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00:00So we're taking a look here.
00:01Okay, he's jumping from out of bounds.
00:03So when 18 is touching the foot, now, do you see that?
00:07It's dead when he touches the ball.
00:09When 18 is touching the ball, we've got one second on the clock.
00:12And we're going to have another play from the previous spot, okay?
00:18Audio courtesy NBC Peacock, Big Ten, the whole deal.
00:22Obviously mass confusion in the Michigan and Western Michigan game.
00:26No, they clarified it.
00:27Oh, they did, did they?
00:28No, right there, it's so obvious.
00:30Thanks to all the Michigan fans who have besieged, basically, there's like, what?
00:392% of college football fans are Michigan fans.
00:42If you throw in every team, every 2%, that's pretty big, right?
00:46Of all the college, maybe it's 3%, I don't know.
00:50Actually, you know what, that's a fair point.
00:51They made sure to tell the other 97% the, well, actually, this is how scorekeeping and timekeeping work in
01:01sports.
01:02And I feel like it's been clarified.
01:03So it's much ado about nothing.
01:05Michigan won fair and square.
01:08Incredible.
01:08I guess we could just move on.
01:10I love it.
01:11I love it.
01:11I actually love the fact that the win, as much as, you know, we were digging the grave and everything
01:19on Saturday night,
01:20because it was an amazing, amazing, amazingly spectacular, disastrous game for Michigan.
01:26Like, they could not move the football.
01:28They paid this quarterback so much money.
01:30Their program just looks to be in shambles in every which way.
01:34And I kind of, in a sneaky way, I love that they won the game.
01:38Because just like them winning the national championship, where I said, no, their penalty is that whenever anybody ever mentions
01:45that championship again,
01:47people get to say you cheated.
01:49And then you get to have to debate it.
01:51You know what?
01:52That's amazing.
01:53That's amazing.
01:54That's an incredible penalty that they have to pay that I don't think anybody could litigate in any other way.
02:00So in this way, yeah, if they lose the game, it's another app state.
02:03It's another humiliation.
02:04It's a team that's in your state.
02:06You paid them 1.5.
02:07Boy, Michigan gets nothing for their money anymore.
02:09They pay the quarterback more than any quarterback in college football, any other player in college football.
02:15You pay Western Michigan to come and beat you, and then they get another second tacked on,
02:20because obviously the Mac knows where the money comes from.
02:24The Western Michigan knows where the money comes from.
02:27Well, you don't get less money for winning.
02:28They could have just won the game and kept the money as well.
02:31Sure, but they're basically a big revenue driver for you every year.
02:36You know, there's some years where two Big Ten teams play Western Michigan.
02:40Oh!
02:40So that's even more a consideration.
02:43What you're saying is, is that, hey, we keep our opinions to ourselves,
02:48and we keep getting scheduled for $1.5 million paydays.
02:51Yeah, this was the SEC, or even honestly, if this were the Big Ten, two teams in the Big Ten,
02:56we would have temporary restraining orders.
02:59We'd have motions filed.
03:01Rutgers.
03:02If Rutgers was fighting for a win.
03:04It would have happened literally the minute the game was over, they would have found a judge.
03:09They probably would bring the cloak and the gavel to the game.
03:12It's Michigan.
03:13There's judges in that stadium.
03:14Yeah.
03:14They would have filed it immediately.
03:16And obviously, if it went the other way, we know what would have happened if it went the other way.
03:20So, that is to say, I kind of love that Michigan got the extra second.
03:26So, this is going to be synonymous with Michigan for the rest of eternity.
03:30It's going to be brought up.
03:32See, I don't think...
03:32Anytime a game comes down to the final second, they're going to go,
03:35Now, wait a second.
03:36Do we have the Michigan time?
03:37Do we have Michigan standard time?
03:39What do we have here?
03:40I love that this is going to be brought up forever, and it's inescapable for Michigan fans.
03:45You're going to be annoyed.
03:45This is amazing.
03:46I'm not a Michigan fan.
03:47I know you accused me of it to the point where people have blocked me thinking that you're correct,
03:51which I'm like, boy, if you really believe Anthony Lima on anything, you got something going.
03:57As an outside observer, I'm going to really disappoint you.
04:00I don't think of Connor Stallions first and foremost when I think about Michigan winning the national championship three years
04:05ago.
04:05And I don't think I'm going to think about this unless you keep bringing it up over and over and
04:10over again.
04:11I don't think I'm going to think about this.
04:12I think this is a week one game that gets added to the rest of it.
04:15So if they end up at nine and three, it's just like, well, I'm not going to sit there and
04:18go, well, they're really eight and four.
04:19And the clock saved them because, yeah, you got the clock.
04:23You got the second back, but you still had to get another Hail Mary.
04:28It wasn't like they just gave you the touchdown.
04:30Western Michigan celebrated the biggest win in school history for seven minutes, eight minutes.
04:35I'm sorry.
04:35Go back out there again and do it again.
04:37Go back out there and knock her down.
04:38I hate to be that way.
04:40I hate it.
04:40I hate it for them.
04:41Somebody said a Hail Mary, a Hail Mary, the odds of he on a Hail Mary is like 10%, which
04:46seems outrageously high.
04:48That does actually seem very high.
04:49But if that's even remotely accurate and then you make them do it twice, like eventually, yeah.
04:54Eventually, yeah.
04:55I guess every team is going to complete one down the road.
04:57It's like when you're down by two scores and you hit the two-point conversion early because you're like, well,
05:00we got to try to do the two-point conversion.
05:02So, you know, the odds are you get it the first time or what?
05:05Like, is that what you're saying with the Hail Mary?
05:08Yeah, eventually, especially after they ran around and celebrated like they won the Super Bowl because that would be their
05:12Super Bowl.
05:12What I think is Western Michigan, if you look at their schedule, if they would have won this game, they
05:17could have been in the playoff.
05:18Remember, they won the MAAC last year.
05:20So they could have been a playoff talk team all year.
05:24But, again, what's more important to Western Michigan?
05:26You know, they're not going to fight this.
05:28The MAAC is not going to fight this.
05:29I saw the Honorable John Steinbrecher, the Commissioner of the MAAC.
05:33You saw him?
05:34They were all playing very – no, I saw the statement that was put out by the Mid-American Conference.
05:39And you know what?
05:40I thought you had gained audience with him or something.
05:42I get to – and you know what?
05:43You guys get the Hail Mary win and I get to forever singed in my brain get to know that
05:48you guys rushed the field after you beat a back team.
05:51All right, that part of all the disappointment.
05:54You rushed the field and we can't ever take that away from you, Michigan.
05:58You fought that for the honor of your school, fair and square.
06:03You guys, with an extra second, you completed an amazing miracle play.
06:07We are lockstep on that.
06:08And you rushed the field and no one can take that away from you.
06:11Bryce Underwood walking around like he was Tommy Frazier.
06:18I'm like, what are you doing?
06:20What are you doing?
06:22What – like just big badass.
06:26I'm going, what are you – what is – didn't you just nearly lose?
06:29I love it.
06:29And I understand you're excited.
06:32And then like at the end, like didn't Whittingham – wasn't he pretty tepid on the whole starting quarterback thing?
06:38No teams fight for an extra second the way that they got to.
06:41You got an extra second, I would cheer too.
06:43That's amazing.
06:44Most teams, they just lose the game.
06:46The game's over.
06:47Michigan gets this miracle one second that all these referees, all these analysts for college football say,
06:54hey, I've never seen this before.
06:55The NFL – the NFL has said, you don't get to do this again.
06:58The game's over.
06:59There is no way they wrote it in the rule books because of the lag time between what the seconds
07:04are that you see
07:05and them keeping clock on the field.
07:07The game's over in any other sport.
07:09So this is amazing.
07:10I would celebrate too that you got a miracle extra Michigan second.
07:14You know, this is the beauty of college football now.
07:16Like I couldn't say this a decade ago.
07:18But like seeing Bryce Underwood walking around – like basically when like –
07:21when Charles Woodson had the rose in his mouth, in his teeth, when they were going to the Rose Bowl,
07:27it's like, all right, you're going to the Rose Bowl.
07:28You didn't just beat Western Michigan.
07:30I would have to feel that Charles Woodson, if they were close against Western Michigan
07:33to the point where they needed an escape like that, probably still wouldn't be too thrilled.
07:37I mean, he's one of the greatest of all time.
07:39And you could say, well, how can you compare – well, you're paying him to.
07:42You're paying him to be a guy that – you're not beating him to beat Western Michigan.
07:46You're beating him to take your team to the Big Ten Championship game.
07:49That's what you're paying him to do.
07:50What's the point of the money if it ain't going to go that way?
07:54And now, again, I'm reading a tepid endorsement of him as starting quarterback from Kyle Whittingham.
08:00Schroen Moore ain't walking through that door.
08:02Literally, he's not allowed to.
08:042-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
08:06He gets an hour.
08:07We got people on this.
08:08Ken says this is going to be forgotten.
08:09You let me know when Streetsboro Youth Football, the game goes down to the final second,
08:12and there's a debate.
08:13You tell me if Michigan doesn't come out of somebody's mouth.
08:16Well, I'm tied to the one situation I just said.
08:20This is never going away.
08:21I'm a neutral observer in here.
08:23They're the same colors.
08:24They're going to change how they do the scoreboards and the clocks in college football because of this.
08:27Everybody has somehow kept pictures on their phones of me with your AI picture of me and Michigan stuff,
08:33which I'm not a Michigan fan.
08:35I mean, I would have had to do what I would have had done had they fired Schroen Moore earlier.
08:42But sometimes the road less travel is less travel for a reason.
08:46And so now I don't have to worry about any of that.
08:48Probably never will either.
08:49So that's going to be just fine, Tone, just fine.
08:52It was – I did – I was asked this by a listener about this over the weekend.
08:58And I go, what do you think?
08:59I thought it was ridiculous.
09:00I thought that it was a loss, and it should have been a loss.
09:04And I thought that – you know, I know that it wasn't like the home clock.
09:07They did a Big Ten clock, which you could still say, well, the Big Ten did one of their marquee
09:11brands losing to Western Michigan.
09:13I don't know if it's the same deal as what it used to be.
09:16Like, if it were Michigan and Michigan were an odds-on favorite to win a national championship under the old
09:22system,
09:22whether it was a four-team or the BCS, maybe that would be the case.
09:26You still have a play – you still have a whole season.
09:29And if you were an 11-1 Michigan team, say you beat Ohio State – and I think – I
09:34don't think that these things are possible.
09:35But say there were an 11-1 Michigan team or even a 10-2 Michigan team that still beat Ohio
09:40State.
09:41Yes, I know that that's a terrible, terrible, terrible loss.
09:44But you're telling me you wouldn't put them in the top 12?
09:47At the beginning of the season.
09:48Like, hey, wild-ass year, because I'm guessing there's quality wins.
09:53I just don't see it as the season-ender the way a lot of people would have.
09:58And maybe I'm wrong on that.
09:59You saw Notre Dame lose two games at the beginning of the year.
10:03But I would say that there's going to be more quality in a Big Ten schedule for Michigan than there
10:08would have been Notre Dame afterwards.
10:09Yeah, it's just their quarterback looks like he sucks.
10:11Yeah, their quarterback looks like he sucks.
10:13I don't care what their schedule is the rest of the year.
10:15I mean, if that's how he looks against Western Michigan –
10:18Then they're going to lose plenty of games and there's not going to be any problems.
10:20Then, yeah, it's not going to be a conversation.
10:21Yeah.
10:22I mean, the coach didn't even – didn't even really back them after the game.
10:25No, why would you?
10:26So, I think that's the bigger problem for Michigan.
10:29I think they've got to worry first and foremost –
10:31I think they do as well.
10:32If they're even a top 25 team.
10:34But I'm not even trying to be pro-Michigan.
10:36I thought Western Michigan got hosed.
10:39I know that the Big Ten did their own clock.
10:41But I just – I thought honestly, like, hey, if Michigan would have lost the game,
10:45I just didn't think it was the end-all, be-all like it would have been 10 years ago.
10:49After all was said and done, you've been a football guy your whole life.
10:52You've seen all these different situations play out.
10:55It's all terrible for Western Michigan.
10:56I remember the Will Howard trying to get down and stop the clock against Oregon in a regular season a
11:02few years ago
11:03where obviously they got their revenge on Oregon in the playoff and won the national championship.
11:06We weren't sitting there, you know, making sure whether or not there was one second left on the clock.
11:11Did you learn anything about the way that the networks and the conferences get together on the clock situation after
11:19all this?
11:20No.
11:20No, I didn't.
11:21Was I supposed to take a lesson from this?
11:24Oh, every Michigan fan is doing the – well, actually, this is how it's always been.
11:29Okay.
11:30Well, great.
11:31Remember, they synchronized the clocks with nine seconds left.
11:33They did it at 35.
11:34They did it at nine seconds.
11:35They did it before kickoff, which they do.
11:38And I've actually seen them, and I've been a part of those conversations with the trucks and the colleges syncing
11:43of the clock.
11:44But I don't know.
11:47Apparently, the officials, are they going to be monitored now every step of the way on every play to see
11:53if the second is where it's supposed to be?
11:54Yeah, listen, I thought it was BS, but at the same time, like, hey, you had one second left.
11:59You could have knocked it down again.
12:00It was a Hail Mary.
12:01It's a low percentage chance to get it.
12:03And, yeah, you got a second crack at it.
12:06I felt bad for Western Michigan, but it's like you got to knock it down.
12:09You got one second left.
12:10Get it out of there.
12:11Find a way to knock it down.
12:13Find a way to move on.
12:14That's the way it goes.
12:15Felt bad.
12:16Felt bad.
12:17Sucks to be them.
12:19So you're kind of stuck in this role where even if it was one second, like if they would overturn
12:23the call and you end up winning it, I'd feel a lot worse for Western Michigan.
12:27But, yeah, Michigan ended up escaping with it.
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