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Lerin Gaines

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04:52Some of those things that you've learned as you've gone through life and it's those things that you wish that

05:00maybe somebody had told you about this prior.

05:05Or as I go ahead and flip it, because you know how I like to flip it and give you

05:09the remix of it.

05:10If you were anything like that.

05:40text a friend, share this podcast out. We are on so many different platforms and continue to grow

05:47inch by inch by inch every single moment. So I have to say thank you so much. Could not do

05:53that

05:53without you. I do want to say a special welcome to Pandora Radio.

06:02Another very special welcome to XM Radio, Sirius Radio.

06:09Now, if you asked me years ago, did I ever think that the 411 podcast would be where it is

06:15here

06:16today? And me actually being a podcaster, if I would be actually in this space here today,

06:21I would have to say absolutely not. I remember just hitting play six years ago, straight from

06:28Instagram. Simple, just right from my phone, right from my phone, right in my mother's living room,

06:3820 followers. And now it's to the point where I actually really stopped counting. I stopped

06:45counting. I'm going to go and get an official count before, you know, official count again. But

06:50again, it's not even about the followers. It's just about the movement. It's about the growth and it's

06:56the space and how comfortable I am now actually being a podcaster. So again, thank you all so

07:06much. Cannot do it without you. And I most certainly cannot do it without my executive producer.

07:10I want to thank God for giving me all of this because without you, there is no me and there

07:16would be no 411 podcast. And you gave me all of this to create and you gave it to me.

07:21And now I'm

07:22just basically pushing it out and giving it to the world. So thank you all again so much. I

07:26definitely do appreciate you. And thank you to all of the special guests that have been

07:30supporting over the years coming on the show. We have Jonathan Domsky. We have Birdman tonight.

07:39We have Shauntie Refuge coming in. We have Jenna Jakes, Lisa Clancy. I believe I got it right.

07:48Excuse me if I get the names wrong. But we have some great guests coming on this week. So

07:54yeah, thank you all. Appreciate you. Could not do it without you.

08:09Well, we here. And this is my favorite segment. One of my favorite segments. You know what

08:15it is. It's song of the day.

08:25Okay. So this is an old school song from the 60s, I believe, but it was recently remade

08:31in 2009 from Dion Bromfield. And the song is called Mama Said. And I know y'all know this

08:40song. I can't think of the original group. Maybe Birdman, you can help me with the original

08:47group. Mama Said. Mama Said, there'll be days like this. There'll be days like this, Mama Said.

08:54Now, that's Mama telling you that there's going to be days like X, Y, and Z. You will come up

09:00against

09:00X, Y, and Z. This will happen. And then the rhetorical question that I have to ask each and

09:07every one of you is when you were warned, whether it was your mom, whether it was your dad, whether

09:12it

09:12was your grandfather, grandmother, whoever, did you listen to everything that they were saying when

09:17they said there'll be days like this? Because when we're young and we don't know any better,

09:23we tend to think that life is just going to be what it is. And you know the old saying,

09:27when it rains, it pours. And again, if you were anything like me, I don't know who I'm speaking

09:32to. I'm only speaking from real life experiences. I didn't pay attention. I didn't save for a rainy day.

09:39And when it did rain, it most certainly poured. And all of those days that they said it would be

09:44like X, Y, and Z, most of the time I wasn't listening. Now, for all of the parents out there,

09:52I definitely want to tell you, and I've said this before time and time again, that you don't have to

09:58tell your kids how to be anything like you. You don't even have to say anything because subconsciously

10:03they are going to pick up every single habit that you are doing. Now, whether they choose to do it,

10:08whether God plants something in them to break the generational curse, that's neither here nor

10:12there. That's not for me to make that decision. But you don't have to sit down and tell your kids

10:16how to do any type of bad habits that you have going on, any type of disrespectful habits that

10:23you have going on because you raised them. More is caught than more is taught. So they're going to

10:29pick up these habits. In some cases, some of us do certain things, act a certain way,

10:34have certain triggers, anxiety, whatever the case may be, and we don't even know why.

10:41We say certain things and we don't even know why. We do certain things and we don't even know why

10:45because we were brought up in it. And if it's something that you don't like that you're doing

10:51and you realize that it's something that great grandmother did, grandmother did, mother did,

10:56father did, you have an obligation to go ahead and change that. And that's called breaking

11:00generational curses. However, let's get back to the script here. Mama said, X, Y, and Z. Papa said,

11:10X, Y, and Z. Grandmother said, don't touch this. Don't do this. Don't do that. They were warning you.

11:16Now, what about the ones where they didn't warn you? Now, this is where I got a call in my

11:20friend,

11:21Miss Anita Baker. She has a song called Fairy Tales. And you really got to listen to those lyrics.

11:26It's off of her composition album. So if you don't know anything about this, check out the Fairy Tales

11:32album. But this is basically where somebody's feeding you dreams and they're feeding you

11:38wonderful stories and everything's going to be a fairy tale, a dream came true, but they don't tell

11:46you about real life scenarios. So don't be the parent out there that don't tell your children or don't

11:52educate your children of what could potentially happen. And Anita Baker says stuff like this.

11:57She never said that we would curse, cry, scream, and lie. Now, of course, she's speaking about

12:03relationships, but if you don't warn your children or if you don't warn somebody close to you that's

12:09getting ready to get out here in the field about what's going to happen in a workplace, what's going

12:13to happen when you get into this relationship, you might have some sort of resentment on the other end.

12:18And she says she never said we would curse, cry, scream, and lie to each other. She never said that

12:26maybe someday he'd say goodbye. So now you got mama saying every single thing that you shouldn't do.

12:32And then you have on the other aspect of maybe you're not saying enough.

12:38So I want you to chew on that. Song of the day, Mama Said, released in 2009 from Dionne Bromfield

12:46off of her album, Introducing Dionne Bromfield.

12:58And for some reason, I don't know why I can't remember the original group, but I believe it starts

13:06was an S, the original group that sang that song. I had it right before the show. I had it.

13:13But in any

13:14case, all right, so now we are going to reach out to Mr. Birdman, author, poet, Birdman 313.

13:37What's going on? What's going on? How's it going, man?

13:41It's going. I got your back on that song.

13:45Okay. I had to look it up though. I, you know, I had to look it up because it was

13:52really done in

13:5261 by the Shirelles.

13:56Shirelles. Now, I don't know why I was thinking that a man sang it.

14:00He does. His name is Lucas Graham. He sung it later on, but the Shirelles, it was in 61.

14:08I had to even look that one up. I'm like, I know the song, but, you know, but I think

14:14I couldn't put it

14:15together. So I, I think that, but I, I think the dude sings it a little bit better. Yeah. Of

14:23course.

14:24I think so. Of course. I think so. Cause, cause when you hear it, I always think of a man's

14:30voice.

14:30Yes. So he must've done it a little bit better than it.

14:34Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But there's been others who kind of like, kind of

14:43sung it, but they, you know, kind of changed it. So it wouldn't be a light because sometimes,

14:49you know, a lot of them songs, you got to get permission. If you don't get permission,

14:52then you got to change up the words. Oh, yes. Yes. At that point, if I was in the, in

15:00the,

15:00uh, studio and I'd be like, Oh, so you didn't get the permission. So I can't do the song the

15:05way I want to do it. You know what? Forget it. Then we just doing something different.

15:12Hey, but that's what, Hey, a lot of rappers took songs that the old one, you know, the old,

15:19you know, the ones did and they had to get permission and, you know, if you didn't get

15:27permission and you did it, Hey, come on. You got to pay me now. You know, you know, like maybe

15:33who that happened to vanilla ice MC hammer. He didn't get, he didn't get permission to do that song.

15:46Rick James went completely off. MC hammer say, well, it all worked out. He said, I bought him a,

15:53um, I bought him a Rose Royce in a house. Rick was happy. Rick said, they said, you're going to

15:59get

15:59some millions from it. Rick said, okay, I'm cool. It's so mystical that you bringing up Rick James,

16:06because, um, when you said rappers, right. Getting permission. That's the first person that came to

16:11mind because he's no longer with us anymore, but right. He, he had made so much money because he

16:19was the most sampled artists from the hip hop industry that he had made so much money that

16:26he really didn't even need to do anything again. That is crazy. And MC hammer did Prince the same

16:34way, but I don't know. Oh man. I'm going to have to look that up. He did Prince the same

16:43way.

16:43Cause Rick said he might can, he can, he might can jam Prince up, but he ain't jamming me up.

16:49I'm

16:49going to get my money. I'm wondering if it's that song. Uh, that's why we pray. We prayed it. You

16:57got

16:57to pray just to make it today. Cause I think it has a little bit of elements of, um, when

17:02doves cry,

17:03maybe, maybe I could be wrong. I can't remember which song. I just remember that statement that

17:09Rick James made, you know, um, cause you know, matter of fact, I seen him in concert when he made

17:16that statement, he was here in Houston and he said, he said, um, yeah, y'all know that, you know,

17:25he got me, he got, he took one of my song, but if he take anything else, he got to

17:30get permission.

17:31And I, and he said, long, they going to make a million, I give them permission. They can't make

17:36a million for me. They can't have my permission. And I'm like, wow, that's, that's now it's so

17:44interesting too, uh, that you speak about MC hammer. I forgot who it was. One of the rappers said that,

17:51uh, I just came across my feed a couple of days ago. He said that MC hammer was the most,

17:58and make sure I get this right. MC hammer was very feared. And they said, don't let the baggy pants.

18:07And, and they said like his music, his music fool you because it wasn't really like hardcore rap,

18:14but they said that a lot of people, even Mr. Suge Knight himself feared MC hammer. Yes.

18:22MC hammer, MC hammer is from Oakland. I know that's what they said. And they said,

18:27and I think it's his one of his older brothers. They said it was a straight up gangster. And they

18:34said MC hammer was just like that. I heard that. It's funny. Heard. Yeah. I heard that too. I'm like,

18:41wow, man. Cause you would think that he, his persona would have, uh, flowed out in his music

18:48and on a stage and just his swag, but it definitely was completely different. He had a lot of people

18:53fooled though. Right. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Now when you said that, I knew, I knew what you

19:00was

19:00going to say because matter of fact, I just, I've been reading, you know, like I do a lot of

19:05reading

19:06on music and I just ran across that, not, you know, a couple of days ago. I don't know if

19:13it

19:13was the game or somebody said it. Don't be fooled by MC hammer because he was the most feared. Yeah.

19:23Artists in the, in music streets. Like people didn't play with him, including Suge Knight. Now,

19:28you know, a lot of people feared Suge Knight, but, um, interesting. Um, here we are going off of this,

19:36uh, but it's okay though, but it's something else about music that I wanted to bring up and I couldn't.

19:44Wow. Okay. In any case. So how about you go ahead and introduce yourself to everybody? You know,

19:50we got some new people out there. Let them know who you are. Yeah. I'm author, poet, Birdman313.

19:56I'm here in Houston, Texas. Um, I write poetry. I published 15 books of poetry, which you can find

20:08on, um, 11 of them. You can find on Amazon and Goodreads. Um, the other four are no longer in

20:15print.

20:16Those was the, that was, uh, was the beginning of me getting my poetry written, but my, I had been

20:24writing poem poetry for years, but it started off like I was writing music. And I, I can say that

20:34I

20:35had sent over 200 poems trying to get something published. And I guess I was doing it the wrong

20:43way. Cause no one even gave me an opportunity. So I got on this poetry site and one of the

20:51guys on there,

20:52he said, why don't you do a poetry book? And I said, because I don't have that money because

21:01I had tried to do a book back in the eighties from a publishing company out of New York,

21:09they sent me a contract. I had, I have friends that, you know, often to attorneys, you know,

21:16some attorney friends and, um, one, the company I work with, he, you know, he was an attorney.

21:24He looked at the contract and he said, no, no, don't mess with this. Don't mess with this. He said,

21:31they want you to sign. I think it was three to five years and you had to put out 200

21:38poems for a year

21:41for each book. He said that. Oh my goodness. Yeah. He said that that's too stressful. He said,

21:47I'm just going to tell you, yes, you might be able to write, but you got to write something that

21:53they

21:53accept. And it's a lot of times other poems, they're not going to accept it.

21:59That's crazy. Yeah. And so I sent it back. He sent a letter asking for my poems back and they

22:07wouldn't send my poems back. So that was 200 that went out the door, you know? And, you know,

22:17even now when people tell me, they say, you have an agent? I'm like, nope. They said, well,

22:22you can't make no money without agent. Now, you know, some poets have told me that. And it's been

22:29some publishing companies who have told me that. And I'm like, well, you know what? I don't want

22:35an agent because when you sign and that's what, I don't care what it is. If you sign with someone,

22:42whatever in that contract, if you don't do it, hey, you either, you're going to be in some trouble.

22:50Put it like that. Isn't, isn't it such thing in sports that's called a free agent, right?

22:57Yes. Okay. So then how about it be the same thing, a free agent? I'm my own agent.

23:02Well, yeah, that's why I do stuff. That's why I do self-publishing.

23:06Yeah. Because self-publishing, when I do self-publishing,

23:11I don't have to worry about somebody looking at it and say, oh no, this poem don't belong in this

23:16book here. Give me something else. And I've talked to authors who are poets who have done that

23:23where they say, man, I can't even get this poem published in this book. They tell me to do

23:30something else. I don't see nothing wrong with it. And I'm like, you want an agent? They say,

23:35yes, that's the problem. Or even with some publishing companies are like that, where you send your poems

23:43in, they'll look at, oh no, you need to take this one out. You need, or you need to take

23:48these three

23:48or four out and send me something else. And I tell anybody, nope, that ain't me. Because whatever

23:59I write and put in that book, that's coming from my heart. And then that's something I had to learn

24:08along the way. That's like people in the music industry. When they got an album, they do contracts

24:15where they got to put a certain album together and then they take it to the record label. And the

24:19record label is like, no, we don't want this track. We don't want this track. We don't want that track.

24:23Or they accept your album, but then it's shelved and then it never gets released.

24:32Yes.

24:33That's craziness.

24:33Craziness.

24:34And you know what else is, is I've learned this. If a publishing company or even like music company,

24:45if they don't think they can market you enough to bring in a lot of money, you know, yeah, you

24:52could,

24:52you could put a music out. Like you said, you're going to put it on the shelf. You can put

24:56a book out

24:56and they put it on the shelf. If they feel like they can't market and they can't make a lot

25:03of money off

25:04you, then, you know, cause they want to make double at whatever you make. Believe that or not. A lot

25:11of people

25:12don't believe that. And it's a, it's about the marketing. Cause you know, when, when you do

25:17stuff like that, you got to pay for marketing, advertising, um, promotion. It's a lot of things

25:24you have to pay for. A lot of people don't understand that. A lot of people I've heard a lot

25:30of special

25:30musicians. They're like, my music just as good as that. Yes, it is. But do you have the money?

25:37Exactly. And the thing about it is that's like people look at Stephen King, but he gets a check

25:46before his books are even finished. Hmm. Once he finished the book, his, his sales make up for

25:55whatever they done paid him that same way with a musician. They get, they get a, you know, a lot

26:03of them,

26:03they get like, I think a lot of people say it starts from 1200 to 1500 upfront. Well, you got

26:13to

26:13make that back or your, your, um, whatever you put now has to make that back. And if it don't

26:21make it

26:21back, then they consider your flop. Yeah. That's why you have so many people, you know, like I said,

26:29if you go, if you will ever go to Austin, Texas and you'll sit back and you'd be like, wow,

26:34man,

26:34they ain't got, they don't have a label with no, you know, they ain't have a sign with nobody.

26:38It's because a lot of, I already know the music game. Hmm. A lot of, a lot of, um, like

26:47all these

26:48little comedy pop-up comedy stores, you know, they already know the game, you know, it's, it's,

26:56it's a thing where, okay, I'll front you, but you got to make it back up. And if I don't

27:02make

27:02nothing, you ain't going to make, you know, that's how it is. Yeah. You know, prime example,

27:10Maxwell. There was a time when, uh, I can't remember which album it was. It must be the

27:16first one, right? No, it wasn't the first one. It was the, it was the, I think it was the

27:21second

27:21one after that. And, and, and, and the guy, he said, you know, the salesperson, he said,

27:27man, he said, Maxwell ran out of money. And I'm like, how you run out of money? They said,

27:34well, they fronted him the money. And that's when I learned about it. They say, front of him,

27:39the money, instead of him taking the money, going to the studio, doing what he do, he did something

27:45else with it. He stayed a while for a minute. That could be the reason why. Yeah. He, that's,

27:53that's how he do. That's because record companies are scared to deal with him, even though he's

28:00talented. They scared to deal with him because when they give him a lump sum,

28:07Maxwell, he'll burn out and do what he want to do instead of taking care of business.

28:13And, you know, putting that out there. I saw him, um, on tour with Mary J. Blige in Philly.

28:21And I have to tell you that he definitely puts on a good show. Live performance. Wow.

28:27Yes. Yes. I seen, I seen him at the smart financial here and I was, I was really blown away.

28:34Uh-huh.

28:35Like, wow, man, I ain't know this, you know, and then that's when I started reading up on him

28:42and he played music. And what he does, he play in these little venues now because,

28:49because the fact is, is how he does when he's supposed to be going in the studio instead

28:57of him going in the studio, taking care of business, he's doing something else.

29:02Hmm.

29:04But he's not the only one. He's not the only one. It's a whole lot of them. It's a lot.

29:08Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, uh, nobody told him that there'll be days like this, huh?

29:18Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we, we talking about, um, you know, adulthood growing up,

29:26um, what are some things, if you could think maybe one or two things that, um, they said,

29:35you know, be careful cause that'll happen. And then it happened.

29:37Hmm. First of all, you gotta be responsible in, in anything you do, you have to be responsible.

29:47And a lot of, a lot of us, I'm including myself coming up. I wasn't responsible.

29:56You know, I didn't take, I didn't take it seriously. Okay. You know, now I'm sitting back and I'm like,

30:04wow, man, why didn't I take that opportunity that was there more serious? And it's something else.

30:12What really, what really made me change was after I written my fourth poetry book and I started

30:21working on my fifth poetry book, I had somebody come up to me and say, Hey man, I could tell

30:28that

30:28you've had, your life has been, you know, up and down, you know, he said, um, you need to quit

30:36writing

30:36like that. And I looked at him and I went, what do you mean? And he said, write, start writing

30:44pleasant.

30:47And that's what made me, what made me, I said, okay. In other words, he was telling me stop trying

30:54to please other people and just please myself. Hmm. You, you just, you just hit a, uh, you just opened

31:04up a box here, Pandora box, shout out to Pandora since we're on Pandora now. Um, when you were writing

31:12stuff, were you writing like bad stuff? Were you writing like, you know, rough stuff? Because

31:19the reason why I'm asking is because when you write stuff, you are pretty much writing your

31:30life story and maybe you don't even know it. Half and half. I've written some, I just, I've written

31:37some things and I look at that poem and I'm like, wow, did I write that? I wouldn't read

31:42it now.

31:44Oh, okay.

31:46Okay.

31:47I wouldn't read it because that's not me now.

31:50Exactly.

31:51You know, and I tell people like a friend of mine in Austin, he called me the nature poem,

31:58poet. He said, because he said, you write some lovely nature poetry. He said, people need

32:05to listen to you at what you saying. And yes, it may talk about some of the things that has

32:14been hurtful, but it's in a more pleasant way now. And I mean, he has, he has talked to

32:21a lot of young poets or new poets coming in and he'll tell them, Hey, you need to tone it

32:28down. I think that's why him and I are so good friends and I can go to his house when

32:34I'm up

32:34there. I can go to the house. His wife will fix foods for us. And there's three of us

32:39that hang out. And, you know, we just go from event to event to event. And whenever, like

32:47if it's a festival and they need features, he always, always he'll contact me and say,

32:54I need a feature or I need you to be there. Cause you feature your feature.

32:58Mm-hmm. I think that's very powerful that he reached out and said, Hey, you know, maybe

33:04you should tone this down because like I was speaking on the last podcast, I had a mentor

33:11tell me, Lam, we write our own stories. Um, she coached me up from speaking negative. Um,

33:20and now I can pick it up very quickly when somebody saying stuff, uh, you have to be very careful

33:27what follows behind. I am because what follows behind I am is pretty much sealed and dealed

33:35and it's done. So be very careful about what you say after I am, but I am close to people

33:43who say some terrible things about themselves. And, and, you know, you can't tell people how

33:48how to maneuver and how to act. So when they say things after I am that don't align, I'm

33:53like, Oh boy, you done done it now. But when you're writing stuff, that's why they say journaling

33:59is very powerful because your subconscious mind picks it up. So if you're listening to

34:04music, that's hardcore, you know, shoot, shoot them up, all that type of stuff. There's a correlation

34:12that you could be going down that path. So if you're writing poetry, if you're doing anything

34:18that's not aligned with, you know, who your true self is, you could set yourself off on

34:23the wrong path. So that's why I was asking about, you know, you know, the type of stuff

34:28you're writing.

34:29Yeah. Cause I mean, it's like I said, there's, there's some old poems, man. I, you know, I

34:33toss them aside. I'm like, Ooh, I don't even want, I don't even look at them no more. When

34:38I see the title, I like, okay, now, now, now, now I'm kind of curious.

34:48I won't read it because I promised myself once I did this, I said, no. Okay. They pushed

34:57aside. Um, you know, I've been, it's just, I'm just amazed because like I said, most of

35:07my poems, I was trying to prove, I'm gonna be honest. It was proved to my hometown, proved

35:13to my family that I could actually do something positive because my hometown people in there

35:22always put me down. That's why I won't go back there. You know, um, you know, I've told

35:32my adopted and my adopted family treated me like, you know, they, they, you know, they,

35:39they, they would, they would treat a bum better than they treated me. Hmm. And that's a lot

35:44of stuff I was writing and wait, you're, you're, I've, I've gotten away from that. You said your

35:53adoptive family or the family that you know, my, I meant not my, right. I know what you mean.

35:59Yeah. My biological family. Yeah. Yes. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My biological

36:06family is the ones that treated me really, really bad. And so I was trying to just prove

36:14to everybody cause you know, he's all, you can't play no basketball. But then when I went

36:19out in LA, they were still saying that, oh, he can't play no basketball. I don't know why

36:24he going out there. And I'm like, I will sit back and what can I do to make these people

36:29see that I am somebody. Hmm. And even now with my poetry, I'm not, you know, nobody want

36:37to hear it from my hometown hardly. It's, it's a few, don't get me wrong. It's a few that likes

36:42it, but Hey man, they, they, you know, drag my name in the mud then. So I learned to write

36:51for myself. Absolutely. Long, it pleases me happy. I don't care if don't nobody like

36:59it. Yeah. Once you get past the point where you stop worrying about what other people think,

37:06then you are ready to soar. But there is something that happens in the beginning where you're

37:10constantly looking around, making sure that you're on the right track. I think about what,

37:16even the podcast here. When I first started, I was terrified the first couple of years

37:24actually, and constantly looking to see how many, you know, followers, what's this, what's

37:29that. And then now it's like, whatever. If you, if you, I start talking about money now

37:35and people left and certain people, I gained more people after the people left. So it's like,

37:40whatever. I could care less. So yeah, I got you. Hey, I understand because I got tell people,

37:46if you had to ask me and I always say this, ask me 20 years ago, would you be a

37:53published?

37:53Would you be published? I was no man, no way. Would you be doing a podcast weekly? Yeah. You

38:09learn on my own. I tell people, people ask me, what school you, I ain't going to no school. I

38:14said,

38:14man, I just sit down and I just kept doing it, kept doing it till I got it the way

38:24I like it.

38:25And if you like it, that's cool. If you don't, it's all right. I mean, I still, I've had,

38:30I had one guy tell me the video program I was using was trash, but yet still he went, he

38:36could,

38:36he said, well, I got this program here, but he never put a video up. It's always the ones that

38:44criticize you. They'd be the ones who secretly be trying to figure out what you're doing. And

38:50it's, it's funny. It's funny how that works. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So, you know, I mean, I write,

38:57I, you know, I write for the joy of it, you know, like I write something like today I've been,

39:01I've been working on two different poems a day, you know, played on my bass guitar. So,

39:08and I mix, I mix, I mix my music or any music with my poetry. You know, there's times when

39:17I'll listen to a song and I'll take the title and I'll write a poem about it.

39:25Okay. Okay. You know, I have done that, you know, and, and, and when I tell people that they,

39:31they look, I had, um, I don't know if you ever seen that poem called footprints.

39:37Oh yeah. Well, no. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. I never forget when I did a poem called footprints,

39:43this lady said, you don't get sued. You can't use that title. I said, I'm not using the same words.

39:52I said, you, I said, the title, I said, plus my title is not just called footprints. It's,

39:58you know, like I have made footprints on the beach, footprints in the sand. I said,

40:02nothing wrong with that. I said, but nothing in there is word for word. I don't even use that.

40:08Really. That's what got me to want to write poetry. Was that poem? Because of that. Yeah.

40:14Yeah. I had a, I had a poster when I, I remember I bought a poster, you know, put it

40:20on the wall in

40:21my bedroom and I used to sit there and look at that every day. And then I said, I want

40:28to write

40:28a powerful poem like that. That's funny that you say that. I had, um, a family member when I first

40:39started the podcast and it started to get some popularity. When I first started it, I was like,

40:45Ooh, six months into it. People were like, Oh, I heard you got a podcast. Like people from around

40:49the way. And I was like, all right. So then a family member came up to me and says, are

40:55you sure

40:56that Mary J Blige is going to be okay? Because you called it the four on one podcast.

41:02Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said, I said, yes, it's called the four on one podcast. What you

41:09know, four on one used to dial four on one on the freaking phone. Yeah. I don't have to

41:14ask Mary for, uh, her album was called. What's the four on one. This is the four on podcast.

41:21So fast forward today. I'm looking up podcasts to check the ranking and stuff.

41:30Somebody named there's the four on one podcast with, and they put their name and then they

41:38put Jay Blige. Yeah. I ain't got to worry about nothing. Cause I didn't, I didn't go to those

41:45lengths. This person put their pop four on one podcast with their first name and then Jay

41:51Blige. But yeah, but see, they might have a copy written like that too.

41:59It looked kind of interesting to me. Yeah. You know, that's, that's the thing you run across

42:06in life. And I always tell people, you know, I say, Hey man, I said, and another thing that

42:12kind of got me on a, on a, on a right track was look in the mirror every day and

42:18say, Hey,

42:20I'm beautiful. Absolutely. Those wonderful affirmations. Um, I'm talented.

42:27Yeah. Well, I'm wealthy. I'm successful. I'm healthy. I'm phenomenal. I'm amazing. All of

42:36those things. And, um, it's easy to, to get out of sync with that and being around the

42:44wrong people, um, will get you out of sync. And it's so important to get yourself back

42:51and saying, getting into nature, um, grounding, walking around barefoot with, with your, uh,

42:58your, um, socks off barefoot, right on the ground, on some grass or on some sand to ground

43:06yourself because we get wrapped up and trapped up with these people. And we forget, we forget

43:11who we are. And, you know, even every day when I, when I, I'll look in the mirror, even right

43:18now, every, every day I look in there and I always thank God, you know, bringing me this

43:23far, giving me the right words, being in a situation I'm in, you know, cause I could

43:30have easily, easily been in a different situation. And cause when, every time when I, when I ride

43:38by and see a homeless person, you know, I look over and I said, boy, I remember I used to

43:44say I'm one paycheck away from being just like that. You know? And I used to say that

43:50a lot, man. I say that a lot, man. And you know, um, I just, you know, I'm like, wow,

43:59man,

43:59it's a lot of things that I have gotten better with. I'm a better person. I'm not as I don't

44:06go off. Like I used to, man. It used to be, I will fly off the, you know, off the

44:11hammer.

44:12Ever since I've been, ever since I've been writing poetry, the way I've been writing it

44:18and has, that has cooled down. I mean, I know how to, I know how, I guess you could say

44:23this.

44:24I learned how to talk to people.

44:27That, you know, it's my baby off. And if they've made me mad, I've learned how to talk to them.

44:33You know, I, and then I thought about, you know, some of the things I was taught. If you

44:38only got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all. My mom taught me that. And I turn and

44:44if I just walk away, I'm like, I ain't got time for this.

44:48That's powerful when you can just turn around and walk away. Um, because it's not what people

44:53say to you, but what is most important is how you react to what they say to you.

44:58Exactly.

44:59That's, that's the most important part. Now that's one thing that, you know, nobody told me this when

45:05it came to adulthood that, you know what, Laren, you just can't talk to people crazy. You can't be

45:10going upside people head. You can, you're going to end up, you know, in a place where you don't want

45:15to be. And I'm thankful that I never, never ended up there. I did it at my parents' house.

45:22My dad walked in the kitchen. He said, hang up the phone, but he didn't say it like that. You

45:27know, he used a few words. He said, don't you ever get on my phone that I'm paying the bill

45:35for

45:35and talk like that to anybody. I don't care what they did to you. And I'm like, but he said,

45:41I don't want to hear it. And my mom, she just sit there and she said, try to tell him.

45:47It's just like that. At that point, I kind of got it. And you know, they both pulled me to

45:53side. They said, look, people going to piss you off all your life. And you, you can't scream and

46:00holler at them and call them names because you know what? They just going to keep doing it. Cause

46:05they, they know that's what ticks you. Exactly. And you will not be able to get anything accomplished.

46:12And so like, I'm like, Oh, okay. So I mean, I'm like, you know, like I said, over the years

46:16I've learned and it's, you know, what the sad part about it is I've learned a lot more since

46:22they passed away. Think about what they was telling me then. And I'm like, wow, man, I didn't listen to

46:32them when I was young. Now I'm old and okay. I know what they meant now. When they were telling

46:40you

46:41things, um, your, your brain records it. So your brain is a massive computer system and it records

46:49everything, but you probably weren't listening fully at the time. And then when you came across

46:56the scenario, you're like, Oh, I remember they told me about this. Yes. Oh, I get it now. I get

47:01it.

47:01Yes. Yes. So burning questions real quick, uh, before we get out of here, cause we are up against

47:07the clock. Yes. What, what is one lesson about adulthood and money or responsibility that you wish

47:15someone had, uh, taught you sooner about how to spend money, how to save and how to spend money.

47:24That's a good one. You know, be, like I said earlier, be responsible. Cause there was a time

47:30man, I wasn't responsible. I mean, I wasn't responsible even in my writing at first, I wasn't

47:36responsible. Now I'm responsible. I get a rejection from one of my poems. I just chalk it up as okay.

47:43You know, that means I just got to keep working and do better. So, you know,

47:50I'm with you on that money aspect. Uh, the things that I wish I'd known back in a day, um,

47:57would have helped me along the way. So I'm, I'm, I'm with you on a money thing. Um,

48:04one thing that I wish I had listened to, I'm sure maybe somebody taught me, but maybe I wasn't

48:09listening is be careful in the workplace. Yes. That's one thing. Be careful in a workplace

48:16because the people who you think are your friends, they are not your friends. And sometimes it's very

48:24detrimental when you thought that it was your boss. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. I agree with that.

48:31You know, um, it wasn't a workplace, but it was a situation where there's one time I had an internet

48:39station, you know, called poetry and music. And you know what? It didn't last long because the guy who

48:50was actually running it and I don't know why I didn't see it. I couldn't see it at the time,

48:56but someone spoke to me about something that he did. And when I stepped back, I mean, I, yeah,

49:04I stepped back and I looked and I'm like, you know what? I don't need this. I let it go.

49:10And then he

49:10told me, you can't, you can't let it go. I'm like, what you mean? I can't, I ain't signed no

49:16papers.

49:20You know, and I, and I just, I just stopped doing, he's what I'm a run it. Say, Hey man.

49:26I said,

49:26go here. You do what you want. But everybody know poetry and music. That's what it means. It's poetry

49:32and it's music. But I would play some music and I would read some poetry. And I said, if you

49:36don't do

49:37that, watch and see, he was jealous because people was asking, man, where is this poet from? Where is

49:44he? Who is he? You know, and blah, you know, and this one guy, he said, I would like to

49:49sponsor him

49:50like I sponsor you. And he didn't like it. He did not like it. And he actually went to a

49:58friend and said,

50:00when he's doing his, um, when he's doing his internet thing, what is he doing before? And she was

50:07like, what you mean? Says he's smoking weed. And she said, and then she said, I don't know what

50:13he's doing. I'm not there. I don't live nowhere in Texas. I live in Michigan. And then I'm like,

50:20he don't, he shouldn't have work. He call herself. I shouldn't say it. I shouldn't say it. I went to

50:28his house. I went to his house, man. He had weed plants growing in his bedroom. He would,

50:36man, he would sit up and smoke. He's a minister. Listen, listen, listen, I don't have nothing to

50:43say about it because listen, it helps some musicians and whatever. I heard that if it's

50:51used the right way. Yeah. He was, he called himself a minister and he was messing over everybody. You

50:59know, I introduced him to a couple of people. We were doing poetry together and we had a spot.

51:05He went in there and tuck it over and said, whenever they want to do an open mic, you have

51:12to come

51:12through me and we'll talk about it. And he was telling us how to dress. I'm like, dude.

51:17Oh yeah. Yeah. I said, Hey dude, look here, man. Nobody tell me how to dress. I said,

51:24my parents don't even, didn't even, they stopped telling me how to dress once I moved out. And I

51:30said, I'm not going to let no man tell me how to dress. That was it, man. But yeah, man.

51:39And you know

51:40what bad thing from my hometown, he's married to my cousin. Oh wow. And that's when I said,

51:49you know what? Parents told me, don't trust nobody. I don't care if they family. Do not trust them.

51:56And I don't. Yeah. I feel you. Well, this was a great conversation. Yes. Thank you again for

52:08coming on. People get to see what you look like behind the mic and all of that stuff. This is

52:13always great. Yeah. I didn't get to read a poem, but that's fine. Cause yeah. Once I get to talk

52:19about poetry and what I'm doing, man, I just kind of like flow along, you know? Yeah. It was good

52:24conversation. Yeah. So go ahead and let people know where they can follow you again, get your books,

52:29anything you have new coming up this week. Okay. Um, tomorrow night. Um, it is funny. It's just,

52:36uh, and she asked me, could she use this called poetry and music? And I'm gonna be reading some

52:42poems on there, but the rest of the week I'm gonna be, be, uh, working on my music and I'm

52:48gonna be

52:48working on some new poems. You can go to, um, amazon.com slash author slash Birdman 313,

52:57goodweeds.com slash Birdman 313. Uh, you can go check out my, um, YouTube channel,

53:05youtube.com slash author poet Birdman 31355. You can find me on Instagram. I'm posting pictures. I'm

53:12posting poem. I'll be posting some videos, Instagram, Birdman 31355. Um, I'm on Spotify

53:21and that's under the coffee, wine and words is videos. So I hope I got everything.

53:28Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Yes. Yes. Well, thank you,

53:34sir. Appreciate you for joining. I great conversation. Uh, yes. Love chopping it up with you. Love

53:40speaking about music and all the things that we do here on the floor. I'm sorry. I said my adopted

53:47family. That's not what I meant, man. They were, they, that, they, that was a blessing. And I thank

53:53God every day that they adopted me and I, I didn't grow up with my biological family. Yeah. Yeah. I

54:02got

54:02you. I got you with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And people be like, really? I'm like, yeah.

54:06Wow. Yeah. So I'm glad you caught that, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, wait a minute. Wait a

54:11minute. Let me get, I got you though. I got you. Yeah. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you.

54:17I got your back earlier. You got my eyes later. Right, right, right. All right. We'll take care.

54:23I'll talk to you soon. All right, man. Take care. Yeah. All right, ladies and gentlemen,

54:29there you have it. That was author, poet, Birdman, 313. Great conversation. Great conversation.

54:43We always just go in and it seemed like time just fly and we're here. So we got a couple

54:51more episodes. We have Miss Shawnee Refuge coming in. A couple more surprises. I'm not going to

54:57say any names because I don't want to butcher people's names and stuff, but thank you all so

55:04much for hanging out with me this week. Same place, same time. I'll see you tomorrow. And on

55:10that note, ladies and gentlemen, I will see you when I see you. Take care. And I love when I

55:17say

55:18this. Sometimes it's during the daytime. Sometimes it's early in the morning. I know it's morning time

55:23for y'all when y'all listening to this, but I've just been so used to saying this since day

55:27one.

55:27Good night.

55:54Good night.

55:55Good night.

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