00:01anytime you're playing the royals those games are going to get magnified and last night margin
00:05for error very small a one-run win 2-1 final dan dickerson on the call good morning
00:11it's 97-1 jim costa john jansen heather park gov and greg behind the glass
00:17pistons playoff success define it
00:22to me and and anybody can have their own version of this and i'm not going to criticize we could
00:28debate to me playoff success is making the eastern conference finals and i would say even
00:38taking it to six games like so you you don't just get there and get swept and if you win
00:44hey i think
00:45that's a cherry on top you get a chance to go to the finals i do think there is a
00:50progression they've
00:50skipped a lot of steps i don't think they can skip all the steps and if they do i'm not
00:56gonna i'm not
00:56sitting here saying it's impossible right but to me if they make the eastern conference finals
01:01everything past that eastern conference champs nba appearance or nba finals appearance nba's
01:08championship like that's all good grand great gravy all that stuff but to me success means this team
01:16this young team this young core that that only won 14 games two years ago that is success to me
01:26i think it's reasonable and we can ask people if they agree with that pin that up on the board
01:30is the first answer playoff success is making the eastern conference finals pushing it to six or seven
01:36and if you bow out there that is a successful season and i would on top of that i would
01:41i would
01:41just say that success disappointment is losing to cleveland if cleveland makes it that far but losing
01:50to cleveland in the in in and not making the finals that's fair because the line to me is
01:56black and white if you achieve success good if you don't disappointment disappointment failure
02:02is a first round exit yeah i see i just don't even let that enter my brain i mean it's
02:08possible that's
02:08another professional team games but yeah i mean i like i'll just get into the hornets here if it is
02:13the hornets they won last night as of right now it could be the hornets detroit's three and oh against
02:18them this season right winning by an average is 16 points per game some blowouts in there
02:23because the hornets have played chippy against the pistons i don't think you get your classic
02:28one seed overlooks the eighth seed detroit's gonna want to punk them they're gonna want to pound them
02:33and you can get in the paint against this team without bam miami was owning the paint with bam they
02:39probably win the game last night i think durin would feast i think kate gets in the lane i think
02:44they can cave in a team like the hornets and have shown it over the year so then the only
02:48way they
02:48beat you is getting ungodly hot from three and they'd have to do it four times in a seven game
02:53series
02:54lamello ball is gonna have to play a lot better than he has against detroit this year here's a
02:59headline for you detroit's owned lamello on the year 18 of 56 shooting that's 32 percent in the three
03:07meetings a minus 53 detroit defends man you can't be lackadaisical you can't get careless with the
03:15basketball if you ask me scale of one to ten how concerned am i about playing the hornets two i
03:22mean
03:22they're a professional team but beyond that i think the pistons are in a great spot you're right if they
03:26were to lose a first round series that would be a failure absolute abject failure now if they lose
03:32to cleveland i'm sorry it's not good enough if you lose in the second round as a one seed it's
03:38just
03:38not good enough right i'm not going to go as far as to say it's a failure it's really close
03:43to a failure
03:44but i that's why i use the term it's a disappointment yeah if they lose to the celtics a team
03:50with
03:50championship pedigree that's healthy i'm not going to sit here and skewer them over it because they
03:58to your point they have skip steps they never played in a play-in tournament right they haven't even won
04:01a playoff series to this point they stack two of them and lose to a boston celtics team in six
04:06games
04:06yeah the only way the only way it would sting is you would think well boston's not going anywhere
04:16haliburton and the pacers will be back in the mix so that's this a golden opportunity a missed
04:21opportunity yes that's probably a better way of putting it is i i i think success is getting the
04:26eastern conference finals and if you're not able to get past boston i think boston will be better
04:33next year than they are this year yep obviously the indiana pacers getting haliburton back will be
04:37better next year it's a missed opportunity but there's always going to be that you look back and
04:43you say oh man a missed opportunity like you know what is it that causes what are we talking about
04:48we talk about the phantom foul and the fact that they weren't able to win another championship
04:54because of something that may have been out of their control they have everything in their
04:58control right now it's a it's a jason tatum that yes he's back he's healthy but is he 100 percent
05:07i would say he's probably closer to 90 percent i don't know that he is the jason tatum pre-injury
05:13be hard to be next year he'll be he'll be more like his old self 248-539-9797 talking some
05:21pistons
05:21today as we gear up for their playoff games begin sunday night tech says a successful run for the
05:27pistons would take them to the ecf at the very least and they need to be competitive in that series
05:33no sweep or five game deal right that's why i said a minimum of six games my definition for success
05:39for
05:39this team in the playoffs is making the nba finals that's the definition of success for him
05:47he says the expectation though is that they will fall short of that and lose in the second round
05:51in a fairly uncompetitive series against cleveland now that would be a failure if they get spanked
05:57by cleveland yeah i'd say it's a they win a token game yeah at home if known playoff choker james
06:05harden is the difference maker yeah you bow out as the one seed jb loses to the team that fired
06:11him
06:11because he couldn't win in the playoffs all of those narratives really start to spin
06:18because i and and right now i have a little bit of a disdain uh more than just a little
06:23disdain i've
06:24got a great disdain for everyone that's texted in or called in and say well jb can't get you over
06:30the
06:31hump he's not he can't get you there that's why cleveland fired him and my argument would be well
06:38then why would anybody ever hire jb again because he he clearly can't win in the playoffs like you are
06:45allowed to get better we talk about it in football all the time from week one to week 17 like
06:50you're
06:50allowed to improve a coach is allowed to learn from shortcomings and get better i mean i what i do
06:57question is he a bridge coach that's what you're kind of saying there john if he were that's that was
07:03the narrative coming out of cleveland right so now we're going to kind of find out a little bit more
07:07about that i mean there are examples of bridge coaches in sports and you would you said would
07:12he be hired again i think he would because you do need bridge coaches sure well call what it is
07:17nba
07:17coaches nhl coaches hired to be fired i mean the shelf life on these guys is ridiculous if you're
07:22not going to hire a guy who was fired i mean it's very incestual the way the bottom line is
07:27whatever
07:27happens here he was the right hire for the pistons in my mind oh yeah at the right time you're
07:33you're
07:33there's no question about it he has gotten them to an unbelievable position when he took over they
07:41were a 14 win team they lost 68 games this year they won 60 so we got the one text
07:49about them uh not
07:51being uh competitive in the second round that's the person's expectation yeah that would be a failure
07:57in my mind i agree you know if you go to seven with cleveland it's a dog fight and you
08:01lose
08:01this team probably grew significantly this year i don't know if i call it a failure i know you jim
08:06you said i think because of the one seed yeah factor you know just because to me it's success or
08:11failure it's it's black and white success is making the east not making the east finals is a failure
08:16especially losing to a team in cleveland that has had many playoff exits right i i see there's i i
08:22see
08:22more gray area in that than you do and but i'm not going to sit there and say you're wrong
08:26it's that's just how you see it but let me ask you this question and you can answer it when
08:30we
08:30come back if they were to exit against cleveland and all those narratives come back up about oh jb is
08:37not a guy that can get you over the hump in the postseason he can he's a bridge coach is
08:42it more
08:42on jb or more on trajan langdon could he get over the hump if he had that second shooter a
08:51guy that is
08:51a knock down three-point guy because they don't have that that's the knock on them
08:55that's not on jb right now in a lot of ways you could say jb has taken a team with
09:01a very clear
09:01weakness and coached around it right and leaned into the other things they do well saying we're
09:07one or two in in defensive efficiency come score on us right we'll run in transition we'll put you
09:13in a headlock and give you noogies until you quit i mean they they have played to their strengths
09:18which is a compliment of coaching right it's a good conversation we can continue it next it's 97 one
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