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00:00The 25 days of deadline, miss, starts today.
00:05Buyer, seller, both.
00:07Which camp are you in?
00:09248-539-9797.
00:11Scooble says, go for it.
00:13Add.
00:14Don't be sellers.
00:15As we stand today, they are still a team most likely to miss the postseason.
00:21Yes.
00:21They're not in right now.
00:22They have a 32% chance to make it per fan graphs.
00:26They are on fire right now.
00:27They're on a 100-win pace since June 1st.
00:32I don't think this is who they really are, just like I don't think May is who they really are.
00:36So who are they?
00:37And if you don't know, if you don't feel you're a World Series team, you trade Scooble.
00:42And if you make the playoffs on the back of this rotation anyway, awesome.
00:47Could things change in the next three weeks?
00:50Of course.
00:51Yeah.
00:52Of course.
00:52If this team doesn't lose another game and they're in first place and they want to add,
00:55not that they need my blessing, but they'd have it.
00:58You're going to go for it.
01:00Same thing.
01:01If they lose today, swept by the Phillies, I think everyone's in the same camp.
01:07Yeah.
01:07There's one camp and it's team sell.
01:09Exactly.
01:10Where are you as we kick off the 25 days of deadline?
01:13Miss 248-539-9797.
01:15And when I say that I'm both, it's not the old cliche, old bit fence riding me.
01:22I just think it'd be very creative and it'd be awesome if they could do that.
01:26And it would take some work, but it can be done.
01:30Your both is, I'm trading Scooble, I still have a damn good rotation, and I'm getting back
01:34multi-year pieces, and I can still buy an ad where this team is weak.
01:39Correct.
01:39Now, the critics will say, why buy if you're not in the hunt?
01:45No, but they'd be in the hunt.
01:46That's the only way they can do it.
01:47Right.
01:48But if you're trading Scooble, you're kind of waving the white flag to some.
01:52But the pieces you're getting back wouldn't be rentals.
01:55Correct.
01:55That would be the key.
01:56It would actually be subscribing to this Scott Harris idea of chip in a chair.
02:00Like, get in and see what happens for multiple seasons.
02:03We can't let Scooble and the return for Scooble go by the wayside if we want to be a team
02:09that's competing year over year over year.
02:132-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
02:15Let's get to Dan in Ypsilanti.
02:17Dan, good morning.
02:18Yo, my biggest fear is that these dopes are going to talk themselves into thinking that
02:24they've got a chance to go all the way with the team that they have and not do anything
02:29and set the franchise back years the way the Angels did with Otani instead of getting Caminero
02:35from Tampa.
02:37Yeah, they're kicking themselves out in Anaheim.
02:41Was that deal actually presented?
02:45Yeah, that's the reporting this year is that they had a chance to get Caminero for Otani.
02:49I think there were other pieces, too.
02:50And, you know, I think he's hit, what, 20 home runs this week?
02:53And now the Angels are our last place team.
02:56Yeah, now, if I remember, too, the Angels, were they even in playoff contention with Otani?
03:00No.
03:01No, they weren't.
03:02I don't believe they were.
03:03No.
03:03So it makes it even more puzzling.
03:05Yeah.
03:06The Tigers in playoff contention today?
03:08No, no, I don't think so.
03:10Not yet.
03:10They'd have to keep winning.
03:11No, they still have a while to go.
03:14Dan, does it change at all if they rattle off seven of the next ten?
03:17Or if they truly get themselves back to 500?
03:21No, it's fool's gold.
03:22No World Series team can win with Matt Bierling leading off the baseball game.
03:26Well, hopefully that would change at the deadline.
03:28But, Dan, it sounds like you're with me.
03:30If they were keeping Scoobl, you upgrade the right-handed bat so that you don't have Matt
03:34Bierling leading off.
03:35Correct.
03:35And now you can start to build a case.
03:38I mean, we've needed a right-handed bat for three off-seasons?
03:42Buddy, I know it.
03:43Two off-seasons?
03:43Yeah, I know.
03:44And I know it, and they probably won't do it.
03:46You're right.
03:46The most likely outcome would be they don't add, because they didn't add last year when
03:50they were in a much better position.
03:51Don't worry.
03:52Torres will be back soon.
03:55Right.
03:56Like Torres, nothing against Torres.
03:58I know.
03:58But work backwards.
04:00We have how we think the world should be, and then there's how the world actually is.
04:03If Scott Harris told you, I'm not making some big buy move regardless.
04:07I understand.
04:08But then that reinforces what you must do with Tarek Scoobl.
04:11Absolutely.
04:11Yeah.
04:12And I would understand that thinking.
04:14Yeah.
04:14But you could...
04:14He's like, I'm not adding a right-handed bat.
04:16You guys in the media are a bunch of dopes and doofuses.
04:19Right.
04:19We don't need a right-handed bat.
04:20That might be the position of the organization.
04:22That's how they've conducted free agency and trade deadlines in years past.
04:25If they are...
04:26We like Hia Uli and Matt Veerling and our platoon approach and Jemai Jones, and we're cool with
04:31our right-handed bats.
04:32If that is truly the organization's belief, and maybe they feel even stronger about it
04:35with more wins, if they're not going to add a right-handed bat, trade Scoobl.
04:41Yeah.
04:41You're not chasing a World Series.
04:42You got Max Anderson's playing in the Futures game.
04:46I saw that, Stoney.
04:47You got to...
04:48Like, Stoney is right about Torres in terms of, okay, look at last night's game.
04:51If Torres is playing, he's hitting high, and Veerling's hitting down where Jones is hitting.
04:56Right.
04:56You got to get Jemai Jones out of here if you're going to take this serious.
04:59I know.
04:59You just have to.
05:00He's hitting 137.
05:01Did he have a hit yesterday?
05:03No.
05:03No.
05:04And he's hitting...
05:05Veerling leading off at 0 for 5.
05:08What's he doing leading off?
05:10I know.
05:10It's like...
05:11I mean, I might end up getting Gibby to call us here to keep bad-mouthing Veerling.
05:15Veerling, that's Gibby's boy.
05:17Look, nothing against Matt Veerling, though, being on this team.
05:21You need guys like that, but you don't need them leading off.
05:24If he was your 25th or 26th man, hey, great.
05:27Play a couple positions.
05:27He can hit lefties okay.
05:30I'm not leading him off, but yeah, he can hit lefties okay.
05:33Text coming in.
05:34Guys, it sounds like Scuba wants to stay in Detroit and win.
05:36Harris just needs to pay him.
05:38Well, first of all, I don't buy that for a second.
05:42Unless I'm wrong, I think he employs an agent by the name of Scott Boris, who historically,
05:49there are exceptions, will take his clients to free agency.
05:53There's no negotiating taking place on either side.
05:55We've not heard a credible offer from the Tigers, and their thought process could be
05:59they're not going to listen to a credible offer.
06:02They're going to use it as the starting point for free agency, so we're not going to play
06:04their reindeer games.
06:06Feels like we're headed for a divorce.
06:09Yes.
06:09Let's get to Ed in Dearborn.
06:11Ed, good morning.
06:12Hey, guys.
06:13I'm just thinking about the upcoming lockout, and we're hearing that they want a cat-free
06:19agency at six years.
06:21So after Scuba's comments, wouldn't Scott Harris go ahead and come out and just offer him
06:2850 at six years?
06:31Especially after the comment he made yesterday.
06:34He says, no, you save face, and you still have Jackson Joe coming back.
06:39He can go ahead and take a spot in rotation if you trade him, and you can leave Montero
06:44in the bullpen.
06:45Scott Harris is sitting in a great spot.
06:47I do wonder if they will offer him something and leak it publicly to save face when this
06:53is all done.
06:54But you said that the deals will get capped at six years on a new CBA.
06:58Potentially.
06:58If that's agreed to.
06:59And the other key factor here for Scott Boris and Scuba is that you could sign a deal before
07:04the new CBA to get grandfathered in, and I think that's what they're going to angle
07:07for, is try to get a longer-term deal before the new CBA.
07:12Yeah, but who's...
07:13Scott Harris looks like a...
07:15Or excuse me, Boris looks like a fool if they go to the lockout, and he ends up with
07:23less than that.
07:24I also don't think the players are going to okay sign off on limiting the number of years
07:29a free agent can sign for, especially given the restraints early in your career.
07:33You have to have six years service time to even hit free agency.
07:36Well, they're going to have to give up something if the owners are going to still agree to them
07:41and have no salary cap.
07:44But the players, famously, they want to be able to hit true free agency and make as much
07:50money as possible.
07:51Yeah.
07:53And this is one of the few players associations that digs in and delivers for its members.
07:59But in saying that, if they're going to cap free agency for a six-year contract, right,
08:07it means you have less time to get to your next contract.
08:10So it's not the end of the world for some of these players.
08:12No, but typically a player doesn't hit free agency until they're in their late 20s on the
08:18edge of 30.
08:18You sign a six-year deal, your next deal is not going to be lucrative.
08:21You got one real deal.
08:23Yeah, probably.
08:24Let's get to Edgar in Detroit.
08:26Edgar, good to hear from you.
08:27Good morning.
08:28Good morning.
08:38I think it's all coming down to the Benjamins.
08:47Yes, sir.
08:49You know, that's just kind of how the world is.
08:51It's kind of how his situation appears to us on the outside.
08:54I don't think them adding is going to make him take a pay cut.
08:58No.
08:58When it comes to free agency.
09:00No, not at all.
09:01I think he's just speaking as a guy who goes to the clubhouse every day and wants to win.
09:04Wants to win a world.
09:05He wants to win a championship.
09:06I don't blame him for that.
09:07And Scott Harris, though, can't get suckered into.
09:10No.
09:10Especially from a guy who's only going to be here for a season.
09:12Scott's going to be here beyond this year.
09:14He has to think big picture.
09:15It would be nice if publicly Scott Harris or somebody would say, hey, Tarek, here's the deal.
09:20Yeah, we'll buy.
09:21Sign on the dotted line here.
09:23I mean, that's, you know.
09:26Sure.
09:26We'll be committed if you're committed.
09:28Right.
09:28Till death do us part.
09:29Sign here.
09:30Yeah.
09:30And then Scoob will say, well, I really don't care about what happens after this year.
09:34Well, then I'm not going to trade key pieces for a team that's not a serious World Series contender.
09:40I was talking to a buddy yesterday.
09:41He goes, what do you mean?
09:42If the Tigers get in the playoffs with this rotation, right?
09:45And we've gotten some of those texts and those calls, right?
09:47Imagine lining this up.
09:48I've got Scoob, I've got future Ace Melton, I've got Mize, who's pitching like a number
09:53one overall pick.
09:54Finally, still got Valdez, still got Valdez.
09:57I don't know if they'd push him back because of the salary, but you start to build this playoff
10:01rotation that could be formidable, right?
10:03Job coming back, maybe.
10:04But I had to tell the guy, I go, well, the Yankees are better than us, right?
10:07Yeah.
10:07He's like, oh, I don't know.
10:08And I go, hold on.
10:11Their lineup's certainly better than us when healthy with Judge, but even their rotation.
10:15Oh, yeah.
10:15Schlittler's been AL Cy Young good this year.
10:18Right.
10:18Max Freed, they've got to get him right.
10:20Cole.
10:21As Garrett Cole settles in and Rodon's got a 3-3 ERA, my point is they'd have three or
10:25four arms that they could stack up with us.
10:27Yes.
10:27The Red Sox, who, by the way, are in a similar position to the Tigers right now, they've got
10:32four arms with an ERA 3-5 or less.
10:34Is Crochet still hurt or is he back?
10:36I think he might be hurt.
10:37I'm not even counting him.
10:39The Mariners have a really good rotation.
10:41The idea that the Tigers would be the only team to make the playoffs with a good rotation,
10:45those teams would also have formidable rotations and real lineups.
10:50They're not a world's...
10:52Their chances of winning the World Series are like 2% right now.
10:55Yeah.
10:55So you can talk yourself into this being fun and changing the conversation, but don't
11:01get too carried away and don't do something silly like keep Scooble for maybe playoffs
11:07and then he's gone and you had a chance to really put a shot in the arm in the organization.
11:12Can't do that.
11:13Cannot do that.
11:14That's why I think that Scott Harris seems to be able to...
11:17One of those guys who likes developing players and all that.
11:20That's why I think he's going to trade him.
11:22100% sell.
11:23Why is Scooble even on this team still?
11:26Bob and Traverse City.
11:27Buy and sign Scooble.
11:32But that's...
11:32Yeah, that's a pipe dream, I think.
11:34Scooble says be a buyer.
11:36Sure, make the first move and sign a contract.
11:38I'll wait.
11:38He's a joke.
11:41Scooble saying let's add is the ultimate gaslighting.
11:44Rob in the 3-2-1.
11:47We got a mixed opinion.
11:48This guy says buy, buy, buy.
11:50Said this at the end of May.
11:51I'm not trading Scooble.
11:52Make a run while we've got him.
11:55Then if Scooble leaves in free agency, so be it.
11:57F them prospects.
11:58Well, you can't just let him go for nothing.
12:03For a compensatory pick.
12:05You could if you were a legit World Series team.
12:08Yeah.
12:10They're not.
12:11And are they willing to buy at the...
12:13Can you even buy at the deadline enough to be a World Series team?
12:15And are they willing to do that?
12:16We've known they've been hesitant even a year ago when they were in a much better position.
12:20Anyway, conversation is going to keep going.
12:22We do have the two grand slam at 725.
12:25A chance to win some money.
12:26Dear Stoney.
12:28Ooh.
12:29Dear Stoney.
12:29And I have a million sheets of paper here.
12:31You're going to be asked about the French Fry Bandit, a cheater, soccer fever, and eating out.
12:39It's 97-1.
12:41Hey.
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