00:00I wish the mics were on for that one.
00:04She goes, is it a woman?
00:06It's a group.
00:08Oh, it's a group.
00:10Sade is a group?
00:11No, a woman.
00:13Okay, that's what I said.
00:14I thought you were saying it was.
00:16I didn't.
00:18So this came out in like 84.
00:20So I understand you not.
00:22Because she's pretty much a one-hit wonder.
00:24Yeah, but this is the one hit that gets played.
00:27Yeah.
00:27I mean, there was the baseball player a few years back
00:30that had George Michael's Careless Whisper as his walk-up music.
00:34Oh, yeah.
00:34I can't remember.
00:35It was played for the A's.
00:36Yeah, I knew he played for the A's.
00:37And I think Smooth Operator would kind of be cool
00:41if you went along those same lines
00:43in terms of just out of nowhere your walk-up music one day.
00:46Either that or how about this, the bullpen entrance.
00:49For Smooth Operator?
00:50Yeah, because there's a great lead-up with instrumentals.
00:55Greg played it with the lyrics coming out.
00:57It would be terrible as a walk-up.
00:59It's so bad that it's good.
01:01No.
01:01Like the Careless Whisper thing.
01:04Batting music is different than bullpen music.
01:06Bullpen music, you need intimidation.
01:08Yes.
01:09Yeah, and Smooth Operator does not invoke intimidation.
01:14Okay, so batting one then.
01:14Maybe that could be McGonagall's,
01:16and then he could become Sade as his nickname.
01:20I believe they did play that
01:23when Chauncey Bills hit that three-pointer at the Palace.
01:24I'm really trying hard not to throw you under the bus.
01:27Go ahead.
01:27That's what we do around here.
01:28That's a terrible thing.
01:28I just threw Heather under the bus.
01:30Sure.
01:30Then I was like, well, there should be an H in there,
01:32and then I would have just said Shade.
01:34Yeah, I think, John, what you're saying is
01:37you're throwing Shade at Tom?
01:38Yes.
01:39Yeah, throwing some Shade his way.
01:46We did get a text that said
01:47this could be Cade Cunningham's theme.
01:51I don't want Smooth Operator for any.
01:55Don, they did it with Chauncey.
01:58Oh, okay.
01:59No, I don't want...
01:59Like, there's nothing about Smooth Operator
02:01that invokes anything in an athletic arena.
02:06That'd be dumb.
02:08Yeah, people are saying also not a one-hit wonder.
02:12It's just a whole mess right now.
02:14I kind of did that intentionally.
02:16Blasphemy.
02:17Ask the black community if Shade's a one-hit wonder.
02:19Gov?
02:21We're getting racial this morning.
02:23I didn't do that.
02:24How about this?
02:24I'm a white guy born in 85.
02:27More hit singles than just Smooth Operator.
02:30I was just supporting Mariah Carey again.
02:33So, we went from Mariah Carey to Shade.
02:37We did.
02:38A one-hit wonder.
02:41To Gov's a racist.
02:44One step, two step.
02:45This is what always happens.
02:46It's like the cost.
02:47It always comes back to him, smarm.
02:49And it always comes back to you being a racist.
02:51Yeah, throwing up from Tecumseh.
02:56Back to me.
02:57This is Cookies is right.
02:57It should be the Music Hall of Fame.
03:01Cookies, rock and roll, pop, R&B, and hip-hop all have their roots in R&B.
03:04I'm not disputing that.
03:06I just said, like, the more the merrier.
03:07Like, we're going to recognize all kinds of great artists.
03:09Don't call it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
03:13This is the dumbest argument maybe we've ever had.
03:15Oh, we'll have dumber and we have had dumber.
03:19I don't have any issue with it being a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
03:22You can call it whatever you want.
03:23We all know that it's music.
03:26Don't just call it what it is.
03:28Dumb arguments are what the cookie jar is for.
03:30Yeah, throw that in on Friday.
03:32By the way, did Heather build the cookie jar last week?
03:35Yeah, she did a tremendous job.
03:36Yeah, we talked about that yesterday with the ants and then how much would it take to eat a spider.
03:42And nobody understands temporal mechanics on this show except for me.
03:46Temporal mechanics?
03:47Yeah.
03:47Like, what it understands about time travel.
03:49Time travel.
03:49Oh, yeah, I would have said that without listening to it, that you're the only one that would understand temporal
03:55mechanics.
03:56Like, is there something wrong with my my temporal?
04:01Take it in the dealership.
04:02They'll take a look at it.
04:03All right.
04:04Eight o'clock hour.
04:05We have delivery fails because it happened to someone on the show.
04:09But before that, Brad Holmes, he met with the media yesterday.
04:14He was up at the podium.
04:15People are asking him questions.
04:16We have long said we want the Lions to draft a tackle or an edge, ideally both, in their first
04:23two rounds.
04:24Yeah?
04:25Yes.
04:25Okay.
04:26Brad Holmes doesn't see it that way.
04:29We have audio, Greg.
04:31I believe it is cut number one.
04:34Okay.
04:36Okay.
04:38Okay.
04:41Okay.
04:43Okay.
04:44Okay.
04:44Okay.
04:44Okay.
05:09The old best player available mantra.
05:12We don't have to take an edge or a tackle.
05:15Agree or disagree.
05:21So, again, it goes back to the conversation I was having earlier in regards to are there players that would
05:27fall that would cause you to, and we use the term blow up your draft, I would say to redirect
05:37what you are wanting to do.
05:39And so, if Caleb Downs is there at 17, would I take him over a tackle or an edge?
05:49I probably would.
05:52But I am not going to ignore those positions.
05:57If I do that in the first round, then the second round, what becomes more of a priority?
06:01Is it a starting tackle or somebody that you think has starting potential?
06:05Right.
06:05But if you take him literally, because he always likes to frame it dishonestly, like, well, we're not going to
06:11draft a bad player just to take an edge.
06:13No one's asking you to take a bad player to fill the need.
06:16We want you to take a good edge.
06:17But he always frames it that way of, like, well, I could take an edge if you want me to
06:20take an edge, but I want to take good football players.
06:23At the same time, if you're just going to claim that you will only draft the best player available, would
06:27you take Jeremiah Love at 17?
06:30Because that would seem like a bad pick.
06:31But his methodology would tell you, well, he's the best player on the board.
06:36If the best player on the board is a quarterback, we got to take the best player on the board,
06:39John.
06:40We just take good football players.
06:41Well, if that can't frame it, that best best player available is not what he says it is.
06:46No, but you also have to take like it's that this isn't happening in a vacuum.
06:50If you're at 17 and love is there or for whatever reason, the quarterback is there.
06:58Right.
06:58Mendoza.
07:00Then you have, I'm sure there are a number of other teams picking 18, 19, 20, 21.
07:06He says, I'm taking the best player.
07:09And I'm telling you, that's not true.
07:11If he picks there, but if that's the case, then you're going to be getting a whole bunch of phone
07:16calls that said, hey, I'm going to give you my first and my third this year.
07:23Would you take that to move back four spots?
07:25Because we want the quarterback.
07:27I know how it works, but what I'm saying is his literal definition is I would take the best player.
07:32Okay.
07:32He's also manufactured the best player available when he traded up to get Terry on Arnold.
07:38Exactly.
07:38That's what I'm saying.
07:38His presentation isn't reality.
07:44Yes, but I don't think anybody is sitting there thinking, well, if love is there, he's going to take him
07:51at 17.
07:52I'm saying, can we present it honestly?
07:54Because he likes to dishonestly say, you guys just want me to take an edge to take an edge.
07:57No, I also, I mean, okay.
07:59I don't like how they've framed some of these.
08:03There's also, we're in the silly season.
08:07Yes.
08:07We're in that season of, of deception.
08:11And Brad Holmes is going to say a lot of things to maybe throw out like, well, we don't have
08:17to take a tackle.
08:18We don't have to take an edge.
08:20And, and he's shown that they don't necessarily have to take an edge.
08:25Like that's, that's been his track record.
08:27But in regards to how he's framing all these things, when it's ultimately said and done, if Mendoza is there
08:36at 17, he's not taking Mendoza.
08:38You're getting hung up.
08:39I'm just saying it to make the point that there is room to, to move, to take a position that
08:46you need as opposed to a position you don't need.
08:50Right.
08:51And, and I just want to present it that way because I think there is an urgent need at tackle
08:56and edge.
08:58Larry Boreham, if he's your starter week one, how do you feel about it, John?
09:01I'm not excited about it.
09:03If DJ Wanham is the starting edge and you don't have a competent group around him to rotate in, how
09:08do you feel about the defense?
09:09Again, I'm not excited about the position.
09:12Right.
09:13So, so how do you address it?
09:14Because we've done this free agencies, wave one, wave two, wave three are done.
09:19The impact guys you're going to add for next season would have to be on day one and day two
09:23of the draft.
09:24You have two picks in the top 50.
09:26If you're not interested in taking those positions because you've got better football players who can ride the bench, that's
09:31certainly a strategy after you finish last in the division.
09:34I don't agree with that philosophy.
09:36Look, you're one, you inherit a bad roster.
09:39You could take whatever the hell you want, right?
09:40You need every position two times over.
09:43And when you get five years in and you got a couple hot buttons, you got to address them.
09:47You can't, they've gone three years without taking an edge in the top 100 picks.
09:52Their tackle position is the lifeblood of this offensive line, right?
09:56Yes.
09:56You've addressed center.
09:57You've got a bunch of guards.
09:58You got Panay Sewell.
09:59If you want to get back to being the team that dictates tempo and dictates possession, you have to fix
10:05your offensive line.
10:06So I sent this to you guys earlier, and it was a mock draft of who we thought or who
10:16PFF thought the Lions were going to take at 17.
10:19And when we come back, we'll talk about what it might look like if he does take best player available.
10:26And we're getting some feedback just to reset the question for you.
10:28Do they have to go tackle or edge?
10:32Holmes says we don't.
10:33Do you agree or disagree?
10:35It's 97-1.
10:36Have a good one.
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