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What’s Next for Jerry Jeudy? Browns WR’s Body Language Raises Questions About His Future in Cleveland
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00:00Jerry Judy, though, looking and sounding like he didn't really want to be there.
00:03That's a different story, man.
00:05That's a different story.
00:06All right, so.
00:07I'm getting a little bit agitated over here.
00:09I didn't like it either.
00:10Getting a little tight.
00:10I didn't like it either, and now there's a bunch of screenshots of him.
00:14Tell me what's going on here.
00:15On the sideline.
00:16Show me.
00:16Of him not celebrating the touchdown.
00:18I saw that one.
00:20I guess what I would wonder is, you know, when they do lie detector tests,
00:26they also do a baseline.
00:28You've seen enough of these.
00:29I've never been in a lie detector test, so I've never seen a lie detector.
00:32Have you actually taken a polygraph?
00:34I thought there was a certain lawyer for a certain superstar who I just mentioned minutes ago
00:39who might have wanted to hook me up to one after I got a cease and desist once.
00:42So they do the baseline.
00:43They have to ask you questions to determine, hey, is he being authentic on when he's asked about his address?
00:50And they see what the lines do.
00:51And they ask, you know, do you have family?
00:54And what are their names?
00:55And then they hit you with, did you kill that lady?
00:58You know, and see what the numbers do.
01:01So with Jerry Judy, I guess I'd have to go back.
01:05I feel like this has been his body language the entirety of his Browns career,
01:09except for that one magical night game where he almost set like an NFL record
01:14against the Denver Broncos, his former team.
01:16I think his body language has kind of been this throughout.
01:20And I've been no big Jerry Judy fan.
01:22Give me the stats on Jerry Judy's contract.
01:25Because when Malik neighbors went down yesterday, I got to admit, I went, oh, Jerry Judy.
01:29Give us a call.
01:30Make an offer.
01:31And we're not getting a second round pick.
01:33Keith, we're not getting a second round pick.
01:37Goof.
01:39But, excuse me, but you want to make an offer for Jerry Judy?
01:43I'm all ears.
01:44I'm all gut and I'm all ears.
01:47What do you think we can get for Jerry?
01:48Do you want to make a move for Jerry?
01:50Excuse me.
01:51Do you want to make a move off of Jerry?
01:53I've been no fan of the Jerry Judy experience.
01:56I thought it was an ill-advised trade.
01:59I didn't like him coming in.
02:00I was more on the Mark Schlereth side of things.
02:02Even though we know Mark's not really being fair when it comes to his Judy criticism.
02:06But he's been right, right?
02:08Everything, a lot of things Mark had said about him that we played, it angered Browns fans in the interim.
02:13Because you don't want to have a new player come in and somebody is dragging them through the mud.
02:18But it just hasn't been good.
02:20And obviously, their head coach, who's very good, didn't want to be in the Jerry Judy business.
02:27I've got to put the brakes on this one.
02:29All right, tell me why.
02:32Because he's already been relegated down.
02:34Like, clearly, Todd Munkin is a believer in Denzel Boston.
02:40And KC, they want to get involved.
02:42And Fannin, they want to get involved.
02:44And even as a safety valve out of the backfield, they want to try to get Judkins involved.
02:50But, you know, look how quickly guys are going down with injuries.
02:54Just ask the Colts.
02:55Just ask, again, the Giants.
02:57You know, with the neighbor's injury.
03:00Like, guys are dropping like flies.
03:01And I don't want to sit there and go, get rid of Jerry Judy.
03:05And then all of a sudden, one of our, you know, young, potentially talented guys go down with an injury.
03:11Sorry, I didn't make that face.
03:12I didn't realize he was only targeted once on Sunday.
03:14Yeah, he's not part of the game plan right now.
03:16But it's a long season.
03:18So many, look at the 49ers and their receiver situation.
03:22Week to week, they've got to bring guys off the practice squad.
03:24Okay, yeah.
03:25Now, it's just way too early to worry about that.
03:28Yeah, 216-474-0092.
03:30Let me give you the counterpoint to that.
03:32Well, what's the deal?
03:34What's his contract, Owen?
03:36I'm trying to work on two things at once.
03:38I'm trying to do the show on the TV.
03:39Just cut off for whatever reason.
03:40I'm on Spotrack right now.
03:41Ooh.
03:42I thought it was Spotrack.
03:44It can be whatever you need it to be.
03:47This year, cap hit is $10 million.
03:51Dead cap is $35.8 million this season.
03:55All right.
03:55Says he has a potential out in 2027.
03:57I don't really know what that is right now.
03:59But 2027, we've got a base salary of $1.5 million.
04:04He's got some incentives.
04:07Cap hit would be $13.4 million.
04:09And the dead cap is $25.4 million.
04:11So what if we trade him now?
04:13What if we trade him now?
04:15What's our hit?
04:16Do we carry a penalty in the next year?
04:18Let me do the thing.
04:20Do we carry a penalty in the next year?
04:21There's always a penalty.
04:22We have so many guys that we've moved the money.
04:24All right.
04:25But you understand, like, the $86 million or whatever it is with Deshaun Watson.
04:28It's like, well, we've got to figure a way out to make this palatable.
04:31With Jerry, Judy, let me make this argument.
04:35Casey Concepcion, Denzel Boston, breath of fresh air.
04:38Damn it.
04:39If I'd have known it was going to be like this,
04:41I really wish I would have played the Todd Munkin stuff earlier instead.
04:44Because what I was going to do at 920 was say there's a difference
04:46between rubbing me wrong last week about yourself
04:49and hitting the right notes with your team.
04:51Especially coming off the six years of Kevin Stefanski,
04:53which it's going to sound like I'm throwing him under the bus.
04:55I'm not trying to.
04:56But let me give you a preview of what's coming up at 922.
05:00You're trying to get guys to buy in.
05:01You are trying to establish the culture.
05:03That's why you got Jared Burst back in the trade
05:06because you thought he was going to be a really good player.
05:08And so far, yeah, I know this week was better than last week.
05:11Neither have been very good, but it's early, right?
05:15Part of the reason you get Jared Burst,
05:17or one of the sweeteners for Jared Burst,
05:19and part of the reason, but one of the sweeteners for Jared Burst
05:21is like, hey, he's a good teammate, going to be a locker room sheriff,
05:24right type of guy to have in there.
05:26If it ain't going to be that great of a year,
05:28you moved one game after their one win, you said five,
05:32which I think you're probably just excited.
05:34I think you'll go back to four if they end up getting beat this week.
05:36Remember, I had them losing that game.
05:37Okay, but if we're at around four or five,
05:40that means you're not going to win very many games.
05:42Is Jerry Judah going to make the situation any better?
05:45Nope.
05:45He is not going to make the situation any better at all.
05:48If he's this cantankerous and so many people think he is,
05:51I don't know how bad of a teammate he is.
05:53I have no idea.
05:54And remember, he was supposedly the guy lobbying behind the scenes for Deshaun.
05:58I understand that.
05:59And if we have so many people who are lining up,
06:01like Mark Schlaire, to say that he's a problem,
06:03do I want him around this season when there's a possible out even next season?
06:08See, that's what I have to bring up.
06:10The longer it goes.
06:11So let's see.
06:11Let's see how the next few weeks goes.
06:14Because you know how this is.
06:15There's so many random games in NFL season where a guy you've never heard of
06:18has a big game on offense.
06:22Yeah, but you've heard of Jerry Judy.
06:23You've given up assets and you've paid for Jerry Judy.
06:26It's not a guy you've never heard of.
06:27No, I know, but I'm just saying there will be an opportunity.
06:30There will be a play that he's going to have to be out there to try to make.
06:35Especially, think about this.
06:37If Boston, people were getting a little crazy yesterday.
06:40And rightfully so.
06:41It's been so much fun through the first two weeks on the big play explosiveness
06:45out of Denzel Boston.
06:47But people were comparing him to Josh Gordon.
06:49He's nowhere near as fast as Josh Gordon.
06:51He's nowhere near a freaking athlete as Josh Gordon.
06:53But you know he's going to play.
06:55Like, you know he's going to be available.
06:57So that's where he can be a big edge and a big advantage.
06:59So what I'm saying is, if he really is elevated to that degree,
07:04guess what defenses are going to do?
07:05Now you have to do what Jackson Smith and Jigba has seen, bracketed coverage.
07:10That opens up other areas on the field.
07:14And Todd Munkin can start to cook regardless of who the quarterback is.
07:17Could be Watson, could be Shador.
07:19And now all of a sudden, Jerry Judy is going to win a battle easily
07:22against what at that point could be a nickel DB.
07:27Well, he's going to smoke those guys off the line of scrimmage.
07:292-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
07:31Do we have a Jerry Judy problem?
07:33No catches, no yards on Sunday in Browns' win.
07:35One target.
07:36And he did look a little checked out on the sidelines.
07:42Several people sent it to me yesterday and Sunday night even,
07:46after Blake Whitehart scored the touchdown, he just kind of jogs off the field.
07:50Everybody else is losing their minds going, holy potatoes, we got the lead here.
07:53I don't think they were saying holy potatoes, I think they were cussing,
07:56but I'm not allowed to do that on the air, you see.
07:58I bet they were saying cuss words.
07:59If Todd Munkin's allowed to do it, come on.
08:01Well, Todd Munkin doesn't answer to the FCC.
08:03I do.
08:03That's how that works, brother.
08:05All right?
08:05Browns are going to Browns.
08:07F*** that.
08:08Getting to that here in a moment.
08:09The guys took that to heart.
08:10Getting to that here in a moment, damn it.
08:13Jerry Judy has a cap hit of what?
08:17An extra $13 million if he's not on the team?
08:20Yeah, it ain't 86.
08:23And I do think, what do you got there, Owen, again?
08:27So next season, it would be 15.8 if you cut him next, or if you trade him now.
08:34Okay.
08:35Next season's cap hit would be 15.8.
08:3815.8.
08:38This season would be 6.4, but you save three, I don't know.
08:43The cap is a wicked mistress.
08:46Someone call Jack Duffin.
08:49Get the bat signal out for Jack Duffin.
08:51It looks like we can do it, but, you know.
08:53Then to hell with it.
08:54Just move on from him then.
08:55Halfway through the year.
08:56Someone makes you the right offer.
08:57Someone offers you.
08:58What do you think you honestly could get for Jerry Judy?
09:02Fourth?
09:02Fifth?
09:03No, you couldn't get a fourth.
09:04Can't get a fourth?
09:04Damn it.
09:06Now, that one I was kind of serious on.
09:07Yeah, if you could do it.
09:08I was hopeful.
09:09I was hoping.
09:11Sixth?
09:12For Jerry Judy?
09:13Oh, yeah.
09:14All right, fine.
09:15What the hell?
09:15That's a former first-round pick.
09:16Well, because you said we might need him after guys get hurt, and I'm like, do we?
09:20Because will the pouting outweigh the production?
09:24Unless you're saying, hey, I'd rather have Isaiah Bond be in that role, but I don't know
09:28that they totally trust Bond.
09:30Do you totally trust Jerry Judy to that level?
09:34I'm just going to keep making the argument right back.
09:36Yeah, I would say that if, as a number one, no, I don't trust Jerry Judy.
09:42He ain't a number one.
09:43Denzel Boston's your number one.
09:44But if all of a sudden he's down to a number three, but really a five, because you've got
09:49all these other guys in front of him.
09:51Like, yeah, I think he could start to be a weapon.
09:55It's just, is he going to be okay with that?
09:57Well, you also had him dropping balls during training camp.
10:00All right.
10:02He has been cantankerous in the past.
10:05Now, I'm not trying to be the Mark Schlereth to him here in Cleveland, but I also, I got
10:12to have the right frame of mind.
10:14I still, we're one and one.
10:15All right.
10:16And if things don't go the way that we think they were, if things aren't going to go very
10:20well, which is what a lot of us still think they are, I don't need a cantankerous, I'll
10:28say it, poison in the locker room.
10:31You know, that's my issue.
10:33Do you think, let me ask you this.
10:34Do you think the camera just caught him at bad moments or was he pissed?
10:39I don't think his body language has ever been good.
10:42Maybe in the NFL.
10:43Answer the question.
10:43Do you think he was pissed or do you think the camera just caught him in a...
10:47That he was not being involved.
10:48He's a wide receiver.
10:49He's a former first-round pick in the NFL.
10:51Yeah, he's probably...
10:51I'll give him a little bit of that.
10:52I'll give him a little bit of that.
10:53But you were so damn happy you got paid, so take your check.
10:56Right.
10:56Your check comes...
10:57Do they still come on Tuesday?
10:58Do they still come on Tuesdays or whatever it is?
10:59Your check comes today.
11:00I think it's direct deposit.
11:01Okay, your direct deposit comes today.
11:03Enjoy spending it.
11:04That you wanted the money, you got the money.
11:07You were so excited, you got the bag.
11:09Which, by the way, goes right in the face all you...
11:10Well, if they boo him, then guys aren't going to want to stay anymore.
11:14Oh, yeah.
11:15You think Jerry Judy...
11:15Jerry Judy's upset, but he ain't upset spending that damn money.
11:19He had no problem coming here.
11:20But the hard fans were too tough on him.
11:22Well, and again, you know...
11:23He has all that money.
11:24It's also interesting because, you know, whether it was edited or...
11:28Or not in the offseason, there were a bunch of people that were like, he's choosing sides.
11:33He's choosing sides between the quarterbacks at a quarterback competition.
11:36Well, okay, but even if he did choose sides and people are going with the edited video,
11:40you know that he's liked Deshaun Watson in the past.
11:43Now, he was sitting right next to Deshaun Watson on the bench.
11:46I'm sure if you thought that your quarterback was forgetting who you are, I bet you'd try to sit close
11:51to him, too.
11:53Hey, still here.
11:54Well, compare that to Drake London in Atlanta.
11:57What he was doing...
11:58Holy cow!
11:59Who was he directing?
12:00Don't get me started.
12:01A lot of that...
12:02Don't get me started.
12:03A lot of the stuff that was coming out of his mouth that he was caught during their blowout loss
12:06this week.
12:07Well, either way, I just...
12:09I'm just pointing out here is that there is a law of diminishing returns.
12:13And I understand that we've had the whole production, production, production.
12:16Well, he's not really been productive.
12:18He wasn't really productive last year.
12:20We've only been through two games this year.
12:21So I'm not saying...
12:22But I think he needs to be on the block.
12:24And if anybody wants to come call in, and if we find ourselves like,
12:27yeah, we're feeling really good right now, and hopefully things continue.
12:30But, again, it's a thin team, so I wouldn't expect us to still win a lot of games.
12:34I need my culture to be right.
12:36I need Denzel Boston to get fed.
12:38I need Casey Concepcion to get fed.
12:41Harold Fannin, et cetera, et cetera.
12:43So go with those guys, and if you can get anything for Jerry Judy,
12:46if I can get a six-round pick in return, whatever.
12:49I know I'm already going to have a little bit of a cap hit
12:51because of Deshaun Watson still being on the roster.
12:53Fine.
12:54I know I'm going to have another cap hit of Jerry Judy being on the roster.
12:57That's another thing.
12:58Like, you've addressed the wide receiver position.
13:00Fine.
13:00I'll just use it and turn around and get another wide receiver next year.
13:03Unless Jerry Judy continues to go.
13:04Because now, I just don't know if I trust him.
13:07There's been a little bit of like, well, you know, he's a wide receiver,
13:11and wide receivers, they tend to get a little bit upset.
13:14They're not trying to just go out there and work out.
13:15They want to catch footballs.
13:16I get that.
13:17I got it.
13:19I felt that way about him last year.
13:21Probably wouldn't be too thrilled if I had the quarterback situation going on,
13:23and it just seemed like I was running wind sprints every Sunday for no reason.
13:28But damn, man, we're in year two, and we got – we spent high draft picks.
13:33Why do we spend high draft picks when we relatively have a still relatively young
13:37wide receiver who's still supposed to be our number one?
13:40What's that tell you?
13:41What'd that tell him?
13:43So if we're going to be a problem here, I'll move on for a six-round pick,
13:47and I'll eat the salary.
13:48Well, hey, look, that's the one thing, just like the quarterback competition,
13:52everything we said, we're not in the building, we're not there every day.
13:56Yeah, we see the three hours on TV, you know, and we see that body language
14:00and everything, but what is it like?
14:02Is it worse?
14:02Let me throw another feather on that.
14:03Is it worse behind the scenes?
14:04You think Todd Munkin's going to put up with any of that?
14:07You saw what Sean Payton did when he came in.
14:08He's like, no thank you.
14:10So if it is that bad, if it really is, Tom Munkin will certainly be all over it.
14:14Let's reverse this for a second, shall we?
14:16Is that I do believe that there is something to be said for Deshaun Watson
14:19being a veteran, throwing on schedule, and helping out the maturation process
14:22that Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston.
14:25All right.
14:26Do you believe that Shador is going to play at some point this year?
14:29Sooner than later still?
14:30Sooner than later still.
14:31Do you feel that Jerry Judy, it's already been seven games,
14:34do you feel Jerry Judy, the veteran, is going to help out the Shador Sanders process?
14:39Ooh.
14:40Then what are you holding on for?
14:41You didn't say yes, you said ooh,
14:43ooh, which means you think no.
14:44So what are we holding on for?
14:47Because Jerry Judy is 27 years old.
14:50He's right in the middle of his prime for crying out loud.
14:53He's supposed to be a number one wide receiver.
14:56You drafted wide receivers in the first and early second rounds.
15:00What are we lying to ourselves about here, gentlemen?
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