00:00John, we focused a lot on the Lions' defense, and well, for good reason.
00:04It's a major concern, but the Lions also have a new offensive coordinator,
00:08and you have some great numbers on Petsing.
00:10I want to offer up a chance for people to give us their first and second impressions
00:16of the Lions' new offensive coordinator.
00:18Wrap up some feedback on Dern and Larkin.
00:21Okay.
00:21Players like Dern are a dime a dozen.
00:24Ship them out of town.
00:26Get them out of here.
00:28Called them a crybaby.
00:29Says, makes sense that Dern would want to be in Sacramento.
00:31He will do anything to avoid playing in the playoffs ever again.
00:34That's Nate in Lapeer.
00:36Well done, Nate.
00:37The question is just going to bring the trolls out or the people who don't watch hockey.
00:41Anybody who says keep Dern over Larkin in a hypothetical just doesn't understand
00:45or cares way too much about the Pistons.
00:48Yeah.
00:49It should be an easy call.
00:50If you're living in a world where you could welcome one back, it would be Larkin.
00:55Yeah.
00:55I'm more concerned about how this affects Cade.
00:58John, what do you make of this question?
00:59He says, we're on the clock with Cade.
01:00We don't want to waste time.
01:01Big stars could leave small markets.
01:04Well, I guess going to things that, again, we've heard is that Jalen Duren didn't show
01:11up to a gathering put together by Tom Gores.
01:16He also didn't show up to a gathering put together by Cade.
01:20And so if you're not going to show up to your buddy's barbecue or whatever the event was,
01:27I'm not sure that Cade's voice in this is going to make a difference.
01:33And I don't know that what Duren is either perceived or real disrespect.
01:42I don't think it will have an effect on Cade.
01:45Yeah.
01:45I think Cade's a pretty level-headed, smart young man.
01:49You go to him and you say, look, we offered Duren more money than he can make on the open
01:55market.
01:55Maybe he doesn't want to play here with you.
01:57Yeah.
01:58And by the way, I think it would be in our best interest to try to keep costs down to
02:02build the best team around you.
02:03And if we have to move on from Jalen Duren, I know you like the guy, you may be friendly
02:07with the guy.
02:08I don't want to sacrifice your prime by paying a big who can't dribble, can't shoot, and can't
02:14create $40 million.
02:16So we're actually doing what's right by you if we move on from Duren.
02:19Yeah.
02:20And I think Cade is mature enough to look at that and say, are they going to put a team
02:25around me that is going to be good enough to win a championship?
02:29And can they do that in a better, more productive way without Jalen Duren?
02:34Like, think about it.
02:34Friendship aside.
02:36Cade's floor spacing when you commit $70 million to Asar and Duren.
02:41Right.
02:42That could drive a player away more than losing Duren.
02:46And they can still be friends.
02:48Yeah.
02:49You know, from another team.
02:50Yeah.
02:51Well, didn't LeBron and Wade and Carmelo do the banana boat in the offseason?
02:54You can banana boat your way, whatever you want to do.
02:58I didn't see that, but sure.
03:00Let's go to the phones.
03:01Keith in Detroit.
03:02Keith, good morning.
03:03What's going on, fellas?
03:05How you guys doing?
03:05Good.
03:07You know what day I'm a Duren?
03:08I was done with him the day after the playoffs.
03:11I looked at the contracts.
03:13I would have kept B's too.
03:15And look, you can't create your own shot.
03:19If 10 mil of the 15 had been highest, I would have went.
03:23That was good.
03:24But what I understand about Red Wing fans is like, you guys wanted Eisenman out of here.
03:30This man helped that happen.
03:32Why the long faces?
03:34Why are you coming down on the kids for doing what you guys wanted to be done?
03:40Why is there any boos?
03:42Well, so I'm not going to, I'm not one of those people, but I think in talking and arguing
03:47with them, their point would be Larkin was part of the problem.
03:51There's more than enough blame to go around.
03:53He was the leader during the collapses.
03:55He doesn't appear to have that competitive spine.
03:58And when you saw him at the podium last week, he looked like more of a sad puppy than this
04:02defiant mastermind that wanted his way out.
04:05He seemed like, like he was, he had a chance to grab some power and he didn't, so it made
04:11him look weak.
04:12And I think that's the point from people is those who are anti Larkin feel like, oh, you
04:18could be both anti Eisenman and anti Larkin.
04:21Sure.
04:22And there's plenty of them.
04:23Yeah.
04:23Now the players have at least publicly said they're better with him, which I think is common
04:28sense.
04:29They will be more competitive if they have a quality center.
04:31Otherwise, Andrew Kopp is on your top line, which is not a path to making the playoffs
04:37or competing this season.
04:39Okay, John, you have some Drew Petsing numbers.
04:42Yeah.
04:42These are offensive numbers for where the Lions stack up after two games.
04:47Total yards per game, 362 ranks 10th in the NFL.
04:52493 passing yards total is seventh in the NFL.
04:56230 rushing yards.
04:57That's 11th in the NFL.
04:59Only one turnover.
05:00The one that matters the most is where do they rank in points per game?
05:04That's 31 points per game, which ranks you fifth in the NFL.
05:08And we, we tout the fact that they've always been a top five scoring offense at times top,
05:13you know, two or three in the last couple of years.
05:17Um, I think he's doing a good job.
05:21I think he's, he has been creative.
05:23He has covered up some deficiencies.
05:26Now you can't necessarily cover up your starting right tackle being a bomb.
05:31Larry Borum.
05:31Yeah.
05:32And so could he have always lined to tie it up in there?
05:36Uh, could he have always put a running back in that position?
05:39Yeah, you, you can, but then you limit what you can really do as an offense.
05:44Um, so I like what I'm seeing so far and you know, we haven't seen the hook and ladder and
05:49we haven't seen, you know, position players throwing the football.
05:53I think in time that will come, he's still learning about this team and this team is
05:57honestly still learning about them.
05:59So through two games, I think I, I like these numbers and I like where the offense is heading.
06:04They would be even better if I'm not expecting everyone to be perfect, but if J Mo catches
06:09half the balls that he dropped in that first game, these numbers look even better.
06:14They'd certainly have more explosives on the, on the, on the, on the, on the stat sheet.
06:19I like what I've seen from drew Petsing.
06:21They are effective in the red zone, sixth rushing 11th.
06:27And as you said, they're scoring points.
06:29I'd like them to be better on third down and, and avoid those three and outs, but really
06:34that's on drops and offensive line penalties, which have nothing to do with play calling.
06:39Right.
06:39If J Mo catches a couple passes, maybe that game doesn't go to overtime against the saints.
06:43If they're able to run in a touchdown first and goal at the one and avoid
06:47a stupid Ben Barch penalty, that's another touchdown in week one.
06:51And how about against the bills?
06:53If, if they can line up properly, not have so much procedural pre-snap garbage.
06:58I mean, if, if offensive linemen can hold their water, are they, are they not dealing
07:02with three and outs to start that game?
07:05You know, I, I think there's more meat on the bone and I think drew Petsing so far has
07:10done the job.
07:10How about this?
07:11The job of a play caller is to get your best players, the football, right?
07:14I'm on Ross St. Brown is number one in targets in all of football.
07:18Jameer Gibbs is number one in touches in all of football.
07:22Sam Laporta's fifth in tight end targets.
07:25He's getting his best players, the football.
07:27That is the literal definition of offensive coordinator.
07:29You have the playmakers put the ball in their hands.
07:32And it didn't, we hear from receivers coach the other day when he said, yeah, don't expect
07:38to get a lot of more touches for, I think you sent me that I sent it to you and
07:43Tom,
07:43right?
07:44And for Isaac to slot, because our number one target is Mon Ross St.
07:49Brown.
07:50Number two, as a receiver is going to be Jamo.
07:54I think if you go three, it's probably Sam Laporta for it's either handing the ball or
07:59in terms of the past game, it's going to be getting the ball to Jameer Gibbs.
08:03James, you're talking about getting down to the fifth option for Isaac Tesla.
08:08Yeah, I sent it because I was wondering if you guys would give me a snarky response.
08:11It was Scotty Montgomery who said Isaac Tesla's opportunities, quote, are going to be limited.
08:16He said the Lions first and second progressions have been open.
08:19So Tesla's main opportunities will be in, quote, pressure situations, fourth down, red
08:23zone, et cetera.
08:25The reason I didn't respond is because I don't think he's a very good player.
08:28I mean, I thought we were going to get the, why did we trade up all the picks to get
08:31this guy?
08:31Of course, I mean, you would think you'd be getting production or he'd become a more
08:35important target if you were giving up the capital to move up to get him.
08:39I mean, this goes back to one person, doesn't it?
08:48Yeah, it always goes back to one person.
08:51Okay, it assembles the roster ultimately.
08:53Yeah, who put the talent on the field?
08:54He got multiple executive of the year awards.
08:56You know, you get the credit when things go well and when you don't uphold that standard
09:00and the roster's got some issues.
09:02It's on you.
09:04Ultimately.
09:05Yeah.
09:05Let's get to Bill in Minnesota.
09:06Bill, good morning.
09:08Morning, gentlemen.
09:09My wife and I are actually back in Michigan right now.
09:12We're heading back to catch the game on Saturday.
09:15We got our tickets.
09:17I'm crossing off a bucket list thing to be able to see a Hall of Famer end his career in
09:21front
09:21of this crowd like Rivera and Jeter did.
09:24My wife is the Verlander and Detroit Tiger fan.
09:28I just want to see him go out, be the old JV, get out of the innings.
09:33I'm even thinking of putting 10 bucks on one of those sites to see if he pitches as a no
09:36-hitter.
09:37That would be the ultimate.
09:39That would be the ultimate.
09:41And I think it's awesome that you are making that trip.
09:45You're not a Tigers fan.
09:47And where in Minnesota are you coming from?
09:50Right outside of Minneapolis.
09:51Maple Grove.
09:52It's like 20 minutes from Target Field.
09:54We actually saw the Tigers play this year at Target Field.
09:57And I recommend if you ever get a chance to get to Target Field, it's incredible.
10:01Oh, I bet.
10:01It's nice.
10:02It's a good setup.
10:03Oh, it's very nice.
10:05I have a friend who works for the Twins who looks this up.
10:07But the wife is the Detroit fan.
10:09I'm a baseball fan.
10:10And this is something that if you're a baseball fan, you can't miss.
10:14I got lucky enough.
10:16I got tickets for the Jack Morris jersey retirement at Comerica.
10:21Or 5th 3rd is it so called.
10:25What are some of the other than coming to Detroit for some of those moments?
10:29Have you been able to make trips to other landmark moments for baseball teams or players?
10:36No, I'm from Philadelphia.
10:37I'm a stone.
10:38Stoney and I are buds from Philly.
10:41And I've never been able to do anything.
10:42So all my big moments have, believe it or not, been with the Tigers.
10:48Okay.
10:49Did I hear a woo-hoo from your wife?
10:52Yeah.
10:52We're actually in it.
10:53We just crossed over into Michigan.
10:55We've been driving all night since 10 o'clock last night.
10:57Oh, wow.
10:58So we can make it in to relax, get down to the game.
11:02We actually got decent seats, 22 rows behind home plate for under $300 apiece.
11:07Good for you.
11:08Yeah.
11:08Nice job.
11:09Well, that's great.
11:12So, yeah, the one thing I remember is I remember when Mariano Rivera got taken out of the game
11:18and seeing Jeter and Pettico out take him out with two outs in the inning and the ovation
11:24and the emotion.
11:25That's what I want to see.
11:26I have never been in a stadium where it's been sold out going bonkers, and this is going
11:32to be the moment to remember a lifetime.
11:34Yeah, and I'm glad it's sold out.
11:36I mean, I didn't really have doubts because I know what JV means to the city.
11:40I just know when you're going toe-to-toe with football weekends, Michigan, Michigan State
11:43are playing games both at home, but they're later.
11:46Later in the day.
11:47Yeah, Michigan's at 3.30, and Michigan State doesn't play until 5.
11:52It's a weird time.
11:53Yeah, it's an interesting kick time.
11:54But yeah, JV on the mound at 1.
11:561.10, that play's going to get packed, give him his proper send-off.
12:00And I hope he is for the love of the game, and the guy throws until his arm falls off.
12:05It'd be great.
12:07Coming up next, we'll take more phone calls.
12:08We're talking Lions.
12:09Jared Goff with some comments about the vultures that are circling.
12:14It's 97-1.
