00:00Andrew Barry was on Friday, and then I heard you guys talking like,
00:04well, when are we going to have Ken respond to some of the stuff
00:06that Andrew Barry was saying and things like that?
00:08Fine.
00:08You want me to respond to some of it?
00:10I'll respond to some of it.
00:11Andrew Barry was asked about Deshaun Watson's future
00:14with the Cleveland Browns.
00:16Andrew said he's really not going to rule anything out.
00:19Are you open to giving him a contract extension?
00:22Yeah, I think everything's on the table.
00:25I think it would be silly to go into a season and say,
00:29hey, something absolutely can or cannot happen.
00:31I think particularly at the quarterback position, we've seen it with guys,
00:34whether it's Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones or Geno Smith or even Baker.
00:40I think you have to be open-minded and flexible,
00:42but I wouldn't rule out anything.
00:44We're looking for guys who can perform and who can lead.
00:47I think it's a fair comment.
00:48I'm not the world's biggest Deshaun Watson fan by any means necessary,
00:51and I think everybody knows that,
00:53but just because I think that this has been –
00:57excuse me, because common sense and being in the real world
01:02tells you that this has been everything, including a disaster,
01:07in every way you could describe the word for the Browns,
01:11just because it's been a disaster
01:13doesn't mean I'm completely turned off to the future.
01:15Now, I'll point this out.
01:17I think it's unrealistic.
01:18The conversation of him having some sort of an extension with the Browns,
01:24I just find it to be an unrealistic conversation.
01:26I'm sorry.
01:27Now, I know I raised a lot of hell on Thursday
01:30because we got reports from beat reporters on the radio
01:35that were saying that both quarterbacks have struggled.
01:38And I'm like – people, for whatever reason, thought I was reporting.
01:41I was like, guys, I haven't been there.
01:41I'm only going by the reports.
01:42And the whole point is, if they're both going to struggle,
01:45this was the point I laid out.
01:48If he's struggling this much, I imagine it's going to get probably worse
01:52when they put pads and helmets on and get going after each other.
01:56Or when he gets thrown into the fray in a game,
01:59it's probably not going to be very good.
02:01Now, maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I don't think I will be.
02:04And so, yeah, it's a conversation to have.
02:06If he were to go out there and throw for 3,500 yards,
02:09a bunch of touchdowns, very few picks,
02:12he puts them in a position to win some games,
02:14they end up finishing with maybe a 9-win record or something like that,
02:17then, yeah, yes, it's a conversation to be had.
02:20I just don't think those things are going to happen.
02:22For me, I thought about this, and I used the term next to impossible,
02:26and the only part I would –
02:29You guys had this conversation after you had them on Friday?
02:31A little bit, yeah, but the only part I would circle the next to part,
02:35and the only reason I'm not saying it's outright impossible,
02:38is because I'm trying to allow, in the recesses of my mind,
02:44I'm trying to at least allow there to be a remote opportunity
02:49or chance that Todd Munkin has some Munkin magic
02:53that we're sitting there like the stuff we say about McVay all the time, right?
02:59That maybe Munkin magic can wear off,
03:02and he has that ability to get the best,
03:05whatever the best could possibly be of Deshaun Watson now,
03:08that there is a chance over time that now,
03:11because we're past OTAs in minicamp.
03:14Now we've got this off time.
03:16Then we get into training camp.
03:17I think that's dangerous.
03:18I really think it's dangerous.
03:20It's dangerous.
03:21I think you hit – for yourself.
03:23I mean, you can do whatever you want.
03:24Not in your –
03:25I think for your own thoughts.
03:26I just said next to impossible.
03:27Next to impossible, yeah.
03:28So you're just saying impossible.
03:30Basically, yeah.
03:31I think it's – well, it's not – nothing's impossible,
03:34but I think it's just –
03:34So you'd say next to impossible.
03:36Next to impossible.
03:39Fair point.
03:40Okay.
03:40Fair point.
03:42Well said.
03:42But it's – okay.
03:43Well said.
03:44We're both in the unlikely camp.
03:46Holy unlikely.
03:47Yeah, but I feel I'd need to make it like a more unlikely than you –
03:50Like, I just don't think it's very realistic whatsoever.
03:53And I think that if there are some people who have hinged that thought,
03:56then they're going to try to put everything on Kevin Stefanski.
04:00It's like, well, we did see him do better with one guy,
04:04and that was Baker Mayfield coming from 2019 to 2020
04:06for a million different reasons that people could bring up.
04:10It didn't end well with Kevin Stefanski, certainly,
04:12or it wouldn't have ended, clearly.
04:14But I think that if you're –
04:16I just think it's completely unrealistic,
04:18and I'm not going to put my mind into it.
04:20Like, I can bring myself to think that, yeah,
04:23Shador Sanders has some sort of a shot to stay on as a quarterback here,
04:27even though I just don't think it's very realistic that either quarterback –
04:31they made their move for a reason.
04:32They did this for a reason when it comes to Miles Garrett,
04:34and we know what it is.
04:35I still think even though you got Jared Verse back,
04:38and Jared Verse is a fine player,
04:39but you've made an admission about what you really think of your team right now
04:44in terms of being competitors when it comes to that quarterback room.
04:48So when they said it so publicly –
04:50because I think if they felt they had a chance,
04:52they weren't going to trade the best player.
04:54No matter.
04:54They weren't going to do it.
04:55Because teams that have chances aren't doing that.
04:58Like, the Rams aren't going to turn right around and do something like that.
05:01They're in it to win it.
05:02We're not there yet.
05:03Hopefully we will be someday.
05:04So that admission there tells me that, yeah,
05:08they're a ways off,
05:09and they feel that they need to do these things
05:11to put themselves in the best position to get that guy.
05:14I'm just more open-minded towards Shador Sanders than I am at Deshaun Watson.
05:17I've been through that conversation so many times.
05:20I'm done trying to even pretend anything to myself.
05:23It doesn't mean I'm going to take away from the past,
05:25but I'm done telling myself things to make myself feel any better about that situation.
05:31Yeah, and I've been there too,
05:33and I'm somebody who lobbied for Deshaun Watson.
05:36So for me to not really hold out any hope, any morsel of hope on this,
05:42should be pretty telling.
05:44In the end, like, hey, let's watch it.
05:46Let's watch it go down.
05:48Like, it's a quarterback competition.
05:49You hope the competition creates something better for both these guys
05:54as opposed to whatever the hell it was last year,
05:57which I think sabotaged all four guys involved in a big way.
06:03But for me to see a level of play that would lead to a contract extension
06:09or for him to even be in the mix for one more year?
06:13Yeah.
06:14How?
06:15I mean, how in the world?
06:16It would be unrealistic.
06:17Again, an unrealistic season.
06:18It would have to be the perfect storm of everything coming.
06:21Remember, he's going to turn 31 in September too.
06:24Now, that's 31 depending on the quarterback and the style of quarterback.
06:28Like, if it's a run-first quarterback, Cam Newton, 31 is different
06:32than somebody who's a, you know, trademark, pocket-style, comfortable,
06:41you know, hanging in there and throwing passes.
06:43Very different.
06:44And that's never really been Deshaun Watson.
06:46I did think it was very interesting that you guys asked this question
06:48to Andrew Barry yesterday because we have the question and the answer.
06:54I think he's had an excellent spring.
06:56I mean, the past eight to ten weeks, you know, as a rookie player
07:00and particularly a quarterback, you learn a lot your first year
07:03and especially if you don't start a full season.
07:05And I think he did a phenomenal job this offseason.
07:07That really started in January and February.
07:10And then certainly as we got into having, you know, real practices in May,
07:14his growth has been tremendous.
07:17All right.
07:17Apparently we have a miscommunication on the clip there.
07:19But there was a question that was asked of Andrew Barry of,
07:23were you disappointed when Miles showed up to the Rams OTAs?
07:27You dare want to ask that question, right?
07:29And he had said, no, not really.
07:30First off, he said he didn't notice it.
07:32We have the clip.
07:32Here's the clip.
07:34Well, one, I didn't actually notice that.
07:35I would imagine that's the case with like, okay, hey,
07:38you're learning a new scheme.
07:39I think what they had a week of OTAs practice.
07:41You're learning, you know, new building, new coaches, you know,
07:44new teammates, new system.
07:46You know, Miles has a pretty disciplined regimen that he does in Dallas.
07:49And he's done that for like the latter part of his career.
07:52We have a voluntary program.
07:53He was always in shape.
07:55That was never something that really bothered us.
07:56So what were you chuckling about there during that answer?
07:59They said new scheme.
08:00Sounded the exact same thing as us.
08:02Yeah, sounded a lot like us.
08:03No, not a new building.
08:05So had they have moved to like some nice college building somewhere else?
08:10But they're building new buildings over there.
08:11So it still could have been a new building,
08:13depending on what they were actually building out and building on.
08:16Okay, that tells me that there was definitely something there beforehand to me.
08:21I know everybody's acting like they were surprised,
08:24and we don't need to go over the dead horse anymore.
08:26The horse is basically buried, but you guys did just have him on on Friday.
08:29You had to ask the question.
08:31I understand that.
08:32But when he says that, no, I wasn't very surprised by that whatsoever.
08:35Like, I don't understand what is the problem of having that conversation
08:40and still saying, yes, we knew for quite some time.
08:42Because this is the team that, again, according to the articles coming out,
08:45we're going after him since 2022.
08:48So if they've been going after him for the last three years,
08:51you kind of have an idea and a relationship of what's going to go on with the LA Rams
08:55and that there was a conversation.
08:56So it would have been fine had you had done that, had you had been there.
09:00I get it's not surprising to do it, but the reasoning is like,
09:03well, that's all the same reasoning that we've had over this time to possibly bring him in.
09:07Now that pointed out, I can't go back on what I said,
09:10even though I did think it was per the usual that he did go to the OTAs
09:18and the things of that with the LA Rams that he did with the Cleveland Browns.
09:21I did think it was usual, but I didn't make a big deal of it with the Cleveland Browns
09:24and I have to stick to that because I didn't think if they would not have made the trade,
09:27if they would not have made the trade and he would have still came to the mandatory parts of things,
09:31we'd just be moving on with our lives.
09:34We might be talking about him at the next trade deadline halfway through the year,
09:36but we would have just moved on with our lives.
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