00:00Let's talk Sorsby here for just a second.
00:02All right.
00:03I don't know how much of this you got into with.
00:06I'm into it deep.
00:09The kind of the new thing to me is that you've got the lawmakers now assuring college athletics decision makers
00:25that if they were to get through the legislation,
00:28this protect college sports act, it would they're saying it would override Sorsby's legal challenge and allow the NCAA to
00:39maintain this eligibility restriction.
00:41So we've already got that protects.
00:46And you weren't here when that bill came through.
00:49It was very predictable that there were there were going to be parts of it that the SEC and the
00:55Big Ten didn't like.
00:57And you can't blame them for it.
00:58Because there are parts of it that would probably limit them a little bit financially.
01:05And so when it first came out and it's bipartisan, right, you've got a Republican and a Democrat lawmaker that
01:11have put this together, highly advised.
01:14There's a lot of good stuff in there, Paul.
01:16There's a lot of interesting stuff in there that I didn't really see coming that, you know, that are probably
01:21going to be pain points.
01:22So everybody, you know, it's predictable, right?
01:24You're going to get there and you're going to have lawmakers from, you know, states that are in the Big
01:30Ten and the SEC that are going to push back on a lot of this because these schools are going
01:33to be like, this is going to kill us, whatever.
01:36But then we get the Sorsby situation.
01:38And I don't think, Paul, you follow this for a long time.
01:43I'm not sure that I've ever seen a story that is it feels like it's a million versus one here.
01:54Like, there is not anybody sympathetic to this right now outside of Lubbock, Texas.
02:02I'm not even totally convinced how sympathetic Texas Tech is more than their hands are a little bit tied here.
02:09Because here's the interesting part, and I've talked about this with TJ, Paul.
02:14Imagine if you're Texas Tech and there's nothing they can say that's going to appease people.
02:20But Sorsby just sued and essentially won against the NCAA on being suspended.
02:27What happens if Tech then tries to suspend him?
02:30Can he not sue them too?
02:33So I don't think it's quite as black and white as we'd like it to be, which would be for
02:38Tech to be like, yeah, I'm sorry, you're not playing.
02:40I think there may be more to it there.
02:44So if there is some way that this bill could appease this situation, it's a one-off case.
02:52But do you think it could kind of shove that in the right direction a little bit further?
02:57Because we need that bill.
02:58We need certain parts of that bill to get control on this situation.
03:02And I think it was lining up to get a little bogged down in the legislative process.
03:07Maybe this pushes it through.
03:10Well, there are several things that we have observed that we now know for a fact.
03:16The first one is obvious, and that is that the NCAA is toothless.
03:21They have no power.
03:23They have no work.
03:24And that's what this bill would restore that power, by the way.
03:27That's right.
03:28But right now, they are nothing.
03:30They're less than nothing.
03:31They do not make a difference in anything.
03:34And that's the way that is.
03:36But it should be, if you wanted to really see a great story, the storyline should be Texas Tech Athletics
03:44says that this is unacceptable behavior by our student-athletes.
03:49I don't care what the rule is, but we're not going to allow him to play for Texas Tech.
03:54We're not going to have our product tainted.
03:57Yeah, I get it.
03:59You know what this young man does?
03:59Because he taints the product known as football, college football.
04:04I don't trust football anymore.
04:06I don't trust any player who steps out of bounds.
04:09I don't trust any player who goes down untouched.
04:13I don't trust any receiver.
04:15Now, you're talking about a threat.
04:17You don't really believe that as Paul Savage.
04:19I don't know.
04:21Oh, come on now.
04:22I'm just telling you right now.
04:24I think that gambling is a curse for the sport of college football.
04:29I believe it could be the killer of it.
04:32I believe it could really harm it.
04:34I mean, you look back.
04:35I mean, I don't think you are.
04:37It's harming it right now.
04:38It's harming it right now.
04:39But again, we, you know, you've got to put these guardrails in because you've made it easier.
04:47Right.
04:48People have always been able to gamble just through illegal avenues.
04:52Right.
04:52And here's the other thing that does not get talked about.
04:55Here's the other part that doesn't get talked about.
04:59Brendan Sorsby was illegally gambling.
05:01It wasn't like he was following the he wasn't using his own name.
05:06He was logging in as other people.
05:08He was underage.
05:10He could have done that whether gambling was legal or not.
05:14Right.
05:15So we he's not catching enough heat here, in my opinion, for all the illegal pieces of this.
05:23You're making my case.
05:25That's exactly right.
05:26What I'm saying, we can table that.
05:28But what I'm saying is there's this narrative that he just started a DraftKings account and
05:33started betting that he didn't like legally like you would be able to do.
05:37That's not it at all.
05:38He was illegally logging into accounts underage and other people's accounts.
05:42He was doing this stuff illegally, not just against college sports rules, against the law.
05:48Nobody's given him.
05:50Nobody's talking about that.
05:51Like he just broke the law in like nine different ways.
05:55We'll come back and we'll continue.
