doesn't mean you agree with it now that being said yeah i'm torn on joe
10:18burrow's performance six touchdowns is insanely impressive but three ints are why he needed the six
10:26touchdowns i would say my my comment on joe burrow's performance is i thought he played he played one of
10:33the worst games i've seen him play and he still threw for 400 yards and six touchdowns so that's
10:38just crazy that's how good he is is that he can overcome play because the first pick was not his
10:43fault he got hit but the second and third picks they were terrible i mean they were both awful throws
10:48the fumble goes on his account but it really was uh the um chase brown's fault but the second and
10:56third picks were 100 his fault and terrible throws any concern about a defense allowing 400 plus
11:02yards and then 300 plus to cam ward and a one and six titans team absolutely how could you not
11:07i mean
11:07their defense was terrible i know they had some guys left the game but again i don't use that as
11:13an
11:13excuse you got to play better dexter lawrence ultimately made a huge play in that game and he's
11:18great but they if you know there's been a lot of talk about the bengals trying to trade for more
11:23offense which i have no problem with but they need to improve in the back seven their d-line is
11:29good
11:29even though they gave up a ton of rushing yards yesterday the d-line is good
11:33but the rest of their defense is very questionable outside of uh you know one or two players for
11:39your own knowledge adam uh i went back and looked at the shepter story about uh about about shador's
11:44camp being like we don't don't take us yet to baltimore uh dion confirmed that they asked both
11:50baltimore and philadelphia not to draft shador because of the established quarterbacks ahead of
11:54which means there's actually two spots where shador would probably be the starting quarterback
11:58if he had just let it play out that's a good job out of you that was a really silly
12:04thing for his
12:05camp to do made no say you're right he'd be starting for either of those teams right now
12:10isn't that funny if you were to guess like in the beginning of the year it would shador more likely
12:15be starting for the ravens the browns or the eagles you would have said the browns without even a
12:19second thought and obviously he's not and he would probably be starting for either of those teams you're
12:24right i want to i want to adopt a new rule in the nfl where you can only keep two
12:31quarterbacks
12:31on your roster and maybe like a developmental quarterback but then all the other quality
12:37quarterbacks so guys who are like lost in in translation like a jacoby brissette right now
12:42they're thrown into a big hopper and whenever you need it you can spin the quarterback carousel
12:47i'm thinking of like a gumball machine but it's like a big bucks no whammy situation and then it
12:51comes down this yeah you don't get to pick the guy you want you've got to just whoever you get
12:56from the the spin is who you get yes now you do get in one season you get to veto
13:02these or you get
13:02one do-over one do-over what but meaning like you can do the automatic re-spin but understand the
13:09risk
13:09is could be jimmy g it could be a frozen situation broken rowback yeah i don't even know who that
13:17player is the last person you said former browns quarterback thank you very much nobody remembers
13:21that it nick brings up the five-man quarterback race from the 2018 season as if everyone remembers
13:26it as if everyone remembers all five quarterbacks rowback was the one everyone forgets i have no
13:32recollection of him whatsoever that's a good job out of you remembering that i mean that is random right
13:36there just a stupid name that's why i remember it that's really good uh but i like that i mean
13:42there's
13:42some crazy stuff you can do with that and and it could be and if you get if you get
13:46the whammy
13:47do you lose your you should like have to lose something like jimmy has to lose a million dollars
13:53or something like that all right you know what yeah we'll work on this because you've already adopted
13:59my idea here i love this you guys both know it's ridiculous but i'll let it go in the in
14:04the name of
14:04good spirit we'll let it go like here's the thing it's a it's in the name of making more television
14:10for them to sell if you had a weekly quarterback draft for like teams that had like by this time
14:16of the season i mean again there could be a jacoby brissett sitting out there for free as opposed to
14:22trying to give up a fourth rounder for him do you want to use the spin now do you want
14:25to use it later
14:25i don't know i don't know david for what time of the year like what you could also do is
14:31have
14:32uh like retired quarterbacks and then so say the browns spin and they get uh warren moon now
14:38warren moon has to do public appearances for the browns instead of the the oilers slash titans or
14:44whoever he's doing public appearances for i still stand for warren moon i bet bernie would be pissed
14:48in this equation oh yeah we can't you know what we can't afford to lose bernie in that in that
14:53equation that's a that's a problem oh great stuff buddy appreciate you thank you guys talk to you
14:57later i'm the bull there you catch him every single week here on 92.3 the fan on with nick
15:05and
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