00:00Caleb Downs is a member of America's team and Bobby you are handing out hugs in the draft room
00:07I said everybody was getting a hug in fact Derek Eagleton had told us every year now
00:12Tommy Yarsh will hand out cigars at the beginning like here you guys go a draft weekend cigar
00:17excited to do this that whole thing and uh Derek said we were like can we light these up like
00:23in
00:23the studio and he's like of course not and he goes if they he said if they pick Downs you
00:27can
00:27and so because I'll light him no we didn't I guess I don't think he thought it was gonna happen
00:33and so but they pick Downs and as they pick Downs like Nick Eatman just walks did he cook did
00:38he cook
00:39walks by he starts or uh even walks by he starts like fist pumping he was very very happy um
00:45because
00:45I think that they entered the day thinking they would go up to nine I think and get him
00:53and then Kansas City went nope we're going up to six see y'all and then when they called Cleveland
00:59Cleveland said nope we're not going we're picking and so I think then it started causing them to panic
01:05a little bit choppy what was the moment like in Fort Worth well honestly the the big moment was
01:11two picks before two picks well I guess one pick before when the Giants so I had to pee so
01:18bad
01:19and I'm like all right the Giants on the clock they haven't done the interview yet with the ninth
01:24pick whoever that was I can't remember who that was Spencer Fano and I was like I gotta go in
01:28the
01:28bathroom I gotta pee here we go I run in there and and it's it's you know it's my first
01:33urination in
01:34like in 92 hours whatever and you know the amount of water I drink and I hear this roar from
01:39the crowd
01:39roar and I'm like oh crap you know it's courtesy washing these hands just a courtesy wash yeah all he
01:47kids other people are in there only because other people are in there sprint out and I see this big
01:52guy with this thing on his neck the the the basically a lay kind of not a lay but kind
01:58of
01:58whatever it was nice and I'm like what oh my god that's what everybody's cheered about the Giants
02:04took Maui Noah oh baby all we gotta do is get through Miami that's it and then then you see
02:11trade
02:11and everybody starts going nuts and then you see the like because it didn't no one no one was looking
02:17ahead no one's on their phones no one was doing laser focus on the tv and then you see that
02:22this
02:22the I kept everyone away from me who was cheating on twitter I said don't come up to me don't
02:28talk
02:28I even text I'm gonna stop texting I he was saying he was texting me and saying there are one
02:33or two
02:33things and I was like I don't want to know I want to and then I was like what if
02:37that's a side text
02:38that we're not on it was the side you know who started you know who started the side text
02:43Sandler started it Sandler started it to talk about lemon and then I just replied to the thread
02:48so uh instead they they flash a helmet and the helmet comes swoosh it across the screen you can't
02:53just see it yet and then it turns it's the Cowboys helmet everybody goes nuts and the whole place
02:58goes and then we knew and then we knew who was gonna I was like literally sweating like I had
03:03sweat and it wasn't hot in the mesquite pluckers the drama this is that the most dramatic pick they've
03:10had in since since Zach like like it's been a while since Zach it was such a unifying moment um
03:19and
03:19look we don't know what's gonna happen we think he's gonna be really good everyone is rewarding the
03:24Cowboys along with the Jets as like yesterday's winner it feels like a sure thing that's why
03:30a lot of Cowboy fans wanted him and he may not end up being good and we've had plenty of
03:34opposite
03:34reactions where we came in here upset the Tolas were pissed off and Travis Frederick even to a to
03:41an extent Micah Parsons when we didn't realize he was going to be a straight pass rusher and it's like
03:45you're drafting a linebacker so that's for another day that's for Oxnard California when we go out there
03:51but for this moment this was so unifying this draft was so fun it was amazing with the time
03:59difference having this thing just go and go and go and the drama and the surprises after all the
04:04coverage it was a magical night I will not forget you know I'm so freaking pumped I went home and
04:09I
04:10listened to the presser and I'm like I saw Bobby in the in the in the broadcast room and I'm
04:15like what
04:16are you doing there so he couldn't get enough he stayed up another two or three hours texting
04:19a Sean McVay's reaction or other type of stuff Giants fans melting down I could not get enough
04:25of going home and watching the entire world praise the Dallas Cowboys and Caleb Downs it's uh it's it's
04:31Jerry had a cowboy readout it's it's universal praise you've got the uh yesterday there was Albert
04:38Breer had like put out right after Dallas's pick said that uh an NFL coach told him that Caleb Downs
04:44was
04:45the odds-on favorite to be most likely to end up with a gold jacket um Jay Glazer talked about
04:51you know there's four players that everybody circled to say and like they're the guys who
04:55are most likely to be in the league for 10 years and make multiple pro balls and Downs is one
04:59of
04:59them uh you had Bill Cowher talking about in an interview with Dan Patrick yesterday about how
05:04great Caleb Downs it's right Palomalo comparison this is so universal that everybody agrees they
05:10got a great player and and a player that slid to you in large part just because the league still
05:14doesn't believe in the value of the position a lot of times and you get the quarterback of your defense
05:20um Schottenheimer afterwards was asked by Clarence is he gonna wear the green dot and he's like no he's
05:27not gonna wear the green dot but he's gonna make a lot of calls in that nickel position Bobby you've
05:31been
05:31talking about him playing nickel uh for the majority of the time I heard you break it down last night
05:36with Votch Votch Lombardi will join us at 8 40 so it sounds like you have a cornerback that you
05:42draft
05:42you really have a pocket knife that you drafted but uh the the big knife in the pocket knife looks
05:47like
05:48it's going to be at that nickel spot and just listen to Saban and Ryan Day and everyone talk about
05:55the computer that he is that's why I want him yes I would like him to be two inches taller
06:00um I would
06:01like to see some more plays in the secondary on the ball he may not last till 11 if that
06:06is the case
06:07because you have a computer freak physically as well uh but that's why I'm so excited because
06:13now you have your you have your your brain back yeah yeah I mean that was the we kept going
06:18back to
06:19the thing that Will McClay said which was the the phrase he really loved from Christian Parker was
06:24describing guys whose brain works and that's the biggest thing about Caleb Downs is his brain works
06:29and he is such a high mental processor and he is such an explosive I don't think that he would
06:36ever test as like a ridiculous athlete he'd test fine but in terms of actual on the football field
06:44like executing football he plays like a ridiculous athlete the stuff at the line of scrimmage is really
06:49really good he doesn't have as much stuff in coverage honestly but that's just because he wasn't
06:54ever asked to do it really he got asked to do it a little more frequently at Alabama so you
06:58see
06:58some more of that but I mean Saban had said yesterday that he was like just off his freshman
07:03tape his freshman tape at Bama with us he would have been the first safety taken yeah because he
07:08was just that ridiculously good here is the secret audio moment when Jerry Jones made the call to let
07:16Caleb know this is Jerry Jones you're a cowboy
07:32hey man congratulations Caleb you're a cowboy thank you thank you I appreciate it oh man we're happy
07:39here's coach here's coach Chottenheimer sorry Caleb what's up brother what's up
07:45hey congratulations man hey we get to play knockout a little bit more man hey hey we're gonna have to
07:51play knockout I'm at the beach you're putting again hey I can't tell you how excited we are
07:56brother this is this is the perfect spot for you god cannot wait I hope you're excited man hey CP
08:04hey hold on CP wants to talk to you hey congrats man hold on one second you're such a partner
08:10or DC all right yes sir Caleb yes sir yes sir yes sir yes sir I hear you hey let's
08:18get to it baby
08:19let's do it bro hey bro I thank you for this coach hey man we're gonna make it happen bro
08:23hey look
08:24we're gonna make each other great yes sir let's get it done man all right all right bro that's a
08:30lot
08:30different from the Rams call I'll tell you that it's a lot different from in a no no slight or
08:36disrespect to anybody else who's been here previously but like it's so much different in
08:40energy by the way with Christian Parker in there as opposed to to other guys like Eberflus or anybody
08:45else that's been in there when they're like getting ready for the pick to be made Parker is like one
08:51arm draped around shoddy one arm draped around Jerry and is just like leaning there like he's about to
08:56he's waiting for it to be announced so they can jump up and down but it was I said this
09:00last night
09:01after they picked him it was always him that was the guy that was what a romantic line that was
09:05that
09:06that was it is it's Jerry McGuire you had me from hello that's that's exactly what it is but it
09:11was
09:11it was always him that they wanted that was from from the time this process started and they got
09:17through everything when that process was completed they're like him if if they were picking at six
09:22last night they're picking Caleb Downs it like the only guys they would have picked ahead of him
09:26I think would have been Bailey and Reese and those guys were gone in the top five so they end
09:30up
09:30pretty much standing pat they got to do just a small flip to 11 and I think that was I
09:36don't know
09:36if that was Miami holding them hostage like we might pick this or if they were trying to say somebody
09:41else yeah I think they were saying somebody else might come up I don't think it's worth I don't
09:45think I'm totally on the same page with choppy the way that you tweeted it with two fifth rounders
09:50what did you say so basically like you know you get for for what just before the second pick
09:56you get the peace of mind just to go and not have to you know that's what this was it's
10:00two fifth
10:01rounders for peace of mind I don't yes and I 1 billion percent support it and and because those
10:05two fifth rounders are two guys you're never going to hear from again sorry brought us let's be real I
10:09know I know that there's examples of guys in the fifth and sixth and seventh round obviously sure but
10:14those are so few and far between you can't even count on it you can't even you can't even
10:20say but it's a possibility because it's really not yeah my first reaction in the moment was why
10:24did you do it and who was the threat and I don't after listening to the presser I don't think
10:29there
10:29was a threat I think it was like let's not take any chance whatsoever let's lock it in and I
10:35think
10:36the Pittsburgh Philadelphia incident is the exact reason why they were they were that a six yeah first
10:42off I'd say they were very very like not upset but I think they were very caught off guard when
10:48Kansas
10:49City went up because they got into the day and they were thinking all right we'll swap spots with
10:53Kansas City that we've we've got like a framework in place here because I think they had I think
10:58they looked at it and they said all right Downs is is going to get down to roughly nine they
11:04thought
11:04they they did not think that the Giants were going to take him with the first pick but they thought
11:08could take him at 10 and then we'd be screwed um they they were sweating a little bit New Orleans
11:14as
11:15well and so they thought all right if New Orleans if it gets by New Orleans then we're going and
11:19so
11:20they were getting ready to go and then all of a sudden at six it's oh Kansas City's on the
11:23clock
11:24and now it shifts everything for them and so they're calling the Browns actually not calling
11:28the Browns because they they were very sneaky this year you didn't see them pick up the phone for some
11:32of these things instead you've got like a little text chain going it looks like before they pick up
11:36the phone to call but uh Cleveland had told them no and said we're not interested in going anywhere
11:41we're taking thought now and so then it was like okay now you got to get through Giants at 10
11:46and when they pick Maui Noah then it was just yeah I think let's pick up let's call let's figure
11:51this
11:51out let's let's just assure ourselves the guy that we want which is you know he's not a typical safety
11:57to them they think they drafted a corner who also plays some safety so they give up two fifths to
12:02just
12:02lock it in and not mess around and then they gain two fourths by moving back for Christian Parker one
12:10of
12:10his absolute favorites and Zach Wolchuk's and Malachi Lawrence and to me that's like all right you not
12:16only got your fifths back you kind of you went up yeah you know so you basically said we traded
12:22two
12:23fifths for two fourths and still got Caleb down and they had talks and thought about trading back from
12:29that I was saying just go ahead trade back again you had corners you had edges you had CJ Allen
12:37which
12:38David Pollack got me hype about and Kyle from Frazier roofs and gutters really hype about you had
12:43tackles which Bobby you dropped in a little bit later yesterday in the show and I was like go ahead
12:48trade back again but as we later heard Christian Parker was sending photos all week long of two
12:57players the will McClay and Jerry kind of out will a little bit going yeah will likes photos and he
13:02was sending photos of the safety and he was sending photos of Malachi that's if you want to look at
13:09they
13:09they all love Caleb Downs and I think they all love Malachi Lawrence but Malachi Lawrence is an example
13:15of Christian Parker's voice is big in that room because that's who he wanted um I don't know that
13:21he was necessarily the highest graded edge rusher left like universally in their room but he was for
13:29Parker that's who Parker goes I can I can make him work that's who I think is going to be
13:33a
13:33difference maker they've got Malachi Lawrence's former defensive line coach here on staff now
13:37um and he is he's really explosive as a pass rusher um and they'll you know whatever that athletic
13:46testing stat or moniker is he went through the roof yeah you've got an edge rusher 250 pounds whatever
13:52he is his vertical is 40 inches like he's a really explosive athlete but it's a I mean they're sitting
13:58here today I know Christian Parker who this is his defense this is his vision he's waking up today
14:03thinking I got exactly who I want and that's big for them
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