00:00so we open the show talking about frustrations with michigan and michigan state we talked with
00:05jared goff if you missed it we'll replay it today coming up at 12 30 we've got uh we haven't
00:11even
00:11really touched on the red wings and um you know the the the tension over the start of this season
00:18with dylan larkin requesting a trade now evanston wants a trade sounds like larkin's gonna play
00:22tonight though uh as you heard and not final but trending in that direction i got one more hurdle
00:30is tom mcclellan says he was skating on a line with victor arvidson and lucas raymond uh at the
00:36morning skate today he was out there in a power play unit as well so it looks like he's he's
00:41gonna
00:41play just has to get signed off on home game and you know that might be uncomfortable but hey man
00:49i think it'll be uncomfortable at times here's what i hope i i hope he scores early and then the
00:57booze will stop for a while i can understand the fans frustration i'm frustrated i don't like that
01:02a player asked to be traded and they're still on the team all these months later i don't like it
01:08either
01:09it doesn't speak well for either side that this is still the situation but it is what it is make
01:15the most of it making the most of it right now would be trying to help his teammates out and
01:19win
01:20games which it seems like he's got that right attitude he wants to play for his guys great go
01:24out there and do it and you're going to get booed every time you touch the puck for a while
01:29until
01:31you give them reason not to boo yeah i mean that's just part of the job but when you're a
01:38professional
01:39athlete is don't piss off the fans and if you piss off the fans it's going to get uncomfortable and
01:47you know some of the fans agree with them and that's fine too i'd want i'd want to be traded
01:52too
01:52but hey man um no you you paid handsomely to do a job and um it's a great job to
02:00have
02:02and you know this is i don't think there's anything fans can boo them boo you if they want
02:08it's a shame that it's come to this maybe the relationship gets repaired by the way he plays
02:15and somehow someway this team rallying but i don't i don't see that happening necessarily anytime soon
02:21it does help when you get some of your better players back which could happen with larkin and
02:25edvinson 248-539-9797 let's get back to your open line calls uh mike in dearborn hello mike
02:34hey guys you know i'm just kind of speculating here but i feel like uh brad holmes would much
02:40rather have a top 15 draft pick before he trades for a corner and um considering with the uh the
02:47stalling of the laporta negotiations it almost seems like he's getting ready to be on the move
02:54i feel like we're just going to end up being sellers rather than buyers by the time the trade
02:59deadline comes what are your guys thoughts on that do i think that the the lions are going to be
03:05sellers
03:08is that what he was asking i think so i don't think the i think it's quite possible the lions
03:13will sell
03:15they could sell laporta i don't know if they will i think they could but beyond that i expect them
03:20to be
03:20a team that's in the hunt for the playoffs i don't think they're yeah i i don't i don't see
03:26if i don't
03:27see a future where they're selling barring major collapse and i don't think this is going to be a
03:31major collapse when when they traded hawkinson they were a bad football team and they were looking to
03:36get assets that's why they traded hawkinson my proposal about even thinking about trading
03:44laporta is so that you add a player that helps you now it's not for future assets sellers but that's
03:51not a sell sellers move right no no not at all that's why i want to make sure i understood
03:55what
03:56he said there i know i don't i think the lions will have a winning record going into the trade
03:59deadline
04:00now i know not everybody believes that but i agree with you dave is next on 97 one hello dave
04:08hey guys um got a question um one what if it binds draft capital for next year and then two
04:17please explain to me the logic between giving up draft picks for signed productive young players
04:26this year and hanging on to them for an unknown entity next year i read an article on three guys
04:34that i think anywhere we could give up a third to a fifth round draft pick that would immediately help
04:39the lions one was zion mccollum who when the lions had played him he has given the lions fifth a
04:46corner
04:47from tampa for people who don't know yes he's sticky and he's physical another guy who i like because i'm
04:53a
04:53bit of a draft nick i've talked to you about this before a couple years ago he came out of
04:57notre
04:58dame he's not starting for um the chargers his name's cam hart and he's a long tall six to 195
05:06corner who would be at least a rotational player for us you can get maybe for a fifth round pick
05:12and then the article that i also saw was a guy named and i can't remember where this guy came
05:18from i don't
05:18know if he was from georgia kamari lassiter they said he's been getting a lot of penalties lately but
05:23he's a good cover quarterback and all these guys are signed you would have them for the next couple
05:27years and they're not they're signed to rookie deals okay i mean they're productive players and
05:32you know what you've got so let me waiting to find out but part of is there is there realistic
05:37and
05:37again dropping some of these names on i've heard mccollum before um but i i have seen no reporting that
05:44these players are available again champa's going down the tubes yes yes but why would they have
05:51everything you say you have to inquire yeah everything you say about a young player that's
05:55under contract when you're going down the tubes those are the players that you don't want you're
06:00the the players you hope that you're building around in the future and i'm just thinking about
06:03doing this show in in in tampa or doing a charger show or doing a texan show i'm not thinking
06:11about
06:11trading our best young players yeah the tigers weren't looking to trade max clark midway through
06:16the season when when things started to go back or i should say in in august what you're looking to
06:20do
06:21is trade guys that are at the end of their tenure with the respected teams guys i mean free agents
06:26or
06:26not david if you can get them great yeah but look at them i agree i think you can look
06:31at it two ways
06:32though i mean like you were just saying earlier you know you're when they traded hawkinson this team
06:37is going to be say tampa they're going to be in a rebuild they're going to have a new coach
06:40they're looking to acquire assets and they're getting rid of a contract but hawkinson was in a contract
06:45year no i understand that but i'm just saying this guy this they're getting rid of a guy who's
06:51signed to a 16 million dollar a year contract and they could get a pick for him get rid of
06:57shed some
06:58of the cap and just start fresh okay i think there's that way of looking at it as well i
07:02i guess i i will
07:05if you can get him great i will say if i'm doing this show in those cities i'm not in
07:10favor of trading
07:11our best young players under contract i i can understand that i mean i see that point of view
07:16but the other thing is with the lions if they could i still think i picked them to win 14
07:20games this
07:21year i think if they can somehow remedy this defense i still looked at their schedule and i think
07:28they are still capable of winning 11 games dave i i agree with you i had the same pick i
07:35still think
07:35they can do good things this year they may be getting to a point though where they won't do
07:40good things unless they trade for more talent and brad holmes parts with some of his coveted draft picks
07:46i'm not sure there's going to be a better deal than doing one better than dallas did to get
07:52joey porter jr but well interesting he brings up kamari lassiter and that was a name that we brought up
07:58a few years ago when we were looking at draft day shows and looking at corners and he is the
08:02corner
08:03from uh from georgia uh playing with houston right now and look houston's oh and four are they looking
08:09to make moves i'm sure they are um and so is tampa so are the chargers so does does that
08:15does that fit
08:16i mean he's not a free agent until after next year because he was a second round pick but it's
08:21somebody that they have to think about are they going to extend or not and if they know that they're
08:25not going to extend them they get draft capital form and sure sure call call but i don't know
08:32i mean those those are great names and yeah interest yeah i like the research i like but at
08:38the end of the day i i can't imagine that those teams want to move those players but you never
08:43know
08:43uh nick is in canton hello nick hey guys how's it going what's up i got two points one my
08:50first
08:50concern really is with brad because you know last year he ignored the whole line and it really kind
08:56of crushed the season and this year it seems like he ignored the secondary and four games into the
09:01season it seems like it's crushing us so why does it seem to take him a year to see what
09:06i can see
09:07sitting on my cup i don't know if they ignored the offensive line last year they they had some
09:13shifts they did draft they drafted a player in the first round or second round most tate rallies he was
09:18second round and started for them they signed they brought glasgow back last year right yeah um and
09:25then they they had already put the draft capital in giovanni manu and uh those guys didn't pan out
09:31right yeah but you know i mean they didn't do enough but i don't think they ignored it and i
09:36don't think
09:37well they let the offensive line was the problem last year they let zeitler walk frank ragdonald
09:44retired and they replaced those two with glasgow and a rookie which i think ratlet is going to turn out
09:51to be a great player but for where that team was and what that team needed and for their scheme
09:56knowing that derrick goff is a pocket passer they did not do what needed to be done i will say
10:02this
10:02let's let's also remember that frank ragdonald didn't do many favors as to when he retired
10:07that was kind of tough last year the offense finished fifth in the nfl in points per game
10:14like yes that wasn't i mean the problem was it could have been better sure but the problem was
10:19kirby joseph brian branch getting hurt other players getting hurt not having enough depth and
10:27i'm i think down the list there is that the offensive line i mean look they tried bringing
10:31frank ragdonald back or frank was going to come back and then oh wait i do have a torn hamstring
10:36what
10:36happened i didn't know that the there's a difference between making the wrong moves
10:41and ignoring like this year with the secondary i don't think they ignored it but it doesn't look
10:48like the players that they brought in to be stop gaps until they got their players back and specifically
10:53branch and i mean maybe they thought they were going to get kirby do you think it's prioritized
10:57enough though maybe not maybe not but who who they brought in i've talked about the challenges of
11:03doing that when players know that they're going to be returning all pro players or pro bowl players
11:08what safety that's really good is going to say yeah i'll go there and then compete with brian branch
11:13well i mean but but could he have done more yes it's not as easy as people think though no
11:19it's not
11:19but if you go back to you know reporting back in december when uh when joseph had talked about and
11:26and there was huge uncertainty there's huge uncertainty with him and then he didn't address in the draft
11:32huge uncertainty with him and huge uncertainty with terry on arnold and and that might have been a
11:36massive miscalculation it's it's not easy to find great players doug you're right but do we even get
11:41any reports of them going out and looking at anyone whether to trade or you know all we heard was
11:47it
11:47was maddox and clark that that was been the plan like the entire time was a christian isian and
11:52mccreary were brought in as well to help the secondary i mean but yeah you're gonna fill roster spots but
11:57i mean are those guys players well again like i said it might have been a miscalculation but that's
12:01a different he said ignore and i don't know that that's ignoring it might not be doing enough yeah
12:06or he or he got the wrong guys he really swung and missed i think you're right i think they
12:10did
12:11something but it clearly wasn't enough uh all right two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven
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