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00:00A lot of Cavs fans upset. They've been mad for years of the Cavs.
00:03When's the last time Cavs fans have been happy with the Cavs?
00:06It's been over a year.
00:07The day before they traded Darius Garland.
00:10The day before Colin Sexton got traded.
00:15Hey, congratulations. Colin Sexton signed like a two-year, $9 million deal or something.
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00:27Danny Cunningham said, wow, Colin Sexton has the task of trying to replace LeBron James twice in his career.
00:33Two years, how much?
00:35And wait, I think it's $18 million, so $9 million a year.
00:38And so he goes from sex land when he was paired up with...
00:43Darius Garland.
00:44Darius Garland. Now he's paired up with Quinton Grimes, so that would be...
00:49Sex Grimes?
00:50Sex Grimes.
00:53I swear to God I didn't realize that. I swear to God I didn't realize that.
01:03You feel good that you walked me right into that one?
01:06Lakers got a really interesting team developing out there in Los Angeles.
01:10More on that later with Stephen A. Smith.
01:14Did you ever see the show The White Shadow?
01:16I did.
01:17Okay.
01:18It's a very interesting Lakers squad.
01:20I think the official team shoe is going to be White New Balance.
01:24It is...
01:25They might have jorts night out there.
01:27Oh, yeah.
01:28That is something else.
01:30Anyway.
01:31Huh.
01:32All right.
01:34Cavs fans are upset.
01:35Let me tell you something, though.
01:37I think right now...
01:39Oh, God.
01:40This is going to come back and bite me in the ass, but I'm going to say it.
01:42I think the Cavs are playing this as well as they can.
01:45Hear me out on this, please.
01:46I know you guys are mad.
01:48The Jalen Brown thing is a hit to some people.
01:51Now, there were some people going,
01:54Daryl, Jonathan, you guys are way out of line.
01:56I know that they freaked out yesterday when the Jalen Brown trade happened.
01:59This is the thing, guys.
02:01Is Evan Mobley, he is...
02:05If you don't trade him, he's a part of your future.
02:08You are in a very...
02:09Kobe Altman is trying to...
02:12He is trying to needle...
02:16Thread a very thin needle.
02:18Whatever.
02:20It is very difficult.
02:22Because I don't think that if Evan Mobley found out that the Cavs were shopping him,
02:26quote, unquote...
02:28I don't think Evan Mobley is going to go to Twitch and do any of the stuff that Jalen Brown
02:32did.
02:32That's not it.
02:33But a guy who's supposed to be your future...
02:36Is he or is he not represented by Rich Paul?
02:38Who's Evan Mobley represented by?
02:40Is he represented by Clutch?
02:41Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
02:42Well, I'm sure it's still a very good agency.
02:45You've got to be careful.
02:47He is...
02:48If he's not traded for a guy who's your right now, he's a big part of your future.
02:55And so the Cavs cannot let it out at all that they're having any of these conversations.
03:01I believe in some of the texts that we've had, they are obsessed with Evan.
03:05They are wanting to keep Evan.
03:07But again, everything is true until it's not.
03:10Miles Garrett, Cleveland to Canton until it wasn't Cleveland to Canton.
03:14Now it's Cleveland to Los Angeles to Canton.
03:16Things are true until they're not in professional sports anymore.
03:19You cannot accept anybody at their word in a press conference anywhere.
03:24Things change.
03:26Realities change.
03:27The Cavs still can't let that happen.
03:28They can't allow a situation where Evan Mobley remembers something like that.
03:33His agent remembers something like that.
03:35They have to be very careful about this.
03:37Because they are trying to balance a very difficult thing.
03:41You have a player that probably has...
03:43I'd love for him to give us two years.
03:45But when you're hearing the stuff from Kevin O'Connor saying that
03:48they've already filmed some stuff in Akron.
03:50And that maybe is why he's in Akron.
03:52And that they're having a documentary series that they're getting ready for.
03:56And you have the camera crew that's following him around.
03:58It seems like this is very much the last dance.
04:01And so when you're trying to trade for a guy or possibly sign a guy.
04:05Not trade a guy.
04:05But sign a guy.
04:06And make it an enticing roster for him.
04:09There's a couple of scenarios that play out.
04:11We all assume that Jalen Brown was going to be a big piece of that.
04:14And he's not anymore.
04:15He got traded to the 76ers.
04:18So now you have to figure out, is Evan Mobley enough to bring in LeBron?
04:23I don't know that answer.
04:25I would say yes, but that's just me being a homer.
04:27So Kobe Ullman has to figure out whether or not it's applicable to trade Evan Mobley.
04:34Can he get away with trading somebody else?
04:36Or will that mess up everything?
04:38I just want to know.
04:38There's so many things that have to work out here.
04:41He has to keep this tight to the vest.
04:42After we just saw what Paul George got traded for, I mean, you know, and considering what
04:47like Luka got traded for.
04:49And then some of these deals are so out of whack because then you saw what Bain got traded
04:54for that haul just last year to Orlando.
04:57Nothing makes sense to me anymore in the NBA.
04:59Like, is there any chance Kobe Altman can trick one of these other GMs?
05:04Because what Gansey was just able to pull off, the guy that was the understudy and the
05:08next in command here in Cleveland, what he was just able to pull off in Philadelphia.
05:12And getting rid of the, the, uh, the Paul George contract is just stunning to me.
05:18So I don't know.
05:19Maybe we got to stop talking about the trades the way we've been talking about these trades,
05:22you know, all together, but yeah, right now, Evan Mobley, um, until further notice, I'm
05:27just assuming he's going to be a Cavalier no matter what it's still untouchable in that
05:31case, which a lot of people are turning around and going, okay, well, I'll get rid of Donovan
05:34Mitchell for things.
05:35I'm going, whoa, you gotta, you gotta slow down on this because just a month ago, it felt
05:39like Donovan exact one, exactly two.
05:42It felt like he was untouchable a month and a half ago.
05:44And now it's slowly started to permeate through Cavs fans going, well, you know, we already
05:49got rid of Darius and now you got Donovan there.
05:52Like we're starting to say some things that if Kobe Altman said him, he can't take him
05:56back.
05:57You can take him back.
05:58I can take him back.
05:59Any fan can Kobe Altman can't do that.
06:01So he has to be very careful about this.
06:03He has a guy who out there, James Harden.
06:05And I don't know what agreement they have in place, but I'm just going to go under the
06:08thought that he could just sign with anybody if he wanted to right now.
06:11He's got to be extremely careful about this.
06:13Well, the James Harden.
06:14Because it's still a good team, guys.
06:15Damn it.
06:16It's still, they're still good.
06:18Well, you can't just blow this thing up by accident.
06:20Now on paper, there's more good teams now in the Easter conference than it seems like
06:25there has been in a long time.
06:26That's true.
06:26But they're still good.
06:28But it's, it's still, now to me, it seems like the East is still wide open.
06:32And I know we're getting caught in the, well, it's just at the Knicks in the East and in
06:37the West at San Antonio.
06:39Well, that tells us that we haven't learned anything.
06:41Tells me we haven't learned anything from how crazy in flux the NBA has been, you know,
06:46over the last eight years, nine years.
06:49It's, you know, the Pacers had just emerged and we're not, we don't even talk about the
06:53Indiana Pacers.
06:54And now Toronto with Kawhi Leonard, obviously that is very, they're going to be better.
06:58Permittable.
06:58Philadelphia is going to be better.
06:59I think the heat are cooking up something.
07:01They're going to be better.
07:02Like it's good.
07:02And obviously the Knicks, they lose Mitchell Robinson and he was a nice piece for them,
07:06but the Knicks are still the Knicks.
07:08I mean, Boston, I don't know if they're going to go quietly into that night, but they take
07:11a step back with this move.
07:12I think that's clear, but you're still on a good team.
07:15You still have a good team that the rest of the conference got tougher and they are not
07:20yet necessarily done making moves here.
07:22So while a lot of people are freaking out over this, again, you could say anything you want
07:26and just take it back or act like you never said it.
07:28And that's 98% of sports talk radio show hosts do that, except for Tone and I, I mean, I
07:33mean
07:34that sincerely, by the way.
07:35So why Colby Altman can't do that?
07:38Why would he, if Evan Mobley is available to make a trade, to get better, you can do
07:45that down the line.
07:47If he's available to make a trade, to get better, you can do that.
07:50But he may very well not be because at the end of this sentence, he's still 24 years
07:54old and there's still a world where he can go through that he does blossom in to a tremendous
07:59player or he blossoms into a player just above what he is.
08:03And he's still one of the elite defenders in this league and is still a guy who can be
08:07a scoring threat to you.
08:08And he played well in the post season with the exception of a couple of, a couple of clunkers.
08:12He played well in the post season this last year.
08:15Colby Altman has to be extremely careful about what comes out of that office and nothing
08:21being said, while that bothers a lot of fans because everybody else is making moves is the
08:27right thing right now.
08:28I believe that firmly.
08:30I wonder if the fans do.
08:31I bet I'm going to get killed for that.
08:32I do think they're doing a good job.
08:35Doesn't feel like it, but I do think it.
08:38Think and feel is a different thing because you have to keep this under wraps if you're Colby
08:41Altman.
08:42Do you agree with me?
08:45Oh boy.
08:45I don't like that.
08:46I'm whether they're doing a good job.
08:47Because they.
08:48We got to wait.
08:49It's still.
08:50Everybody wanted to jump on Colby Altman and Bashikavs yesterday because Jalen Brown was
08:55just given away.
08:56Until they do a bad job, they're doing a good job because you can't just sit there and make
09:00it public that you're trading away, that you're willing to trade away Evan Mobley.
09:04You can't just make it public.
09:06Right, the fact that they haven't announced.
09:07Any goofball on the radio.
09:09Like, we've been saying some pretty strong stuff about Donovan Mitchell here over the
09:14last month and a half.
09:14And I'd love to dig into it more because, boy, we were talking about this guy being the second
09:18greatest Cavalier to ever put on a jersey at one point.
09:21And now, oh yeah, I'll move on from him.
09:22Like, Daryl will pack his bags.
09:25Daryl will pack his bags.
09:27And don't tell me Daryl ain't said it.
09:29He said it right to my face.
09:30Like, he is more than willing to do it.
09:31And I didn't think that it would be a trade for Jalen Brown that the Celtics would want.
09:36Here, I mean, good God.
09:39If Donovan Mitchell instead of Paul George, I think you probably could have signed him
09:43up for it if you were willing to do so.
09:45But Kobe Altman's not necessarily willing to do that because Donovan can be a good facilitator.
09:49He can be a good guy for LeBron James to play with.
09:52You have the James Harden stuff out there where James has not signed to the Cleveland
09:57Cavaliers yet.
09:58Now, I've asked, is there any tentative agreement that, hey, we're going to sign you to this.
10:04You've gone into a binding deal that you can't sign with other teams.
10:09I don't know if that's even legally possible.
10:11I just keep asking the question because you're putting a lot of trust into a guy who's only
10:15been here for three months.
10:17And James Harden could go anywhere he wants.
10:20That would make monetary sense.
10:22Well, we still don't know the terms of the restructure on Harden, which is huge.
10:27It's everything.
10:28Guys, we've got to understand this.
10:29The terms of the restructure, James Harden can go, listen, I'll re-sign with you guys.
10:33Evan's got to stay.
10:34I'll re-sign with you guys.
10:36Donovan has to stay.
10:37And I'm sure there's plenty of fans lining up after I say that going, who cares?
10:41They don't even like James Harden to begin with.
10:43He's still a great player.
10:44And he was a good player for us this year.
10:46And if you want to bring in LeBron James, he should absolutely make James Harden a better
10:50playoff player.
10:51Like, there are so many moving pieces to this.
10:54It is not as black and white as we make it out to be.
10:57So I have to calm some things down here and say, yeah, until it's a terrible, terrible situation,
11:02and it may very well go that way, I think the Cavs are handling it as best as they possibly
11:06can.
11:07Because you can't let any of this stuff out there.
11:09You can't.
11:10You can't tell anybody that you're thinking of trading Evan Mobley.
11:13You have to go with the exact opposite.
11:15And it's the same with Donovan, because you have to make sure that James Harden is placated.
11:19And obviously, I think that Kobe Altman has a sense of what LeBron's thinking, but I don't
11:24have a sense of what LeBron's thinking.
11:27I mean, now we're hearing about the 76ers being involved for him.
11:30Two days ago, he's singing about going home, and he's by his pool in Bath.
11:35So I don't, I can't sit there and claim I know what's going through that guy's head.
11:38And I'd love to bring him back, but this is part of the very thin wire that Kobe Altman
11:46has to walk.
11:48I got to defend it right now.
11:50Well, I can't get nuts on going after Kobe until we see the bigger picture here.
11:55Like, I truly do wonder what, as I kind of shared some of the names.
12:00I'll share a worse scenario for you after this.
12:02Yeah, go ahead.
12:02Yeah, like, I don't know when you think about how to improve this team and in the tough cap
12:10situation that all these teams are in, because I heard Wynn Horst and Bobby Marks were on
12:14Wendy's pod late last night.
12:17And Bobby Marks was like, Brian, how many teams, how many playoff teams have gotten better
12:24in the NBA?
12:25And he paused and they were like, all right, Toronto, Philly, Philly has, and, you know,
12:33Miami was not a playoff team.
12:35Who in the West?
12:36No, Miami wasn't.
12:37The Knicks, Knicks took a step back.
12:40Boston clearly took a step back, losing Jalen Brown.
12:45Like, what teams?
12:45Micers took a step back.
12:47Did they?
12:48They got Luka, but.
12:49Yes, they took a step back.
12:50Okay, I'm just making sure.
12:51I mean, I really got Kessler, but I'm sorry.
12:54Like, they added some pieces of parts on the bench.
12:57Holy cow.
12:58I think if you said Walker Kessler to anybody out there on the street, they'd think he's
13:01a country music singer.
13:02It is probably true.
13:03I'm very serious about that.
13:05So, that's all I'm saying.
13:06Like, right now, we only have so little of the picture.
13:09We don't even know what the Harden contract situation is, because they've already saved
13:14money from where Darius Garland's contract was.
13:17They swapped out Garland, brought in Harden.
13:20Harden was better, got him to the Eastern Conference Finals, helped get him there.
13:23So now what?
13:24What are those savings going to mean for this team that's lost Keon Ellis and lost Dean
13:29Wade?
13:30You're hoping that it means that you're able to find some wiggle room to be able to sign
13:34LeBron James for something decent, because he's not going to take the veteran minimum
13:37for crying out loud, because you've got to make it look good.
13:39And I think you could possibly do that.
13:41But let me spell out a worst-case scenario, because I know that a lot of people disagree
13:45with what I just said.
13:46Let me spell it out worse.
13:48What if you let it be public that you're thinking of trading Evan Mobley, and then you're not
13:51able to execute that trade?
13:52Or what if you're thinking about making it public that you're willing to trade Donovan
13:56Mitchell, and then you're not able to execute that trade?
13:58When you still have James Harden technically as a free agent.
14:02I know that not a lot of people are excited about this team.
14:04Guys, there's a very real possibility.
14:07Had these things got out, or if these things get out, and you're not able to bring this
14:11to fruition, you could be a far worse basketball team than what you were going into this year.
14:16And some people, I think, just want to blow it up.
14:18You're not blowing it up in that sense, because you're not getting all the great things back.
14:22You saw what this deal just was for Jalen Brown.
14:24Yeah, so what would the Donovan Mitchell return be?
14:26Guys, I can't guarantee that you're going to get this plethora, this cornucopia of picks
14:30to build your future with back.
14:32I really can't.
14:33I don't know.
14:33This is crazy, some of the stuff that's going on here.
14:36So I know I sound frantic right now, but I just have to plead.
14:42I've been critical of Kobe Altman before.
14:44We all have.
14:45Everybody has.
14:47But I've got to kind of trust him, and right now I can, because I haven't heard anything
14:52out of that room.
14:53I haven't heard anything out of those folks.
14:56So as long as I don't hear anything, I'm going to assume that they're trying to work
15:00on moves, but I'm also going to know that they're trying to make sure that if they can't
15:05make moves, because you've got to get two people to do something together, if you can't make
15:09moves, then, damn it, you still have a good basketball team.
15:13It's going to take a hit.
15:14Yes.
15:15Boston's a little bit worse, but certainly the 76ers and Toronto Raptors, just like you
15:19said, are better.
15:21It sucks.
15:22That part of it.
15:23The heat are better.
15:24That part of it sucks.
15:25We've got to deal with that.
15:26You know, Detroit made a move yesterday, but I didn't think it was anything that was that
15:30significant that changed their lot in life in the Eastern Conference yet.
15:34And you know this.
15:36If this is a team that, and I fought the label before, but labels are labels, and what makes
15:44labels labels is that they're not fair.
15:46I have fought the toughness thing, even though there's been several former players who have
15:51lined up and said, Channing Fry even went after him the other day about it last week.
15:56There's been a lot of guys going after this basketball team.
15:59You know that they're not necessarily the toughest, most headstrong team.
16:03I can at least say that.
16:05It's much easier for a team like that to go south than it is to go north.
16:09And if you let it out of the bag that you're thinking about moving on from any of these guys,
16:13that goes south real quick.
16:14And then if you know that guys are going to get out of there, everybody knew Jalen Brown
16:18wanted out of Boston.
16:19He might not have said it officially, according to Sean Sharanya, but everybody knew he wanted
16:23out of Boston.
16:24You're talking 40 cents on the dollar is his comparison to that.
16:27What are you getting for Donovan Mitchell at 30 years old as a guard?
16:30Who's about to get paid 70 plus million a year.
16:33I would say you'd be able to get great things for Evan Mobley, but I'm looking at the trades
16:37in the league going right now going, can we get great things for Evan Mobley now?
16:41And he's your biggest piece.
16:42He's your one ascending asset other than Jalen Tyson, but Jalen Tyson isn't going to be
16:46the player that Evan Mobley already is.
16:49So you got two guys that are on their way up.
16:51You got to be very careful with this.
16:53So I got to, I know I sound frantic because I always sound frantic, but I always have to
16:58calm.
16:58I have to calm you down and say, Hey, it's not over yet.
17:01I'm not trying to say things that I don't mean.
17:04They can't let the cat out of the bag until all the characters are in place.
17:08I was going to ask you if it, if it's just LeBron, if that's all they pull off here, how
17:14are you feeling about the off season and Kobe?
17:16But then I also think there's no way it's just LeBron.
17:19I feel like LeBron would probably have to be somebody else.
17:22Yes.
17:22It would probably have to be somebody else.
17:24So something may be in the works.
17:25So I think Donovan is, I do think Donovan is probably up for grabs of some sense, which
17:30would be really earth shattering to some degree.
17:34I think, I think Evan would probably be up for grabs to some sense, which would be yes,
17:38surprising, but I think people are willing to go all in.
17:41But before it was, I knew it would possibly be for Jalen Brown.
17:45We could discuss that or Giannis.
17:47Now we're kind of going into the great unknown.
17:49I mean, you're talking about Anthony Davis tone.
17:50I don't think Anthony Davis whips the appetite of any Cavs fan out there.
17:54All I know about Anthony Davis is that he gets hurt all the time.
17:56I mean, you're bringing up Zion Richardson.
17:58I don't know how exciting that's going to be for a lot of Cavs fans.
18:01So when you take out Giannis, who we were talking about in the winter and LeBron, we've
18:06been talking about for years, but you take out Giannis that we were talking about in the
18:09winter and Jalen Brown, who we started talking about towards the end of the post season,
18:14you remove those names.
18:15These are household names that people have looked up.
18:17The other ones, I don't know if it's as an easy of a sell.
18:21So I think you have to have LeBron with those guys, because if LeBron comes back with one
18:26of these people, I don't know how excited I'll be about Anthony Davis still, but it makes
18:31it easier because you can trust LeBron on the floor.
18:34216-474-0092.
18:35Larry in Cleveland.
18:36You're next up on the fan.
18:37Hello, Larry.
18:38Yeah, thank you, man.
18:39How are you?
18:40On this hot day.
18:42We're doing it.
18:42We're getting by, Larry.
18:43Go ahead.
18:44Man, I'd like to say, man, bring LeBron home, because we've got some unfinished business
18:49with the next champions.
18:51But most of all, man, we should never back, I swear, because we've got too much talent,
18:58and then on top of that, he would show DeVon Mitchell how to close games.
19:02He do not know.
19:03DeVon Mitchell do not know how to close games.
19:05Donovan, Donovan Mitchell, Larry, Donovan.
19:07Is that what they're calling him?
19:08No, they're calling him Donovan.
19:11Most of all, man, he's a good facilitator, man, and plus he brings money to him back home.
19:17Well, that was part of one of the things, Larry.
19:18Larry, thank you for the call, because that's one of the things I thought of when it came
19:21to LeBron, too.
19:22When Jay LeBron was still a possibility yesterday morning, I know that he's a cantankerous person
19:26right now, but you would think that LeBron has got other people to fall in line, and
19:30he probably would get Jay LeBron to fall in line as well.
19:32It might be the same thing with a lot of guys there.
19:35But any of these other, like, Giannis was exciting.
19:39Jalen Brown was exciting.
19:40You need LeBron to help sell some of these other names that are out there, and you're
19:44probably not getting any of those other names unless you have LeBron to sell it, so it's
19:48too full.
19:48Is LeBron in that realm at this age, this many years in?
19:52Does he have that kind of influence the way that he would have 10 years ago, even five
20:01years ago?
20:01I mean, obviously, he was responsible for Anthony Davis coming to the Lakers, and then
20:06they won a championship.
20:08So, you know, he had that pull.
20:10Does he still have that pull, that cachet in 2026?
20:16LeBron?
20:19I don't know.
20:20Is Anthony Davis in his prime to you?
20:22No.
20:23No.
20:24But, you know, Anthony Davis, if he was healthy, would be, to me, an upgrade.
20:29A huge upgrade.
20:30But what are the odds?
20:32How do you get Anthony Davis healthy into the playoffs?
20:34You want LeBron back, but you don't know his future.
20:36Because for so long, it was guys want to play with LeBron, even though I always said they
20:41play for LeBron.
20:42Now, at the end of his career, what do you do long-term?
20:47Of course, if you win a championship, nobody cares.
20:49We're not talking long-term at all.
20:50But I'm saying for the player, what do you do long-term?
20:52Like, if I sign a contract with Cleveland and then LeBron retires, which is what I would
20:57expect.
20:57Am I going to raise hell to try to get myself out of Cleveland?
21:00Am I going to do that?
21:01I mean, that happened with Kevin Love.
21:03Or am I so...
21:04Last time around.
21:05Am I so tight with Donovan Mitchell?
21:08Does any of this really go that way?
21:09Or does Donovan Mitchell decide on his own accord going into next year?
21:12Because I don't think there's really any Cavs fans who are lining up to pay him $60 to
21:17$70 million a season.
21:18You know, and that's the other thing.
21:19I know we got to go.
21:20The Donovan Mitchell part of this is so hard because you wonder if he came to the conclusion
21:27after this playoff run, in which he was so hopeful, teaming up with Harden, and then
21:32to see how it ended, you wonder if Donovan Mitchell has resigned to the notion that he
21:39could be the best player on a championship team.
21:41Or did he watch what Jalen Brunson just did and have the opposite point of view?
21:45I bet he probably has the opposite.
21:46Well, I wonder.
21:47I wonder what Donovan is thinking in all of this.
21:49Man, he's a professional basketball player.
21:51He's just turning 30.
21:52I think he's still at that level.
21:54Is he thinking if I was surrounded by the right wings the way that Jalen Brunson is?
21:59Let me correct myself.
22:00I don't know if he's still at that same.
22:01I don't think he's still at that same level.
22:03I still think he thinks he's still at that same level.
22:05That's what I think.
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