00:00anyway tonight we got the nba playoffs at the nba finals john you have a question for pistons fans
00:07yeah is this is this make it even worse that it was a missed opportunity that
00:13trades and landa didn't do anything at the trade deadline because
00:17going into the playoffs we said who were going to be the biggest competitors to face obviously
00:22you ended up falling to cleveland yeah but boston with a healthy jason tatum jalen brown
00:29the additions that they made at the trade deadline they were out you didn't have to face them and
00:37yes new york is playing at a very high level in the post season but if it's going to be
00:43as physical
00:44as it is showing did you have an opportunity because of how you handled them in the regular season
00:51that you would have matched up well and played well against them plus we saw in the first couple
00:57of the games the youth factor of a very young san antonio team oh i've heard that narrative that
01:02this was the year to get san antonio yeah because they're not going to be many years where they're
01:06young and inexperienced they're not getting worse right next year they're not going to be worse than
01:09they are this year so it's only going to get harder and on top of that there was an indianapolis
01:15team
01:15without halliburton yeah so should trajan langdon have seen this not that you could see boston being
01:25eliminated early but it was not boston at full strength and i know jason tatum was there but he
01:31wasn't it wasn't at full strength and it was a cleveland team that was man beatable yeah and should have
01:40does it make it even worse now watching new york be up two to one at one point they were
01:48up to
01:48nothing playing the night at home chance to go up three one going back to san antonio with a chance
01:53to come away as nba champs was this the ultimate missed opportunity and for pistons fans are you
02:01looking at this and and i no one's going to say hey fire trajan langdon no but are you looking
02:06at it
02:06going boy he should have seen that this was the opportunity we talked about it at the time this was
02:11an opportunity for the pistons to make a run and he would have had to have maybe abandoned his initial
02:19plan expectations change we talk about it all the time and they're ahead of where they thought they
02:26would be they were last year greg talks about it all the time the parody in this league and how
02:32wide open it's been john are you laying the case that this was as wide open an nba championship
02:38oh certainly it was we've had a very long time now if you if you would have had the argument
02:43that
02:44you're playing okc in the finals a little different yeah a little bit different but if you're playing
02:48the the baby spurs and they'll get up on their hind legs and just like i'm looking at the regular
02:54season against new york you also have to look at the regular season against the spurs it did not go
02:57well for the pistons yeah so the matchup no one's going to sit there and say okay yeah they would
03:02have
03:02won a national or they won a a an nba championship but was this the year where all the dominoes
03:09were
03:10falling in your favor yet at the trade deadline you didn't you basically did nothing because kevin
03:17herder didn't do anything for you it's twofold it's it's the deadline i know we're kind of deadline
03:22obsessed around here it's also the fact that they blew that game seven at home against cleveland
03:27because then at least you get to see it against the knicks and then for peace of mind if they
03:31blow your doors off because again they've been on this run they've won 13 of their last 14 playoff
03:36games if the knicks beach in five then you just live with we weren't good enough but it's the idea
03:40if we had their ass in the regular season what if it's one of the great what ifs so you
03:46had that
03:46extra shooter right the extra shooter you take care of his home you get the knicks in seven but
03:52along with that what if if you get that extra shooter who did you not have right in the postseason
03:58right you just make a good point that if the spur if this is the weakest the spurs are going
04:03to be
04:05if halliburton's back and tatum's back and the knicks are a problem and cleveland's aggressive
04:12it's this was the golden opportunity right whether they would have been nba champs or not the opportunity
04:19was as golden as it gets and it's is it a first time gm that is going to look back
04:24and go
04:25oh shucks i didn't see it at the time i should have
04:31it's not quite a dan campbell this may have been our only shot but it could be a this was
04:36our best shot
04:37right
04:41you're asking pistons fans how this sits with them yeah how does it sit with you now now that you've
04:45watched new york go on this run now that you're watching everything that's going on in madison
04:50square garden and we've talked about the ticket prices and the excitement people dancing in the
04:54streets obviously not after game three but was this a missed opportunity is it does it hurt even more
05:01now watching what how things have gone in the nba playoffs with the knicks specifically two quick
05:09texts and then we'll collect more of them looking back at it this was not a lost opportunity the
05:17pistons should have lost to the magic the regular season carries no weight when it comes to the
05:22postseason i agree with that except if you had added that shooter would the i mean okay we're talking
05:31about things being different in later rounds yeah things would have certainly been different i believe
05:37they would have been different in the early rounds well but yeah i actually think that the
05:40texters making your point though they did get the break of vogner going down right that's part of
05:46this being as a golden of an opportunity yeah you were gifted the opportunity of playing against
05:51cleveland so how much of a pain in the ass is orlando going to be next year with a healthy
05:55vogner
05:56right you know what i'm saying like that if anything it only proves the point that this was the runway
06:00this was their best chance another says looking back at it the jaden ivy trade
06:06honestly uh moving him was a mistake what did we get other than herter who did nothing
06:14well tbd it's not like ivy acquitted himself well after leaving no but would you i mean okay let's
06:22let's go down that road would you have been would ivy have provided more than herter did
06:29i don't know he had very little explosiveness yeah post-injury uh his teammates certainly had
06:37an issue with his behavior in chicago i maybe it was better under wraps here with guys that
06:41that knew him but certainly didn't seem like a good situation behind the scenes right so
06:48and is that part of why trajan moved him yeah and look and you could pick on him defensively so
06:52he doesn't really help you there no i have no regrets on the ivy trade i mean herter wasn't
06:59the impact player but it's not like they moved on from a guy and i'm regretting it right but it
07:05it was
07:06that opportunity and in hindsight obviously is 2020 yeah and you can look at it and say yeah you know
07:12if we had just added a shooter you could be playing for an nba championship but it's the opportunity
07:18opportunity that has now passed you by with all of the injuries in the eastern conference
07:23and the baby spurs thinking about what could have been what if spurs and nicks playing tonight game
07:31four at the garden it's 97 one
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