00:00Valenti Enrico, marking for Mike here on 97.1, discussing one of the most, one of the biggest
00:07injustices I think we've ever seen in sports, and you look at that Max statement, we want
00:13to be recognized as the winners of that game.
00:16So are they talking, Rico, about the literal sense, or the figurative sense?
00:20Because in the figurative sense, they kind of already are.
00:24You guys looked at the new AP poll today?
00:27Michigan's outside of the top 25, and Western is right on their heels.
00:33Michigan is 28th, 6, 27, 28, 29, 30, 30.
00:37Western is 32.
00:39So Western is already on the heels of Michigan.
00:42I'm disgusted that Michigan got a single top 25 vote after that.
00:47Or do you think they're fighting for the actual win?
00:52Yeah, I think they're fighting for the actual win because I'm trying to
00:56pull up their schedule because, Mark, if they get that win and they run the
01:01table, they can say, hey, guys, consider us for the college football playoff.
01:05No, they are the team if that happens.
01:07There is no consideration.
01:08So that's why, yeah, it's important.
01:11So I do think that either the other teams in the MAAC were like, are you nuts?
01:17Are you rolling over and showing your belly to the Big Ten?
01:20No.
01:23You want to stay the commissioner, go back in there and fight for us because that's
01:27your job.
01:28Your job isn't to sit here and just let the Big Ten become your pimp.
01:32And that's what it felt like.
01:34Here's what Western has.
01:36They have Boise State on their schedule on September 26th.
01:39That's a good matchup.
01:40And then they will have Toledo on October 24th.
01:43Other than that, they have no one.
01:45So, right, you beat Boise, you beat Toledo, you could go to the college football playoffs.
01:53You're that group of five or group of 16 now.
01:56You're going.
01:57So that's why this game is that important.
01:59And it's not, it's funny.
02:03This is why I said, I'm rooting for radio.
02:05If you take this to court, there's a clear line of delineation.
02:09Game had ended.
02:11And if you could prove the game had ended, you won.
02:13You could say that that final play should have never happened.
02:17And a spectacular catch by JJ, by the way.
02:20Fantastic catch.
02:21Underthrown ball.
02:22Great catch.
02:24They got the win.
02:25But you could take that away because it wasn't like it was time.
02:28You can't, you don't have to play the what if game.
02:30Effectively, that play never happened.
02:32Right.
02:32There is no what if if you simply say, time ran out, that play never happens.
02:38So if you're Western Michigan, if you're the Mac and then the Mac realized, okay, the
02:43Big Ten may have cut us a check.
02:44But if we can make it to the college football playoffs, that's, that's more money for us.
02:49Wait a minute.
02:51Why are we, why are we giving up right now?
02:53Well, if you were doing the, the little guy rankings for who's going to make the group
02:58of six rankings, who's going to make the CFP?
03:00Western would be far and away number one right now.
03:03Right.
03:03Because Western beat Michigan.
03:06Boise would be two because they almost beat Oregon, even though you got the loss.
03:10It's like, okay, that was really impressive.
03:12I was about to say Western would have the best victory.
03:15So when you go and do all of that, yeah, that's going to be the best thing.
03:18And they, they would get it.
03:19You know, as well as I do, that's going to be the best victory for a group of six the
03:23whole year.
03:24There is not going to be another group of six dub that, that matches that Memphis would be
03:28the only other team that I think would challenge.
03:31And I don't know if they're going to be playing a top school or not.
03:34So that's why Western is taking a step back and kudos to them.
03:39Now, in order to get that win, you're probably going to have to fight this thing in court
03:42because the big 10 and Michigan, they're not going to come off the wind.
03:45They're not going to give it up.
03:47And here's the, if I'm Michigan, I'm not giving that win up willingly.
03:50You could say, well, you don't deserve it.
03:52There's a lot of things in life we've all gotten that we didn't deserve.
03:55Let's face it.
03:56Okay.
03:56Well, I got to tell you, I'm with David.
03:59I would give the win up willingly because it's not what's right.
04:02It's not what's just.
04:04And I actually took, no, no, no.
04:06I took a lot of calls from Michigan fans on Sunday who at least told me they would give
04:12up the win.
04:13It's easy to say you would do it when you know you don't have to do it.
04:17Right.
04:18Okay.
04:18And that's the problem.
04:19They don't have to do it.
04:20Mark, you know, from the bottom of my heart, if I could, I would, but Hey, I can't.
04:27Oh, and push comes to shove.
04:28Oh, it's real now.
04:29Real.
04:29So it's real.
04:30I really got to give it up now.
04:32Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
04:49You could make it into the college football playoffs.
04:52Yeah.
04:52I think that the Mac and Western Michigan want to reconsider and they're doing an about
04:56face and, but I was so disappointed with them at the end of this week because it was
05:01like America was fighting for you, but you weren't fighting for yourself.
05:04So at that point it was just like, well, how many compliments for Lance Taylor did you
05:08hear?
05:08Oh, look at that class.
05:10Oh my goodness.
05:11Dude, stand up for your team.
05:13That's how you acted in justice, right?
05:15Like be the bigger person.
05:17Doug gave him the champ of the week.
05:20Like, you know what the funny thing is when you take the high road and you're the bigger
05:24person, you never win.
05:26Right.
05:26You want to know why?
05:27Because the establishment always goes low and they cut you off at your knees, but you're
05:33always supposed to be the better person.
05:34How come the establishment never has to be the better person?
05:37Because they know they don't have to.
05:39You're going to look bad if you try to fight us.
05:41So just go along with us this time.
05:43Good for them.
05:44What happens to the rule follower when they're up against somebody who never follows the
05:48rules?
05:49The rule follower loses that every single time.
05:52You got to get down in the mud.
05:54That was your opportunity to get down in the mud.
05:56And I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
05:58Yeah.
05:59And you know, that was Michigan fans.
06:01Number one defense was that, well, they weren't upset.
06:04Why are you upset?
06:05They weren't upset.
06:06Funny, because different scenario, but you guys remember, I don't know, you weren't here
06:12when they had the post-game tunnel fight, Michigan-Michigan State, Ward Manuel and Jim
06:18Harbaugh got up there filled with, they were angry.
06:22Oh, we're going to file charges and we're going to do this and this is unacceptable.
06:27And every Michigan fan ate it up and said, yes, that's my coach.
06:31That's my AD.
06:32They're standing up for their guys.
06:34But if I'm a Western fan and I saw that, David, if I was your wife, I would just be
06:39like,
06:40you know what?
06:41Just cash.
06:42Take my diploma back.
06:43I mean, she wasn't happy.
06:45She wasn't happy.
06:46She's like, they're not fighting.
06:48You're about to hear all words that you can't say on the radio because of what happened to us.
06:54NBC flashed a final score.
06:56Lance was doing the W on TV on the field.
07:00And you're going to take that away from us?
07:02We're going to become the first team in the history of college football to suffer a loss
07:06after the end of regulation time.
07:09If I was, and then we're about to get to the callers right after this, but if I was one
07:12of
07:12the players, I would have been very upset at coach the whole way back to Kalamazoo.
07:16Hey, coach, you can kick me off the team.
07:18I'm very disappointed you didn't stand up for us.
07:21I'm very disappointed because we're your players.
07:24We got robbed and you sat there and took it.
07:26No, you're the leader of all of us.
07:30What message did you just send us right now that it's okay to get screwed over?
07:34And while they were trying to be classy, did it look like they were upset at all?
07:38The classiness.
07:40Did it look like they had just had their guts ripped out of them?
07:42Or did it look like, oh man, I'm classy.
07:44That's Michigan.
07:45They did everything the right way.
07:47What did you just watch?
07:49I talked to the Big Ten and they explained it.
07:51Well, if they explained it to you the way they explained it to us, they still got a lot
07:55of explaining to do.
07:55You know what the Big Ten explained?
07:57Hey, if you challenge this, there goes all your games.
08:00You got a lot of explaining to do, Lucy.
08:032, 4, 8, 5, 3, 9, 9, 7, 9, 7.
08:05Let's get to Howard in West Bloomfield.
08:07Howard, you're on.
08:09Hey, I have, thanks for taking my call.
08:11I have a couple of questions to Rico that I wanted to pose.
08:17And I think you're old enough.
08:21Spartan Bob, you recognize him?
08:24And are you willing to give back that victory?
08:28No.
08:30No, you're not.
08:32And your outrage now is just incredible.
08:35Okay, Howard, Howard, Howard.
08:37No, no, no, Howard.
08:38Howard, I'm going to let you talk.
08:40You sat on hold for over an hour, but you weren't listening.
08:45Use those two ears.
08:47I was the one who said you don't give back games.
08:51I was the one who said you don't give back victories.
08:56That anybody who says they're going to do that are lying to themselves.
09:00I don't know where you're coming from with this, but, yeah.
09:05Go ahead.
09:06Let them speak now.
09:07The green and white lenses really are coming through here.
09:10Oh, my God.
09:10You know what?
09:11I can't do it.
09:12Howard, Howard, Howard.
09:13You sat on an hour just to do this.
09:16Howard doesn't want to have a conversation.
09:17You sat on an hour for an hour on hold to talk green and white.
09:21This isn't green and white.
09:24David, maybe, Corbin, help me out here.
09:27Did I not say this isn't Michigan's fault?
09:32Yes.
09:33You're not a fan of any of the teams here, so you're objective.
09:36Correct.
09:37It's not Michigan's fault, and Michigan shouldn't give the game back.
09:40You did say those two things, yes.
09:41Okay, so first thing out of Howard's mouth is, would you green and white, and would you
09:45give back this burden, Bob?
09:46Well, the other thing is, that's the most elementary argument, too.
09:51Hey, Howard, yeah.
09:52I mean, that was mommy.
09:53She hit me first.
09:55I mean, that goes back to when we were six years old.
09:57That's that small-minded Michigan fan right there.
10:00It is.
10:00That small-minded.
10:01Well, Howard, you shouldn't have to fight this hard because you knew you got lucky.
10:07It's okay to say you got lucky, and sometimes we do in sports.
10:12Every team has that play you can't explain.
10:15You throw up your hands and say, I'll take that.
10:18That's all.
10:19But go ahead.
10:20So Spartan Bob, would you give him?
10:21Hey, Spartan Bob.
10:23Big Ten came out and said there was more time.
10:26If you won't go back to 2001 and give us that win.
10:30Michigan fan says it was criminal.
10:32You know what, David?
10:33They got the win.
10:35And in the end, you weren't giving it back.
10:38You got lucky.
10:39Plain and simple.
10:40Charles is up next.
10:42Charles, you're on 97.1.
10:44Good afternoon, gentlemen.
10:45Thank you for taking my call.
10:47Hey, Charles.
10:49This whole thing is an absolute travesty.
10:52You guys mentioned Armando Galarraga and Jim Joyce earlier.
10:57Referencing, looking back at this years from now, everyone's going to look at each other on the street and say,
11:03yeah, Broncos won that game.
11:05But I don't know what they can really do.
11:08I like Rico's idea, you know, to run it in court.
11:11You know, it seems like most of college football has ran through the courthouse these days anyway.
11:16Yeah, I mean, at this point, Charles, it sounds ridiculous that if I said this a few years ago, you
11:23would be like, come on, man.
11:24But right now, maybe this is what Western Michigan and the MAAC will have to do.
11:29You know what?
11:30We're going to take you to court because everybody gets decided.
11:33I need the national title game to be decided in court.
11:36That's where we're headed, don't you know?
11:38That's where we are headed, Charles.
11:40LSU, SEC, Western, Michigan.
11:43That's exactly where we're headed.
11:45So I've got an idea to prevent this from ever happening again.
11:50We'll take your calls on this.
11:52One of the greatest injustices we've ever seen in sports.
11:54How could we prevent this from ever happening again?
11:57That's next here on 97.1.
