00:01Pistons with a comeback on multiple fronts.
00:03One, Friday night, down 22 points at halftime.
00:08And then the bigger one, down 3-1,
00:11comeback in advance.
00:14We asked a question about all-time great sports comebacks.
00:16A few texts, we'll get to the phones.
00:19The most memorable comeback, the 68 Tigers,
00:22were down 3-1, came back to win Tom in Whitmore Lake.
00:26Greatest comeback in sports, LeBron,
00:281-3-1 against the Warriors in 2016, Matt and Pinckney.
00:31The Yankees' 3-0 collapse against the Sox is the biggest.
00:34Individual with comebacks, individual game with comebacks,
00:39would be the Bills and Oilers playoff game,
00:41which is what Keith in Detroit wants to spotlight.
00:43Keith, good morning.
00:45Yeah, I don't count the Bryan comeback
00:47because he got the best defensive player
00:50kicked out the game off some nonsense.
00:52Hold on.
00:53I mean, Draymond was on nonsense,
00:55but we don't need to go there.
00:56If you just stepped over me, I'd have to kick you too.
00:59Okay?
01:01I don't think you're going to win the argument saying
01:02I think players should kick each other, but move on.
01:05Well, I don't understand, but you're in a playoff game.
01:08You can't kick nobody out of a playoff game.
01:10Well, if you do it repeatedly,
01:12you're going to get yourself in trouble.
01:14You can't do it repeatedly.
01:15You're going to want to have fun.
01:17Draymond was a choir boy before that, famously.
01:19I was a choir boy.
01:21I got what you're saying, though.
01:22So, but the Buffalo Bills and Houston should have been the greatest.
01:26And that was a backup quarterback, man.
01:29Come on now.
01:30Frank Wright.
01:30Yeah, Frank Wright.
01:31They're down 35-3, and it's not just at halftime.
01:34It was, you know, hey, the Oilers came out
01:37and scored another touchdown in the second half,
01:39and then it was 28 unanswered.
01:41And when the game is known as the comeback,
01:46it certainly is.
01:48That was one of the greatest footballers.
01:50I coached football for 27 years.
01:53I ain't never been associated with nothing even close to that.
01:56Yeah.
01:57And they won it on a Steve Christie field goal in overtime, 41-38.
02:02Steve Christie's shoot, a little fun fact,
02:04is actually in the Hall of Fame for kicking that game, that game winner.
02:09Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
02:15Pistons fans peacocking after beating an eighth seed is bonkers
02:18after Wagner went down, no less.
02:19That's Dave in Detroit.
02:24I don't think, I haven't heard anybody come on this morning,
02:29call in, and you certainly haven't heard it from the two of us,
02:32saying, yep, next stop, NBA championship.
02:36Titletown, here we come.
02:38Yep, this is a first, and this puts them on a trajectory
02:41to win the next four.
02:42No, if anything, I feel like we've taken some heat
02:46for talking through some of their faults in this series
02:49and not blindly believing the whole time,
02:51and I feel like we've also taken some shots
02:53for pointing out the Franz Wagner stuff.
02:55I'm also not going to tamp down the excitement from fans
02:58who are puffing out their chest right now.
03:01The fact that they were down 3-1,
03:03the fact that they were down 22 on Friday night in game six
03:08in Orlando and came back to win by 14, win at home.
03:14This is the morning after.
03:16Puff your chest up a little bit.
03:18Enjoy the moment.
03:18Now let's get back to work because tomorrow night,
03:21you're going to take on the Cleveland Cavaliers at home
03:25because you're the one seed.
03:27And maybe there's a sigh of relief,
03:28like you didn't blow this.
03:32Not that they were up 3-1 to blow it,
03:34but like as a one seed to an eight seed,
03:35there was the real talk about you're going to go down in history
03:38and they're going to dog you and they were right.
03:40Everybody was right.
03:41The haters were right.
03:42A relief in that you aren't part of that conversation.
03:45And I get wanting to bite back a little bit saying,
03:47you know what?
03:48We're not dead until we're dead.
03:49Right.
03:49Which I think is something you learned about them in this series
03:52is they're a tough team to kill.
03:54Now,
03:54I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out
03:57Cade in the first four games versus Cade in the last three games.
04:01There's clearly a Wagner component here.
04:03He shot 10% better without Wagner.
04:07He shot significantly better from three.
04:10It went from 29% to 61% with no Franz Wagner.
04:14And the turnovers went down almost three a game.
04:17So it's a factor.
04:18You don't have to apologize for advancing.
04:21No,
04:22but don't like la la la la la.
04:23You can't bring it up.
04:24You're a hate.
04:25No,
04:25it's a real storyline in this series that Franz Wagner got hurt.
04:29And game six,
04:30it's a huge storyline that no team has ever gone that cold.
04:33Great defense be damned.
04:34No team has ever gone that cold.
04:37So put it in its proper context.
04:40They're alive.
04:41They're in the fight.
04:43They're learning how to win.
04:44These are all valuable things.
04:48Texas following the pattern of 2003 next year,
04:53NBA champs.
04:54That's Joe and Yale.
04:56Okay.
04:56So that means if it follows Oh three,
04:58they're going to get to the East finals.
05:02Right?
05:03Yeah.
05:03Where,
05:04where they got swept,
05:05right?
05:06Yeah.
05:06We might not want to dwell on that point,
05:07but yeah,
05:08they,
05:08they would be swept if this was like Oh three,
05:10it might be the Nixon by a New York area team.
05:12Oh,
05:13right.
05:13Don't,
05:14don't do that.
05:14If I have to,
05:16good little basketball team.
05:18I don't want to live in that world.
05:20Um,
05:22but then his point is we're going to trade for Rasheed Wallace next year.
05:24Right?
05:25Well,
05:26and,
05:26and Trajan said he's,
05:28he's going to go big game hunting.
05:30Mm-hmm.
05:31And you know what Rasheed can do?
05:32He can get that dog out of Cade.
05:34Yep.
05:34Yep.
05:35Mike on a cell.
05:36Mike,
05:36good morning.
05:38Good morning guys.
05:39Uh,
05:40it's a lovely morning.
05:41And yes,
05:42I,
05:42I mean,
05:42you have to acknowledge that fog of,
05:45you know,
05:45yeah,
05:45they probably don't win the series,
05:46but Tobias Harris is the most important guy in that squad right now.
05:50They need him to be,
05:52uh,
05:52to basically play the way he did yesterday.
05:54Yeah.
05:55Um,
05:55but as far as the greatest comebacks,
05:57uh,
05:58this is one that most people will forget about,
06:00but if you have genuine hatred for your rivals in your heart,
06:03that hatred is more powerful than the love that you have for your team.
06:07So I'm talking about the 1987 Toronto blue Jays and what was once the
06:12greatest rivalry in this area.
06:14Um,
06:15when there was no wild card,
06:16uh,
06:18and you were in the American league East and there was no central,
06:21the Jays were winning the division in 1987 by five and a half games with a
06:25week to play.
06:26Kurt Gibson,
06:28Dr.
06:28Clutch hit a home run to keep the tigers from being mathematically
06:32eliminated at exhibition stadium with a week left and the tigers won.
06:38So they were five and a half back.
06:39I think the tigers went to Kansas city and swept the Royals and the Jays went
06:43to Chicago and got swept by the white socks or vice versa.
06:47Then they met back at the end of the entire stadium to finish off the season
06:52neck and neck.
06:52And the tiger swept them.
06:54Frank can Anna famously on the mound,
06:56flipping the ball over to first base to be the last out.
06:59And I was never so happy in my life.
07:00I would never,
07:02never trade 1987 for 1984 any day of the week.
07:05I was the perfect age and watching my rival just crumble that way with one of
07:10the sweetest things ever in my life.
07:11Yeah.
07:12One of the most epic collapses by,
07:14by Toronto,
07:16um,
07:16in,
07:17in baseball history,
07:18but it's also,
07:19um,
07:20just some fun facts about that season.
07:22All seven of their regular season matchups were decided by one run.
07:26Wow.
07:28Okay.
07:28Yeah.
07:29I remember that was great.
07:30I just want to clarify,
07:30Mike,
07:30did you say you would rather have the 87 season in the 84 season?
07:35I think,
07:36I think it's tough to put this in perspective because I'm actually from Canada,
07:41but in those days,
07:43that rivalry eclipsed Michigan,
07:46Ohio state.
07:47I mean,
07:47that was,
07:48you couldn't wear a Toronto hat to a tiger game.
07:50You were,
07:50you were going to get beat up.
07:51Like that's how serious that was.
07:53And yes,
07:54I was 10 when they won the world series.
07:56But I was 13 when it went.
07:58So that had the added notch.
07:59The fact that they went on and lost to the twins.
08:02I mean,
08:03I don't,
08:04I don't know.
08:04Like as a Michigan fan,
08:05if you're a true blue Michigan fan,
08:07when you were supposed to lose and it was supposed to be like Ohio state's
08:12vengeance.
08:12And you went to the,
08:14you went to the horseshoe and you smoked them.
08:17I mean,
08:17isn't that sweeter than anything?
08:19Like,
08:19doesn't that,
08:19isn't that win better than anything?
08:22The fact that,
08:22you know,
08:23Dan Gladden and the mechanic and that went on and lost.
08:25I mean,
08:26but it's,
08:26no,
08:27So if you're comparing this,
08:28I'll compare it to something that I lived where you beat the Buckeyes in 95
08:35when you weren't supposed to.
08:36And again,
08:37in 96,
08:38but then you were supposed to,
08:39and you did it in 97 and went on to win a championship.
08:42That was much more satisfying and a better season than the,
08:47the,
08:48the 95 game and the 84 Tigers.
08:5130 seconds.
08:52That,
08:52that won the whole thing.
08:53Yeah.
08:53He really ruined his comeback.
08:55Cause it actually is one of Detroit's greatest sports comebacks,
08:58but between saying it's bigger than Michigan,
09:00Ohio state,
09:01which when it was coming off the heels of the 86 Harbaugh,
09:03right?
09:04I mean,
09:04you're just not right.
09:05It's not accurate.
09:05He said he's from Canada.
09:06He wasn't in touch with what was going on locally here,
09:10completely here really quickly.
09:11Exactly.
09:12Exaggerated the story.
09:13It was three and a half games.
09:14That sounds better.
09:15If it's five and a half,
09:16make it 10 and a half.
09:16Next time.
09:19It's 97 one.
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