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00:25Thank y'all for being so hospitable.
00:27I am still thriving in the world of public relations.
00:31I know I mentioned that I was taking a step away
00:33from the entertainment world.
00:34I will be making my exit from the Houston entertainment scene.
00:39But my clients didn't let me do that,
00:41so I'm still in the world of PR, doing events,
00:45and it's just been really, really busy.
00:49We made it real sweet.
00:51It's sweet like me.
00:52Silver dress and red lip is a themed dinner
00:56that I started last year,
00:57because I was inspired by Beyonce's renaissance.
01:00Hey, see, how are you?
01:02Very cute.
01:03How are you?
01:04You look nice, honey.
01:04No, honey, come on.
01:06I love you.
01:06Second annual silver dress.
01:08Hey, babe.
01:09I opened up an invitation for all the ladies to attend,
01:12because we haven't been, like, collectively together
01:15in actually probably a few months.
01:17You can live a life so fabulous.
01:19All day, all day, so fabulous.
01:22Being one of Houston's most sought-after wedding and event
01:25planners, things are good.
01:27The party's here.
01:28We're here.
01:29Don't you start.
01:31Oh, my girl.
01:32You look cute.
01:33So do you.
01:34I love it.
01:35You look sophisticated.
01:37You can sit right over here in the back,
01:39and we're going to bring Yossi.
01:39In the back.
01:41Oh, that's how you're feeling today.
01:42OK, Beyonce, sit down.
01:44Family life is great.
01:45The girls are really growing up.
01:47And my son, Nico, he has a job.
01:49He's leveled up.
01:51Jordan is still in the picture.
01:52We are dating.
01:54Sorta.
01:56All aboard.
01:59I can take you to a pot of gold
02:00if you follow me down this road.
02:05X, destination's still my bag.
02:07Follow me, follow me, follow me now.
02:09Over the last few months, I have changed internally.
02:12And then I transitioned that to my outward body.
02:15I cut off my hair off.
02:17I went blonde.
02:18I got a little nip tuck, you know.
02:20I wouldn't say that I'm road 2.0.
02:22I'm more like road 10.0, because I already was already,
02:25so.
02:25Hey, ladies.
02:26OK.
02:27What's up?
02:27What's up, Aksiana?
02:30Woo!
02:30Woo!
02:30We got that ass out tonight, baby.
02:32Get in.
02:33I feel good.
02:34I just feel like I just want to go out and do new things
02:36and meet new people.
02:38And I'm just ready for my life to restart again.
02:41Where are Alayna?
02:43Alayna, you know what?
02:45I talked to Alayna the other day.
02:46I think she went to Colorado or something like that.
02:48I invited Alayna as well, but I just know right now
02:51she's navigating through her new journey of life.
02:54And I understand that sometimes pulling away a little bit
02:57so that you can pour into yourself is necessary.
03:01I hope she left watching McCauley.
03:03Oh, Josh.
03:04To who else?
03:04Fine-ass Josh.
03:06Ha!
03:07Don't talk about my man.
03:09Fine.
03:09He is fine.
03:11He is fine.
03:12He is fine.
03:13Don't talk about my man.
03:14Is she going to divorce this man or not?
03:16Because I'm tired of talking about it.
03:17You know what?
03:17I think she's getting a divorce now.
03:18She getting a divorce?
03:19I think.
03:20Girl.
03:20She better step outside.
03:22Cheers to having baddie friends.
03:24Cheers.
03:26Where's Labrina and Munera?
03:29You invited them?
03:30Yeah.
03:31Everybody was invited.
03:32All the ladies was invited.
03:33So why aren't they here?
03:35I haven't heard from them.
03:39I don't know.
03:40I'm not surprised that everybody's not here tonight
03:43because that's kind of been the culture
03:44of the past six months of like not coming,
03:47not communicating.
03:48And it just is what it is.
03:50Well, after the whole situation we had when we all met up,
03:53I mean, it's just been weird after that.
03:54The whole purpose of me having therapy amongst everybody
03:57was so that we could get on the same page.
03:59Last year, we were all blooming so beautifully.
04:02In a beautiful vineyard, sipping wine, giving out flowers.
04:07And let bargones be bargones.
04:09I appreciate that.
04:10But there were some things Labrina said at the vineyard
04:15that did bother me.
04:16I said what I had to say.
04:18After I pulled it out your ass.
04:18I literally said, hey, you called me a scammer.
04:21You said I steal clothes, take them back,
04:23wear them with the tag on at the vineyard.
04:26Like Chloe, I was told by different women,
04:29you got to watch her.
04:30And you was a scammer, and you was cutthroat,
04:33and you used to go take clothes back with receipts.
04:38There were several people at the table, myself included,
04:41that mentioned some situations with Labrina.
04:44You remember that when she was like,
04:45y'all not on my level?
04:46I do remember that.
04:47And you didn't think that we were on your level?
04:49Level, in terms of level for me, means being peace.
04:54You thought you was like, I'm about to be in this room
04:55with these girls that ain't going to bring them to the table?
04:57I felt like it was a waste of my time.
04:59I just, I could not understand that.
05:01And I was very hurt.
05:03So going into therapy, I was like,
05:05let me just get this off my chest,
05:07so we can hash it out and move on.
05:09Labrina said that about us.
05:11She said we weren't on her level.
05:12She said some things about our friendships
05:14and people that we love.
05:16Talk about what you love.
05:16You talking about at the vineyard too?
05:18At the women's event.
05:19I remember that.
05:19My friend actually overheard her, call her precious.
05:23Like the movie?
05:24Yeah.
05:26I believe everybody in this room
05:28is amazing.
05:33It was brought to me that Labrina
05:35had called one of my friends that I honored
05:37at my women's making history dinner.
05:40She called her precious.
05:42Precious is a character that was on a movie
05:44that was known for kind of being a little bit
05:46on the larger side and unattractive.
05:48And to be very honest in the black community,
05:51that ain't never been no compliment.
05:53Comparing a woman of curves that's plus size and beautiful
05:57to precious the character.
05:59No way can you look at that as a compliment.
06:02I ain't never shown that no disrespect.
06:04Start yelling at people first.
06:06But what I look like.
06:07Girl, she stomped off.
06:07She was crying.
06:08What was that?
06:09She was not crying when she walked out and said,
06:10y'all.
06:11We all stopped our day, stopped meeting,
06:14stopped business to come there for that meeting.
06:15Right?
06:16She was like, no, y'all.
06:17I walked out.
06:17Man, you too.
06:18At the end of the therapy session,
06:21LaBrina walked out and said, all y'all.
06:24And I was like, oh, OK.
06:26Striving.
06:26So why Munira not here?
06:27She ain't got nothing to do with this.
06:29I don't know.
06:29I mean, maybe her loyalty to LaBrina runs very thick.
06:32Oh, yeah, that's probably right.
06:32And she feels like this the side I'm on.
06:35To me, in my friendships, I don't pick the side.
06:37What's right is right.
06:39That's just it.
06:40What's right is right is wrong is wrong.
06:42There's a division in the group.
06:43You know, on one side, it's me, Latouria Roe.
06:46And on the other side, it's Munira and LaBrina.
06:49And Elena's wandering in the woods.
06:51She's done with it all.
06:52At this point, I don't even know if we can resolve it.
06:55This is not the time and the place to not inspire.
06:58Whatever the personal matters are,
07:00we can get over that hurdle.
07:01But these girls should not see us in no other light
07:04but inspiration, period.
07:06I mean, that's what we always do.
07:07If all of the ladies showed up,
07:09that would have been a 10 out of 10.
07:11But if not, it's OK.
07:18My girl.
07:20I just told her about Jordan.
07:22I was like, you mean, I was concerned about Jordan?
07:24Yeah.
07:26I'm thinking you was that when I told Roe.
07:28I told Roe what?
07:30Jordan, you and I first started dating two years ago.
07:32Tell me about your new relationship.
07:3430, you're age different.
07:3630, yeah.
07:37Is it 30?
07:38No, bro.
07:39You're not even 30.
07:40What did I miss out?
07:41What y'all been doing?
07:42So we just was waiting to see if Jordan was fine tonight.
07:44What y'all mean?
07:46Yes or no?
07:47So I found some receipts.
07:49Some receipts?
07:50That don't sound good to me.
07:52So what does that mean?
07:53I don't know what happened.
07:54I can't get the truth.
07:55I've asked for the truth.
07:56But I mean, he seems to me as he's cheating on me.
07:59What do you mean?
08:00You get what?
08:01Cheater.
08:07Coming up.
08:08For Latouria and Khloe to attack me, it's really ridiculous.
08:12It is.
08:13And it can stay ridiculous.
08:14And you can stay in your ridiculous corner.
08:17I think I want to propose.
08:19So that could be something that we could talk about.
08:21Are you ready to be a husband?
08:24I really did work hard to keep my family together.
08:27Are y'all divorced?
08:32It seems to me as he's cheating on me.
08:34You get what?
08:36Cheater.
08:41It's fine.
08:42He's never been in a relationship, Latouria.
08:44It's not fine.
08:45What makes you think that's fine?
08:47But one, it happened long ago.
08:49Long ago like when?
08:51Way earlier this year.
08:53Girl, that went on long ago.
08:54That was yesterday.
08:54What are you talking about that happened long ago?
08:55It happened long ago.
08:57That was yesterday.
08:57I found the receipts recently.
08:58But the situation.
08:59But you keep seeing receipts with the S.
09:01Like, what did you find?
09:02Like, I don't understand.
09:04Basically, someone was at his house.
09:07So recently, some of Jordan's past decisions showed up in my DM.
09:12I was like, what?
09:14How?
09:15Who?
09:16When?
09:17I was very confused.
09:18It happened so early on in our relationship.
09:20I think it didn't happen last week.
09:22This is something that I found out.
09:24So my thing is the dishonesty.
09:26Yeah.
09:26I like the truth.
09:27Okay.
09:28Take me slow.
09:29So you find that day, he's some infidelity.
09:33Somebody has the door code to his house.
09:35So maybe so.
09:36Girl, what?
09:38I could see it all over Chloe's face.
09:40She is bothered.
09:41She is hurt.
09:43And she doesn't know what to do.
09:44In that moment, as a friend, like, what do you say?
09:46What do you do?
09:46All I can do is support her.
09:47But at the same time, I'm like, girl,
09:49if Jordan don't get it together,
09:51it's a lot of men out here.
09:52There's a lot of fishing to see, babe.
09:53But you need to wrap it up and move forward.
09:55A door code means that y'all are in a relationship,
09:57in my opinion.
10:01So this is not an Airbnb.
10:03This is not, like, none of that.
10:04No, this is door code.
10:06What the hell?
10:08Is Chloe saying somebody got access to the door
10:13and Jordan is cheating?
10:15And I was like, you need to haul yourself a counselor.
10:17You need to admit what you did.
10:19And I want the truth.
10:20He still ain't talking the truth?
10:20No.
10:21He's beating around the bush.
10:22Yeah.
10:23You told his mama?
10:24Yeah, I told his mama every day.
10:26She's the person I told her.
10:27I said, your son, I'll put them all in a group chat.
10:30This is what he did.
10:30I want everybody to know.
10:32The group chat.
10:33Put the receipts in a group chat.
10:35Tell your family what you did.
10:37Your mama know.
10:38Your brother know.
10:39Your daddy.
10:39Everybody gonna be in a group chat.
10:41Don't play with me.
10:42Jordan is not being accountable right now.
10:44It's been a process throughout this whole relationship
10:46with Jordan because I've had to teach him how to love me
10:50and how I communicate.
10:51And I'm patient with that.
10:53But I gotta figure out, like, what we doing next?
10:56Okay, first and foremost, we're here for you.
10:58Okay.
10:59I'm just trying to piece it together.
11:02I know. I know. I know.
11:03No.
11:03Me too.
11:04I know.
11:05Seeing Chloe go through this when she has so much going on
11:09already, for somebody to know she's going through all these
11:11things is, to me, is a red flag.
11:14I understand that he has not been in a relationship before.
11:17At all.
11:18No. Not like this.
11:19He ain't but 28.
11:21He just graduated from COVID.
11:22And I'm not defending anybody, by no means.
11:24Well, he's still learning how to communicate that.
11:27Communication is something that he needs to work on.
11:29Right now, in this moment, if I need to support Chloe
11:31where she's at right now, I'm going to do that.
11:33I'm also going to tell the truth.
11:35I'm tired of heartache.
11:36I love you to death.
11:37I want you to be happy.
11:38If you feel like you can go back with him and be happy,
11:39I'm cool.
11:40I'll support you in whatever you do.
11:41Okay.
11:42But I'm definitely going to give him a little...
11:43Hello.
11:44When I see him, like, don't do my girl like that.
11:46Yeah.
11:46Yeah, you should.
11:48Can you please, out of the winds.
11:54We're upgrading everything over here, out of the winds.
11:59I don't understand this weather.
12:01It was cold this morning, and now it's hot.
12:04Oh, look, we grounding ourselves.
12:05Oh.
12:06Yeah, and see, I feel good about grounding over here,
12:09because you don't have no animals or nothing.
12:10I know.
12:11In my house, girl, I be having to think twice on the area.
12:14Oh, it's home life.
12:16Isn't it?
12:16It's peaceful here.
12:18It is nice.
12:19This bracelet is cute.
12:20Life is cute.
12:21So how are things?
12:22How are your projects going?
12:24Crazy.
12:25It's busy.
12:25I'm still doing content full-time.
12:27Content has been insane and busy, which is a good thing.
12:30You popping.
12:30You've been...
12:32Girl, you know you work hard for these.
12:33I know, but you too.
12:35And now you're finally able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
12:39My life right now is still chaotic.
12:42Content has been up and up and up.
12:44I'm continuously busy working with brands
12:46and just trying to build my platform.
12:48So today is just going to be...
12:49We're going to be shooting family content, lifestyle.
12:52We're not doing, like, none of the brand deals today.
12:53You all ready?
12:54One, three.
12:54One, two, three.
12:56Norm and I, we're trying to go on more dates,
12:57spend more time together.
12:58So we're just trying to figure out how to do everything all together
13:01without losing my mind.
13:02So, yeah.
13:03The grind of it all is chaotic.
13:05And me personally, I am experiencing something new
13:10with working with Will on our new project.
13:13We have a lot of new business ventures.
13:16We expanded Escape Spa.
13:17We have our Pilates and Juice Spa coming up.
13:20We recently bought land, and we're creating a horse safe haven.
13:25We're building out the land, and we are rescuing horses.
13:29That looks so good.
13:30Uh-huh.
13:32Oh, thank you.
13:34Um, so have you, like, talked to any of them?
13:38Any of the other ladies?
13:41I haven't.
13:42I have not said anything to any of them
13:44since the group therapy session we had.
13:47I truly thought these were my friends.
13:49You pour so much into other people,
13:50the people need to pour back into you to fill you up.
13:53I'm so proud of you.
13:55I love you.
13:56I love you, too.
13:57Then when the cameras go down, it was just super weird energy.
14:02It got so bad, we couldn't even come together for events.
14:06So at this point, it's like, all right, let's do a group therapy session.
14:10I'm really thinking, like, okay, we've kumbaya'd before.
14:12Let's kumbaya again.
14:14I don't understand how I became the target.
14:17I don't understand how all of a sudden now I'm the villain.
14:21Then they want to go back to the on my level comment.
14:24And for Khloe to bring that comment back up in therapy was crazy.
14:29That's because you and Latori are having conversations
14:31because you two are the only ones have an issue with this.
14:35It gets ugly.
14:37I think things went south because there was a lot of, like, projecting.
14:42When I first heard about the on my level comment,
14:45I broke it down like I didn't mean it that way.
14:47But all I was saying was I didn't think y'all were on my level like that.
14:50I fought for my peace.
14:51The therapy session, it felt like an attack.
14:54Latori had her issues.
14:55Khloe had her issues.
14:57And they were going back and forth, back and forth,
14:59without necessarily giving Labrina a chance to speak.
15:01For Latori and Khloe to attack me the way that they did,
15:06it was definitely victim energy.
15:07It's really ridiculous.
15:09It is.
15:10And it can stay ridiculous.
15:11And you can stay in your ridiculous corner.
15:13I'm honestly disappointed in Latori.
15:15And I'm a little disappointed in Khloe, too,
15:18because I was expecting all of us to get whatever we have off of our chest,
15:22be respectful, open, and honest.
15:25But yeah, that escalated really quick.
15:28And then I get thrown in the conversation like,
15:30oh, of course, Manira, you would agree with anything Labrina says,
15:33because y'all be talking all the time.
15:34No, it has nothing to do with that.
15:36The fact is the fact.
15:38Did this happen?
15:38Yes or no?
15:39I'm steady trying to give that grace and answer these ridiculous questions.
15:44And then finally, I done blew a gasket.
15:47Like, I felt my anxiety kicking in, you know?
15:49And I felt like they were pushing me to a place that I didn't want to be in.
15:53Right.
15:53You know, I didn't want to be there.
15:55So when I got up, I was just like, F all y'all.
15:59I meant it.
16:01I said what I said in terms of the on my level comment.
16:05But if you still feel some type of way that's outside of what I express,
16:11you got the problem.
16:13F y'all.
16:14Like, bye.
16:15Girl, before I knew it, I was ready to flip the table over like the Incredible Hulk.
16:20Well, I'm very proud of you for getting up and walking out.
16:25Coming up.
16:26How sure are you that Khloe is ready?
16:28Because what if she doesn't say yes?
16:32Do you want to go back?
16:33I would like to see my family stay together.
16:36Why have you not happy?
16:37But my goal is to keep my black family together.
16:39You know how hard that is?
16:40We just talked about how you are trying to be happy.
16:54Hey, Boogie Beer.
16:55Hey, Boogie Bud.
16:57How are you?
16:58I'm good.
16:59OK, you got the leopard on.
17:00A little blonde.
17:01Oh, yes.
17:02OK, video vixen.
17:04You now a little BT Awards.
17:05I see you.
17:07You look adorable.
17:08Where you going?
17:08Baby, it's looking like you finna be on the red carpet today.
17:11Well, honey, every day is a red carpet.
17:13Who's coming today?
17:15Uh, Ro and Elena.
17:16Oh, Elena coming?
17:17Yes, a little catch up session.
17:19Well, mmm.
17:20Baby, I'm excited to see her.
17:22Baby, she been my girl, but she had, Lord have mercy, took a little time.
17:25Yeah.
17:26We had to get over that hump.
17:27I'm sorry.
17:28I appreciate it.
17:29But you passionate about your man, baby.
17:31Forever.
17:32And he fine.
17:33OK, I'm happy that you think he's fine.
17:36And now she's, you know, she's in a new zone, a new...
17:39A new era.
17:40Girl, a new space.
17:41Girl, she is glowing.
17:42Glowing.
17:43Have you seen her on Instagram?
17:44I said you could tell she is living in her truth.
17:47Yeah.
17:47I think, you know, as women, like, you go through a rebirth.
17:50Mm-hmm.
17:51It's nothing like that.
17:52Sometimes your happiness is way more important than all the stuff.
17:56Sometimes.
17:56The look, all the time.
17:58You know?
17:58The riffraff.
17:59The riffraff and putting on for other people.
18:01Absolutely.
18:02Yeah.
18:02And you know, she might have needed that.
18:04Well, hey.
18:06Girl, wait a minute.
18:07Baby, she got the little curls going today.
18:10Curls for the girls.
18:11I got to get it done again.
18:12Yes.
18:13Yes, ma'am.
18:14Good to see you.
18:14Good to see you.
18:15You know, I was trying to tap into my robe.
18:18I kind of like that one, baby.
18:18Like this one better.
18:18Uh-huh, that's cute.
18:20Elena's coming today to lunch.
18:22Period, finally.
18:23I know.
18:23I'm so happy to see her.
18:25I was like, wait a minute, baby.
18:26I got to get this tea.
18:27Feeling like a million bucks all gone.
18:29Only right, we shake it, then we throw it, then we throw it.
18:32We ain't got no liquor last all gone.
18:33You think I'm a baddie and I know it.
18:36Don't give a damn.
18:37I'm over it.
18:38Hey!
18:39Hey, girls.
18:40There she goes.
18:41Yay!
18:42I'm next up.
18:43I love you.
18:44I love you.
18:44I love you.
18:45I love you.
18:45I like the sexy cat.
18:46Okay.
18:47Body, baby.
18:49Jacket, too.
18:50Hi.
18:50How are you, beautiful?
18:52I love your hair, your glasses.
18:57Look, I'm about to take a bath.
18:58Baby, what's up?
18:59How is it?
19:01I miss y'all.
19:02I miss y'all.
19:02I miss you.
19:03I miss my girls.
19:04With me going through this new process, a new chapter in my life, I'm navigating so many
19:10things.
19:11In this space that I'm in, I am not able to hang out with them as much as I would
19:15like.
19:15What's going on with the crew?
19:17Oh.
19:19We don't know.
19:20Y'all don't know?
19:21No, we haven't.
19:22We haven't talked to them.
19:24Yeah.
19:24It's unfortunate.
19:25To see us kind of split apart like that, I just, I didn't want that for us.
19:31Girl, there's so much going on with this group.
19:33She's so much.
19:33You think we ever gonna come back together?
19:35This is like some minor stuff that can really be, like, figured out.
19:40I feel like it's a matter of talk through it, get through it, grow through it, and go through
19:46it.
19:47I don't want no drama, no more drama for my life.
19:51I don't need that.
19:52I want to come in peace.
19:54Well, baby, where we start?
19:55Where we start, baby?
19:56Yeah.
19:56Green the wine.
19:57Now, don't be boring with this now, like .
19:59I'm not gonna be boring, but I am healing.
20:03I'm taking care of my babies and myself, balancing work and my kids.
20:10Girl, weren't you just in Paris doing makeup?
20:12It was for a wedding.
20:13So I've been traveling all over, been busy in my studio.
20:16Mm-hmm.
20:17Been, I typically do my classes like every quarter.
20:19Now I'm doing them every month.
20:21Yeah, baby.
20:22How are the kids?
20:23Um, they're, we are making sure that.
20:26Who is we?
20:27You gotta clarify, Alaina.
20:29You know?
20:30Who is we?
20:30You and Josh are ex-parties.
20:32We're making sure that everything is...
20:33Ex-husband.
20:34...child's father.
20:34I am trying to move on.
20:38Josh and I have been married for 15 years, and we have been together since high school, my junior year.
20:43We've been together for 21 years.
20:46Over the last year, I realized that I need to, one, validate my feelings.
20:51I need to value myself.
20:54Once I started doing that, I knew I needed to make some changes with my marriage because of how I
21:00was being treated.
21:01Marriage is hard.
21:03It is.
21:03And if anyone that has been married for this long tells you that it's just, oh, it's good, we're good,
21:08it's a lie.
21:09I was cheated on.
21:11There's things that have been done to me that I would never do to you.
21:15A lot of things happen, and I messed up.
21:19If therapy doesn't work, what do you foresee?
21:23Who wants to stay in a place where it's not progressing?
21:26Yeah.
21:26Because I'm not happy.
21:29Ooh.
21:30He made some mistakes that I could no longer look past because I wasn't being restored from those mistakes.
21:36He made some horrible investments, which, like, caused our money to, like, dwindle.
21:42Stocks?
21:43Gambling?
21:44What?
21:44He was doing day trading.
21:45Okay.
21:46Would you get a divorce though?
21:47Is that something that you thought in your head before?
21:48Well, he knows if I stay in this space that, you know.
21:51He's done.
21:52But it's something that you would do if you got to that point.
21:54Sometimes you gotta let it go.
21:54I'm not in love with him.
21:57I begged for therapy.
21:58We tried therapy, and it was not successful.
22:01You have to do the homework.
22:03You have to actually do the work.
22:04You can't just go to the therapy session.
22:06So, it wasn't successful.
22:08I think that I tried.
22:09I fought.
22:10I stuck in it to the point where I lost myself, where I couldn't even get out of bed.
22:15I was sick.
22:16I wasn't myself.
22:18I really did work hard to keep my family together.
22:21I know you did.
22:22But I do feel like they should have a good example of how their parents should be treated in a
22:28marriage.
22:29And it should be with love.
22:31When it comes to marriage, I think there are sacrifices that should be made in order to keep families together.
22:37And, of course, I do wish that there was more fight.
22:40Are y'all divorced?
22:51I really did work hard to keep my family together.
22:54Are y'all divorced?
22:59We're going through the process of it.
23:01It's still ongoing.
23:05And there has been numerous times where I just wanted it to turn around.
23:08Eventually, I got to the point where I decided to choose me, and I needed to make a change, and
23:14I did ask Josh to leave.
23:15So, are you still going to date, even though you separated, or like?
23:19Yeah, I'm going to make sure that the ink is dry before I go out on a date.
23:22You filed for the divorce, right?
23:23I think I'll say.
23:24I'm going to make sure the ink is dry before I go out.
23:27Oh, okay.
23:27You know what's so crazy?
23:29The wife in me once would love to see Josh try.
23:34Girl, it's over with.
23:35He done.
23:35Girl, let that go.
23:36You still fight.
23:38God damn.
23:39Come on, let's go.
23:40What's the fuck called?
23:41T-H-O-T.
23:42Is that all for them?
23:43I would like to see Josh fight.
23:44Girl, he didn't fight.
23:45Girl, Josh is gone.
23:46The boy.
23:47The boy.
23:49If you're moving forward, I feel like you should stay on the train.
23:51No, she clarified it, baby.
23:52Do you want to go back?
23:53My goal is to keep my black family together.
23:55You know how hard that is?
23:56We just talked about how you are trying to be happy.
23:59I desire to keep my family together.
24:00That was my ultimate goal.
24:02I wanted that.
24:03I fought for that.
24:04That is why I was married for so long.
24:07But at the end of the day, I got to move on.
24:11Well, anyway.
24:11So you don't flirt when you go out?
24:15Every time I go out, I sit there, and I'm like, man, I'm a wife.
24:18Man, I just don't like going out.
24:22I'm a very at-home person.
24:24I love, like, I've been cooking more lately.
24:28Like, instead of, like, I have that balance now.
24:31Let me see your DMs.
24:32No.
24:34Oh, yeah, they popping.
24:35I know they popping.
24:36There are some friends in Houston that I would, I-
24:39Is he DJ?
24:40Have you had your first date?
24:42Oh, she said DJ?
24:44I'm about to clock out.
24:45I'm about to clock out.
24:46I'm about to clock out.
24:47Do you like to get fancy when you go see him?
24:49Does he rap?
24:50Ooh.
24:51Let's hard.
24:51Is he a rapper?
24:53Oh, yeah.
24:54Oh, my God.
24:56So do you want to-
24:57I think that Elena is literally still healing.
25:00I've been there.
25:01I'm still- I was healing.
25:02Like, that's why I've had sex since March of last year.
25:05Ouch.
25:06Is it dusty down here?
25:07It's a little dust down here.
25:09So, I got one more question.
25:10Are you and him still talking?
25:12Like, how are y'all co-parenting?
25:13Yeah.
25:13I mean, it's gonna have-
25:14There's gonna be some hard days.
25:16I am somewhat of a single mom right now.
25:19So, it's all about my kids pouring into them
25:22and just making sure that my business is running
25:25and operating the way it needs to.
25:27I'm going through that right now.
25:28Y'all still talking for the kids, but like, not like-
25:31I'm pretty sure none personal.
25:32Ain't nothing to talk about personally.
25:33Yeah, it's about the kids.
25:34Co-parenting is something that I'm 13 years in
25:37and I'm still trying to learn how to do it,
25:39so that's why I asked you that.
25:40Whenever you have kids, you don't think about
25:43being a mom part-time.
25:44I am a very hands-on mom.
25:46I am trying to make the best of it.
25:49I don't even want to-
25:50We're co-parenting and we're doing the best we can
25:52in the space that we're in.
25:53It's time for her to really learn herself,
25:56enjoy life, indulge.
26:00Get you something that is a 10 out of 10
26:04and that spores you.
26:06You get what I'm saying, Elena?
26:08Cheers to healthy living.
26:11Cheers to balance.
26:13Getting you some big, long...
26:16Balance.
26:16Strong balance.
26:18My outing.
26:19This is hard.
26:22My outing.
26:24Take a through there.
26:26Take a through there, Lord.
26:28Cheers to taking a through there.
26:30Cheers.
26:30Cheers.
26:46Hey.
26:51What's going on, Victoria?
26:52What's up?
26:53Doing all right?
26:54Good to see you.
26:55You too, you too, you too.
26:56Been all right?
26:57I've been good.
26:58Just busy, but good.
27:00Got your fog colors on.
27:02Yeah.
27:02What's new with you?
27:03What's up?
27:04So one Sunday morning at 6 AM, Jordan calls me and he goes,
27:10listen, I have something I want to talk to you about.
27:13Can we link up?
27:15It's important.
27:16So I'm thinking like, what is this?
27:22I'm trying to get into some, you know,
27:25I guess a different chapter of my life.
27:27I'm thinking about taking it to the next level with Chloe.
27:30And I think it's time for me to...
27:32To what?
27:33I think I want to propose.
27:37So that could be something that we could talk about.
27:39Wait.
27:40You want to propose?
27:41Yeah.
27:42So you mean to tell me, Chloe and Jordan are not talking,
27:45but Jordan wants to propose.
27:48What?
27:48Like, if y'all ain't talking, how you gonna get to point A to point B?
27:52I know I haven't felt this way about any other relationship I've been in.
27:56Never taking it serious.
27:57Okay.
27:58My family is invested.
28:00Her family, you know, her kids, my kids.
28:02Are you ready to be a husband?
28:06I wouldn't say I think I am.
28:07I know I am.
28:08She betters me as a man.
28:09Pushing me.
28:10Wants me to...
28:11And is...
28:12And she backs me with everything I have.
28:14Absolutely.
28:14And she gonna tell me when I'm wrong.
28:16I know Jordan's a private person.
28:18So maybe he didn't feel the need to tell me what was going on with him and Chloe.
28:22But I think it's so weird that Jordan gave me a piece of the puzzle and not the whole puzzle.
28:28You could have told me all of that.
28:30I probably could have helped guide you.
28:32Like, hey, bro.
28:32Like, let's go get her an edible arrangement and let's nip this in the bud.
28:37You been married before?
28:38Never.
28:39You been engaged before?
28:40Never.
28:40Have you ever felt a way about a person where you wanted to marry someone?
28:44That's the thing.
28:44I never even felt connection to where I wanted to even.
28:47Really?
28:47No.
28:48So that's how I know it's different.
28:49You know what I mean?
28:50You got the ring?
28:51That's another thing, too.
28:52You know, so I've been working.
28:54I have some, you know, I got some funds set aside.
28:56But I have to make sure everything financially is in place first.
29:00For sure.
29:00And that's my main focus right now.
29:02Right.
29:03I just want to make sure it's not like a 90% sure.
29:06It's all the way 100% because I think she deserves everything that she wants.
29:10Without a doubt.
29:11And more.
29:12And more.
29:13I'm very protective of my friends and I kind of feel blindsided.
29:17I don't know how to process it.
29:19I don't even know where any of this is going.
29:22If this is where you want to be and the route you want to take, we got to have a
29:28strategy.
29:28Yeah.
29:28So, like, how long are we thinking before we get the ring?
29:32How long are we thinking before we propose?
29:34Next 60 days.
29:3560.
29:36Yes.
29:36I truthfully cannot make sense of why Jordan was acting like everything was just peachy cream.
29:42But I still have hope that they can get back together.
29:47I just think that maybe right now the focus should not be the proposal.
29:51It should be healing and working through this hurdle.
29:54And then we can get to a proposal.
29:56I want y'all to walk into peace.
29:58Right. No, that's what you want.
29:59All angles.
30:00Yeah.
30:00Walk into peace.
30:01And I think that it's essential to propose at the right time.
30:06Yeah.
30:06How sure are you that Khloe is ready?
30:09Because what if she doesn't say yes?
30:19What you making?
30:21You always up to something.
30:22You swear you a shelf or something.
30:24Any use.
30:25I'm making a charcuterie though.
30:29I'm excited to see Josh.
30:31I have not seen Josh in a while.
30:35He should be here any minute now.
30:36I already texted my gate code.
30:38Will invited Josh over because he wanted to check in on him.
30:43I'm worried to sip a little wine and kick my feet up.
30:45I look good though.
30:46And listen to y'all.
30:47I'm excited just to put eyes on them and make sure everything is good.
30:51I know it's a transition, like a big transition.
30:55Josh and Will created their own type of connection.
30:59And I think that he just wanted to see how he's doing due to the fact that Josh and Elena
31:06are going through separation, divorce, or whatever they're doing.
31:09You looking good now.
31:11You ain't embarrassed.
31:13You ain't blessed.
31:15Smelling good.
31:16Looking good.
31:16Feeling good.
31:17Don't make me blush.
31:18Last time.
31:19Last time.
31:20He so-called won five.
31:22That boy's living waiting.
31:24How's house?
31:25How's family?
31:25How's all that kind of stuff?
31:27So we got Papa back.
31:29That's a blessing.
31:30He had to go through his transition with his dad and see how it is to be here or there.
31:34I get it.
31:35That's, um...
31:36I resonate with that.
31:38You know, currently, my kids are going between households too.
31:42Never in a million years would I have thought I would be sitting right here.
31:46When Josh arrived, I definitely could sense that that was the weight of something heavy.
31:51I can't imagine what that's like to build and create a life with somebody.
31:56And then all of a sudden your world is flipped upside down and everything is swept from underneath you.
32:03Y'all don't understand what I've been through.
32:11Y'all don't understand what I've been through.
32:12So, y'all just kind of figuring life out separately.
32:17Uh...
32:18I was told I had to leave the house.
32:21And so, um, not to say that I was surprised by it, but I was kind of surprised about how
32:27it happened.
32:28It's important for Josh to know what you're going through is real too.
32:33And it shouldn't be disregarded because you're a man or because you were the one at fault.
32:40None of us are perfect.
32:41I know what I did without a character.
32:43Mm-hmm.
32:44But I just felt like at the time, like nothing I could do would make her happy.
32:48I really want to know because if I was a husband and I took our investment,
32:53we wanted to make it more than what we had now,
32:57you as my partner is supposed to be there for me, right?
33:00So I want to know about that part because that was like a big deal.
33:03Yeah.
33:03Oh, the money part.
33:05But why?
33:06Why is it big deal?
33:07Why did you do that?
33:08So I've never heard Josh's side of the story, you know, nor have I like seeked any of the information.
33:13But at the same time, I do know Elena said that he lost a great bit of that money.
33:18I was making some investments that I felt like was going to change our lives.
33:25I didn't handle things correctly.
33:27Mm-hmm.
33:27And in that moment, instead of talking through things, I tried to solve a problem on my own.
33:34Okay, at that time, I felt like I was the breadwinner.
33:37Mm-hmm.
33:37And I think that he just wanted to be that breadwinner in that moment.
33:41Okay.
33:42Would you do the one thing that's going to hurt me?
33:46But he has a different side of the story.
33:50And I want to hear Josh's side of the story as well.
33:53This is 2020, COVID shutdown.
33:56I guess the image of it all was that she ran the business and I was just like behind.
34:00I was just like this sidekick or whatever.
34:03I did everything behind the scenes.
34:05So would you consider that more of like partnership or assistant?
34:10No, it was definitely a partnership.
34:11I don't need to be the face of any beauty brand.
34:13For sure.
34:14We partnership.
34:15We a husband and wife.
34:1675% of that business would not have even happened at an average for me.
34:20So only 25% is without you.
34:22But 75%, that's a big chunk.
34:24Everything that that business was involved in, except putting a brush to a face, I was involved in.
34:30And then 2020, we got shut down.
34:32Nobody knew how COVID would translate years to come.
34:35And there was a lot of things going on with the studio, you know, rent backing up.
34:39And so I'm not justifying what I did by any means.
34:42I just tried to solve an issue, which was like, I know finances are hard right now.
34:47Let me try to figure this out.
34:49Yeah.
34:49And I overestimated my intelligence and not my emotional capacity to handle losses.
34:56And I just overestimated it.
34:57And I ended up trying to invest money.
35:00And I was losing money.
35:01I'm like, let me fix this.
35:02Let me fix this.
35:03I kept losing money.
35:03And it just got over my head.
35:05Was it a secret when you was investing in these things?
35:08It was something I couldn't tell.
35:10Tell to nobody.
35:10Yeah.
35:10So she didn't know.
35:11So she felt betrayed.
35:12She felt betrayed.
35:13Okay.
35:14She didn't know to the very end.
35:16Okay.
35:16To when it was like too late.
35:17Yeah, for sure.
35:17Did you feel like you couldn't come to her until it was too late?
35:21What did you think was going to happen to you?
35:22Because I never felt like my feelings were valid, period.
35:25I never felt like anything I came to her was valid.
35:27Why would a man want to destroy his entire financial situation?
35:31Just because of his ego.
35:33Just because you were the breadwinner.
35:34But that was how she conjured it up in her mind.
35:37Right now what it sounds like to me is there was no outlets.
35:40Yeah.
35:40Like there was nobody he could tell, he could lean on, like.
35:49Yes.
35:50Because of guilt.
35:52Oh, that's deep.
35:54One of the things that was said about me is I was anti-therapy.
35:57Is it because you, she had to beg you to go to marriage therapy or?
36:02No, no, no.
36:03I was like if this is what needs to be done to heal, okay.
36:08You know what I mean?
36:09But in counseling, she was saying I can't do this no more.
36:12I can't do this no more.
36:13I can't do this no more.
36:14I can't do this no more.
36:14I broke down.
36:16Why would you bring me here only to do that in front of the camera?
36:19To tear me up.
36:19Why would you say I want to do therapy only to get me to therapy and then ended us?
36:27Even after me leaving, I tried to reach out because I thought it was just space.
36:33And then I was like, can I take you on a date?
36:35She goes, I'll let you know.
36:38I called her on our anniversary and I even wrote her a letter and I gave it to her.
36:43And she had already made plans to take the kids to the movies.
36:46On our anniversary, I was like, now I'm starting to realize that this ain't just space.
36:51I called her in the morning and I'm talking to her and reading the letter.
36:55Very cold.
36:57She says, you want to take a nap?
36:58She takes a nap.
36:59Takes the kids to the movies.
37:01I call her back at 8 o'clock in the night just to check up on her again.
37:05Again, we hadn't really been with each other for two months, but I'm still holding out hope that maybe this
37:11will turn around for us.
37:12And so after anniversary, I just started realizing she don't want this. She going out partying.
37:20I was exed out of everything.
37:22It's been months since I've last spoken with Elena.
37:25The last I've heard was her and Josh have separated.
37:29But to hear him say, I got kicked out, that's definitely not what we got from her.
37:37It was very enlightening.
37:39There's always two sides to every story.
37:41There's definitely two sides to every story.
37:42And you have your side and you're not wrong for your side of the story.
37:47You get what I'm saying?
37:48At this point, you think there's no coming back?
37:54I can't unsee some things, bro.
38:00What happened happened a long time ago and I get that.
38:03But I'm not the only one in this marriage that did messed up stuff.
38:08I'm not the only one in this marriage that did messed up stuff.
38:10Trust me, bro.
38:13You talking about infidelity.
38:14Like, nah, let's talk about everything then.
38:18Basically, you wasn't the only person that cheated.
38:26No.
38:34This season on Heart & Hustle.
38:37This season on Heart & Hustle.
38:49You're back in the lab, y'all.
38:51This is going to be my butterfly season.
38:53Yes.
38:54Okay.
38:55It's all about sisterhood.
38:57It's hard to navigate alone in this space.
39:00You just got to bet on yourself.
39:01When you're around powerful women, you feel the great energy.
39:04Brick by brick, we in Rome top.
39:07My girls found love.
39:09Oh.
39:10This is where we're sleeping.
39:11Are we going to be sleeping?
39:14You look good.
39:15Life's good.
39:17But behind the scenes?
39:18I just don't want you to feel like I'm trying to take you from your dad.
39:22Do you feel like you would be tempted to talk to another woman?
39:25I don't want to go in circles about a conversation.
39:27I want to move forward.
39:28I want to have a resolution.
39:29So you're going to leave me.
39:31Why didn't you come to me first before talking about super delicate things?
39:36So she will never talk to you again.
39:38And I'll never talk to Huggy.
39:40We got to fix this.
39:41Labrina, don't start with me, sweetie.
39:43I can start with who I want.
39:45And then things went live.
39:48Shut the up.
39:49Let her talk.
39:50Are we going to keep doing this three more times?
39:52Some just ain't okay.
39:54You a mean girl.
39:55How are you fed up when you the problem, Chloe?
39:57You think people supposed to kiss your ass and walk behind you?
39:59Girl, out of here.
40:01I've literally been a friend.