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00:07hello welcome to gang's all here a little down today because starting running back
00:10brees hall went down with an injury at practice today and today is monday august 17th with a
00:15groin injury and we're here to discuss it with our jets beat writer brian costello
00:19uh coz what more can you say about the injury to brees hall is this serious
00:23do we not know the extent what did you see out there yeah i don't i don't know um how
00:31much more
00:31we know right now ryan aaron glenn said he didn't think it was serious but you know aaron glenn's
00:37not a doctor so he he's got to go for imaging uh the mri will probably tell the story more
00:42it was just basically a swing pass where it was shocking how open he was i remember my first
00:47thought was man the defense really blew this coverage because he was just wide open and he
00:52wasn't even running particularly hard because he was out in just open space um sort of in the flat
00:57area and then you just saw him kind of he almost like stumbled it looked like and um pulled up
01:06and
01:06then you could see him reaching for his right leg and then he went down on the ground and the
01:10trainers
01:10came over and they brought him over to the tent and they were working on him for a while in
01:14there
01:14and then he went inside so you know you could tell it was his groin right away that's where he
01:18was
01:18reaching for um so aaron glenn said groin strain and you know but there's varying degrees of that
01:24um so we'll see you know i would think ryan i'd be surprised if we see breeze hall during the
01:32preseason
01:32again i think we're what four weeks out from the season from yesterday so to me you know now now
01:40it's
01:40all about getting him ready for tennessee and and protecting him look uh i think it's it's
01:46i don't want to say it it's encouraging but it's it's you fear the worst when you see
01:51obviously your running back go down with an injury uh didn't seem like it was on contact either and
01:56you hear that yeah oh boy uh groin is obviously not as severe as a knee injury and a calf
02:03injury but
02:03it's still a running back who needs to use his legs yeah so it's going to take time to heal
02:07up uh
02:07and like you said we won't know more until we get the results from the mri and aaron glenn
02:12speaks on that because with the blow to breeze hall do they have enough still in the running back
02:17room and we saw braille and allen in the in the preseason game against the bucks breakout one for
02:23a touchdown uh yeah are they okay if they can get away without breeze hall at least for the first
02:28couple weeks if they had to yeah right now isaiah davis is hurt as well ryan he's he's been out
02:34for
02:35about a week so i think you know when is he going to be back as a question mark you'd
02:40you'd i think
02:41you'd feel okay if you had braylon allen and isaiah davis right now it's braylon allen canadian
02:47wadu is behind him and then some undrafted rookies after that so i think he'd be a little nervous going
02:54into the season with that but like i said four weeks away ryan i think there's still time unless
02:59it's a very serious groin injury where breeze should be back what you're concerned with is
03:04does does he re-injure it is it something that nags on him because those soft tissue injuries
03:09you got to let them heal and i think this is probably the best timing you could have um you
03:16know with four weeks to to come up with it and he can he should be able to just take
03:22it easy and and
03:23really the next two weeks are training camp and then there's a kind of a dead week where they only
03:28practice i think the jets are going to practice monday tuesday of that week uh and then the
03:33following week is game week and so they can kind of take it really easy with breeze hall right now
03:37until that week of the game and he can really just rest up and make sure he does not re
03:44-injure
03:44the the groin yeah look uh tough blow for breeze after signing an extension in the offseason
03:49obviously they were looking forward to having him in the starting roster uh and and like you said
03:54there's still time here to heal up um but it's something to keep it keep our eyes on as jets
04:00fans
04:00and for you guys obviously to see when he can make his way back to the lineup uh for the
04:05jets and i just
04:06think you know i want to see breeze at full potential right like we uh the the thing we've always
04:13talked
04:13about on especially on this show cause is like man breeze feels like they haven't unlocked him fully
04:18as a receiver they haven't given a full full gain it's like the offensive line has shown some signs
04:24of potential could this be the year that he shows back to that rookie flesh uh i just would hate
04:29to
04:29see you know like you said four weeks before the season starts that this could put a a damper at
04:34the
04:34start of of this season yeah and like i mean if you think about two years ago he was playing
04:40with a
04:40knee injury the end of the year he wasn't himself and then last year they shut him down i can't
04:44remember
04:45what it was last year that got him shut down at the last game of the season he didn't play
04:48i think
04:49that was you know partially to do with their record at that point but yeah i get what you're saying
04:54you'd like to see a full season of the real breeze hall um in a good offense and it feels
05:01like there's
05:01potential for that this year so he i there's two guys on this offense that you go man they just
05:08can't
05:08lose those guys and we all know who they are and they weren't they weren't on the field today
05:13uh because garrett was throwing up uh he had his head in the toilet somewhere so he garrett wasn't
05:18out there and then breeze wasn't out there and the jets look like a much different team
05:23when number 20 and number five aren't in the game and so uh that's i think the worst nightmare for
05:29iron glenn and jets fans so it looks like but all things being told we didn't know why garrett wasn't
05:34out there so that he was just sick not a big deal breeze you know i think they have their
05:39fingers
05:39crossed that it's not a big deal right now and look i'll say this again to all you jets fans
05:42out
05:43there and and thank you as always for watching and listening to gangs all here uh if what glenn
05:48says he's not concerned but we'll see we'll see what the results of the mri are coaches if one thing
05:55if you pay attention ryan coaches are never concerned unless the guy like really just suffered a season
06:00ending injury there they always come in oh yeah he's fine and then it ends up being weeks i remember
06:04he told us d'angelo ponds wasn't a big deal the first day of training camp and here we are
06:09we still
06:09haven't seen d'angelo ponds so for whatever reason coaches downplay coaches don't think about
06:15the severity whatever they i don't always trust coaches when they say it's not a big deal we'll
06:19certainly see that means it's not season ending usually that's all that means well speaking of
06:24offense and injuries uh surprise you know friday night geno smith was touted to ready to rock and
06:31roll is to get that started in the preseason game uh and then we get the word that he's dealing
06:35with
06:35a foot injury but then today he's out there in the practice field with a wrap on his left calf
06:41it looked like uh i don't know it's actually an ankle it's actually an ankle injury ryan okay i think
06:46it was i think it was initially reported his foot but i'm glad after the game said it was ankle
06:50uh so it's it's an ankle injury so is there concern for geno like i heard that i saw tweets
06:57obviously
06:57that he was limping out there a little bit like threw another pick uh you tell me cause like
07:04well i will say in geno's defense that the the pick i don't think i agree with his ankle right
07:10we've seen geno throw picks when he's 100 healthy i don't mean that as a knock on geno but i
07:15don't
07:15think we can say it was the ankle i was a little surprised to practice today ryan because today was
07:19a lighter practice it was pretty quick it was probably about an hour and a half a little bit
07:24more tomorrow aaron glenn is gonna put them through a long practice um so like that's today you
07:29saw minka and demario didn't practice today i think that was with that in mind is tomorrow feels
07:34like it's a big day for them um they're gonna get a lot of work in so i thought maybe
07:38rest geno today
07:40and then put him out there tomorrow for the the what feels like to me a more important practice but
07:46he must you know he must have cleared all the tests for them to put him out there and yeah
07:49he had
07:50a small like sleeve i would call it on his left leg at the lower leg um but yeah any
07:56limping is
07:58probably strong i could tell he was kind of favoring the leg a little bit uh you could see
08:03sometimes he just wasn't moving that much but um you know a quarterback honestly in training camp
08:10practice can can be pretty statue statue-esque if they want to back there they don't have to run
08:15they're not getting hit so i think it'll be interesting to see now how the week progresses
08:21and does he play in pittsburgh on friday night well would you think they would actually take that risk
08:26to further that injury if it like you said it's an ankle injury like he's got to get work right
08:31like
08:31he's got to get working and so you know i was in my mind i always thought they were gonna
08:35play the
08:36stars in the first two games and not the third game because that's what aaron glenn did last year
08:39um so i i would think that's the plan and he said last week you know he'd like to get
08:4525 to 30 snaps
08:46for the starters so now gino got none in the first game and so yeah i think i think you'd
08:53want to get
08:54him out there for a few series friday night if he's medically cleared um you know really with the ankle
09:01i don't think you worry about him getting hit so much it's just can he kind of keep making it
09:05worse
09:06if he turns it again and uh you know i think they said it wasn't sprained it was just sore
09:14so i don't
09:15think they're that worried about it but yeah i i would think he'd play friday night ryan if he's
09:19medically cleared wow that's interesting cause just because uh you know like look i i saw what
09:23happened to jackson dart on saturday i know a lot of giants fans are holding their breath when he takes
09:27a big hit like that uh at ankles different from getting hit up top but again it also takes is
09:32one
09:32player to roll up on him and it does but it's football man no i know i know but i
09:37don't know
09:38i mean this is the pre this is always the preseason debate and i feel like the pendulum has kind
09:42of
09:42swung back to where more guys are playing in the preseason now than maybe three four years ago it
09:46felt like nobody was playing they went to that extreme i don't think you play them four quarters
09:52anymore or anything like that but i do think guys need to get out there um and play some close
09:58to as
09:58close as you can get to real football and have the prospect of getting tackled and getting hit and
10:03having your body get calloused and get get used to that uh i think there's something to that for sure
10:09um so i didn't see and gino's in a new offense i think he needs he needs he can use
10:15some time with
10:16frank reich in a game situation and getting the call on his helmet and going through that kind of
10:20stuff before it's live bullets in tennessee look i agree with you i i am all for these guys playing
10:26and getting more reps in against in the preseason because that's more live but i will say this
10:31aaron glenn i don't know if he's if you're it's worth the risk right of hey we need to get
10:38the
10:38experience for these guys to i could be one hit away from starting kate club nick in week one against
10:44the titans a kid that was not thought of to be counted on right away and speaking and speaking of
10:50which club nick did not play much on friday night uh and i'm curious your thoughts cause
10:56why glenn and and frank reich did not give him as much reps in the first preseason game
11:03yeah it was a little curious right i think maybe you know maybe they were worried about gino's ankle
11:08and thinking okay this guy might have to be the starter for a little while here uh let's not put
11:13him out like i think he got the starters reps basically i think they were i think probably the
11:17plan was for one or two series probably one series with gino uh they left club again for a second
11:23series with the backups um he got 16 reps and that's kind of the starter reps i think he was
11:30just i think they they might have had that in mind is what you know we might need this guy
11:34right now
11:34maybe they weren't sure at that point of how serious the gino injury was but yeah you'd like
11:39to see him play a little bit more um i thought what he did was impressive i think the kid
11:43has tremendous
11:44poise i i thought handling that situation where you find out the day before you're starting and you're
11:49playing with guys you've never played with good point because he gets no reps with those guys
11:53oh yeah like he gets no reps with the starters like i've never seen him take a snap from josh
11:56myers
11:57i've never seen him throw a pass to garrett wilson like never like gino gets all the first team reps
12:03so uh he went out there and he had poise he just it didn't look too big for him right
12:08like he can't
12:08get it carried away he went five of seven in a preseason game against backups but i just thought
12:13he looked comfortable and and he's got when you talk to him and you guys see the press conferences
12:19he's got something to him like he's he he's obviously was the number one player in the country
12:26coming out of high school played at a big school in texas won three state championships in texas was
12:30under the hot spotlight at clemson went to the college football playoffs went to acc championship games
12:36like this guy's played in some big games this isn't you know somebody who's going to be
12:41i think phased by what comes with playing in new york and all that stuff so i was intrigued by
12:47what
12:47i saw i know don't get me wrong i don't think he's ready to play right now but i do
12:51think i i would
12:53feel okay with him being the backup going into the season wow okay that that sounds like a little bit
12:57of a different tune just because obviously you hadn't seen him up close right and now you're
13:01actually seeing him in practice or joint practice it's really the poise it's the poise ryan and i also
13:06think here's the other part i think about like talking about the reps and stuff i think they need
13:12to see kate klubnik in practice every day running the scout team and if you bring in a veteran the
13:17veterans gonna run the scout team and then klubnik gets minimal reps all season so like we're only
13:22going to see what happens in games like we don't get to watch practice during the season so if he
13:27doesn't play in a game we'll never we won't know how kate klubnik is progressing but the coaches
13:32they can see it if he's on the scout team out there every day and i think those are valuable
13:36reps and i would want him to get those now that being said right let me couch this sure if
13:41if gino
13:42got hurt week one like an aaron rogers situation i would go out and get a veteran because i don't
13:46think i'd want kate klubnik starting 16 games for me this season but if gino sprains an ankle in week
13:52four and kate klubnik has to play two games i think he could do that you know i i don't
13:57think that's
13:57that's that's crazy yeah look i i hear you completely on what you're saying if it was
14:02like a week one or two but then part of me also wonders like again this is the jet fan
14:08in us right
14:09causes well if gino goes down kate klubnik let's just see what we have in him and we all know
14:16what
14:162027 draft is hold in front of us so it's like if we don't win games not the end of
14:22the world i
14:22understand that from a fair i understand from the fan from the fan perspective from the fan perspective
14:26now pretend you're the head coach right no yeah the head coach isn't worrying about the 2027 draft
14:30right like he's he's got to win games and so he's gonna have to you know if i think he
14:36would definitely
14:36want to go out and get a veteran quarterback if if it's staring at 16 games without gino but you
14:41know
14:41that's a worst case scenario situation but i do think i would feel okay with klubnik going into the
14:47year as the backup look i'm i'm excited to see him play more in the preseason i want to see
14:51him
14:52obviously get more reps against pittsburgh and i and hopefully they do give him more chances there
14:55uh but we're gonna keep our eyes on on you cause and your twitter for what the heck's going on
15:00with
15:00breece hall and geno smith uh if geno ends up playing this week uh you know and if that ankle
15:05is okay and then hopefully we're gonna die a real diagnosis yeah a lot of a lot of fantasy football
15:11implications here ryan that always lights up my twitter account when it's when it's when it's not
15:17an offensive lineman but it's a fantasy football player yeah that there tends to be a little more
15:22interest i've noticed as it as it is it's that time of year uh real real quick before i let
15:27you
15:27go to vandre sweat activated off nfi list yesterday i practiced today uh yeah four weeks to get ready
15:33for the season theoretically if there's no setbacks he should be ready to rock and roll for week one
15:39right oh yeah yeah no i don't think there's any question and joseph aside to practice today so
15:43two of the guys they went out and got little team as a line this offseason we're out there so
15:47it's a good sign you know i think in my mind sweat had to be back like next week for
15:52you to feel good
15:53like that was enough time like he's so i i think you have enough time for him to get in
15:57shape get
15:58football football shape and all that stuff uh they kind of held him back a little bit today i obviously
16:03they're easing him in but i think i think no i think you have to feel good that he's back
16:08out in the
16:08field and aside there's really now you know um kenny and sadik and d'angelo pons
16:15you want to see them back out there but and then obviously we talked about breeze a lot but the
16:19overall um they're getting healthier uh with those guys out there healthy some injuries but it's part
16:27of football like kaza uh doing this for a while now you've seen it all like it just happens when
16:32guys come back other guys go down it's the cycle of sports and football and that's how it goes
16:38rex right he's to say there's a hundred percent injury rate always his line it's not a bad one
16:43cause we appreciate you we're looking forward to your coverage and we'll catch up with you next
16:47time man all right thanks
16:49you
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