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John Collins and John McKinnon examine why failed prophecies often strengthen high-control religious movements instead of destroying them. They contrast fear-based prediction systems with the New Testament purpose of prophecy: edification, exhortation, comfort, and careful testing.
The discussion covers William Branham's 1933 prophecy claims, the 1977 prediction, the woman president prediction, the driverless car claim, the India meetings, the Los Angeles sinking prophecy, and the way followers reinterpret failed claims to preserve loyalty, identity, and belief.
00:00 Introduction: Testing Prophecy
04:14 Why Failed Prophecy Strengthens Movements
10:09 Prophecy, Fear, and Critical Thinking
13:00 Apocalyptic Groups and Failed Predictions
15:01 Branham’s 1977 Prediction
17:00 The Female President Prophecy
19:20 The 1933 Prophecies
24:14 Egg-Shaped Cars and Driverless Cars
28:40 Why the Car Prophecy Didn’t Matter
34:04 The India Vision and the 500,000 Claim
43:42 Other Failed Branham Prophecies
44:19 Los Angeles Sinking Prophecy
52:03 Why People Keep Believing
56:15 Closing Preview
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The discussion covers William Branham's 1933 prophecy claims, the 1977 prediction, the woman president prediction, the driverless car claim, the India meetings, the Los Angeles sinking prophecy, and the way followers reinterpret failed claims to preserve loyalty, identity, and belief.
00:00 Introduction: Testing Prophecy
04:14 Why Failed Prophecy Strengthens Movements
10:09 Prophecy, Fear, and Critical Thinking
13:00 Apocalyptic Groups and Failed Predictions
15:01 Branham’s 1977 Prediction
17:00 The Female President Prophecy
19:20 The 1933 Prophecies
24:14 Egg-Shaped Cars and Driverless Cars
28:40 Why the Car Prophecy Didn’t Matter
34:04 The India Vision and the 500,000 Claim
43:42 Other Failed Branham Prophecies
44:19 Los Angeles Sinking Prophecy
52:03 Why People Keep Believing
56:15 Closing Preview
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00:31Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research
00:40at william-branham.org, and with me I have my co-host, researcher, and friend, John McKinnon,
00:46the author of The Persuasive Preacher, The Gifted Prophet, and The Noble Politician.
00:51John, it's good to be back and to talk about all things prophetic.
00:55It's such a touchy subject whenever you talk to people.
00:59There are people who want to corner you and say,
01:03do you still believe in the gifts anytime that you question something that's fake?
01:08And I had a conversation just a few days ago with a person, and I said,
01:12it's like those bouncy castles with all the balls.
01:15If somebody were to throw a wiffle ball in there,
01:17and you're trying to find the wiffle ball among all of these other balls,
01:22it kind of reminds me of trying to find an authentic among all of the fakery that's happening
01:28in all of this movement.
01:29It's just a bouncy castle full of balls, right?
01:32But whenever I first started coming to terms with the fact that we were in a false religion,
01:39prophecy was a big part of it.
01:41And for me, I was going through a series of very traumatic life-changing events
01:47and doing some soul searching, and I started thinking about prophecy.
01:51And one of the first things that hit me,
01:54we had a series of prophecies that we were listening to repeated almost every sermon.
02:02I don't know how it was in your church, but very, very frequently,
02:05they would talk about either the seven prophecies of 1933 that Branham had
02:09or some other California sinking, whatever it was.
02:13They would talk about all these things, and they'd say,
02:15just look at the world around us.
02:16Don't you see X, Y, and Z?
02:18Well, I remember suddenly thinking one day, early in my escape in all of this,
02:24as I was trying to deprogram, what really did those prophecies mean to me?
02:29How did they impact me in any way?
02:31How did they help me?
02:33How did they comfort me?
02:34In fact, most of them were designed to make me scared.
02:39That was really what it was for.
02:41And as I'm reading the Bible over and over and over again,
02:44I'm reading passages like 1 Corinthians 14.3,
02:49whoever prophesies speaks to edification and exhortation and comfort.
02:54Well, I look back at the 1933 prophecies.
02:57What of this was comfort?
02:59But the thought that was really hitting me was, what of that mattered to me?
03:04Most of it, if you really think about the core of all of the prophecies,
03:09the focal point was the prophet, was William Branham.
03:13It was basically, see, I prophesied this, hear me.
03:17See, I prophesied this, hear me.
03:18In other words, there was nothing.
03:20See, I prophesied this, and now you get comfort.
03:24Now you get edification.
03:26None of it really matched what the Bible talks about as prophecy.
03:30But more to the point, we weren't allowed to test it.
03:33And 1 Thessalonians 5, it says,
03:37Don't despise prophesying.
03:40It says, Prove all things and hold fast to what is good.
03:44And I got to thinking about that.
03:46There was no door open to hold fast for what was good,
03:51because that also opens the door for,
03:54Well, don't hold fast to this if you disagree with it.
03:56You couldn't disagree with their prophecies, or you were a heretic, right?
04:00So for me, I had to reexamine prophecy.
04:03And anyway, it'll make for an interesting discussion today,
04:07because none of what we had was really biblical,
04:10and some of it was just trickery.
04:12So I'm glad to have you back.
04:14Thanks for coming back.
04:15So today we're going to continue on our discussion of false prophecies,
04:19Episode 8.
04:19This is Part 4 of the False Prophecies section.
04:23And we realize that these movements, religious, ideological movements,
04:30they arise out of these prophetic claims a lot of times.
04:34They predict a divine intervention,
04:37either world-changing events going to happen,
04:40and appointed moments in time that has been prophesied in the Bible.
04:45But when such prophecies fail,
04:48the outside observers often assume the movements will just go away and dissolve,
04:53and quickly go away.
04:55But we find out in history that it shows over and over again
05:00that many groups survive failed prophecy.
05:03And they not only survive, but they eventually grow stronger because of it.
05:06So trying to understand why this happens in examining some of these prophecies,
05:11which are very clear to us that they're failures,
05:16it's understanding how they reinterpret the failure, I think, is the key,
05:20and how they preserve their own identities
05:23in the face of this public contradiction of the whole prophecy.
05:27So why do they retain false prophecies?
05:30The prediction is rarely treated as a forecast or even a prophecy sometimes.
05:36But the failed prophecy becomes a test of their faith in the group,
05:41their loyalty to the group,
05:42and their perceived spiritual insight.
05:46Believers are taught that understanding the prophecy requires a revelation.
05:51You can't reason it out with your ordinary reasoning.
05:54You know, as a result, when a prophecy fails,
05:57you know, the failure is not interpreted as an error.
05:59You know, it's just a misunderstanding.
06:01You just didn't understand it correctly.
06:05Many groups, they redefine it after the fact.
06:08And we went over some of those last time.
06:10You know, a physical or a visible event that's supposed to happen
06:13can be reinterpreted over and over as invisible, spiritual, delayed, conditional.
06:19We found that with the Brown Bear vision of William Branham's.
06:23It was conditional.
06:23He just wasn't there at the right place at the right time for it to happen.
06:28So he missed shooting the bear.
06:32This process just allows everybody to affirm
06:35that the prophecy actually was real and it was fulfilled,
06:38just not in the way you're trying to say it is,
06:40and not in the way we expected it to be.
06:43So in this way, they preserve their belief and their identity within the group.
06:46It doesn't require their admission that the prophecy was false at all.
06:51And that's why these things are so strong.
06:55So people stay because their commitment is not to the doctrine so much
07:00as it is relational and emotional within the group.
07:03You know, eventually doctrine doesn't matter so much.
07:07The Bible doesn't matter so much as your personal friendships
07:10and your family within the group that you don't want to leave.
07:13The group has identity.
07:16It provides your purpose for living, your belonging, your purpose,
07:21your meaning in life even.
07:23So leaving it can mean losing your family, friends,
07:26your certainty in your spiritual life,
07:28and even your sense of self.
07:30It's very costly.
07:31And psychologically, you know, admitting something that's false
07:35creates very much intense internal conflict within you.
07:39And so to avoid that, you just double down on your belief that,
07:43you know, the prophecy did come to pass but not in the way I expected
07:46and greater faith is needed, you know, to overcome this.
07:51And the response is very well documented in all these groups
07:54that do have this happen.
07:56The leaders are often framed continued loyalty as proof of your true faith.
08:03So that's even after the person made the prophecy is gone,
08:07you know, the leaders that are remaining look at you as being –
08:12your faith is only true if you remain with us
08:15and continue to believe in face of all these contradictions.
08:19The outside world, of course, would view the group as being deluded
08:24and deceptive, manipulative.
08:27And with critical thinking, that tends to be how it plays out.
08:32Critics focus on the accuracy of the prediction,
08:34assuming that failure should easily discredit the leader
08:38and discredit the movement, dissolve the group.
08:41But we as outsiders now, we underestimate a lot of times
08:45the power of those internal narratives in people.
08:49You know, what appears to be irrational
08:52may feel totally coherent and morally necessary if you're within the group.
08:58And so this disconnect here, it leads to misunderstanding of the group sometimes
09:04and hostility between the group and the public.
09:07And as a result, many prophetic groups like this, they become increasingly isolated.
09:14And they interpret that outside criticism as persecution even.
09:18So, the leader who makes the false prophecies rarely rejected outright.
09:25You know, instead, they're portrayed as sincere, maybe misunderstood.
09:29They were divinely inspired, but they were humanly fallible.
09:33And their authority over the group is actually strengthened at that point
09:38as the loyalty to the group becomes your test of spiritual maturity.
09:46So, all these things tend to play into what we're talking about here and, you know,
09:50why groups persist.
09:51But I do want to go over some more prophecies that were very plain
09:57and why they did not come to pass, or not why they didn't come to pass,
10:00but clearly showing that they didn't come to pass.
10:03And so we'll go through these here shortly as we get into this, John.
10:07I know we've covered it in the previous episodes, but I want to reemphasize a point
10:13that you just brought up, the fact that whenever one of these prophecies turns out
10:18to be false and it fails, the group is actually strengthened, which is really odd
10:21if you think about the dynamics of just people in general.
10:25In all other aspects of life, if something turns out to be false or fraud,
10:29everybody turns their hands up and say, no, man, I don't want this.
10:33I don't want the fake thing.
10:34But in religion, because of the way it has been presented
10:37and because of the way that the people have been indoctrinated to accept it blindly,
10:42they just shut off all critical thinking.
10:45And, okay, it's false.
10:46Let's continue.
10:47Let's move on.
10:48But the thing of it is, like I said earlier,
10:51it really just comes down to the basic New Testament question.
10:54What is the prophecy supposed to do for the church?
10:58And, again, I'll stress this throughout the rest of this podcast.
11:01It's never really intended to cause fear.
11:04If you read the Bible and you understand what it says,
11:07you can test to it and hold fast to what is good.
11:09Don't hold fast to things that are causing you to be anxious and afraid and scared
11:14and give undue power to a person who's claiming these things.
11:20There are so many people that they hear the word prophecy
11:23and they immediately think prediction.
11:25And that is because these prophecies have been designed
11:29to put the focal point back on the person who's saying them.
11:32In other words, look, I told you this was going to happen.
11:36I remember having conversations when I was a kid with somebody who constantly said,
11:40I told you that was going to happen.
11:41And you just got so tired of it.
11:43And then to think that, yes, I was tired of it whenever I was in that setting,
11:47but when I go to church, I hear somebody that's doing it over and over behind the pulpit,
11:51and I just accepted it.
11:52Why did I do that?
11:54What all comes back to the indoctrination.
11:56People hear that and they just simply, they shut off their critical thinking.
12:00They think, okay, that was a prediction.
12:02He predicted it.
12:03This must be the guy.
12:05Instead of, well, I should probably test that.
12:09Nobody really stops and says, I should probably test that.
12:12And for me, the biggest test of all is, how does it help you?
12:16How does the prophecy impact your life?
12:19Does it make you afraid?
12:20Does it make you anxious?
12:21Are you having to go see therapists after leaving a group that's like this?
12:25Well, that's really what it comes down to.
12:27And again, to reemphasize, when the prophecy fails, and we'll get into some of these failure
12:33examples, it strengthens the church because they have just completely shunned all critical
12:38thinking.
12:39Yeah, John, you know, this, groups are just, they have a dynamic on their own, and they
12:44will persist, and they will double down, because, you know, people in general don't
12:49want to be wrong.
12:50And we see this over and over again.
12:52When you've made up your mind one way, it's too painful to reject that.
12:57And we find that true no matter how bad the group gets, actually, that they take it to
13:03their death.
13:04And we found that in the case of Jonestown.
13:07And most recently, you get into the Branch Davidians, which was just an offshoot of, you
13:12know, Seventh-day Adventism.
13:15That's where they had their roots.
13:16But that's one of the more recent ones that went into error and had a leader who claimed
13:21Revelation, actually claimed to be the Lamb of Revelation, and claimed to open the Seven
13:26Seals back in 1993, and right before their compound was destroyed.
13:32But it resulted in the siege back in 93 of Waco, in Waco, Texas.
13:39It ended in a terrible disaster.
13:41But we see that some of these groups can, with apocalyptic claims and isolationism and
13:47communes, they tend to end very destructively at times.
13:50So I'm sort of thankful in one way the message movement overall hasn't done that.
13:57They have independent churches.
13:59But there are cases, we know, in groups that did form communes that ended in disaster, such
14:05as the trailer park, say, in Arizona, Colonia, Dignidad, and others.
14:10So it's not without, it could happen at any time.
14:15So it pays to look at the history of these things, so we can be very aware of them.
14:22There was another one that was part of the Davidian movement, Shepherd's Rod.
14:26It was another offshoot.
14:27But in 1959, they prophesied the establishment of a kingdom in Palestine.
14:33Of course, that failed.
14:34Well, modern day Adventist influence, state speculation, independent teachers have established
14:411988 as being the 40 years after Israel was declared a state as being something significant
14:48happening.
14:49One person stated the rapture was going to occur.
14:52Year 2000 was millennium expectations.
14:56And even in more recent times, the blood moon prophecies.
14:59And none of that failed to materialize anything of significance.
15:04So I'm going to get into one thing here that William Branham taught in 1977, of course.
15:12He said, you know, most people, some people thought there was no more grace after 1963.
15:18You know, Branham never really said that.
15:20But people inferred that based on what he said in his sermons.
15:25But since that time, there's been many date setters in the message.
15:30And his most famous one was 1977, because he said, as a private student of the word with
15:35multitudes of visions, and he claimed none had ever failed.
15:39He said, you know, let me predict that this age will end in 1977.
15:43And he put a disclaimer on there.
15:45I'm not prophesying, but I'm predicting.
15:48That was in the church ages.
15:50So the quote shows his own predictive statement that the age would end around 1977.
15:56It had a lot of stirring among believers.
15:59And in that time, these statements are ignored today, but they just never materialize.
16:06Just like every time we get close to a presidential election and possibly electing that woman president,
16:12you know, message believers are eager to say that this is the one that he prophesied about.
16:17But then when it doesn't happen, you know, it turns out to be a flop.
16:20They just ignore everything.
16:21They just predict it.
16:23And that'll continue until one day we maybe will have maybe a woman president.
16:28Then it'll become statements like after she comes and goes, it'll be like, well, she's not the one,
16:33but there's one coming that can go on.
16:37And that'll go on long after we're probably gone, John, maybe.
16:40But, you know, it's going to continue.
16:41They find ways to reinterpret the prophecies, you know, even though they've never come to pass.
16:48And by this time, many years has gone by.
16:49People spent their productive lives in something, you know, that tends to be a waste.
16:56And I hate to see that for the ones in the movement today, John.
17:00And the female president prediction, I'm calling it prediction and not prophecy.
17:04You'll see why in a minute.
17:05It's actually a very clear example of what I said earlier about prophecies that point to the leader for the
17:12sole purpose of elevating, lifting, giving authority to the leader.
17:17It actually benefits me in no way, shape or form, whether the gender of the president is male or female.
17:23I really could care less.
17:25What it does is if you take all of the doctrines that he linked to that, it turns you politically
17:32inspired to vote against a specific party.
17:35If you understood the context of what he said during the era that he said it, he was trying very
17:41hard to push politics and religion.
17:43That's why he was doing this.
17:44And if you read everything he says, it is a prediction because he's literally guessing that something is going to
17:51happen.
17:51But what's odd is he has to change it so much that the female president prophecy he said was fulfilled
17:58with John F. Kennedy until Kennedy died.
18:01And then it changed again.
18:02And people are scratching his head saying, wait, wait a minute.
18:05John F. Kennedy was a male, not a female.
18:07Well, the way that this works is if you throw out a prediction, and in this case, he's got a
18:1350-50 chance.
18:14Throw out a prediction and you get a 50 chance of being male or female.
18:19Well, what he realized was that it's not likely to happen because there are just too many people who would
18:26vote against a female person.
18:28Maybe let's change it a bit.
18:29And he says, well, maybe it's a vice president.
18:31And then he says, eventually, maybe it's the Catholic Church.
18:34Well, then he tried to say it was JFK because JFK was Catholic.
18:38And it's just, it's this circular reasoning.
18:41Like you said, it's, you know, you get it wrong.
18:44Well, people just double down and then you change it.
18:47Get it wrong again, double down, change.
18:49And it's this vicious cycle that will continue throughout eternity because these cults will always survive and exist.
18:56So, for me, I have to take it back to does it edify the church?
19:00Does it do anything for me?
19:03And, in fact, I have the decision, if you read the Bible and understand what the Bible says, I have
19:09the decision to say simply, I don't care about that prophecy.
19:12You can talk about it all you want.
19:14Don't talk about it in my church.
19:16I don't want to hear it in my church because it does nothing for me.
19:19So, John, I want to zero in because what you said is very true, and I want to zero in
19:26now on William Branham's 1933 prophecies.
19:30You know, he did claim he had seven major predictions that would unfold before the end.
19:36And among these predictions that were commonly cited was Mussolini would invade Ethiopia.
19:43He would meet a violent end.
19:47One said that Hitler would lead the world into war, and another one said that Franklin Roosevelt would lead the
19:54world into war.
19:55A woman would rise to power, a great destruction of America, a car without a steering wheel, and the end
20:03of age would occur around 1977.
20:05So, we got all these things happening, and I'll read you the actual quote here.
20:11But we're going to find that there's many contradictions within these statements, but those are basically the seven, you know,
20:17major visions that he said he had.
20:19But interestingly, you know, he didn't really speak about these on tape until a long, long time after, you know,
20:281933.
20:29And in fact, it might have been 1960 or so.
20:33So, but all these things had a background that we're maybe not aware of, which will bring to light here.
20:39So, John, I'd like to focus on these 1933 prophecies.
20:44So, it was very late after they supposedly were written down or spoken that he really started talking about these.
20:52And so, by the time he started talking about these, very hard to go back and figure out, did he
20:57really say these things in 1933 or not?
21:01So, in 1960, he preached a message, Condemnation by Representation, and he said he'd like to read a prophecy that
21:07was given.
21:09And he says, he's got, by the way, Mr. Mercer, some of them are going to take some of these
21:13old prophecies, dig them out, revise them a little, bring them up to date, put them in papers.
21:18And he said, I'd like to read for you this one first.
21:21I'd like to read something to you.
21:24And he says, 1932, listen to this, I was on my way, getting waited for church this morning.
21:30It came to pass, I fell into a vision.
21:32So, he says, I speak these things in the name of the Lord.
21:37And then the first thing he said was the president, which now is, Franklin Roosevelt, now remember, 28 years ago,
21:43he said, will cause the whole world to go to war.
21:47So, that was one thing, and we'll get into what Franklin Roosevelt and how this is actually contradicted in his
21:53later book called The Church Ages.
21:56But then he also says, the next vision foretold that an Austrian by the name of Adolf Hitler would rise
22:04up as dictator over Germany.
22:05He would draw the world into war.
22:08So, already, you've got a contradiction there.
22:12I guess, why he said Franklin Roosevelt and why the prophecy was written down that way and later changed, you
22:19know, I do not know.
22:21Other than maybe because Leevale compiled the Church Age books and felt it was more accurate to put Adolf Hitler
22:27in there, which it is.
22:29I mean, and another one that he mentions, he says, as a new dictator of Italy, Mussolini shall make his
22:37first invasion towards Ethiopia.
22:38He will take it, but that will be his last.
22:41He'll come to his end.
22:43So, in this prediction, he's predicting that Mussolini is going to make one move to Ethiopia, and that's going to
22:48be it.
22:49But we find out, and Mussolini didn't really end after that invasion.
22:55Well, the actual events that happened after his conquest of Ethiopia,
22:59He enjoyed a temporary boost in prestige, proclaiming an actual Italian empire in May of 1936.
23:08And then this victory in Ethiopia was costly to him, of course, but it was not until 1945 that he
23:14was actually executed.
23:16A lot of things happened between then and the time he was executed, though.
23:21So, they actually had the Rome-Berlin Axis, Italy intervened in the Spanish Civil War.
23:27They sent troops.
23:28In 1939, he signed a pact of steel with Hitler, a full military alliance, and invaded Albania and annexed it
23:37easily.
23:38So, he had other military conquests after Ethiopia.
23:42So, it really wasn't as simple as he was trying to make it out in the prophecy that he invaded
23:47Ethiopia, then he died.
23:49So, people will find a way to explain that away, though, and say, well, he was right in the fact
23:54that Mussolini died, and he did invade Ethiopia.
23:59If, in fact, he did say it in 1933.
24:03So, really, allies eventually invaded Italy, and that's when Mussolini, after he fled away, he was eventually executed.
24:12So, a lot of things happened.
24:14It wasn't as simple as, say, the vision, you know, stated.
24:18He also mentioned the one about the egg-shaped cars, science progressing and having egg-shaped cars by eventually showing
24:28that car running down the highway without a steering wheel.
24:31So, it's kind of interesting to note that in Jeffersonville, in newspapers of 1933, there was articles about egg-shaped
24:38cars in the papers, and cars should begin to take on egg-shaped.
24:43So, it's not very unusual that he would come out later with a prophecy saying cars will look like egg
24:49-shaped.
24:50He said, finally, they'll build one without a steering wheel, and he said they've got it now, controlled by some
24:56other power.
24:56Now, he spoke this in 1960.
25:03When he spoke this, there was already an article in Time in 1956 that showed a car that looked similar
25:10to what he was describing.
25:11It didn't have a steering wheel.
25:13People were in the back playing checkers.
25:17And now you wouldn't think kids are going to be there with their iPhones or PlayStations or whatever versus playing
25:25checkers in the back of a car.
25:27So, I don't think that prophecy is going to be fulfilled exactly as what he saw.
25:32But, you know, the interesting part of this whole thing is that by the time he was speaking this, there
25:38was already a picture of a car going down the highway without a steering wheel with people in the back
25:43doing the very thing he's talked about in a vision in Time magazine.
25:48So, the earliest time I can see where he spoke about egg-shaped cars, and he didn't mention no steering
25:54wheel at that time until after the Time magazine came out.
25:58That was around 1953.
26:00Here's what he said here.
26:01He said, just before that time comes, that automobiles, which was built, oh, straight back 20 years ago, 25 years
26:06ago.
26:06You remember 20 years.
26:08Anyhow, I said they'll look like an egg.
26:10They'll be shaped.
26:11That's a vision.
26:12Be something on the shape like that.
26:14And that's the way it'll be just before the rapture.
26:16But he didn't say anything about, you know, having no steering wheel, playing checkers in the back of the car
26:22until the Church Age book came out, and that was well after this article in Time magazine, which showed the
26:29car.
26:31So, these things are just the tip of the iceberg.
26:34You know, we could go through line by line in exact detail, but we don't have a lot of time
26:39to do that.
26:40But these were supposed to be seven visions written down in 1933, although there's no old papers produced, ever shown,
26:49where we're seeing this evidence where they were actually done.
26:52I agree they may have been written down, but whether they were ever written down in 1933 or not, I
26:57don't know, because Mr. Mercer and Mr. Goad were constantly revising the prophecies, probably.
27:03But nothing proves it was spoken before the time that he was speaking it there.
27:07There's no evidence of that, and in these specific visions, you know, you always find something in the newspapers or
27:14magazines that showed what these visions were prior to the time he spoke about it.
27:20But these are just examples of how these things were spoken.
27:25Now, nowadays, we try to explain them away, or we try to see that the driverless cars that are happening
27:31now is a fulfillment of that, although there's no way you can play checkers.
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28:41You know, growing up, I was a car enthusiast, and I'm an artist, so I was actually drawing several pictures
28:48in my sketchbook of these old-timey cars.
28:50And if you remember the really old ones from the, you know, 1920s, 1930s, it was this really block-style
28:57vehicle, and they began to shift over time.
28:59They became a little bit more rounded edges, etc.
29:03Well, I was drawing this at a time whenever I was working with my father.
29:08We were rebuilding Corvettes constantly, and I remember looking at the sleek, aerodynamic design of the—we were usually working on
29:161980s Corvettes.
29:18And it was just low-profile.
29:19It was sleek.
29:20It was aerodynamic.
29:22And I remember seeing the Ford Taurus.
29:24I saw a white one drive by.
29:26And back then in the 80s, the Ford Taurus was also more rounded edges, more—it looked like a rounded brick
29:33going down the road.
29:34In my opinion, it was a little bit ugly.
29:36But I remember thinking and comparing those two, well, look at that.
29:41Cars are becoming more and more shaped like an egg.
29:43William Branham got the prophecy right.
29:46But there were so many things that I didn't know.
29:48And even as an auto enthusiast, I didn't know this.
29:51I did not know that as early as 1916, they were talking about egg-shaped cars in the newspapers.
29:58I found actually on the website—you can look at some of the articles I have—this was nothing new in 1933.
30:05In fact, if somebody in 1933 were to have heard him say,
30:10I prophesy that cars would become shaped by an egg,
30:13somebody would just simply call him out outside the service and say,
30:16Man, you read that from the newspapers.
30:18What are you talking about?
30:20Everybody knows this.
30:22And he talks about going to the World's Fair.
30:24Well, at the World's Fair, they had a literal egg.
30:26Like, the car was actually shaped like an egg on display.
30:31It's called the Dymaxion, I think it is.
30:33And the car actually in the 1933 World's Fair turned over and burned because egg's not a good design.
30:40It's also top-heavy, so it's going to flip over.
30:43Well, it did, and it caught fire.
30:45And cars began to shift and change.
30:47And they did become more aerodynamic, but that was way back in the 30s.
30:52It wasn't something that happened towards what he would call or consider the end time, especially 1977.
30:59If you really look at the timeline, fast forward to 1977, the year that he's talking about, this is when
31:07it's all going to end.
31:08Well, cars in the 70s became bigger and blockier, and they kind of reverted back from aerodynamics to this big
31:15muscle car style that was really blocky.
31:18Think 19, what was that, 1968, the Charger and the Dukes of Hazzard.
31:23Big old block car.
31:25It looks nothing like an egg, right?
31:26Well, that's because they were going back towards the muscles, muscle cars.
31:31Well, now it's shifting again, and it's becoming rounded and more edges.
31:35And people are saying, oh, look, the prophecy.
31:37And they don't know the history of automobiles, right?
31:39And they also don't know that this happened long before he said they also don't know most of the Branhamites
31:45don't know that that prophecy changed after he visited another World's Fair to the one that you're talking about.
31:51It will be self-driving, and they'll be sitting there playing checkers.
31:55They actually had that vehicle at the World's Fair in Seattle, which Branham attended.
31:59And like you said, it was all over the newspapers and articles, advertisements for some, I can't remember the name,
32:08but it was an electric company advertisement that was being pushed.
32:12Long story short, the prophecy that he had had no bearing whatsoever on my salvation.
32:18I came to terms with that early 2012.
32:23That was my favorite prophecy because I was a car enthusiast.
32:26And I started thinking, that was really foolish of me.
32:30It doesn't really matter to me in one way, shape, or form the shape of a vehicle.
32:35The only thing that it did was point my mind to him as the prophet who said it.
32:41It didn't edify me.
32:42It didn't help me.
32:43It didn't prepare me.
32:45There was absolutely nothing scriptural about this prophecy.
32:48There was nothing that satisfied the Bible descriptions of what prophecies are supposed to be according to New Testament prophecy.
32:57And I became suddenly aware that's why he was pushing the idea of an old covenant prophet, not a New
33:04Testament prophet.
33:06And there was this blurred line between the two because what he wanted to become essentially was he wanted to
33:12become a prophet leader and he wanted to become a prophet.
33:16Basically, a prophet Messiah is what he was pushing.
33:19We'll get into that probably in the future.
33:21But nothing about it was New Testament.
33:24And I started to have to learn the covenants.
33:27Why there's an old covenant?
33:29Why the Old Testament they were living under old covenant law?
33:33What was the difference between old covenant law and grace?
33:36And why would a New Testament prophet need to be different than an old covenant prophet?
33:41They weren't messengers of the covenant, right?
33:44Well, Branham wanted to be a messenger of the covenant.
33:46And in the end, what he was doing was he was taking people away from the gospel and pointing them
33:51back to the law.
33:53We can go on and on, like I said, for days and days with these visions and just show how
34:00each one, pick them apart.
34:02Because we really want to know the truth.
34:04We want to lay them side by side with reality.
34:05But one of the most striking ones that I will mention, and I've always, after I've studied this in depth,
34:12you know, it really is striking to me that it's a very strong example of failed prophecy.
34:18But it was the India trip.
34:20You know, it was supposed to have 300,000 people saved during that time.
34:25And even in the India vision, you know, it wasn't very clear whether it was supposed to be Africa or
34:31India.
34:32It turned out to be neither.
34:34But, you know, he did mention it was strongly related to India.
34:39That's where he thought it was.
34:42So pictures shown from that trip, it shows that the church, you know, that he preached in wasn't even full.
34:48You know, he was resisted by the churches in the area from having the meetings when he finally got to
34:53have the meetings.
34:54And he even blamed a woman preacher for him being unpopular when he arrived.
35:00But he began to make vague statements after that about putting the crowd size being estimated at a half a
35:06million.
35:07And he always put it off on the mayor of Bombay as saying that.
35:11So he never had to say it was him saying it.
35:14It was somebody else saying it.
35:16So that's how this thing came about.
35:19But look at how he described it here in the Second Coming, 1955.
35:26He said, in India, just get ready to believe anything when you go to India almost.
35:30I've never seen such confusion in my life.
35:33So they told me I'd have to not get out in the open.
35:37But we would have to stand beside because his sister calls trouble.
35:41He's talking about the woman preacher.
35:42And we would have a church, would have to be held in a church, for they could not give protection
35:47out there.
35:48But they would if it would be in a church and manage it.
35:52And the mayor himself told me there was 500,000 people in the city had come there for the healing
35:57service for the meeting.
35:58And you can imagine what would be in the streets of Bombay.
36:02And they had a great big church there.
36:04I don't know.
36:04It was some kind of Episcopal church.
36:06Way away, two times the size of this auditorium.
36:093,000 people max, I would say.
36:12And a great big yard out there in front would cover half an acre.
36:15And there were these microphones.
36:17And the people were there for block after block.
36:19And they had patrol cars run up there with these walkie-talkies trying to make room for me to come
36:23in an automobile to get to a place where we're going to pray for the sick.
36:27He said, you've never seen such in your life.
36:29People will be stacked like cordwood on one on top of another.
36:34Now, the way he described this, nothing's real definite about it.
36:38It's always, we couldn't have it in the open air.
36:42It would have to be held in a church for protection.
36:44And then the mayor himself told me that half a million came for the meeting.
36:49We don't know that to be true.
36:52And he just kept saying, building the image up in people's minds.
36:55He says, you can imagine what that would be in the streets of Bombay.
36:59But nothing real definite there.
37:01And he said they had a great big church there.
37:04You know, big churches, I don't know.
37:06I would estimate if you could get 3,000 people in a church, you've got a big crowd.
37:11But I doubt it was that big by the pictures we've seen, you know, of that meeting.
37:16And then he had to say there was some great big yard out in front, about a half acre, where
37:21all the people could sit.
37:23Well, a half acre, if you measure a half acre, that's about 2,000 square meters.
37:29And extreme, say, mosh pit density people, which is dangerous, dangerous.
37:34I looked this up.
37:35Only about 8,000 or 9,000 people could fit there, you know, in a half acre.
37:42It's not recommended because there's a high extreme for crush risk.
37:46So how can 8,000 people even be even close to a half a million?
37:53You know, there's just no way that could even happen.
37:56The physics of this cannot take place as to what he's describing here.
38:00I still get contacted from people about that, saying, well, that prophecy came true.
38:05Because they have to defend it.
38:07It is the only prophecy that William Branham openly admitted to have failed.
38:11And then he later would say things like, if you ever find one single detail wrong with a prophecy, you
38:16can hang a sign on my back that says, false prophet.
38:19Well, whenever you do that, when you actually hang the sign on his back like we've done, you get this
38:24outcry from the people saying, no, we disagree that William Branham admitted it has failed.
38:29That's how strong the mind control is in this type of thing.
38:34They just have to uplift it no matter what.
38:37And India prophecy is a good example because there is no way possible, like you said, just thinking logically, there's
38:45no way that it could happen.
38:46But the fact that he admitted it didn't happen, that should be enough for people to just say, okay, this
38:52guy's not a prophet.
38:52So if you remember back in that sermon he preached in 1955 called The Second Coming that we talked about,
38:59he said they had a great big church there, I don't know, some kind of Episcopal church, way away two
39:03times the size of this auditorium.
39:05So as I described this auditorium he was preaching in, you could get about 1,500 people if you put
39:12them in their theater style comfortably.
39:16So you're only talking about 3,000 people max.
39:19But he's talking about half a million people or lots of people coming to this meeting.
39:25So we see that even if he says, well, the church was about twice the size of this one, you
39:29can't get that many people there.
39:32What would it take for a half million people to really be in an area?
39:37For safe, comfortable densities of a half million, you're talking about 62 acres.
39:43For a moderate density, you need about 31 acres.
39:47For very, very high density, you still need 20 acres.
39:51Extreme, which means it's very unsafe, you need 10 to 12 acres.
39:56So an outdoor gathering, you plant on 50 to 100 acres total to allow space for movement, emergency access, and
40:04view in the church centrally.
40:06So we see that these pictures we have, we don't have any pictures of the outside where he even had
40:14that many people.
40:14But it's kind of strange, you look at South Africa meetings, and you have pictures all around of those meetings.
40:22And you see there was only 75,000 people maybe there at that racetrack.
40:27But we're talking about a half million people here.
40:30So you need a much larger venue.
40:32But then there's no pictures of that.
40:34No, there's not.
40:35And that's something that really should make people just pause and think.
40:38Because he's saying things like, there are going to be tens of thousands times 10,000 saved.
40:42You're going to read it when I come back in the newspapers.
40:45Well, nobody did.
40:46Nobody read it.
40:46But more to the point, like you just said, you look through any of the photographs, nothing matches what he's
40:51talking about.
40:53If it did happen, you can be sure that with the campaign team that was there, they would have had
40:581,000 photographs.
40:59And you'd read about it in Voice of Healing.
41:01You'd read about it on the front walls of every church, man, because this was a proven prophecy had it
41:07happened.
41:07The problem is it just simply didn't happen.
41:10You know, when he first came back, I think he was a little heavy hearted because the meetings just weren't
41:14what they should have been.
41:16And there was a couple of instances where he alluded to that.
41:20In 1957, India Trip Report in January, he said,
41:24And when I had been very much constrained to go to India, he said,
41:28And yet, as many of you might know, the Indian trip wasn't the success it should have been.
41:34Because I failed to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, never recognized it,
41:38after he gave me a vision to go to Africa first and then to India.
41:42So he has to start explaining this vision in a way that was so spectacular to him that,
41:48that, well, now I failed to vision and it didn't come to pass because I did something wrong.
41:55So, but he admits that it's not a very good success.
41:59And we've shown that with the church he was in, can only hold at most, say, 3,000 people.
42:04And then the venue for the streets in Bombay in a city,
42:10you'd have to have 60 acres of open land just to get the people there.
42:13So even if they line the streets up and down,
42:16there's no way you could get 500,000 people there with all the buildings and things that's in the city.
42:22So then he turns around a year later in January of 58
42:27and then starts proclaiming how great the meetings were.
42:30So then he says,
42:31I had the privilege just the last couple of years of having one of the greatest meetings
42:36the Lord ever let me have in Bombay, India.
42:39So for whatever reason, he changes his tune and he starts telling people that he had the greatest meeting he
42:47ever had.
42:47This was in January of 58 in a message called The Called Out.
42:51In 1961, he continues on stating this time and time again.
42:56Not the only time, of course.
42:57There's many, many times he says this, but I'll read another quote.
43:00He says,
43:01Was you in Africa that time, brother?
43:03Was you there?
43:04No, India?
43:04Oh, yeah.
43:05Well, maybe I get a chance to speak of India.
43:07Was you there when I was in India?
43:09Not there.
43:10That's where I had my greatest gathering at Bombay, 500,000 at one time.
43:16So, you see, he really believed, I guess, at some point that he had the greatest meeting he ever had,
43:23whereas the other time he said it was not the success that he should have had.
43:27And we don't have any pictures other than the one in the church where he definitely said he was inside
43:32of a church,
43:33and we do have those pictures that show the meeting wasn't very large.
43:38So, it's hard to believe that that was a vision that actually came to pass.
43:41You know, a few others I'll mention won't go into detail, except the killing of the brown bear.
43:46Of course, we know that didn't happen.
43:48Planning to fulfill the tent vision.
43:50The bridge prophecy, even, that was supposed to have been one that he saw and the men died off of.
43:55So, that's been truly shown that it was not, you know, a true prophecy because it didn't happen.
44:01And it was definitely not the way he described it in detail.
44:05Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt that a bridge was built,
44:08it definitely was not according to the way he described it with the number of men that died.
44:13Another very important one is that's not come to pass yet.
44:18And I wonder if this will not be the silver bullet, will be the destruction of Los Angeles.
44:24Because already we've seen as time has gone on, you know, Los Angeles hasn't sunk beneath the ocean
44:31and has not come to pass as he, as Billy Paul has related it,
44:36was supposed to come to pass while he was still alive.
44:38And sharks were supposed to be swimming in downtown Los Angeles while he was still alive.
44:44But now that he's gone on, people are quietly dismissing that prophecy in some way.
44:49But he spoke it as a, thus saith the Lord.
44:52This was in 1965, November, works as faith expressed.
44:57He said, California, Los Angeles will sink.
45:00It's going down.
45:01She'll slide right into the ocean.
45:03And then he talks about the Alaskan earthquake.
45:06He said, I didn't know nothing happened until I got on the street.
45:09It told, it told, which he's talking about the angel now.
45:12It told California.
45:14Said, Capernaum, Capernaum, the city that's called by the name of the angels, that's Los Angeles.
45:18You've exalted yourself into heaven, but you'll be brought down into hell.
45:22He said, now the last few days, it's a great roaring and popping.
45:26Then here come a paper of science.
45:28Said, it's all honeycombed.
45:29It's got to go under.
45:31They just know it.
45:32And you watched, the water will come plumbed back into the Salton Sea.
45:36Los Angeles is doomed for judgment.
45:37I tell you before it happens that you might know when it does happen.
45:41I never spoke that by myself.
45:43I never heard him.
45:45I've never had him to tell me one thing but what happened.
45:49And you can bear record of that.
45:51That's right.
45:51When?
45:51I don't know.
45:53He said it again in December of 1965.
45:57Do you know what the Lord says about Los Angeles, these places here?
46:00She's gone.
46:01You remember what I told you about two years ago?
46:04He said, church, you're doomed.
46:06Not only California, you're doomed.
46:07Church, unless you get right with God, you're doomed.
46:09Thus saith the Holy Spirit.
46:12So, he's definitely made this a prophecy.
46:14And so, I hope message people will certainly take a look at this very hard because he's only going by
46:23scientific papers that are saying at the time, you know, a lot of people have conjectured that California could fall
46:30off.
46:30But the idea that Los Angeles or California will dramatically fall into the ocean is a myth.
46:37It's popularized by movies and misinformation that's out there because really, in reality, it's geologically impossible.
46:46And the way the plates are moving, Los Angeles sits on a boundary.
46:52There's a Pacific plate and a North American plate.
46:54So, Los Angeles is sliding past the North American plate.
46:59And the slip is only about one to two inches a year past each other.
47:04And it's called a strike-slip fault.
47:07Plates are moving horizontally past.
47:09Now, there can be earthquakes that happen along that boundary.
47:13But no significant vertical motion.
47:15There's no mechanism for large sections of land to suddenly drop or sink into the sea.
47:21Over a long period of time, you know, Los Angeles will continue to slide past and go up to San
47:27Francisco.
47:28But we're talking about a million years from now.
47:32And the ocean floor underneath it is a solid crystal plate.
47:35It's not a hole.
47:36And it's not a hole for land to fall into there.
47:41Earthquakes can cause intense shaking and lateral displacement side to side, but not catastrophic separation as we see in the
47:49movies.
47:50So, some sinking has occurred in Los Angeles, but this is due to groundwater extraction.
47:57And it's only been at the rates of a few millimeters or centimeters per year.
48:01You've got oil being pumped, groundwater extractions, natural sediment compaction over time.
48:06And, of course, that makes the sea levels rise somewhat and added inches to water levels increasing by 2050 in
48:16certain hot spots.
48:18And this gradual land lowering, it's not a sudden plunge into the ocean.
48:23So, the myth continues because earthquakes do happen in that city, and they can be pretty catastrophic.
48:30But the city is firmly placed on a continental crust, and it's going to stay there.
48:37It's not going to disintegrate and fall into the ocean.
48:42So, and there's also been reports of submarines traveling underneath Los Angeles, and that's also a myth.
48:51And just to pause and give some context for people who weren't in the Branham movement, and you hear this
48:57and you say, oh my gosh, Los Angeles, I recognize that.
49:00Well, you do.
49:01It's because there are people who, like in IHOPKC, John Paul Jackson, resurrected this idea that he was claiming that
49:09Los Angeles would sink.
49:10Well, this was nothing new with John Paul Jackson.
49:12It actually was back to Branham, and I recently did a podcast.
49:16It was actually nothing new with Branham.
49:17You can go back before Branham, and you can find other people saying it.
49:21Branham himself said that he learned about this before he even claimed to have had a prophecy.
49:27He talked about watching TV, and he learned it on the TV.
49:30So, there's just so many problems with this, and the biggest of which, like you mentioned, Branham said it would
49:35happen before his son was an old man.
49:37His son, who has now died of old age.
49:40So, John, even though we see Los Angeles, you know, there's not evidence that it is going to fall because,
49:46you know, they've studied the area.
49:47They know, we well know the geography of the area.
49:50And so, back in the 40s and 50s and 60s, you know, not much was well known.
49:57But nowadays, it's been studied enough to where I'm pretty sure that scientists feel like Los Angeles is on stable
50:03ground,
50:03so it's not going to just all of a sudden plunge into the ocean.
50:07And on top of that, you know, the prophecy that mentions Capernaum was in the bottom of the sea.
50:12Well, Capernaum has never been in the bottom of the sea, so I don't think the Holy Spirit would also
50:17say something that's incorrect, you know, regarding this prophecy.
50:22The Los Angeles sinking prophecy, that is another one that really emphasizes what I said at the beginning.
50:28That doesn't edify me at all to think about Los Angeles sinking.
50:31It does cause a little bit of fear and anxiety.
50:34In fact, when I flew out there, I remember stepping on the ground and almost falling over because of that
50:39fear and anxiety.
50:41It wasn't edifying to me.
50:43It didn't help me.
50:43It didn't give me comfort.
50:45And that's what the New Testament talks about.
50:47Now, there is a scenario where it could be biblical.
50:50If Branum were truly concerned about the lives of the people and God were speaking through him to help save
50:58lives instead of them dying in this massive destruction, that could be seen as biblical because that would give comfort
51:06to them.
51:07Get out.
51:07Get to safety.
51:08But it wasn't that.
51:09It was a prophecy of condemnation.
51:11If you listen to everything he says, he really says it in anger, and he's mostly angry because most of
51:17the churches have cut him off by that point.
51:19He was down to, I think, at the end, only the full gospel businessmen would even have him.
51:24He had said so many heretical things.
51:26He'd been pushed out of all of the churches.
51:28Well, he's speaking in anger.
51:30So this was a prophecy in anger.
51:32It wasn't prophecy to edify.
51:34So for me, the whole thing is just anti-biblical.
51:37This is an anti-biblical prophet, but I question even prophet because some of the things, like we've said, most
51:44of the things he said came after the fact.
51:47Those that didn't come after the fact, he got wrong.
51:50So how can you label him a prophet?
51:52So, John, I do agree with that.
51:55I mean, that's so true, and, you know, we're coming to the end of this and understanding that people do
52:03persist with prophecies that are false.
52:05It doesn't matter, you know, ever how – because you can interpret these things a hundred different ways.
52:11So it's just the fact that it was thrown out there by a man that they have a lot of
52:16trust in.
52:17It doesn't matter who the man is or who the woman is.
52:20You know, if they have a lot of trust in what they're saying and that they believe that they have
52:23spiritual insights, you know, they're going to put a lot of trust in their prophecy.
52:27And more to the point, it's so that they can put their focus and their faith in the prophet.
52:32It's a prophecy to uplift the prophet.
52:34That's really all – everything that we've mentioned, that's really all that this is.
52:39So why do people do this?
52:41Well, we get to that same concept we said in the beginning.
52:44It's cognitive dissonance.
52:46You know, people don't abandon beliefs just because things happen.
52:51They have to avoid the pain and discomfort in their minds, and they do this by reinterpreting the evidence.
52:58They can reinterpret how things were supposed to happen, and in their minds, they can rationalize it, why this contradiction
53:04appears and why it appears to be a contradiction but really isn't.
53:08And then they can blame the misunderstanding on outsiders, you know, that you just don't understand.
53:14You know, only if you're in the inner circle would you understand why you have to believe this.
53:19And then they continue to add new beliefs that, you know, support the old one.
53:24And they double down on their commitment.
53:26But it's all to get relief, you know, in their minds from discomfort that they're feeling, the tensions that they're
53:32feeling.
53:33It doesn't have to be truth.
53:35So the major insight that we can glean from this and the most important conclusion on all this, you know,
53:43when prophecy fails,
53:44is that people are often more committed to the beliefs after they're disproven.
53:50If abandoning the beliefs would cost them too much psychologically or even socially, truth is just not enough to change
53:58people's minds.
53:59It's just the way it is.
54:01You know, the book that was written, When Prophecy Fails, you know, it's very influential beyond, you know, what it
54:09was written for.
54:09Because these insights that they gathered by studying this group, it applies to not only religious cults and failed end
54:19-time movements,
54:20but it applies to political ideologies as well.
54:23Even conspiracy theories, why people strongly believe in those.
54:26Maybe why we didn't go to the moon or why the earth is flat.
54:32Or even high-control religious groups.
54:34So all these things are playing to this very same concept.
54:40So I think the book was very important because it shows that belief persistence is not really about evidence here.
54:48Not really about critical thinking.
54:50But it's about your identity.
54:52About who you are and who you come to believe you are.
54:55It's about your community.
54:57The people you associate with.
54:59It's very detrimental.
55:02It's very destructive to the person's identity to leave the group you're associated with.
55:07Very painful.
55:08Because there's such an emotional investment in the whole thing.
55:12So when the belief becomes who we are,
55:16and then admitting the error feels like a self-destruction of the person.
55:20And that's very devastating.
55:22That's why we can run into mental issues by leaving a group.
55:27Why we may need therapy.
55:29Why we need support.
55:31Because it's very painful.
55:33But I think truth is definitely more important in the end than staying with a group that is holding on
55:42to things that's not true.
55:43Because in the end, you're not built on a good foundation.
55:48And as Christians, we want to build on a good foundation.
55:51We don't want to just be in a group because of our social influence.
55:56And if you look at that, that's what's going to hold you and carry you through is your belief that
56:02you're going to get on a firm foundation.
56:03And, of course, that will be the scriptures.
56:06So that's what this is all about.
56:09And that will conclude basically all about false prophecies here.
56:13To finish up in a couple more episodes, John, I want to go over, you know, the very thing that
56:20sparked this whole series.
56:22And it was a couple of letters that William Branham wrote to various men to promote his own self.
56:29And I'll get into that next time, John.
56:31Sounds good.
56:32Well, if you've enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web.
56:36You can find us at william-branham.org.
56:38For more information about Roy Davis and William Branham, you can read The Persuasive Preacher, The Gifted Prophet, and The
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