00:00what do you mean he's gone he's teflon he's steve eiserman yeah that happened as you wake up today
00:06we are in a new world eiserman out as you asked the question why did he fail i mean i
00:13think he
00:14said it himself at the press conference when the season ended we need better players well dude
00:19that's on you it's kind of your job job one get good players and i think it really does go
00:27back
00:28to the pro scouting and the pro player acquisition because they had a few promising young players
00:33they could just never accent them they couldn't build around those guys it turned into a forever
00:38rebuild if you don't want to pay market prices summer after summer you end up settling and paying
00:44cop and confer and then you look to your draft can you can you find well no casper and danielson
00:50don't exactly look like number one or number two c's either i mean this spiraled quickly on him
00:58and he had been given enough opportunities to get out of it yeah i mean that's the thing is there
01:03were opportunities whether it's at the trade deadline free agency trades where he just for
01:10whatever reason and i don't know that we'll ever you know get a chance to sit down with them and
01:17hear why those why didn't you ever pull the trigger yeah why didn't you ever make that move
01:23so do you think quick question on the fly here i don't want to cut you guys off guard but
01:26i'm
01:27going to do it anyways what's the piece of gold that eiserman left us like meaning you know millen
01:34left calvin johnson cider you think it is a guy gonna get norris votes for a decade he got mvp
01:39votes this last season he doesn't score enough goals to maybe win a norris but he plays a winning
01:45brand of physical hockey he never misses a game complete player in his own end of the ice they put
01:51him in some tough deployments now he's he's legit that was eiserman's first pick and it was his
01:55most legit pick here's the thing i'll even give him raymond and edvinson as like legit pieces for
02:00the next fact though like like i would say maybe more like the avila stuff or occasionally we'll
02:04get thank al avila for you're gonna need like trey augustine to emerge right they drafted two goalies
02:11of significance you're gonna need one to hit we know coast is already out of the organization if
02:15trey augustine is the delayed gratification that could be is that kind of what you're looking for
02:20yeah that or pellica okay pellica would be another one he got his his feet wet this last season but
02:24they were they were sheltering him and he could not play major minutes in the national hockey league
02:28last season but maybe his offensive game is transcendent and you get one of these modern
02:32defensemen that we're raving about is this you're saying like the troy weaver dynamic look he gave us
02:37cade he gave us a czar yeah yeah but ultimately if you can't tie it all together you deserve to
02:43lose
02:43your job i can't wait in three years yeah hey don't forget steve eisenman and how he you know
02:48helped build this should new guy get the credit we got this text eisenman never got his top three
02:54draft pick without that your team's gonna fail his other drawback is he never signed a true tough guy
02:59can i just address the first one because it's reminiscent of the lottery luck when you say he
03:03never got his top three draft pick what if i tell you in 2019 he got one of the three
03:08best players
03:08in that draft in mo cider what if i tell you in 2020 he got one of the three best
03:13players
03:13in that draft in lucas raymond i'd rather have raymond than the guy that went number one
03:17lafreniere he got good high-end people in his first two drafts the problem is he didn't build
03:24around those guys he didn't sustain that level of drafting and he didn't build around those but
03:30that takes you back to the 2021 draft as i pointed out a few minutes ago it's really the draft
03:35that swung
03:36things and when you sell that coast is going to be the back-end goalie you know and you're going
03:41to
03:41build a team like you did in tampa with strong defense and a and one of the best goalies in
03:46the
03:46league and then you turn around in late june and trade that guy and you passed up the guy you
03:52tried
03:53to trade for last week i i just i know i think chris is sitting there looking at that kind
03:57of stuff and
03:57it's like what am i supposed to make of this can i give you the name that i'd take a
04:01look at for the
04:02next gym uh for the next general manager the guy i'd take a look at is scott white and you're
04:09thinking
04:09who and i'm not going to pretend i'm an expert i think we're all digging in and learning a little
04:13more about some front offices that we admire down to dallas scott white is the top lieutenant of the
04:17dallas stars he's worked under jim nill who's a three-time gm of the year they're a perennial
04:24hundred point team chasing a stanley cup and they've done a good job drafting outside of the top 10
04:30outside of the top 15 eiserman made eight picks in the top 15 here's who dallas has drafted and developed
04:37outside the top 15 wyatt johnston logan stankoven who now won a cup with carolina they used him as a
04:46chip in the miko ranton and trade but he's a hell of a hockey player maverick bork 30 goal scorer
04:51thomas harley big blue liner a big impact player jake ottinger their goalie jason robertson 100
04:57point player and ropey hints who's essentially a dylan larkin player you know a 30 goal middle of the
05:01second line guy they've drafted all those guys outside of the top 15 that's a good track record
05:09of identifying and developing talent that makes sense for the next general manager of this hockey
05:14team it's not from the family it's not draper it's not horkov it's not shanahan it's it's a
05:21outside the org hire but it's connected in this way jim neill used to be in detroit he was part
05:27of
05:27the organization for four stanley cups he's gone off and proven his merits and he's got his own tree
05:33get his protege scott white because i just don't think you're getting jim neill i know his name's
05:37been floated i don't know why he'd leave a team chasing a cup to come here we had our chance
05:41to
05:41hire him yeah uh but i mean like we say all the time you still make the call maybe he's
05:48got some
05:49maybe a part of his ego says i would love to go to an original six and get them back
05:54to where they
05:55were when it was that 25 year run it was multiple stanley cups you know they're going on this is
06:01the
06:0111th season without making the postseason can he be a part of the solution and even raise what his
06:10legacy is in the nhl more so than it is with the stars right now i mean that that's part
06:16of it and
06:16i don't disagree i think scott white when you are looking at who is next you want to go to
06:23organizations if you're not going to hire somebody with gm experience you want to go to the
06:27organizations where they have shown success things that you want to do in today's hockey
06:32world the business of hockey as it presents itself now that's where you want to pluck that next guy
06:38from so costa wants the illich family to hire another scott as general manager what's up with
06:43all these scott's well if you want to go with a scott or an illich type of hire i'll give
06:49you that
06:50when we come back from the break okay we'll get to that right after the update um i do know
06:54valeni
06:54would be on board with the hire
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