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Shan, RJ and Bobby took a look at all of the fallout from across the sports world following Brendan Sorsby's injunction. They discussed the national outrage, and a rumored boycott from Big 12 teams. They debated if Texas Tech is the ultimate villain, how booster shape the program's image, and more.
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00:00The Brendan Sorsby fallout yesterday after the breaking news came in the nine o'clock hour
00:05that a court rules he is eligible for the 2026 college football season after missing the first
00:11two games and the world of college football was angry, distraught, and plotting some revenge.
00:19Yes, it was. Coaches told or gave the following quotes anonymously to The Athletic.
00:25What are we doing here? This is the worst thing I've seen in 20 years of coaching.
00:30If gambling isn't punishable, what is?
00:33And a player told them, so I guess we can gamble on our own teams and get away with it
00:37now.
00:39You have reports from Ross Dellinger, who's done a great job on this story,
00:44that potentially Big 12 schools...
00:47Sonny Dykes, by the way, said, how's anyone ever going to trust the outcome of a game again?
00:52Right, right. Big 12. We have confirmation that...
00:56Black Sox scandal was brought up by the Florida AD.
00:58At least two schools. One of them was Georgia.
01:03I think Nebraska was the other one, said,
01:05we are pulling out of all negotiations with Texas Tech on future games in any sport.
01:10Big 12 athletic directors are saying and telling Brett Jormack in his office,
01:18we have concerns about playing them.
01:20We are considering not playing Texas Tech this year.
01:23That's a conference game. What are you going to do, forfeit the game?
01:26So TCU, let's just say TCU, they would forfeit the game?
01:30Because if they refuse to play Tech, that's TCU that's forfeiting.
01:34And Pete Thamel said Big Ten officials are talking about this as well.
01:38So all the teams in the Big 12 and all the teams in the Big Ten are flirting with the
01:43idea
01:44of just not playing the Red Raiders in anything.
01:47And this is the story that would maybe jump the Big Ten and the SEC to break away.
01:55Something like this. This would jump them.
01:58Because they just need a push. They just need a reason to do it.
02:01I think the reality is that Tech is secretly probably hoping that he just goes to the supplemental draft.
02:08That would clear them. That would get them away from them.
02:11I don't think so. I think this is, we're dug in.
02:16I think Cody is. We're going for this.
02:18I think Cody's dug in.
02:19If Cody is, Texas Tech is. Cody is Texas Tech.
02:21Cody's asking Grok on Twitter how many arrests Georgia has for speeding.
02:27Bobby, is it fair to have this viewpoint and possible action towards the school
02:36when it's the court that's allowing the player to participate?
02:40Is it fair to take all that out, that anger on Texas Tech?
02:46It's the court allowed it, but they're fighting for it.
02:50So it's, I don't know, it's a little bit like, you know, whenever you've seen or heard of any sort
02:57of,
02:57there was an infidelity in a relationship.
03:00And you go confront the guy who slept with your girl.
03:02And then he's like, don't be mad at me. You should be mad at your girl.
03:05And then it's a little bit like, well, no, you still did it.
03:08And so I think there's, from Tech's angle, they may be like, hey, be mad at the courts.
03:11It's like, yeah, but you're the one that's going in there.
03:13What are you talking about?
03:14So, no, I think that there's just, I think ultimately what this is, is there's a ton of frustration
03:23with across college football right now with Cody Campbell, whether it's this or anything else.
03:27And I think there's just naturally a lot of, like, irritation about anything he does
03:32because people don't like how much money he's able to throw around, which, good for him.
03:36He's got it, and he's using it.
03:37And there are plenty of people who have, I mean, not plenty, but there are a lot of people
03:41who have Cody Campbell money that don't use it this way.
03:44He's willing to use his money in this way.
03:46And so you can't hate that, like, that he's willing to just pour into the program,
03:50pour into his university.
03:51If I had Cody Campbell's money, I'd be doing the same thing for Tennessee.
03:53But, you know, we went to the Ranger game, we'd be watching the softball,
03:57Tennessee softball.
03:59But the, man.
04:00You'd buy it up all those girls.
04:01I think there's just a total.
04:04Jobstein over here.
04:05There's a total, there's a total just frustration with what Tech has done
04:11with their football program over the last couple years.
04:13And it's naturally going to cause a lot of resentment anytime they're in the news.
04:18Well, let me say this.
04:19By the way, Cincinnati has skated in this whole thing, and I think it's ridiculous.
04:22And they've known.
04:23They've known since day one.
04:26Jacob Ray, this is for you and all the other Red Raider fans.
04:30And I didn't tweet this yesterday because I was too excited for game three of the finals,
04:34and I didn't want to waste my entire night.
04:36Yeah, you don't want to ruin that.
04:37I saw Choppy deal with a little bit of it.
04:41Texas Tech, you're the villain.
04:44It's not just Soarsby as the individual villain.
04:47You have gone from cute, likable, fun, tortilla throwing, Joey McGuire fist pumping to the villain.
04:59And you just have.
05:01So everyone is going to be celebrating a Soarsby pick.
05:06The memes are going to be there.
05:08The gifs are going to be there.
05:10And with every Texas Tech loss, coupled with Cody Campbell and the Texas Longhorn trash talking,
05:17you have been transformed into the bad guy.
05:21So just deal with that reality.
05:24The transformation is about to be complete.
05:26And it's kind of reminding me our interaction and what you dealt with a little bit yesterday on X with
05:32the Aggie fans with Manziel.
05:35When I kept saying Johnny's acting like a punk and Johnny's going to be a bum and Johnny is acting
05:40like Justin Bieber.
05:41And the Aggie fans could not take it.
05:44Oh, no.
05:45And it was a weekly war and battle with them all the time, all the time.
05:50And I think that's where we're heading to a little bit here as people are trying to argue with you
05:55over what county and what jurisdiction the ruling came from.
06:00When you're trying to get that, and we had a little bit of it with some Penn State nut jobs
06:04over the Paterno.
06:06What's the other dude's name?
06:09Sandusky stuff.
06:10Sandusky stuff.
06:10And you're going to get your college doctor.
06:12Baylor.
06:12We got a little bit of it with Baylor defense and everything there with Bryles.
06:16But Texas Tech, just know, your cute little fun story has flipped.
06:21Which, by the way, those two, you're not at all comparing those two stories.
06:25No, no, no, no.
06:26Just the fan base.
06:27I'm just saying, like, for anybody who would, like, just automatically go, like, oh, grouping us with that.
06:31No, no, no.
06:32We're just talking about, like, tactics.
06:33And, look, I mean, you could say that, oh, it's not a Lubbock judge.
06:36Oh, well, it's Lubbock County.
06:38So, where do you think Lubbock County would have their courthouse?
06:41Just take a guess.
06:42What city Lubbock County would have.
06:44Was it Post?
06:44I don't think it's in Post.
06:46It's probably in Lubbock.
06:48And it doesn't matter.
06:49Like, the point is, is, and by the way, everyone.
06:52And Soresby looks like a bad guy, too, with that hair.
06:55I'm sorry, Jay.
06:55He's got the back of your hair, but it's, like, curly and all.
06:59It just gives me a Razor Ramon feeling.
07:03Don't bring me the, you know, he's inundated with marketing about gambling.
07:08Well, you know, are you going to excuse him for drunk driving?
07:11Because there's alcohol ads everywhere?
07:14Or this is protecting his mental health.
07:17Nobody in the history of the world ever complained about a gambling addiction when they were up a half a
07:23million dollars.
07:24Okay?
07:24It's when they get caught gambling illegally or they're down that they say, well, I'm just addicted to gambling.
07:30Yeah, my mental health was bad last night.
07:32Yeah.
07:33Yeah.
07:34Listen, nobody's a bigger degenerate gambler than I am.
07:37There is, I push back.
07:40Not everything's an addiction.
07:41Sometimes you make bad decisions.
07:43All right?
07:43It's a bad decision.
07:45Jake, nobody's a sex addict until they get caught by their wife.
07:48That's when you become a sex addict.
07:49You claim it.
07:50How do you feel about the villainous role?
07:53And do you agree with it?
07:54I mean, the bottom line is you're not a villain if you're not winning.
07:58So, this would have been irrelevant if they went 6-6 last season.
08:03If Brennan Sorsby was still at Cincinnati, nobody would be arguing not to play them right now.
08:08Like, that wouldn't be a thing.
08:09I think these teams realize that their only shot at Tech in the Big 12 is if they don't have
08:12their quarterback.
08:13I was talking to one of my buddies yesterday.
08:15I think Tech could roll out Jacoby Williams, Quinton Joyner, and Cam Dickey in a triple option backfield and go
08:2112-0 in the Big 12.
08:22With how easy that schedule is and with how good your defense is.
08:26But the bottom line is I don't necessarily know all this fight during the regular season is worth a season
08:32of Sorsby.
08:33Like, you have a guy for one year.
08:35It's a rental.
08:35And I don't necessarily know if it's worth tarnishing your football program.
08:39You've got a five-star quarterback coming in, a five-star freshman quarterback coming in next year.
08:43You've got a top-five recruiting class.
08:44So, if they can do some damage control, I think it's worth it.
08:48If not, I would just move on.
08:50Good take.
08:51Speaking of the effect on the season, BetOnline and Vegas sent me the changes to Texas Tech's year.
08:59Their odds to win the college football playoff went from 25-1 to 14-1.
09:04Their odds to win the Big 12...
09:06Yeah, those Sorsby betting on it and moving the line.
09:08Their odds to win the Big 12 went from plus 105 to minus 150.
09:14Their win total went from 10.5 to 11.
09:18Remember, we were questioning, why is this story worth just a half a win?
09:23Yeah.
09:24And then his Heisman odds are back on the board at 18-1.
09:29That's ninth best in terms of the Heisman Trophy winners.
09:32I would be stunned if he got many votes.
09:38You know, like the villain thing.
09:39I don't know how many votes he would get.
09:41Well, this is part of my FAF.
09:45If he's ruled eligible and he balls out and has the best season, he should win the Heisman.
09:50Yeah.
09:51Period.
09:52I've stood by that rule.
09:54I don't think those voters, you know, they don't practice that.
09:58If Tech has a national title and he plays out of his mind, he'll win the Heisman.
10:02Yeah, maybe.
10:03They won't win the title, though.
10:05No, they won't.
10:06But, I mean, if they're playing at a level...
10:08There will be voters, to Choppy's point, that will hold this against them.
10:11Probably, although yesterday they were talking to some people at the CFP, and the CFP committee
10:14said they wouldn't.
10:15Like, some of the anonymous sources and stories yesterday, people at the CFP committee said
10:19they were like, nope, if he's playing, he's playing.
10:21So, like, we're not going to hold that against Tech.
10:23And why are you just automatically ruling them out after the Indiana Hoosiers just won it all?
10:31Well, look, they went up against Oregon last year, and they got absolutely mollywhopped.
10:37They're not that good.
10:39They were that good in the Big 12.
10:41The Big 12 is trashed.
10:43Ass-ass.
10:45It's Shady McCoy ass-ass.
10:47Tech is good.
10:49Everybody said Tech is good last year.
10:51Tech was a good last year.
10:52Yeah, I mean, like, it's the same...
10:54Okay, you can do your North Texas bid all you want, but I mean, like, the reality is,
10:57they played Oregon, and they got destroyed.
10:59Yeah, and a lot of people are like, okay, so, like, Tennessee got destroyed by Ohio State,
11:03and the SEC gets destroyed by the Big Ten, but you still come over here and slob all over them
11:07every time you talk about the SEC, and it doesn't matter.
11:10So, you still say how great the SEC is, despite them getting their ass kicked by the Big Ten
11:13every time.
11:13Did they get their ass kicked?
11:15Okay, so he's like, okay, so this isn't a real argument.
11:17Okay, I got it.
11:18Did they get their ass kicked?
11:19I see you're doing a bit now.
11:20All right.
11:20Did they get their ass kicked?
11:21I see you're doing a bit now.
11:22All right.
11:22What's the bit?
11:24He took a random take, and he decided to dig in on it.
11:28They're not as good as Ohio State, but either, like, all but, like, two teams in college football.
11:32So, they're not going to win.
11:34So, they have no chance of winning.
11:35They're not on that level.
11:37Notre Dame beat teams that were better than them in the CFP a couple years ago.
11:41Ohio State was the eighth team in the CFP a couple years ago.
11:44No, they were not the eighth team.
11:45They got put at the eighth seed because they lost to Michigan.
11:48They were not the eighth best.
11:49How are the Texas Tech fans reacting on the Frankel & Frankel text line 877-881-1053?
11:55And I think Jacob asks maybe the best question of all, is all this worth it for Sorsby, and
12:02is all this worth it for one year if he rolls out?
12:06Because, again, the image of your program has totally flipped.
12:11It is worth it.
12:12Imagine if he rolls out and he plays like Arch did.
12:14Why is it worth it?
12:15You said they can't win.
12:16Why is it worth it?
12:17Because name recognition.
12:20College sports and recruiting is as much about name recognition as anything else.
12:24Is this a positive recruiting element?
12:27I don't think it is.
12:28One of the dumbest sayings of all time is, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
12:32That's an idiotic, stupid statement.
12:34All the arrests that Georgia gets, all the arrests that Urban Meyer and Florida got.
12:38They do not get the recruits because they're getting arrested.
12:39No, no, no.
12:40They don't.
12:40No, no, no.
12:40I'm not saying.
12:41I'm saying it doesn't matter.
12:42I'm saying it doesn't matter.
12:43Your program, how it's run, name recognition matters so much.
12:49And seeing that the school is going to go to bat for you, that Cody Campbell's got all
12:54this money, he's going to throw at you, he's going to go to bat for you on social media.
12:58I don't think it's a negative.
13:01It's much better to be known and recognized than anonymous.
13:06And prior to Cody Campbell, Tech was an anonymous national program.
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