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Voch Lombardi joined Shan, RJ, and Bobby to recap Dallas’ big first round of the NFL Draft. Voch celebrated landing Caleb Downs at pick eleven, broke down the newest pass-rusher Malachi Lawrence, previewed Day 2 strategy, and more.
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00:00Vach Lombardi on Sean and RJ, 105.3 The Fan.
00:04Vach, can you describe for us how Bobby dressed yesterday
00:07and did a crush brought us his soul?
00:11Bobby was a rebel.
00:12Bobby does what he's going to do,
00:14but I thought Bobby had really good logic about it.
00:16Like, Brian wasn't around all year to kind of be like,
00:20hey, you have to do this.
00:21Like, if, you know, if your deadbeat dad is not around,
00:24he just can't pop up and be like, why you got bad grades?
00:26He's like, bro, you didn't put time into this, you feel me?
00:30So, shots out to Bobby for doing what he's doing.
00:32I can tell you exactly how I was dressed.
00:35Like this?
00:36Same clothes as right now?
00:37This is what I wore last night.
00:38I mean, that's a black jacket.
00:40Yeah.
00:41It could pass for a sport coat.
00:43You wore that same hat, though?
00:44Yeah, I wore all of this.
00:46Did he have a problem?
00:47No, I think...
00:48Are you going to wear that for day two coverage?
00:50No, we have to wear these draft show polos specifically,
00:53but I did tell Chris Beam, I was like,
00:54what would be funny is if tomorrow I showed up in a suit and tie
00:58and then made Broadus irritated.
00:59I'm on your side.
01:00I'm on your side here.
01:01Let me feel comfortable, damn it.
01:03The media members who say when you go to the press box,
01:06you get to wear a suit.
01:07Why?
01:07I'm watching a game.
01:08Yes.
01:10Dress how you would at work.
01:11I am dressed how I am at work.
01:12This is how we dress at work.
01:13Exactly.
01:14I feel you, but, you know,
01:15black people tend to be a little more flashy,
01:17so when I'm seen in public,
01:18I just wanted to flash a little bit.
01:19I don't blame Bobby for that one.
01:21And we Italian, man.
01:22You know what I'm saying?
01:23We Italian.
01:23That's right.
01:24That's right.
01:24You know what I'm saying?
01:25Oh, man.
01:26Armani.
01:27You Italian.
01:27Lombardi.
01:27Lombardi.
01:29Sometimes.
01:29Tariko.
01:31Tariko.
01:31Sometimes, depending on who asks.
01:34Vach, is your excitement level
01:36as high and through the roof
01:38as the rest of DFW?
01:401,000%.
01:42You can ask Bobby.
01:43I say this all the time,
01:44and it sounds messed up when I say it,
01:46and, you know,
01:46some people in the audience think
01:47I'm kind of arrogant when I say this.
01:49Like, oh, Vach, why would you say it?
01:51I always say teams suck at drafting,
01:53but, Vach, these are like the pros.
01:55These are people that, you know,
01:56they get paid millions of dollars
01:57to draft the best guys.
01:59Why do you feel like teams draft like this?
02:00Well, you know,
02:01Ty Simpson gets drafted in the first round.
02:03I get to say things like this.
02:05Caleb Downs,
02:06no matter who you ask,
02:07he's either going to be number one
02:08on their board
02:09or number two on their board.
02:10The Cowboys should not have gotten
02:12Caleb Downs yesterday.
02:13The Cowboys didn't lose enough games
02:15last year to get Caleb Downs.
02:17I was ready to be wiped out.
02:18Tyson was gone.
02:20I was ready to look at
02:21second-tier defenders and all that.
02:23I was looking at Thineman,
02:24Mesidor, Colton, Hood.
02:25Those are names that I was thinking about
02:26because there was no way
02:28that the daggum best player
02:30in the draft falls to the Cowboys
02:32at number 12 overall.
02:33He ended up going number 11,
02:34but teams kind of let this happen to you.
02:36Teams let the best player
02:37fall all the way to you.
02:39Shouts out to the Giants, man.
02:40The Giants did what they had to do.
02:41They had to help us out
02:42drafting this guard, Malinoa,
02:43and look,
02:44I love Francis Malinoa,
02:45but he ain't damn Caleb Downs.
02:47Knock yourself out, player.
02:48There was this big talk
02:50coming out of New York.
02:51Oh, well, we love Caleb Downs.
02:52All the New York Giants
02:54love Caleb Downs.
02:54Player, you didn't love him enough.
02:56Shouts out to you.
02:57Caleb Downs is going to be
02:58lined up against the Giants,
02:59the Washington Football Wizards.
03:01I don't call them by their new name.
03:03But, dog,
03:03Downs is going to terrorize these guys.
03:05I talked to Bobby yesterday.
03:07We was on air.
03:07Well, and I was like,
03:08Bobby, how many times last year
03:10did the Cowboys lose a game
03:12by one possession,
03:14and then we go back
03:14and watch the film, right?
03:15And there was one broken play,
03:18one big pass down the field,
03:19and some corner is looking back
03:21at Malik Hooker like,
03:22what the hell just happened?
03:23What do I do here?
03:24I don't know what I'm supposed
03:25to do here.
03:25It was at least five games.
03:27So it sounds like a homer
03:28in me saying this,
03:29but I don't care
03:29because we got Caleb Downs.
03:31Caleb Downs, in theory,
03:32makes you five games
03:34better than you were last year.
03:35Five?
03:36In theory.
03:38In theory.
03:39In theory.
03:39In theory.
03:39I sound like a homer.
03:40That's a lot of theories.
03:41I sound like a homer.
03:42I sound like a homer,
03:43but what you don't get this year
03:45is dudes looking at other dudes
03:47saying, hey,
03:48I'm not smart enough
03:49to understand the damn scheme.
03:50What do we do here?
03:51Caleb Downs is going to understand.
03:53Jalen Thompson is going to understand.
03:55Malik Hooker is one of the
03:56smarter players on your defense.
03:57I don't know what that says
03:58about your defense.
03:58Maybe he's smart.
03:59Maybe the rest of the defense
04:00is slow.
04:00I don't know.
04:01But, dawg,
04:02you got a collective
04:03of smarter defensive players
04:04now than you did last year.
04:06Of course you five games better.
04:07So, Vach,
04:09there's only one
04:10bit of trepidation
04:11on this show right now.
04:12And it's from R.J.
04:14Choppy.
04:14And it's just a small one
04:16where he says,
04:16I'd rather have
04:17the legit
04:19cornerback
04:20than tell Caleb Downs
04:22that you're going to
04:22play some nickel for me.
04:23I'd rather have
04:24the corner there.
04:25So, like,
04:26maybe a Delane
04:26would be somebody
04:28who's like,
04:28that guy placed the position.
04:28I still would have taken Downs there.
04:30I would have just taken
04:31the corner with the second pick.
04:32So, but why is that
04:33a comfortable projection?
04:34That Caleb Downs
04:35can play the nickel
04:36full-time if he has to?
04:38If,
04:39see,
04:40it's not just going to be
04:41Caleb Downs,
04:42I play nickel corner.
04:43It's Caleb Downs,
04:45I'm going to be nickel dude
04:46until Christian Parker
04:47tells me to do something else.
04:48So, if you line up
04:49against a team
04:50that has like a
04:51super shifty
04:52wide receiver or whatever,
04:53like, Caleb Downs
04:54is probably not going to be
04:55man covering that dude
04:56the whole game.
04:57You're going to find
04:57another one of your corners
04:58to do that, right?
04:59But there are games
05:00to where the tight end
05:01whoops up on you
05:02the whole game
05:03or like a pass catcher
05:04running back
05:04whoops up on you
05:05the whole game
05:05or you just have
05:06a non-shifty
05:08slot receiver.
05:09Amiroth St. Brown
05:09is a really good example.
05:11Like, he's a route runner.
05:12He's not like super bursty,
05:13not like super fast
05:14in that kind of way,
05:15but he's tactful
05:16in how he does,
05:17you know,
05:17he's high nuance
05:19in how he runs routes
05:20and things like that.
05:21Caleb Downs is going to be
05:21fine against those guys.
05:22So, in the event,
05:24hopefully Christian Parker
05:25and I fully believe
05:26Christian Parker
05:26is smart enough
05:27to understand
05:28certain matchups
05:28and things like that.
05:29That's where the push
05:31and pull comes from.
05:32Jalen Thompson
05:33may be better
05:33at nickel sometimes
05:35and then Caleb Downs
05:36goes, you know,
05:36plays, you know,
05:37high or just do whatever.
05:39Or Malik may be high
05:40and then nickel
05:404-2-5,
05:41then that's when you get
05:42Jalen Thompson
05:43and Downs down.
05:44So, RJ,
05:45I feel you.
05:46You may want like
05:47a true pure corner.
05:49Delane was gone.
05:50Yeah.
05:50Your next true pure corner
05:52still waiting
05:53to be drafted right now.
05:54Just my own personal opinion,
05:57Colton Hood is like
05:57the next best corner
05:58or whatever
05:59or Torell or whatever.
06:00Them dudes sitting
06:01at the crib
06:01or in Pittsburgh,
06:02wherever the hell they at,
06:03they sitting around
06:04waiting to be drafted
06:05right now.
06:05Downs as a player
06:06is just much better
06:07than those guys.
06:08So, Vach,
06:08one of the things
06:09we've talked about
06:09and we're talking
06:10with Vach Lombardi
06:10here on 105.3 The Fan.
06:11One of the things
06:11we've talked about
06:12is Downs is safe.
06:13He is high floor.
06:15Like, you're guaranteed
06:17a really good NFL player
06:19as long as he stays healthy.
06:21Why is Downs
06:22more than just safe, though?
06:23Like, why would you say
06:24Caleb Downs is like
06:25that's an exciting
06:25difference maker
06:26that's somebody
06:27who actually affects
06:28the game
06:28and makes big-time
06:29game-changing plays?
06:30Because you can go
06:31see film of him
06:32man-covering like
06:33Brock Bowers
06:34at Georgia or whatever
06:35and Brock Bowers
06:36the best tight end
06:37in the league right now.
06:38You can find him
06:39going and shutting down
06:40wide receivers.
06:41You can actually find
06:41the film.
06:42The film is there.
06:43One thing that I hate
06:44because when you're
06:44like draft guy,
06:45you have to figure out
06:46who you are.
06:46You're either floor guy
06:47or like ceiling guy.
06:48I love floor guy.
06:50I love the dude
06:50that's ready right now.
06:51I know who you are
06:52right now.
06:53What you see on
06:54Caleb Downs at Ohio State
06:55and Bama,
06:56that's who he is right now.
06:58I'm not projection guy.
07:00I'm not,
07:00oh, well,
07:01we're going to
07:01draft Keldrick Falk
07:03and hope that he learned
07:03how to rush the passer
07:04and hope that he learned
07:05how to use his hands
07:06and hope that he puts
07:07counters and stuff together.
07:08I'm not big hope guy.
07:10So you're hoping
07:11with players like that.
07:12You're not hoping
07:12with Caleb Downs.
07:14I'm sure Caleb Downs
07:15is going to be
07:16a good player
07:17in the league
07:17because on his film,
07:19it ain't like he out here
07:20covering like,
07:21you know,
07:22North Texas
07:23wide receivers
07:23and something like that.
07:24That's right, Bobby.
07:25Well, it's local.
07:26Local, my bad, y'all.
07:28He's covering
07:29some of the best
07:30offensive players
07:31in the whole damn country
07:33that end up being
07:34pro-level players.
07:34I feel great about that.
07:35What did you think
07:36of Malachi Lawrence
07:38and why do you think
07:39Christian Parker
07:40is so in love with him?
07:42I think Christian Parker
07:44and Bobby could probably
07:45tell y'all more
07:46about this, I guess,
07:46but I didn't think
07:48that they were looking
07:49for the bigger rundown dude
07:51that the Cowboys
07:52have been trying to get
07:53for the last two years.
07:54They liked our guy
07:56coming out of Georgia
07:57last year.
07:58Bobby, help me with his name.
07:59Michael Williams.
08:00Michael Williams.
08:00Like, they love
08:01those kind of guys,
08:02the TJ Parker kind of guys,
08:03the Keldrick Falk
08:04kind of guys, right?
08:05But if you look at
08:06how your team
08:07is like put together
08:07right now,
08:08you need a dude
08:09that's like bursty
08:10to go help Dono and them
08:11while Donovan Ezra Rock
08:12because Donovan Woods
08:13probably played
08:13for somebody else now.
08:15Donovan Ezra Rock.
08:15Like, you need like
08:16a bendy, bursty,
08:17pass rushy kind of dude
08:18and that's who Lawrence is.
08:20Flies off the line
08:21of scrimmage
08:21and just like him,
08:22I love that he's a guy
08:23that rushes with nuance.
08:25Like, he has a pass rush
08:25plan right now.
08:27Like, he reacts to
08:28what the offensive line
08:29gives him right now.
08:30He's used his hands guy
08:31right now.
08:32I asked him last night,
08:33we were just talking
08:34to him on, you know,
08:36the dot com feed
08:37or whatever.
08:37I was like,
08:38hey man,
08:38it looked like you have a plan.
08:39It looked like you rushed
08:40with a pretty good feeling.
08:41He was like,
08:42yes, Vach,
08:42I watch a lot of film
08:43and I rush with a pretty good plan
08:45and I rush off fields.
08:46I'm like, fantastic.
08:47You're not one of these guys
08:48that's gonna have to learn
08:49how to do those things
08:50and I think just one less
08:51thing to learn,
08:51I think it's fantastic.
08:52Plus, Cowboys hired BT Jordan
08:55to kind of, you know,
08:56come in every now and then
08:57and, you know,
08:57help guys pass rush
08:58and he has a fantastic track record
09:00of helping guys
09:01being better pass rushers
09:02so I just see great,
09:03you know,
09:03great things from him.
09:04I will say,
09:05I will say,
09:06as much as I was a homer
09:07for downs,
09:08I did have a couple
09:09of pass rushers
09:10ranked higher than Lawrence
09:11but that's because
09:13they play like,
09:14you know,
09:14in the SEC or whatever
09:15or they play it against
09:16other like high-level
09:17competition or whatnot.
09:19Malachi didn't play
09:20a bunch of great competition
09:21so it's up for him
09:23to, you know,
09:24take these tools
09:24and develop them
09:26and grow
09:26and he's gonna have to
09:27run into a top-tier tackle
09:28one day but
09:29at least he has,
09:30you know,
09:30time to develop
09:31and stuff like that.
09:32Vox,
09:33give us a day two preview
09:34and I'll ask you the question
09:35we posed to Bobby.
09:36What do you think
09:37is more likely
09:38if you have to pick one
09:39that they use
09:40the third
09:42and the fourths
09:42to move into the second
09:44or use them
09:46to maybe acquire
09:47a vet
09:48or just stick and pick
09:50and if they do,
09:50what do you see?
09:52I think
09:53they should be on the phone
09:54with Miami
09:55right now
09:56and be like,
09:56hey bro,
09:57you got a linebacker
09:58and you suck.
10:00Don't waste this man's time.
10:02Don't waste this man's time.
10:03I think it's clear
10:04that Miami
10:05is in the more picks business.
10:07The Cowboys got,
10:08first of all,
10:08let me just give the Cowboys
10:09a little bit of credit.
10:10I know we live in a time
10:11where we don't want to give
10:12the Cowboys a whole bunch of credit
10:13but they turned two fives
10:15into two fours,
10:17got downs
10:17and still got the dude
10:18at 23
10:19that they was going to get
10:20at 20.
10:20So,
10:21shots out to them.
10:21That was a clinic.
10:22They put on a clinic.
10:23Fantastic.
10:24But with one of those fours,
10:26I'm not really
10:27trying to move up
10:28into the draft
10:29because I think
10:29all those guys
10:30in that range
10:31are like the same kind of guy.
10:32I'm trying to go
10:33and get veteran help right now.
10:34I think veteran help
10:35helps you much more
10:36with these fours.
10:38Now,
10:38there are guys,
10:39let me just look at my board,
10:39there are guys
10:40like in the fourth round
10:41like,
10:41you know,
10:41if you want to go
10:42and get like another corner
10:43or something,
10:44Thaddeus Dixon is a name,
10:46you know,
10:47Devin Marshall is a name
10:48but,
10:48you know,
10:48when I say those names
10:50to RJ Chopp,
10:50he's like,
10:51hey man,
10:51I don't know those guys
10:52so those guys can't be good
10:53right back at the door.
10:54You take those picks
10:55and get a dude
10:56whose name that you know
10:58to come in
10:59and like play some linebacker
11:00for you right now.
11:01So,
11:01if they want to trade
11:02back up into the second round
11:04or just hiring the third,
11:05like knock yourself out,
11:06go and get you a linebacker
11:07or something.
11:07Jacob Rodriguez
11:08is probably a guy
11:09that goes in the third round,
11:10maybe should go in the third.
11:12Anthony Hill is probably gone.
11:14Joe,
11:14Sia Trotter,
11:15Jeremiah Trotter's other son,
11:16he's in the draft too.
11:17He may be a late second guy
11:19so you want to move up
11:20and get a dude like that
11:21but I prefer to get somebody
11:22that's been playing football
11:23in the league already.
11:24What do you do at Miami?
11:25He says it's for a three.
11:27You're three.
11:28I'll holler at y'all.
11:29I'll just keep my little three
11:30and go mind my business
11:32and just take a player that I like.
11:33But if I'm being reckless,
11:35fine,
11:36cool,
11:36take the three.
11:37Honestly,
11:39Sean,
11:39me and you on the same page,
11:40bro.
11:41I love Malachi Lawrence
11:43but I would have taken that 20
11:44and just called Vegas.
11:46I don't need all these extra fours
11:47that you would have picked back up.
11:48I would have loved to get Crosby up here
11:51and if you got downs and Crosby,
11:53I wouldn't even have to draft today.
11:54I'd just be sitting up in .com
11:55just sitting around
11:57not caring what the hell going on
11:58but it is what it is, bro.
11:59I mean,
11:59I stole that from you.
12:00I retweeted you.
12:02So that was your idea to do it.
12:04So Vach,
12:0592,
12:05pick 92.
12:06Everybody wants another defensive player there.
12:08Who's the offensive player
12:10you could see getting to 92 range
12:12and you'd be like,
12:13well,
12:13I might be arguing for that guy
12:15to go as an offensive pick
12:16for Dallas at 92.
12:19There's an argument
12:20and it may not be a great argument
12:21but there's an argument.
12:23You know,
12:23they're probably into wide receiver.
12:25They may do something like that
12:26but as an offensive player,
12:27offensive line makes a little bit of sense.
12:29I've been digging the centers in this class
12:32so like Sam Hetched or something.
12:34You know what I mean?
12:34Like maybe there's some Illuminati
12:36playing to where,
12:37all right,
12:37if one of the tackles don't work,
12:39we'll put Big Tyler at a tackle,
12:41we'll put BB at a guard
12:42and we'll just get a new center.
12:43Like that makes a little bit of sense maybe
12:45but I'm of the mindset of
12:47if you were going to draft offense,
12:49it would have to be 12 overall for us
12:51because if you would have gotten wiped out,
12:53you're at the mercy of the board.
12:55The rest of these picks,
12:56in my personal opinion,
12:57have to be all defense.
12:58Just kind of throw darts
13:00at some of these linebackers,
13:01throw darts at safeties,
13:03throw darts at DBs just to see.
13:05Also as well,
13:06I think Jerry Jones
13:07wants to be right about the Micah deal.
13:09So if you trade back from 20,
13:12those fourth round picks are in that equation.
13:14So if Jerry wants to be right,
13:15he probably wants to hit on one of those fours
13:17and be like,
13:18hey man,
13:18we was right about Micah.
13:19It turned into Kenny Clark,
13:21it turned into Malachi Lawrence
13:22and one of these dudes
13:23that we use with the fourth round pick
13:25or whatnot.
13:26So YouTube superstar,
13:27he's already dressed for day two,
13:29dallascowboys.com,
13:30Crown Global Media,
13:32Vach Lombardi on the Fan Camp,
13:33Twitch and YouTube.
13:34Thank you so much.
13:35Keep up the great work.
13:36Appreciate y'all.
13:37I'm about to get in my truck
13:38and drive to Crown Global Media
13:39and I'll be listening to 105.3
13:40The Fan on the way.
13:41Salute.
13:41Oh yeah,
13:42appreciate you.
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