00:00Okay, so we're going to continue the trend of Rico wanting to talk about things
00:04that are offensive to me.
00:07No, I know we got to do this.
00:08It's fine.
00:10So all the reporting over the last few days, the Scooble stuff.
00:16What do you want me to say?
00:17I've been telling you guys for damn near three months to not trade this guy.
00:21What they should do and what they will do are not the same conversation.
00:25Okay.
00:26Oh, they took two out of three from the Angels.
00:28The Angels are garbage.
00:30Fine.
00:31We just talked about this.
00:33You asked me a question.
00:34You think the Boston Red Sox are making a play?
00:36It's my answer without hesitation.
00:37No.
00:38No, you said no.
00:39I thought you were going to say yes.
00:40No, they're 50 and 48.
00:41They've won 14 in a row to dig out of the hole they were in, in a tougher division.
00:48How could I possibly sit here right now and say with any confidence, yes,
00:55the Tigers are going to make the playoffs?
00:56Based on what?
00:5824 and 14 over a 38-game rip.
01:01Fine.
01:02Go 24 and 14 over the next 38.
01:05You're three over.
01:06You think you're making it?
01:08This is still the same team that was down 1-0 with two outs and a bottom of the night.
01:13What do you want from me?
01:15Do whatever the hell you people want to do with this team.
01:19I would trade Scooble.
01:21End.
01:21And if you're not going to extend Mize, I'd trade him two.
01:24One problem.
01:25He just blew out again.
01:27This groin problem's a problem.
01:29They're not worried about the wrist.
01:31They're worried about the groin issue.
01:33Right.
01:33So I just, Rico, this is what it centers on to me.
01:38And again, I think these are different conversations.
01:41If your stated goal as a fan is make the playoffs, cool.
01:51I'm in a different booth at the restaurant.
01:53Mine is win the World Series.
01:55Do I believe this team will win the World Series?
01:57No, I do not.
02:00Ergo, I don't want any of the meal you're serving.
02:02But if you just say, look, I'm willing to deal with whatever repercussions there are.
02:08Risk it, biscuit.
02:09Get into the playoffs.
02:10And I'm cool.
02:12That's fine.
02:13I don't have to order off the, I don't have to order the same thing you did off the menu.
02:17But it's like we, we, it becomes convoluted.
02:23This was always about winning the World Series this year.
02:26I do not think they're a World Series team.
02:29So there's nothing else for me to say.
02:30But I want to know for people what they need in order to be able to live with the Scooble
02:37decision.
02:37For me, it's World Series.
02:41Therefore, I'm not doing it.
02:42Winning the World Series is just getting there.
02:44Getting there.
02:45And you're not getting there.
02:46I don't believe you're a World Series team.
02:49I think your issues of the past are still here.
02:52And unless Scott Harris did seismic things at the deadline, including probably two high-leverage relievers and two right-handed
03:01bats, including one heavy middle-of-the-order type, then I don't know what to say.
03:05And before you bring up Glaber F. and Torres, he ain't ever going to do what Ha-Yu Lee's done
03:10in this voodoo phase.
03:12Ha-Yu Lee's got like 1,000 OPS.
03:15You can just stop right there.
03:17Man can go 0 for 4.
03:18And then in that final at-bat, here's a double.
03:22Here's a home run.
03:23My whole point is, Scott Harris will have to do things at the deadline that he has shown no pedigree
03:28to do.
03:29He wouldn't do it last year when you were a World Series caliber team.
03:33See, I wonder what they're going to do and how much that has changed now with the potential Mize news.
03:40We don't know how long he's going to be out.
03:44But now, does that just automatically say, well, we can't get rid of school bull if we're going to try
03:48to go for it?
03:50Do you go for another starting pitcher in case he's not going to be there?
03:56Your pitching's fine.
03:57Rico, look, this is about the fans.
04:00I'd prefer if you didn't speak to me.
04:02I'd prefer if you didn't look at me, quite honestly.
04:04And just talk to your people.
04:06This is me and her fault.
04:06I just talk to your people.
04:08And I don't mean the founders.
04:09I'm hurting.
04:10You need to talk to your audience because I am.
04:14Mike's going to take you to six.
04:15No, I'm done with this.
04:16I can't state it any other way.
04:20And it's like every time these national reporters put these scoobo think tank trade things out there, it's like, are
04:27you not paying attention?
04:30No, but it's when you go out there and you take a series from the Angels.
04:35Now it's, well, you know, you're only six and a half games back.
04:40And it's like, okay, but take a look at the teams in between you and where you need to go.
04:44I think the funniest part is Minnesota has every right to feel maybe we should go for it.
04:49They're not.
04:49They're selling.
04:50They're going to trade Joe Ryan.
04:53Again, if I'm not willing to talk about the Red Sox making the playoffs at 50 and 48, I just
04:58don't do what this goofball town does.
05:00Well, we're only six and a half.
05:01Like, I love it's never about the team being good.
05:04It's about everyone else being bad.
05:06Think about that when you say it.
05:08Right.
05:08Do I think the Tigers are some good baseball team?
05:11No, I do not.
05:13On July 20th, being seven games under 500, your grand run over 38 games is 24 and 14.
05:20And then when you look at the anatomy of that run, yeah, I'm sorry, but like, wow, cool.
05:26Pummeled the A's.
05:29You beat a dead Yankee team who was in the midst of a one and nine skid with no healthy
05:33players.
05:33Cool.
05:34What do you want me to say?
05:35Right.
05:35And it was just funny because you saw the difference in the wildcard standing one game like on Saturday when
05:41you win.
05:42I think it was only four teams away there and then you lose a game and now you're 16.
05:47That'll be the rest of the year.
05:48Primarily.
05:49I don't think anyone's going to run away and I don't think you're going to put together something.
05:52Look, before the dead, this is the other reason I think they're keeping it.
05:55They're going to get seduced by beating on brain dead teams.
05:58You're going to play the Royals who are 20 some odd games under 500.
06:01Oh, you're not going to beat that?
06:02Of course you're going to beat them.
06:03They're terrible.
06:04They ain't got nothing to do in the World Series.
06:05You're going to play the A's again.
06:08And go ahead.
06:09Get all fat on empty calories.
06:11Do whatever you want.
06:12Make a five-year decision over a five-game run.
06:16Do it.
06:17Well, no, and to put things in perspective of what you just said, Mike, when you play
06:21the Royals and you play the A's again, you just finished playing the Angels.
06:25You just played the three teams below you for the wild card.
06:28So why do I care?
06:29So technically, they're in the wild card standings too.
06:33And oh, by the way, here's the other part.
06:35Okay.
06:37Scooble coming back, it's not like you're winning every start.
06:39He pitched very well.
06:40He also, by the way, that guy should just sign with the Angels.
06:43He's got like a 0.5 ERA lifetime in that park.
06:47It's unbelievable.
06:48The whole problem I have in this, when you look at this wild card thing and you look
06:55at the American League, but look at your division, right?
06:59So you've had the White Sox down the rookie of the year in Mirakami, who is the centerpiece
07:04of their offense.
07:05And you've had the Guardians down J-Ram.
07:08And you're still six and a half out.
07:12Now, like Mirakami's back and J-Ram's coming back.
07:17You didn't, you just didn't do enough.
07:19So it's July 20th.
07:21Why would I make a five-year decision over a two-week sample size, a three-week sample
07:26size?
07:27I'm not doing it.
07:28Now, here's the key.
07:30Unless my goal isn't the World Series.
07:33If the goal is making the playoffs because that's what they want to do, go ahead.
07:39And by the way, I've said this to you, Tigers are the smartest team in the league.
07:44Just ask them.
07:45They're probably the one team that would be boned up about a comp pick versus a bidding
07:51war, high-level executive work, high-level negotiating, high-level poker that so far Scott
07:57Harris has shown no willingness or ability to do.
08:01Well, of course, the easier out is, well, we got McGonagall.
08:05Right.
08:05So every comp pick is going to turn into Aaron Judge.
08:08Right?
08:08Wrong.
08:09But the point is, that's the easier way.
08:11You sell hope.
08:12You don't have an angry fan base.
08:13You keep getting people's money.
08:15And you stay relevant.
08:17And you made the playoffs.
08:18And then they look at you like, well, how can you complain?
08:21We've made it three years in a row.
08:22Wait, you mean every six-round quarterback draft is not a Hall of Fame?
08:27I'm just telling you how it'll be reported, because this town has its head so far up its
08:33ass when it comes to baseball, it's laughable.
08:36Because I'm not sure the World Series is the stated goal for fans here.
08:40Therefore, the organization gets to do things a different way.
08:44And Scott Harris has said publicly, my job is to get this team in the tournament as many
08:49times as possible.
08:50That's the best chance to win it.
08:52Not really.
08:53Your best chance is when you're in first place to get off the toilet and make some
08:57effing trades.
08:58That would have been the best case.
09:00Instead, you had on dry ice, Charlie Morton, Paul Seawald, and Estelle Getty.
09:06That was your best chance.
09:08And then the team debt spiraled.
09:09And you still had the gall to put on ski goggles and celebrate.
09:15You'll never let that one go.
09:16No, I won't.
09:17I thought it was beyond laughable.
09:19I remember I said, they're going to do that.
09:21No, they won't.
09:22You know where that team should have been?
09:23Church.
09:24I'm like, praying to the statue.
09:27You know they're going to celebrate.
09:28They wouldn't dare.
09:29They're going to celebrate.
09:30Oh, I thought that was unbelievable to me.
09:34Here's the ski goggles.
09:35Here's the champagne.
09:36Let's get the TV crews in here.
09:38Let's have fun.
09:39Get a publisher's clearinghouse check that says we blew a 15 and a half game lead and
09:42didn't win the division.
09:44Hit the kazoo.
09:45Nope.
09:47So, I want you to talk to the people.
09:49I've said my piece.
09:50You want to keep them?
09:51Doesn't make you a bad fan.
09:51Keep them.
09:53But I'm also not going to yell about trading them.
09:56But the one thing I ain't going to do is sit here and, you know, get all, chew it, and
10:04do it.
10:04If you're three games under at the deadline.
10:07Because of what?
10:08Because you beat St. Leo's homeless shelter in the lead up?
10:11I don't care.
10:12Yeah, I would say if you're going to keep him, how far do they need to go to justify keeping
10:17him?
10:17Win every game between now and the deadline.
10:19I don't know.
10:19I don't care.
10:20Do whatever you want.
10:212-4-8-5-3-9-9-9-9-6.
10:23Let me know how it works out.
10:24Warm weather.
10:25I just recall.
10:26It's just, you got to win the World Series for it to make sense.
10:29Otherwise, I think you're hurting the organization.
10:31That's the point.
