00:00We've got a couple of people who want to rap about the NBA stuff.
00:03We'll get to you in a second.
00:04Just sit tight.
00:05I want to mix this in.
00:07And maybe this is a mistake.
00:08Maybe people are tired of it.
00:09But it's fascinating.
00:12One note for Jeremy's update.
00:14Yes, Evanson was skating in Nashville.
00:16No, the wings are not in Nashville.
00:18They're in Vegas.
00:20His agency, CAA, and his reps rented the ice for him to skate, stay in shape.
00:27And yes, he was in a Red Wings jersey.
00:29That's like a recruit wearing Michigan gloves.
00:32And they go to Oregon.
00:33I wouldn't read too much into it.
00:36But I'm just throwing that out there.
00:38And everyone turns into, it's happening.
00:40It's happening.
00:41No, it isn't.
00:41I don't know.
00:42But the Larkin thing is really wild.
00:45We got an update from Pierre LeBrun on the day.
00:47And it's symbolism.
00:49I know there's nothing more.
00:51They have taken the Dylan Larkin banner down at LCA.
00:56Anyway, Pierre LeBrun has reported what I think we all knew was going to happen.
01:05Sean Horkoff wants them to expand the list beyond the 10 teams he has.
01:10He's exhausted in his mind.
01:13Realistic options.
01:15And while Dylan sits home and loses $41,000 a day, his reps have declined.
01:23They have rejected the request.
01:25There is a prevailing thought in the league.
01:27Had he added even just Montreal or just Boston, this deal would have been done like a week ago, two
01:37weeks ago.
01:38Montreal, very interesting.
01:39They will.
01:39And they are on the outside of the approved list.
01:44So you are in this spot where it truly has gotten as bad as it could get.
01:52Because, look, to your point, when you were saying all summer, Mike, he's going to show up to camp.
01:58And I said he can't because it's not sustainable.
02:02You can't show up only to then be traded, you know, three games in.
02:06Okay.
02:07So he shows up.
02:08You were right.
02:08I was wrong.
02:10But then I was right.
02:12Because what I said would happen happened is the goodwill is finite.
02:16It's a parking meter.
02:17And it's not one of the good ones where you can buy, like, all-day parking.
02:21You get an hour.
02:23And he goes home.
02:24They come and chalk your tires.
02:25Right.
02:26So now he's at home.
02:28Him losing money is not my concern.
02:30I actually respect it.
02:31If he doesn't want to be here enough, that he's willing to lose the money.
02:35Now, again, he's not getting paid.
02:37It's not like they're taking it out of his bank account.
02:39He's losing $41,000 a day.
02:41Okay.
02:42So you sit here, Rico, and I go, all right.
02:45How exactly does this end?
02:49The Wings?
02:50Now, look, Larkin started with a three-team list.
02:52He goes to 10 teams.
02:55Plays.
02:56Team doesn't get a deal done.
02:59He goes home.
03:01Team asks for an expanded list.
03:03He says no.
03:05We are currently sitting in a spot where I don't know what they do.
03:11Because for all the people saying good, let them rot in hell and sit home, all right, appreciate your perspective,
03:18that's not good asset management.
03:22That's not helping move the franchise forward.
03:26Now, have the Wings been plucky early on?
03:29Sure.
03:30What I don't want to hear from people is, well, they're dead last in the Atlantic.
03:35Well, right, but it's like six points separates last and first.
03:39Do I think they're a playoff team?
03:40No.
03:42But for right now, they've been a little bit galvanized with Dylan going home and a little bit of a
03:48scheduled loss the night before that.
03:50Fine.
03:51Okay, you lose to Tampa.
03:52Who cares?
03:52You're like a minus 300.
03:53You know, you're a dog.
03:54Right.
03:55Rico, I would love to know from the hockey elite where this goes.
04:00Because I'm not yelling, screaming, ranting, raving.
04:03We are in the theater of the absurd, brother.
04:05This guy's staying home.
04:06He expanded his list.
04:08They say the list isn't good enough.
04:09They want more.
04:11He says no.
04:12He's at home.
04:13Meanwhile, you got Evanson renting ice time to just skate on his own.
04:20Is there closure to either of these in the near term?
04:25No.
04:26I can help you out with that.
04:27Well, December 1st for Evanson is going to be the circle, the calendar.
04:31If he doesn't sign by December 1st, he can't play.
04:34He cannot play.
04:36And if he wants out that bad, that is his prerogative.
04:39And you know what?
04:39But here's the thing.
04:40Remember, the wings lose leverage, too.
04:43Because then they lose him for nada.
04:47I could go over to the glass here, get the grease pencil, and draw it up on the board to
04:52help you out.
04:52What do you want to do?
04:53I don't think anything happens.
04:56And the reason, I'm going to just make it very simple.
05:00Nothing's going to happen because who's making the decision to make the trade?
05:07That's where the problem lies.
05:09Because I think if the wings had a real general manager or somebody who was the permanent guy, we have
05:17a direction.
05:18This is what I'm going to do.
05:20And I'm handcuffed to this decision.
05:23If it blows up in my face, I got to take all the heat.
05:27I'm responsible.
05:28I'll get fired.
05:30You can't do this and then ask somebody else to come in after you've made these two deals.
05:37So what will happen?
05:40It's just like he was never supposed to show up to camp.
05:43That's what makes sense.
05:44That's what makes hockey sense.
05:46It makes sense, period.
05:47You a Seinfeld guy?
05:48Yeah.
05:49We're in the bizarro.
05:50Yes.
05:50This is the bizarro.
05:52Yes.
05:53Where because you don't have this, this will be the new, you know,
05:59test case that people will talk about for years.
06:01Well, remember when Detroit went through all of that.
06:04I don't know how this story, this is truly choose your own adventure.
06:07I think the other right now, I think that Evans is December 1st.
06:11We'll come and go.
06:12So you think Evans and doesn't play?
06:14No.
06:14Wow.
06:15Because who's going to, who's going to make the decision to say, okay, he's coming back.
06:20We're going to sign him.
06:21We're going to move him.
06:22You don't have that.
06:23Call me Kornacki.
06:25I'm not ready to make a call in that district.
06:27I'm not ready to do what you're doing.
06:28That's fine.
06:29Can I appeal to the John, whoever on CNN?
06:34I forget that cat's name.
06:36I don't know.
06:36I flipped all over on election.
06:37Well, I wanted to see meltdowns and different things.
06:40Excitement.
06:40You know, it's all chaos.
06:41You think that's something?
06:42Don't worry about it.
06:43Go here.
06:43Go to this county.
06:44Look, there's five people in line right now.
06:46Let's go ahead and talk to them.
06:47There's a sale on pub subs.
06:50Can I appeal to the hockey elite?
06:52Would you care, you know, a few days after election night in America, would you care to call
06:57a race, please?
06:58Can you tell me right now in your big hockey brain how this all ends?
07:04And here, let me be very fair.
07:07While I have been Team Larkin, it is getting increasingly difficult because here's your thing.
07:13The team has found some deals they are willing to take and not send him to terrible places.
07:21It's not like we're sending you to Winnipeg, which by all accounts is a pretty terrible place.
07:27Sorry to my people in Manitoba.
07:29But he's refusing even that and now is sitting at home.
07:34How does that end and where does the Evanston thing go?
07:38Well, it's just, man, it's wild.
07:45And the banner's down.
07:47Not the banner.
07:49By God, not the banner.
07:50That's the final, you know what?
07:53Let's just go ahead and that's somebody walking past the building saying, I'm sick of looking
07:57at his face.
07:58Get that banner down.
07:59He's not coming back.
08:00Well, he's not a Red Wing.
08:01Right.
08:02I mean, that's the bottom line.
08:03But the point is, it's reached a stage.
08:06He can't come back.
08:08Coming back is not an option.
08:11So the wings in, okay, this is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face.
08:19The wings have inflicted so much damage upon themselves for so long.
08:23They've almost in a weird way kind of started to turn the tide of the arm wrestling match.
08:29Where now, the card Larkin could play about not showing up is gone.
08:36Then he shows up, tries to be a good soldier to get what he wants.
08:41Doesn't.
08:42And the wings still didn't get it done.
08:45So now, he's thrown the hand grenade and shut the bedroom door.
08:49He can't come back.
08:50Right.
08:50It's truly the ultimate standoff.
08:53But, Rego, if he doesn't increase his list, I really don't know that if the wings, look, the wings could
09:01have had a package done with that list at any point.
09:03And they didn't.
09:05If they do that now, they can't look themselves in the mirror.
09:09If Larkin tried to come back, he can't look himself in the mirror.
09:13And let's be real.
09:13He would be rejected in the room.
09:16So, I'm fascinated by him.
09:18See, I don't think he's going to expand the list, Mike, because he wants to go play for a winner.
09:23And the people on his list, they're winning teams.
09:26I don't want to go through this again.
09:29I don't want to go through a building.
09:30I want to go to an established team, a cup contending team right here, right now.
09:37I've done my time.
09:39I did boot camp in Detroit.
09:41I'm ready to graduate.
09:42And I'm ready to go play for a real team.
09:44I think it's going to be difficult for him because the second he does, the wings, once it's a team
09:51that, you know what, fine, I'll lower my standards.
09:55The second he lowers it that much, the team will make a move.
09:57And now he's going to be someplace and he's not going to be happy.
09:59You've gone through all of this.
10:02You might as well be happy because.
10:04And the money isn't his.
10:06Right.
10:07All he is is not getting more money.
10:10Saying you're losing 40 G's a day or whatever a game check is saying you're losing the money sounds worse.
10:18But you have to look at it from the player perspective.
10:21Dylan's already earned how much in his life?
10:24You're not losing what wasn't yours.
10:26You're just not getting a check.
10:28It's no different than, you know, an executive who his company gets bought out at 50 and he takes a
10:34year off and then goes back to work at 51 when the no compete is done.
10:39So he's not sitting at home eating chunky soup.
10:43Shout out Donovan McNabb's TV mom.
10:45But I just can the hockey elite assist.
10:48This is reaching a really amazing place.
10:52And again, Rico's making a call.
10:54I'm not.
10:55I'm not going to call it in that district.
10:57Rico's saying, Evanson ain't signing by December 1.
11:01Hockey elite.
11:02I can't.
11:02Do we?
11:03I have the matter horn.
11:04Hold on.
11:04Our hockey elite horn.
11:07The phone lines are wide open for you.
11:09And yes, we've got a few people who want to talk about the NBA.
11:11Wemby, the Pistons last night.
11:13248-539-9787.
11:15I was going to say, who makes a move first?
11:17The Lions or the Wings?
11:18248-539-9787.
11:20Lions.
11:21You didn't say scale of move.
11:22You just said move.
11:25248-539-9787.
11:27I want to hear from the people.
11:28Hockey elite, if you're there, I need your services.
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