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John speaks with Richard Bowker, a former Jehovah's Witness, about his journey through the Witnesses, Reformed Christianity, and the UK charismatic world. Together they compare Jehovah's Witnesses, Branhamism, restorationism, shepherding, and British charismatic renewal, exploring how control, revivalism, and end-times obsession shaped very different religious environments.

The discussion also examines key figures and movements connected to UK charismatic history, including Ern Baxter, Derek Prince, Terry Virgo, John Wimber, Paul Cain, New Wine, and the wider influence of American restorationist and shepherding ideas. Richard offers a rare British perspective on how revival culture, church authority, spiritual abuse, and kingdom-business thinking developed in the UK compared with the more openly political New Apostolic Reformation in the United States.

00:00 Introduction
01:49 Richard’s Jehovah’s Witness Background
07:56 Comparing Jehovah’s Witnesses And Branhamism
14:29 Why Richard Left Jehovah’s Witnesses
18:49 Restorationism, Shepherding, And The UK
26:06 Why Latter Rain Barely Registered In Britain
30:43 When Revival Culture Replaces The Gospel
32:43 Kingdom Businesses, Church Networks, And Drift
36:03 Trump, NAR, And British Resistance
38:02 Derek Prince, Shepherding, And Control
41:07 New Wine, Wimber, And Kansas City Influence
48:25 Accuracy, Rumor, And Responsible Research
51:34 Was Charismatic Influence Good For The UK?

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