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Is there any scenario the Tigers don't trade Tarik Skubal?
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00:02scoobal's back he'll pitch this weekend against the cleveland guardians
00:08he rejoins the tigers team that is 11 games below 500 but the team's off to a hot start in
00:15june
00:16so john the question is will they win enough to justify keeping him or do you want them to
00:22trade him no matter what i ask you we ask our listeners put on your scott harris hat
00:30will they win enough to justify keeping him and do you want them to trade him no matter what
00:36so the only way and and you can't see into the future so the only way that i would say
00:44keep him
00:45is if you get to the trade deadline august the 3rd and you are playing so good that you are
00:53known as
00:54and it is a a collective of people not just here in the city of detroit or in the state
01:02of michigan
01:03but it is nationally recognized that the detroit tigers are one of the best teams in the american
01:11league meaning if you look into the future and you say well the last two years i mean look into
01:18the
01:18past you you were a wild card team and you won that wild card round and you got to the
01:24division
01:25round where you were ousted both of those two years and i'm not just saying hey you got to get
01:31to the
01:31alcs no you need to be one of the favorites to make it to the world series not to win
01:37the world series
01:38but to have a seat at the table and if that's the case now you can't account for injuries we
01:43already
01:43know that we've we've been victim of that if you could be a victim of that um but if as
01:52the roster
01:52stands the bats are on fire you're rocking and rolling the pitching staff is as we thought it would be
02:00and on top of that you add at the deadline and you're making a push to be the world series
02:10representative of the american league that's the only scenario where you keep terek skuble
02:16which feels like a long shot from where we sit today yeah even though hey they've won seven games
02:23here in june it's seven games in june we did have may and we did have april yeah
02:31the question should they keep skuble you have to answer that with a different question
02:37will they buy at the deadline and if the answer is no then you're not keeping skuble
02:43i think it's as simple as that if you say we're buying you keep them if you don't buy you
02:50wave bye
02:52that's the story because you can get something for him buster only has said this is the best pitcher
02:59available as a rental since cc sabathia actually i think he might have said since tom siever in the 70s
03:06or cc sabathia that there will be a bidding war for a team that wants to win the world series
03:12before
03:13the impending lockout if you're not one of those teams you trade derrick skuble and i think it's
03:20far-fetched to think this team's going to be buying so i mean they'd have to get incredibly hot
03:26convince themselves they're in it and then also buy on top of it yes that's how i view this 248
03:33-539-9797
03:35we ask you to be scott harris how do you see it how would you handle it and tom has
03:41brought up and
03:41he's the first person that brought it up but i think valeni may have echoed it is there a world
03:45where you can trade skuble and still maintain a competitive team that competes in the postseason
03:53sure i mean what have they done in june they've been competitive and they've done it without terrick
03:58skuble what would the rotation be now you really put a lot of onus on valdez
04:02the rotation if you trade skuble you have six or seven arms right now it would be valdez mys
04:09melton montero flarity flarity with jv is kind of a if you get something you get something yeah
04:18are you half wet you know like you don't want to be this in between like well we we sold
04:23but we're
04:23still can you sell and buy you're probably not going to buy if you're selling can you maintain
04:28competitive play while trading well i mean the the the best value the best thing for the franchise
04:35is that you sell tarik skuble and you get the haul that you want and maybe it's with the dodgers
04:40maybe it's somebody that hey before the lockout they want to be able to compete with the dodgers which
04:45it ups the ante of what you can get back but you sell and if you're going into the final
04:51stretch august
04:54september october and hoping to play october baseball then you also buy a bat at the deadline
05:04so i asked you this earlier i'll ask you again let's say they duplicate the seven and two stretch
05:08they just had and that's against cleveland the white socks and the astros yeah do you sell
05:15if you get the six under 500 at father's day 21 days into june you were 16 under now you're
05:20six
05:21again i put it back in you are you buying six games under 500 okay so that i'm selling so
05:26because one
05:27of the things here is the sooner you trade them the more you're going to get right and that would
05:31be him
05:31having two starts looking good under this scenario right and you start to flirt with this now they've
05:38got tarik skuble bobblehead day july 8th so i don't know that's seventh and eighth seventh and eighth
05:42because of the back-to-back right so i don't know if that's something that would get in the way
05:46i
05:46shouldn't that's for danish no i mean imagine if look at you said what if they win seven of the
05:50next
05:50ten if they lose seven of the next ten and undo all of this i can't imagine scott harris gets
05:55a
05:55serious phone call and goes but the bobbleheads right i mean come on no and i send them to the
06:02new team and then they can repaint them the colors
06:06but no but this to me it comes back to this we were cool with keeping skuble going into the
06:10year in
06:10pursuit of a world series if the world series is off the table you're not buying at the deadline
06:14then then the decision is made yeah you have to sell them get what you can for them because the
06:18best thing for the franchise is and it doesn't mean you have to go in the tank if you scale
06:23sell skuble you can still continue to make your run see if you can get back to 500 see if
06:29you can get
06:29to that wild card spot but the best thing for the franchise is that you continue to stack
06:35talent on top of talent so that you're better next year and think about it next year they'll
06:42have olsen back right joe will be removed from the tommy john school's not going to be here one
06:46way or the other right but my point is like you you're still paying valdez i don't know if you
06:50keep
06:51mys but valdez with olsen joe melton montero like school was awesome no one's saying he's not awesome
07:00but if you could get something for him a lot for him quite a bit for him
07:07sell him come on i mean i think after father's day they need to really start entering into
07:12negotiations to see what's out there yeah and see how much because that team will have a more time if
07:19they if they trade them by the end of this month and you said well if they're not buying then
07:24sell
07:25there is a world where they could continue to compete and get into to where they could buy
07:33late in july oh yeah i mean look i think it's it's slim but i mean you'd leave the door
07:37open with the
07:38way they started june right uh and you would need valdez to be much better he's he would be the
07:42key to
07:43that to where he fills in the ace role it's not going to be like scoobl but he does what
07:47he was brought
07:47here to do and then you maybe add that right-handed bat because you're at 500 or you know you
07:54kind of
07:54fall apart and then you later in july you trade scoobl and or not scoobl like meis and torres
08:00right there could be stages of this but the big domino is scoobl because he'd fetch the biggest
08:04return i'll tell you what i don't think they'll do this like sell him within a couple weeks no i
08:10don't think so either i don't think they will i mean the two different conversations what you want
08:14versus what will happen but the reason i enter in a negotiation just see what's out there what if
08:18somebody goes a little bit overboard right phones we got to get to them jeff in commerce here on
08:2497.1 hey why not um instead of it being an either or situation how how about we sign him
08:34give him
08:35some ridiculous give him some ridiculous offer i don't know seven years 420 and then we can always
08:41trade him next year it has been done in with other athletes where you signed your superstar it's rare
08:47but it has been done why is it an either or why can't we keep him we will never in
08:53our lifetime
08:54get another pitcher as good as this guy and why not well jeff because right now
09:03he's going to have about 11 million dollars left on his contract and there's been talks that hey to
09:07widen the pool of teams that you're going to market him to to get the best return you may have
09:13to eat
09:13the salary if you give him that big deal now all of a sudden hey if you're if you're thinking
09:18well we
09:19want to sign him we want to make sure he's here and we we protect ourselves in case we want
09:22to keep
09:22him but we're going to trade him next year now you've narrowed that pool to one or two teams
09:29that you can actually deal them to and your return is going to be much worse and beyond that jeff
09:34i
09:34think the concern here is scoobal's not accepting any offers until he hits free agency he wants to
09:40take the seven year 420 deal that you just threw out there and then ask the dodgers to beat it
09:46ask the
09:47mets to beat it and get even more money he wants to have the leverage i was under the impression
09:52that
09:52we low-balled him well i think they did which was in the press i don't know it was five
09:58years 230 or
09:59something that it just pissed him off so much or his agent that he was like okay screw you tigers
10:05well i don't know i don't know what's true i just i i do know that there is a reported
10:09gap a
10:10substantial gap i would believe the tigers haven't made a serious offer to scoobal at the same time
10:14some of the the wisdom in that might be we know he's not accepting and it just becomes the starting
10:19point for his new team exactly yeah so you know what we'll just accept what this is it's a one
10:23last
10:24hurrah and they add valdez and let's go may screw things up and and there's only so much time to
10:30to justify keeping him that was our question is can they justify keeping him if they go on a run
10:35here
10:37um dean and milford speaking of wisdom yeah uh dean good morning oh snooty good
10:44morning um that's how i wake up every day yeah best of luck you john welcome back by the way
10:51um really quick how about we do this we get all we we capture all the frogs in the world
10:57and we
10:58find a way to modify them so that they have wings so they don't bump their ass when they when
11:01they
11:02hop like that guy you can't go from hey let's let's do everything we can to sign him to this
11:07ridiculous deal and then turn around and talk about the fact that you pissed him off
11:10no the only option that is logical let me make that clear would be to get rid of it
11:17no no matter what you're doing you have to get rid of and i know that i'm going to get
11:21the
11:21responses oh why do we even play the games if that's the case well the reality of it is is
11:27are
11:27you winning a world series no they're not a team chasing world series right now boom why would you
11:33keep him ever at any point in time yeah you'd have to change that answer in four weeks yeah no
11:41five
11:42weeks i'm not changing it at all no i'm saying they have to change like dean dean if they won
11:4720 of the next 25 ball games would that change your mind if they committed to adding yordan alvarez
11:53dean they trade for yordan alvarez at the deadline
11:58that wouldn't change your i'm not suggesting these things will happen but i'm just saying like if
12:03they were huge buyers and won 20 at 25 and were in first place in the division then you know
12:08what
12:08i think i would roll the dice with terek skuble at that point i just think there's zero chance that
12:13you can win well there's again i'm painting the picture let me ask you this if you think it is
12:18a
12:19foregone conclusion and i don't necessarily disagree that the dodgers are going to win the world series
12:25um dodgers or if the yankees decide that they want to play this year but they haven't done that
12:29in over a decade so they can be waste management garbage water so there's that there's there's
12:35multiple teams the dodgers won with the last two and they're poised to do it again look if you think
12:41it's it's everybody competing for second place then i could so then everybody in the american league
12:45sells and it ruins your market i want to be clear i'm not suggesting the tigers right trade for
12:49all these are exaggerations my point is like you could justify keeping terek skuble if you were
12:55making a serious yes chips into the center of the table move but i don't even think that's wise given
13:02where they are so then it just it puts them in the position where they are where you get what
13:07you get
13:08yeah you don't throw a fit i don't know that doesn't i don't know about all that you know how
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