00:00but joining us right now live on the fan cam twitch and youtube is our boy the great ross
00:06tucker host of the ross tucker football podcast ross tucker nfl on social media and of course he
00:14is a former dallas cowboy good morning brother how are you ready for that you ready for thursday
00:19i am i i love the draft it's like the nfl and college football having a baby it's amazing
00:27and i gotta tell you guys more so than when we were younger i feel like more weird stuff happens
00:35there's more trades there's more surprises do you remember when we were growing up and like we
00:41already knew the first seven picks would be you know in order like they already signed the first guy
00:47and then we knew the second guy was and the third yes it just seemed like there's a lot more
00:54intrigue now i mean we know who the number one guy is going to be but there's a couple choices
00:58for the jets at two cardinals at three and i was there what nine trades last year i just it's
01:05gotten
01:06cooler you know now i i really liked when the first whatever it was two or three rounds was all
01:12day on
01:12saturday you know back when i was part of it we would get a 30 pack with my college buddies
01:18and just
01:18sit there all day on saturday it was amazing yeah but in terms of the the the intrigue i do
01:26think
01:26it's better than it's ever been give us your perspective and outlook right now for the cowboys
01:30at 12 and 20 weird position to be in really weird position to be in i'm sure i'm not the
01:39first person
01:40to tell you this you know the reason look you don't even need to hear it from me the reason
01:45why the
01:45bangles just traded the 10th overall pick for dexter lawrence is that they didn't really feel
01:53that great about anybody that was still on the board at 10 i mean look they think that they're good
01:59players but they didn't really believe that any of them were necessarily difference making players
02:05and certainly not for 2026 so to be able to get dexter lawrence they felt like that was a move
02:12they had to make now i do think they're trying to send a message to joe burrow and the entire
02:17organization about that and we could have a whole other conversation like they could have just signed
02:23trey hendrickson last year and then kept the 10th pick you know i mean that's a whole other conversation
02:29uh but where the cowboys are at sort of a strange position because they're not high enough that they're
02:37going to get one of the guys that people really feel good about and then i think people really feel
02:44like the value starts coming later in the first round into the second and the third so i think a
02:52lot of other teams are going to feel this way as well it would be great if the cowboys could
02:57trade down
02:58and pick up a couple of second round picks i don't know that that's going to happen and i will
03:04say this
03:05the track record for dallas drafting in this range seems pretty good now i i know the way
03:13you know you guys are on local sports talk radio so i'm sure you'll tell me the guys that were
03:18total
03:18bust but just off the top of my head micah zach martin cd lamb des i think was somewhere around
03:28here
03:28maybe a little bit lower it just feels to me like the cowboys have had a really good run
03:34of getting pro bowl all pro caliber players outside of the top 10 you cemented yourself on this show
03:42because you were ahead of micah with the pennsylvania ties before anyone else preaching and you still let
03:48rj hear about it to this day give us the guys that you love that have been connected to dallas
03:54whether
03:55it's downs styles delane talk about who you absolutely love and in a dream scenario
04:02you think the cowboys should be thrilled if they get at 12 or move up for
04:08well i think if they could get delane or downs at 12 that would be amazing you know you're either
04:16getting the number one safety or the number one corner i just had greg cosell on my ross tucker
04:23football podcast this morning and i think that what he said about caleb downs is he does not have a
04:29weakness and i think that position has increased in importance with every passing year and even going
04:39back to his true freshman year at alabama he was so good you know the reason why nobody wants to
04:47take
04:47guys like that in the top five or maybe even top 10 at running back or safety and to a
04:56lesser extent
04:56tight end it's all financial you know because guys like will anderson are getting 50 million a year
05:04or mike again whatever it is 42 million a year if you can get an elite edge rusher like david
05:12bailey or
05:13arvel reese on a rookie contract you're paying him what 10 million a year so you're getting whatever
05:19that is 30 to 40 million dollars per year of value whereas you know the top of the safety market's
05:27like
05:2720 million and change the top of the running back market's not even 20 million so the thought is if
05:33you take one of those guys you're not really getting as much value out of the pick because you could
05:41more or less just go to free agency and pay top of the market for a running back or a
05:48safety i understand
05:49that but like what are we trying to do here i mean the financial part of it's one thing but
05:55we got to
05:56get good players you got to get really good players and i think getting a kid like downs would be
06:01amazing
06:02uh delaney greg cosell said he's his number one corner silky smooth effortless and i still think
06:11that's a position even though it feels like the cowboys are throwing a bunch of darts at it both
06:16safety and corner to be honest with you i think they could stand to upgrade either one of those spots
06:22i think sunny styles will be a little bit too rich i think there's a better chance
06:27that either downs or delaney fall to them or that they could move up a spot or two and get
06:35them
06:36styles i think is going fourth or fifth so i i don't think that's realistic for the cowboys
06:41nor do i think it should be ross tucker joining us here 105 we had this discussion uh last segment
06:47you
06:47know delane uh or styles that they were both available would you so do you shy off players
06:53based off position at all like or not not not not shy off them completely but choose the position
06:59like corner over you know safety or linebacker if you had them all three available i think it's
07:05primarily a tiebreaker rj you know i most importantly is getting the best player and getting the player
07:14i think on some level that you need that fits your defense etc but if you're really torn
07:23between a corner and a safety and you really have them with the same grade on your board
07:30then you have to take the corner just because of the salary cap and cash savings just like if you're
07:37torn between let's say sunny styles as an off the ball backer or arvel reese the edge rusher
07:44or david bailey for that matter the edge rusher from ohio state or texas tech
07:50if it's close i think you got to go with the guy at the position that makes so much more
07:56money
07:56you know the top of the linebacker off the ball market fred warner is like 23 24 million
08:01we talked about what the edge rusher is so i think it's more of a tiebreaker than like i'm going
08:08to
08:09take a guy low with a lower grade who's lower on my board just because he plays a certain position
08:17that is when i think you really get into trouble all right ross so specifically then on the idea of
08:23picking the best player available but obviously you want to try and blend it with needs that you
08:28have and that fit your team what if these defenders start getting wiped out and they're standing there
08:33at 12 and they're looking at the best player on their board is a wide receiver is that something
08:37where you go that's just not a good use of resources it doesn't matter if that's the best
08:41player or do you say no it's got to stretch this far you take jordan tyson let's say if he's
08:45sitting
08:45there and that's your top player well i think that's highly unlikely i think he's going in the
08:51top 10 i don't know if you guys have watched his highlights that kid is electric and i think someone
08:56in the top 10 is going to take him which by the way is good for the cowboys because that
09:01has somebody
09:01else drop down to you guys uh but i would not shy away from taking a receiver if i'm the
09:09cowboys
09:10number one you know there's nothing wrong with making a strength keeping a strength a strength
09:16or making it stronger you know we know they've got two really good receivers if you added a third
09:23plus it gives you some leverage in the pickings negotiations you know because you don't feel
09:30like you have to get him signed to a long-term deal we've talked about it before there's a reason
09:36why the steelers traded him we've even seen sort of the up and down nature of pickings with the
09:44cowboys last year i called that lions game where he kind of looked disinterested at times i have a huge
09:53huge concern with guys that are that whatever word you guys whatever fancy word rj or sean want to use
10:04right um enigmatic erratic mercurial and i can throw them all out there we never use i'm wearing
10:11the orange i went to princeton and we all know i'm a genius okay i can just keep throwing them
10:17out
10:17there if you want me to jason garrett went to princeton too but yeah but here's the thing if he
10:24acts like
10:24that when he was a second round pick and he's not making that much money and he's trying to get
10:32life
10:32altering money how do you think he's going to act when you give him 40 million dollars a year
10:39so i'm not saying that they shouldn't sign pickings but i'd be very careful about the guaranteed
10:47number and how long the guarantees go out and i don't think it's a bad outcome at all for the
10:54cowboys
10:54if one of these receivers falls to them they take them they have the best trio in the nfl for
11:02a year
11:03and then maybe they trade pickings or whatever maybe they trade pickings before this year i don't
11:07know ross tucker with us here on the fan ross you were obviously an offensive lineman so you dealt with
11:13different you know uh defensive lineman length and and the way that they play and and what kind of
11:18advantages are there there's a ton of discussion about reuben bain and the fact that he's got these
11:22under 31 inch arms and we've never seen anybody like this how do you view that as a real advantage
11:29or disadvantage versus just trusting what's on his tape which looks like a complete game wrecker off
11:33the edge so by the way i don't think we've ever talked about this and i didn't even know this
11:38i knew
11:39i had short arms okay but when i was coming out in 2001 it wasn't it wasn't as big a
11:47deal as it is
11:47now it wasn't talked about as much plus i wasn't invited to the combine i was at i was at
11:53penn state
11:54last year for a concert it's a long story and i went to the football office because i know those
12:00guys
12:00well do you realize i am 30.75 well my arm length is 30.75 and i'm six four and
12:10a half reuben tucker so
12:12so dude i i i'm like a t-rex call me a t-rex i went and looked at the
12:18combine the last five years
12:20the only guy with sub 32 inch arms was 6'1 tyler linderbaum the center that just signed with the
12:29raiders so i don't want you guys to introduce me as former journeyman offensive lineman anymore
12:35i'm one of the 10 best offensive linemen in nfl history accurate with under 31 wow okay and i'll
12:43say this i can't speak to it as much as a d lineman but when i was playing offensive line
12:51against some of those guys like i remember going against richard seymour i would set and he would
12:57do like a one-arm stab it was his arms were twice as long as mine like you know he
13:03would lean and just
13:04stab with one arm and i was like a fish out of water i really do wonder what my career
13:10would
13:11have been like if i was just average 32 and a half would have been that probably would have been
13:17the
13:17difference between me being able to dunk in high school or not think about how many more girls i
13:22could have gotten dunked in high school i'm the next room you're six four you can't dunk so it's it's
13:28it's so annoying that i didn't have like just average arms so for a d lineman i am not as
13:36concerned about it because you know it's wild you know like crazy long arms and was so hard to play
13:42against jason taylor from the dolphins he was reuben bain's d line coach last year so kudos to jason by
13:50the way for telling reuben bain how to play without you know having those long arms he knows how to
13:58play with that i love the way he plays kind of reminds me a little bit of brandon graham who's
14:05the longest tenured eagle ever longest career in eagles history he wins with power ferocity and i'll tell you
14:12the other thing guys that play with bain's power and effort there is a high floor for them so is
14:21there
14:21a chance he doesn't become a 20 sack guy because the tackles can get on him a little bit more
14:27yeah
14:27maybe but when you play with power and violence and effort i feel like the floor is he's a five
14:35to
14:36seven and a half sack guy on an annual basis just because of those those traits ross tucker football
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