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Willard and Dibs join Steiny and Guru on a Wednesday edition of the Crossover. The guys discuss the Giants' core (with a focus on Rafael Devers' future with the Giants) and more.
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00:00Oh, I'm Steph Curry. Don't interrupt me.
00:03You guys got to put some respect on my gambling.
00:05Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:10All right, it's time for the crossover brought to you by Bay Alarm Rest Easy.
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00:15Willard and Dibbs officially in the house.
00:18The fellas.
00:19What's up, gentlemen?
00:20Hey.
00:21Yo. What's up, Stiney?
00:23How we doing?
00:23We were trying to identify Team Coors earlier today.
00:28Coor?
00:29Yeah, and who's a keeper and who's not?
00:33I'll just start it this way.
00:35Evan threw out a text.
00:37Who are you building around if you're each of these teams?
00:40Building around.
00:42And it's almost a question that's got to be defined.
00:45Because when I hear who you're building around,
00:47I automatically think, well, they must have a young star.
00:52Because that's who you build around.
00:54But let's say the Warriors.
00:55Do they really have a young star?
00:56Are they really building around pods?
01:00We had a call that said, no.
01:01They're building with pods.
01:03I thought it was a great distinction.
01:04I think that's fair.
01:05Anyway, yeah.
01:06So we were just talking about keepers and, you know, giants.
01:10Who's your core?
01:11Would we all agree that we're at highest priority?
01:14It's Eldridge, right?
01:15No doubt.
01:16Okay.
01:16For sure.
01:17That golf shirt is a keeper, too, by the way.
01:19Thank you very much.
01:19Just wanted to let you know.
01:20Appreciate it.
01:20That's fancy.
01:21Look at him.
01:21Smile.
01:22Like a logo, like your English royalty or something over there.
01:26It's the Crail Golf Society and Club.
01:29Oh, it's a society.
01:30It's a society.
01:31You're part of a society?
01:32Well, no.
01:33I'm not a member.
01:33Oh, okay.
01:34But I saw the society when I was there.
01:38Like the Dead Poets Society?
01:40Is it similar to that?
01:41Good movie.
01:42Very good movie.
01:43I forget that movie.
01:44I'm glad we finally agree on the movie.
01:45Oh, Captain, my captain.
01:47I get that movie mixed up with the one where he says, or is it the same one?
01:52How about those apples?
01:53That's Good Will Hunting.
01:55Yeah.
01:56Also, Robin Williams, my former co-star.
01:59Flubber.
02:00That is great.
02:01Thanks.
02:03Thanks.
02:03Yes.
02:03Facts.
02:04Yeah.
02:05I think Robin Williams has a bigger role in one of those than the other.
02:08True.
02:09And he actually was in the credits, and I was not.
02:12And actually, one of us quit the movie early.
02:15Yeah, you were rocked.
02:15And I don't think it was him.
02:17So there you go.
02:18Oh.
02:18And the Frisbee went under the...
02:20Remember, you went and...
02:20That was during the filming of Jack.
02:22But yes, that's one of my low points as not only an athlete, as a human being.
02:28That's a good idea.
02:29Yeah, it's so bad.
02:29You got good stories.
02:30You need a book, man.
02:31Yeah.
02:32Yeah.
02:32I mean, I'll have Stiney write it.
02:35We've been just talking about...
02:36I don't know if he had...
02:37No, he wouldn't.
02:38I didn't want to...
02:39You had a premise.
02:40Go ahead.
02:41Eldridge.
02:42Right.
02:42So for the...
02:43And here's the other thing.
02:45You know, Evan was like three guys.
02:47So, he's like, identify three guys.
02:50So, you know, I said Schmidt.
02:52Yep.
02:53That counts.
02:54And then...
02:54That's what I was saying.
02:55I was listening to this in the car earlier.
02:56And I fixed it because he's like, yeah.
02:58Eldridge.
02:58And I'm like, Schmidt!
02:59Yeah.
02:59Schmidt!
03:00But he is her, so I forgot.
03:02But I went back and put him on.
03:02I'm like, this is Paul Schmidt!
03:03Yeah.
03:03We picked him up.
03:05Yep.
03:05You did.
03:05You did.
03:06This is where the war started.
03:08Devers?
03:10But it's not just...
03:11I love him.
03:12I love him.
03:12I love him.
03:13It's that you might have to build with him if you can't get rid of him.
03:17You might.
03:18And it's just like, are pitchers off the table here?
03:22Well, I thought...
03:23Webb?
03:23Sure.
03:24I think he can get more for Webb than Devers right now.
03:28That's why...
03:29How much more of Webb...
03:30That's why I picked Devers.
03:32You know what?
03:32I feel like Webb...
03:33We're on the back nine, like...
03:35Well, I don't know if we're necessarily...
03:37I mean, I get where you're coming from.
03:38Webb has two more years on his deal.
03:40Devers has 418.
03:41Like, I was thinking five years from now.
03:43Logan, you could trade without paying any money.
03:46Like, that'd be the biggest distinction I would make there.
03:48I mean, you could get more for Logan.
03:49Yeah.
03:49Somebody would just love to have Logan Webb.
03:51Yep.
03:51But no young pitcher, right?
03:53Or unless you got one in the trade that...
03:55Since you're ranking, Willard, I love what you said.
03:57You know, all that's good.
03:58The farm stuff.
03:59But talk to me when the food is ready for you.
04:02I mean...
04:02The turmeric, right?
04:02I mean...
04:03Right, right.
04:04The draft...
04:04They are right now completely activated on rebooting...
04:08Okay.
04:08All right.
04:09...the pitching in the farm system.
04:10And that first base conundrum with Eldridge, I think it's real.
04:14That's why I think they want to get rid of Devers if they could.
04:17They do, but I don't know if they can.
04:19And so, if you want to talk about the core...
04:21And I guess, Stiney, what I'm hearing you say is, like, the core of the next, I don't know,
04:25two to three years for each of these teams.
04:28And so, like, Devers, yeah, it's Devers and or Adamas, because I don't know if you can get
04:33rid of both of them.
04:34But I do think that when you go Eldridge and Schmidt, and then you have to pick whichever
04:39one of the vets you're going to be, quote, stuck with, and that becomes your core.
04:44Let me ask you this.
04:45If we found out today that you can move one of those three guys, which one would you prefer
04:52moving?
04:53Chapman, Adamas, or Devers?
04:55This is a tough question.
04:56Yeah.
04:56We're going to give you...
04:57And you know what?
04:58We're going to even tell you that the move, you'll take.
05:01You'll be like, that's not bad.
05:03That's different.
05:04I have the emotional answer, and then the roster functional answer.
05:07All right.
05:08The emotional answer, I think most Giants fans would say right now, is let's get rid of
05:11Willie Adamas.
05:12They seem maddest at him, and I get that.
05:16And they should be.
05:16Right?
05:17Like, you're getting...
05:18Your ROI is lowest on Willie Adamas.
05:22However, I would also say, if you really look at the way the Giants roster and farm system
05:28are built, that they are probably more likely to find a new home for Rafi Devers.
05:34A, because Bryce Eldridge is ready, and probably ready numbers-wise, to pick up for the production
05:41that you would lose there.
05:42And number two, the Giants farm system at the lower levels is littered with great-looking
05:48young middle infielders.
05:49So, in theory, you could wait until one of those is ready before you try to move on from
05:56Willie Adamas.
05:57And whether that's trading him or just having a very high-priced person on the bench, one
06:03of those.
06:04So, I think Devers is the most likely.
06:08Dibs?
06:08For me, it would be Adamas, because he is not a shortstop, and every day that passes, he's
06:14less and less of a shortstop.
06:15Defensively, he's not very good.
06:17At all.
06:17And right, and so now you've got, you know, second base that is, I guess, open.
06:22It's open now, and it's going to be open next year.
06:24So, if he wants to go out and play second, you have a shortstop who can go and take his
06:29place.
06:29Well, yeah, but Mark makes a good point about your shortstops.
06:32They are all one, two, three, maybe four years away.
06:36And so, you're a little bit stuck in that spot.
06:38But I wouldn't mind them getting a stopgap guy to play short, and you put Adamas at second,
06:44or you trade him.
06:45And the thing about Devers, like, as a DH or a first baseman, a hybrid, he's your best
06:50hitter no matter what.
06:51Where are you putting Schmidt?
06:52You're putting Schmidt at either second or third, or short, or...
06:57I mean, if Chapman's still on the team, that's your third baseman next year.
07:00Right.
07:00If you move Adamas to second, are you playing Casey at short?
07:04Maybe your left fielder.
07:05He'd be better at short than Adamas.
07:08Yeah, I would say it's his weakest of the three positions that he plays.
07:12That's fair.
07:13And I know he plays eight, but you know what I mean.
07:15I'd love to see him at third or second.
07:18Interesting.
07:18And my rosy outlook, I'd like to see Bo Davidson be at the starting left fielder next year.
07:23All right.
07:24That's, you know, maybe getting ahead of ourselves.
07:26Interesting.
07:27So, Adamas is hurting you at shortstop.
07:33So, you have to move him to second base.
07:36And then, somebody else has to play that position, even though it's his third best position.
07:42And I don't even know...
07:43Like, ideally, you don't do that stuff.
07:46Ideally, yeah.
07:47We're not in an ideal world right now.
07:49What's Schmidt's best position?
07:50Third?
07:50I mean, he came up as the third baseman.
07:52And I think that's his best position.
07:53And second baseman, he's really good at.
07:55But that's the least important position of the three.
07:59Yeah.
07:59Wow.
08:00I heard you guys the other day.
08:02And you made a compelling argument for...
08:06You and Dibbs are going back and forth.
08:08And you...
08:09I gotta be careful here with my words.
08:11You weren't defending Mike Dunleavy, but you were trying to break down just basically what he inherited and what he's
08:17hit on in the draft.
08:18And we were just talking about Giants pretty much all day.
08:21And I'm asking both of you, how can Johnny Cochran, the late, great Johnny Cochran, defend Buster Posey up into
08:29this juncture in his tenure as president of...
08:33Because everywhere I look, I'm trying to look for some good.
08:36And the Devers trade, I loved it.
08:38We all did.
08:38But outside of that, this rotation now and the bull and the Bailey trade, I'm starting to think like, man,
08:46when he wasn't hitting, Devers wasn't hitting.
08:49Devers ain't what he was now.
08:50Nobody was hitting.
08:51But I'm like, behind the plate is just...
08:53It's almost lightweight embarrassing.
08:55And it's been that way.
08:57But how can one defend Buster up into this point now?
09:01Like if Buster's name was Daryl, would he be in trouble?
09:04If I was a lawyer, if I were a defense lawyer, the first thing I would bring up is the
09:10calendar.
09:11And I would, and again, this is how I would attempt to argue.
09:15I'm not even saying I agree with all this.
09:17But I'd bring up, I'd show a calendar and I would say this is a little quick for people to
09:22be, a little quick for people to want to fire people.
09:26And then the more intricate answer, which I think you were kind of alluding to, to me is more, and
09:33I said this the other day,
09:34I think the Giants are already rebuilding.
09:36They'll just never say that.
09:38To me, there was a shift in their focus somewhere along the road.
09:43The acquisition of Devers was very much congratulated by all of us.
09:47Everybody.
09:48So I don't blame Buster for doing that because at the moment, you were 41 and 31.
09:54You needed a bopper.
09:55You couldn't find one to say yes.
09:57It made sense in the moment.
09:59It appears to have blown up in their face at such a level to where somewhere before the season started,
10:05they shifted their focus from winning now to we have to regenerate the young players in this system A,
10:13and a new CBA is coming next year B, which explains why they did bubkis in the offseason to help
10:21the Major League roster.
10:22And that's why I think, that's why the conclusion I come to is they would love to trade Rafi Devers.
10:28Oh, man.
10:28He doesn't fit with what they're doing anymore.
10:30Right, and honestly, if you look at what you talked about, Daryl, and Guru, is, you know,
10:35if his name was like Bill, Bill Swift, not the pitcher, but just some guy named Bill Swift.
10:40Yeah.
10:41I don't think that Buster survives the year, but it's Buster Posey.
10:44And, you know, give him a chance, and he's a legend, and all the rest of it,
10:48because you traded for Devers, and you had a guy in AAA who wants to play the same position,
10:53and you also signed Willie Adamas, and I think when you signed him, you overpaid him,
10:59and you probably didn't even think about the fact that he's not a great shortstop.
11:03So those two, the one-two punch of that, and then you add in the fact that Kyle Harrison now
11:08suddenly is healthy
11:09and knows how to pitch, like, that's a disaster.
11:12And, Will, I went real quick, I wasn't saying fire him.
11:15I could say Giant fans have all the right to be upset with the job done thus far.
11:19For sure.
11:19Of course, absolutely.
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11:30I think TK wrote an article today that I agree with.
11:32Oh, I didn't have some standard.
11:34Okay.
11:34Next year is sort of the reckoning year for Buster Posey,
11:39not meaning, like, you get to either keep your job or you're definitely fired.
11:42But now it's real in the field.
11:43I think that's the year where you can really start to form a
11:46should he be in this job or not kind of an opinion.
11:51Things get going really, really fast, and this has totally blown up in their face,
11:56and so he doesn't skate on that by any stretch.
12:00But, again, I go back to what I just said.
12:02When he acquired Devers, we were all in favor of it.
12:05I totally get why he did it.
12:06I will say it.
12:07Come on now.
12:08For whatever reason, the ingredients taste awful.
12:12And you won 81 games last year at the same club.
12:15Yep.
12:16But you lost a lot more than you won after the trade.
12:19Before you came in, I asked Stiney if it's all about the pitch in the bullpen,
12:23which is bad right now in the youth,
12:25but is Buster going to go shopping at the pitch in Nordstrom's this offseason,
12:30bar no work stoppage, to get a top tier, you know, try to get a couple guys,
12:35or will it be the Housers and Mallies of the world?
12:38Stiney was like, I don't think they're going to go try to get a – I go,
12:41if the opportunity presented itself, and you're telling me this offense is better
12:45than what it's been showing, and you get some starters in bullpen.
12:49When the Giants got Gosman and Radon, were they big money pitchers at that point,
12:54or did they need to, you know, reestablish their value?
12:58No, Gosman was one of those guys that they, you know, wanted –
13:02they sort of assessed with him, hey, there's some analytics,
13:06we want you to kind of throw this pitch a little bit more.
13:08I loved him.
13:09Right, and he came in and really popped as a giant.
13:12That's what allowed him to get a big contract elsewhere.
13:14So that wasn't big money, and Radon was a more known quantity,
13:19but was coming off of a major injury.
13:21So he had a very short contract, and it was kind of a prove-it thing.
13:25But buster spending, do you expect that?
13:28Ten hats?
13:29No, I don't.
13:30No, they're not going to get the top pitcher and give him seven years and $238 million.
13:36They're not going to do that.
13:37So if you're going to go out there and get a free agent,
13:40you're going to try and find somebody like Gosman or Radon,
13:42who is somebody who is in need of a little bit of a boost and a restart,
13:46and then you're probably going to try to look at your AAA
13:49and your other farm arms, which so far has not been great.
13:53And, you know, we talked about Wisenhunt yesterday
13:55and how he is, like, showing himself to not be the guy.
13:58And then you've got Seymour and Tidwell and all these other guys.
14:02Like, none of these pitchers are going to be your number two next year or your three.
14:07And they'll still be in need of a closer.
14:09Big time.
14:10Again, my take is they are already in a rebuild.
14:15Damn.
14:15So you don't spend big when you're in a rebuild and then add on to that.
14:19Remember now, the lockout comes in December, and that's happening.
14:23You don't need to worry about whether or not that's happening.
14:25That's happening.
14:261,000%, I promise.
14:28Well, they've got to be careful who they call up then.
14:30Well, it's partially that.
14:33Like, you know, are you going to manipulate the 40-man roster?
14:35Because minor league baseball will still play.
14:38But who's getting signed before they get locked out?
14:44The players are going to be very activated to do that.
14:47I think the owners will be less apt to pay.
14:50So then you do that dance of what's the right number.
14:53Like, I bet Tarek Skubal gets a big old thingy from the Dodgers
14:56before the lockout happens.
14:58Okay, all right.
14:59But I bet a lot of teams, Giants included, will just –
15:02they already kind of play the waiting game with the way they do free agents.
15:08How you doing, Siney?
15:10I'm dynamite.
15:11Feeling good.
15:12Where are you golfing?
15:13Karika.
15:13Out of bed.
15:14Yeah.
15:15What did you shoot last week when you went out there?
15:1891.
15:19Got a little frustrated, actually.
15:20Did you?
15:20Yeah, you know what that looks like for me?
15:23I go, boom.
15:24Swing?
15:25Aye, aye, aye.
15:27All right.
15:27Do you bang the ground with the club?
15:30No.
15:30Well, it's probably fatigue.
15:31You just came up from your trip.
15:32Eight days of straight golfing last week.
15:35Maybe.
15:36You might be right.
15:37You actually – you know, Gu, I'm sometimes quick to disagree with you,
15:40but you may be right on that one.
15:42I think it always – we can use fatigue for everything every day if you want.
15:46Yeah?
15:48I mean –
15:49We're busy.
15:49Yeah?
15:50It's a lot going on.
15:50I get tired every day.
15:52Yeah.
15:52I got Blue Chew coming back, too.
15:54Yeah?
15:54It's coming back?
15:55It's gold.
15:56Blue Chew gold.
15:57I love it.
15:58Okay.
15:59I don't get it.
15:59Is it blue or gold?
16:00The gold.
16:01It's Blue Chew gold.
16:03Blue Chew is the brand.
16:04Gold is the version.
16:05Yeah.
16:05When you're looking to metal in the bedroom, don't settle for a bronze.
16:12We all need a little help.
16:13Don't settle for a silver.
16:14That's right.
16:15Reach for the gold.
16:16And you'll still be in need of a closer.
16:18Yeah.
16:19I'm Guru, and I'm looking for the gold metal in between the sheets.
16:24Turned out around fast back there, didn't you?
16:25Yeah, he did.
16:26He just did that 78 seconds ago.
16:28Can I ask you a quick question about these two guys in here?
16:31So I'm coming from the barbershop, feeling fresh.
16:34I'm coming out.
16:35Car parked on the street.
16:36Big truck comes by, hits the window and the side, so I got damage.
16:40No rearview mirror.
16:41The glass is off.
16:42It's just terrible.
16:43They hit the left side of the mirror.
16:45And people came in.
16:45Who's driving the Cadillac?
16:47And I go, me.
16:48But anyway, I'm talking to dibs, and, you know, we check on each other.
16:53And I tell them what happened, send them photos.
16:56When it rains, it pours.
16:57That's what I got back.
16:59When it rains, it pours.
16:59This is right.
17:00Okay.
17:00Text my boy June the photos.
17:02You got bad luck.
17:03Now, you've been in two accidents, and you were not seriously hurt.
17:08Not even a little bit hurt.
17:08The kids were off in college.
17:10Do you feel like you got bad luck?
17:11Because I don't feel like I got bad luck.
17:12Not at all.
17:13I got some stuff going on.
17:14Not even a little bit.
17:16But when friends use your mishaps on them, this is a mischaracterization sensation.
17:24Okay.
17:24That's what it is.
17:25Because, yeah.
17:26No, say your side.
17:27I'll pay the buck.
17:28Because he sent me a picture coming out barbershop, two pictures, and my response was, anything
17:36stolen, thinking that, you know, I didn't know what actually had happened yet.
17:40I saw the mirror.
17:40It was like my mirror.
17:41My mirror was stolen by the front of another car.
17:43And he said, no.
17:44No, no, no, no, no.
17:45They hit it, kept going.
17:46Someone ran in, in told me.
17:49Hey, watch it.
17:51You know, I'm not a good taxer.
17:51See, that was my first question.
17:53They didn't stop.
17:54No, they kept going with it.
17:56It's 2026.
17:57And I said, sucks.
17:58I got hit by a motorcycle on the bridge, and it took out my mirror, 500 bucks.
18:02And he says, dude, I just did a quote, and it said 125.
18:06And I'm like, yeah.
18:08And I was going to hit submit, and turned out it was 625.
18:11Yeah.
18:11W-G-F.
18:12I hit submit, safe light, don't come to the job.
18:15And I responded with G-O-D-D-A-M-N.
18:19Yeah.
18:19So, before I got to, when it rains, it pours, there was a back and forth.
18:23I was showing interest, concern, and, you know,
18:26a lot of empathy before I got to the cliche, when it rains and pours.
18:31So, that's the full back story on the back and forth.
18:35I think you handled it appropriately.
18:40You could have ended it in a different tone, is all I'm saying.
18:44But that's, it's not inappropriate.
18:46It's just about how everybody's brains work.
18:48Mine is flawed in the other direction.
18:50Right.
18:51Mine is completely flawed in the other direction.
18:53I will find.
18:55The pot, okay.
18:56Both car accidents.
18:58Literally, one of the first things I said to lovely Christy and the kids,
19:02I'm like, you know, if this was going to happen,
19:04this was exactly the time for it to happen.
19:06Wow.
19:07Like, I, like.
19:08Find the positive.
19:08It's summer.
19:09You know what I mean?
19:10We, like, it didn't, I mean, I missed, I missed a show.
19:13I missed one show, right?
19:16Because, like, one of the accidents was, like, a real bad accident.
19:19Um, but, you know, with what was going on with the schedule and all these things, I didn't
19:24have to be at a class or kids didn't need to, they didn't need to be at school.
19:27It's summer.
19:28That's the way my brain works, which is annoying.
19:31But that's the way my brain works.
19:33Can't help it.
19:34It's not, you had my back.
19:35You were like, who did it?
19:37And I'd sit in the photos.
19:40I was just glad you weren't driving the car.
19:42Well, there it is, Will.
19:43Yeah.
19:43With what we do every day, I can't think of anybody in this room as not having good luck.
19:49It just doesn't, I can't think of it any other way.
19:52Like, this is.
19:52I could cry with that.
19:53That's how I truly feel about what we do here.
19:56There's people listening to us that, like, they don't like what they do every day.
20:02That's real stuff.
20:02And I feel for.
20:03You hear that, Stiney?
20:04Yeah.
20:05It's not in any of them?
20:07There's another way to look at this.
20:09Yeah.
20:10You ever see a movie called Metropolitan?
20:14Ooh.
20:14No.
20:15It's from back in the day.
20:16I don't think so.
20:16It was about these six New York kids that were just graduating high school into college.
20:22They were all wealthy.
20:23They were all, like, sons of prominent people.
20:26And they had a buddy who was, you know, middle class.
20:30He happened to be the middle class, you know, guy in the room.
20:33And they were all talking one day.
20:35And they said, what do you, you know, what do you guys want to do?
20:37What do you want to do?
20:37And the middle class guy goes, you know, I, you know, I just want to work with, you know,
20:43I want to work with the less fortunate.
20:45I want to, I want to give back.
20:46I want to work with people who don't, you know, have a lot.
20:49And they're looking at them and they're like, yeah, that's you.
20:52You are the less fortunate.
20:56So what are you doing?
20:57Like, so some people think they're less fortunate or they're, you know, they're doing well, but
21:02they're really the less fortunate.
21:03Maybe that's it.
21:04I don't want to.
21:04That was well said.
21:05I don't want to get all milk and cookie.
21:07This is a message I try to hammer home with the kids constantly.
21:11Because we live in a community where they look around and for instance, we talk about
21:17kids going off to college.
21:18There's a lot of kids in my community that can point to anywhere they want on the map
21:23and go anywhere they want.
21:25And mommy and daddy are right there with their a hundred K a year.
21:30No problem.
21:31Let's get your apartment all filled with new couches and all of that stuff.
21:37And I'm not one of those families.
21:39And so, but whenever I hear them do that little, like, down the street, they're going
21:45to go to a private school in New York.
21:47I'm always like, you're rich.
21:49Wow.
21:49You're rich too.
21:50I love that.
21:51Different levels to this, but just don't, I don't want to hear.
21:56I got it.
21:57Yeah.
21:57I don't want to hear about being poor.
21:59And you always do this when you talk about being hungry, like as hungry as I've ever been,
22:04like the hungriest I've ever been is about one 10th as hungry as somebody who's truly
22:10hungry.
22:10Yep.
22:11Whether it's somebody in Africa who actually doesn't have food or somebody here who is
22:15unhoused and it, you know, has to like fight to survive, to actually eat.
22:20And so I think about that whenever I, you know, think to myself, oh my God, I'm hungry.
22:25Whenever you're hungry.
22:26Right.
22:26It's like, okay, you're hungry, but you ate like a meal that you probably got in a restaurant
22:32like seven hours ago.
22:33And oh boy, you're really hungry.
22:34And so it's a little bit like what you're talking about.
22:38Perspective.
22:38You can do something about it when you're hungry.
22:40I can hear my dad saying, you don't know what hungry is.
22:44Wow, man.
22:45That'd be something my dad does.
22:46Before you go, Stiney, I want to answer a question that you threw out earlier about,
22:50hey, you know, hey, hey, hey.
22:52If the Niners go 10 and seven, is that good enough to make the playoffs?
22:56And so I did a quick dive in the NFC.
22:59And since they expanded to seven playoff teams, only one time did you need 10 or more wins
23:07to make the wild card.
23:09Oh, so nine often gets you there.
23:11In other words, 10 has never not made it.
23:14Right.
23:14I'm looking at six years.
23:15Green Bay had nine last year and got in.
23:17Nine, seven, and one, 11, and six, and then nine and eight, nine and eight, nine and eight,
23:22nine and eight.
23:22Interesting.
23:23That's the NFC.
23:24The AFC is a little bit different.
23:26Four of the six years you needed at least 10 wins.
23:29But in the NFC, the third wild card had fewer than 10 wins in five of the six.
23:34That's a good nugget.
23:36I appreciate that.
23:37And Brock playing tomorrow preseason.
23:38What's that, Brock?
23:39We got his game tomorrow.
23:41Valkyries tonight.
23:42I'm going.
23:43It's a big one.
23:4495.7, the game at 7 o'clock.
23:46Tune in.
23:47And Dibs are next.
23:48The 95.7, the game.
23:49Yeah.
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