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Steiny and Evan find themselves in a heated debate about Daniel Susac, “duck snorts,” and the old-school philosophy of “hitting ‘em where they ain’t.” Plus, a detour into the career and character of Jason Kendall.
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00:00I was the brothers, Andrew.
00:02Yeah, you know, big games.
00:05They're very different people.
00:06Willard was so hyped about Susek in the suite last night.
00:10I kid you not.
00:12No, so Goo texts us, I don't know, in the first or second quarter of the Warriors game,
00:19like we're going to spoil the Giants game.
00:21He goes, taping the Giants game.
00:23And so we're like, okay.
00:26I mean, neither of us are watching.
00:28We're watching Warriors Kings.
00:31So anyways, Willard and Christy come in to the suite because I came to see you guys at halftime.
00:37And Willard walks down and I just checked the score.
00:40I was like, oh, you know, Giants looking pretty good.
00:42And Goo goes, don't, don't, don't say anything.
00:45And Willard says, all right, well, you know, I won't tell you, but.
00:50And then we go back up and I'm like, yeah, it looks like, you know, they're starting to hit a
00:54little bit.
00:54And I had kind of told you guys and I told Willard to before the game that I just had
01:00this like kind of a sneaking suspicion that I think the Giants are going to be able to hit left
01:07handers better than they are righties.
01:09And last night was a reigning, I think Cy Young runner up.
01:13But Sanchez was on the mounders left here for the Phillies and the Giants kind of pummeled him.
01:18And as I'm talking about this, I'm like, yeah, you know, I think Southpaw is this, that, that and the
01:22other.
01:22He goes, yeah, but Susack, you see Susack?
01:25He's five for five.
01:27I'm like, Susack?
01:31Who cares about Daniel Susack?
01:33Anyways, the guy's got what?
01:35Is it six hits now?
01:37Six for seven.
01:38Six for seven.
01:39One shy from getting a record.
01:41Okay.
01:41So have you seen?
01:43What record?
01:44Wait, there's a record?
01:46Most consecutive hits in MLB, beginning of your MLB career.
01:50Well, he can't do it.
01:50Seven for eight.
01:51He can't do it now.
01:52No.
01:54I'm saying he was one shy from the record.
01:56Oh, one shy.
01:57Please listen.
01:58Hey.
02:00He's doing what I do.
02:02Feels good.
02:03But then, okay, Ken.
02:05Big mouth.
02:07When was the last time someone went, was it six for six?
02:10Six for six to start a career.
02:12It was Robbie Fox.
02:13What year?
02:151927.
02:16I think it was 77.
02:18I think Lenny Randall may have done it, too.
02:20The old Texas Ranger.
02:22He's the only one.
02:23He might have done it.
02:24But anyways, so you've seen every single Susack at bat.
02:28So far.
02:28I actually have, which is really weird.
02:30Yeah.
02:30Okay.
02:31How many balls were hit hard?
02:33Hmm.
02:34That's a good question.
02:35Not many, actually.
02:36Though I would say about maybe two to three.
02:39Oh, you.
02:41Zero.
02:43So.
02:44Triple was nice.
02:44Now, is this, I'm going to let him finish, but isn't this the definition of a buzz kill?
02:50Isn't this the definition of a hater?
02:54But go ahead, Evan.
02:55No.
02:56See, this is where I have to be the, I have to be the arbiter.
03:00The bad guy?
03:01Voice of reason?
03:02No.
03:02You guys were killing the Giants yesterday, and I told you they've hit the two worst ballparks possible.
03:07Their offense is going to, they're going to be fine.
03:09They got a lefty coming up last night.
03:11They're going to be able to beat them.
03:12We'll be fine.
03:13I'm the one yesterday when the sky is falling for every single Giants fan saying, hey, it's going to be
03:19okay.
03:20Like, this is the beginning of the season.
03:22Calm down.
03:23But today, I have to go the other way.
03:25Because Daniel Susack is not Carlton Fisk.
03:32Not yet.
03:33Not yet, that's true.
03:34But he is not, he's not Cal Raleigh, you know what I mean?
03:38He is not the greatest hitting catcher of his generation because he's had six duck snorts in seven at-bats
03:45to begin his career.
03:46That's all I'm saying.
03:47But he's had a very nice start.
03:51And I also think that the reason why everyone's excited about him is just because he's not Patrick Bailey.
03:57Exactly.
03:59Well, let's hear Tony Vitello on the triple.
04:04Glenn Kuiper.
04:06Dwayne Kuiper.
04:08Why?
04:09Okay.
04:09Now, I could let this go.
04:11I could let it go.
04:13But I'm not going to let it go.
04:16Why is a Dwayne Kuiper call in the sound?
04:20That's what they call an actual, right?
04:23Or an actuality.
04:24Sure.
04:26That's for me.
04:26But you're right.
04:28I'll move it.
04:29That's all I wanted to know.
04:32Okay.
04:33This is Vitello.
04:34I could have played the triple anyway.
04:37This is Vitello.
04:40Oh, you already removed it.
04:42Okay.
04:43As not to distract you.
04:44This is, I hope the questions, is the question in this from John Shea?
04:50Because it gets a kick out of Vitello.
04:52This is John Shea talking to Vitello about Susack.
04:56At this point, Tony, why not just play Susack every day?
05:02No, I think he's obviously earned the right to, you know, I think prior to today, he's earned the right
05:08to be out there for us more often and be good for both those guys.
05:14I think they've got a good friendship and also a good working relationship.
05:19And at that position, my only experience up to date, which you probably don't want to hear about because it's
05:26a different schedule, but it's a lot less games, has always been two guys.
05:30In recruiting, it's always been used two guys because at the end of the season, whoever it is you lean
05:37on the most, if you don't go matchups with a pitcher, either your own or the opposing pitcher, your other
05:44guy's going to be more fresh.
05:45It's not an easy thing to go out there all the time.
05:48So we'll worry about tomorrow when this whole deal's in here is over with, and then you'll be seeing plenty
05:56of both guys as the season goes on.
05:57I'll tell you what, he's, his podium game.
06:02It's getting better.
06:03Solid.
06:03It's getting better.
06:04Why do you have to laugh like that, though?
06:09At this point, Tony, why not just play Susack every day?
06:15Like, why do you have to, I mean, that was.
06:17Because he wanted to say, because he's a freaking backup.
06:19That's why.
06:20Because he stinks.
06:22So quit coming down my row when the manager's scoffing at a question about a guy who's six for seven.
06:27Oh, my God.
06:28By the way, okay, fine.
06:30Since people think that I don't know ball, a barrel is defined as a ball hit 98 miles per hour
06:40off the bat.
06:40A what does?
06:41A barrel.
06:42Okay.
06:42If you barrel a baseball.
06:44Okay.
06:44Is defined as being 98 miles per hour off the bat between an angle of 25 and 30 degrees.
06:52In that regard, he has none.
06:55That's all I'm saying.
06:57Okay.
06:59That's an unfair stat.
07:00No, it's not.
07:01It's very unfair, and I'll tell you why.
07:04So you're telling me.
07:05It's not.
07:06Okay.
07:06So you're telling me.
07:08What?
07:11How big's a rise?
07:14Like 5'11".
07:15Okay.
07:15It's kind of small.
07:16A little table setter.
07:17Sure.
07:17Yeah.
07:18So you're telling me that if a rise is up to the plate.
07:21Yeah.
07:23And gets a hole and rips one.
07:25And Aaron Judge gets up to the plate and hits one.
07:30The only way a rise can barrel it is if he reaches a threshold of 98 miles per hour.
07:37Yes.
07:38If he can hit a ball hard.
07:39That's a joke.
07:41That's just a joke.
07:42Well, he barreled the ball last night.
07:44The ball he hit to right center field for the sack fly was a barrel.
07:46My point is, is like if you're a small guy, you can barrel without getting it to 98 miles per
07:51hour.
07:53And conversely, your boy Aaron Judge can probably hit a ball 99 where he doesn't barrel it up.
07:59No, no, no.
08:00But it has to be, it has to be a line drive.
08:03Like the point is.
08:05You don't think it's harder for a rise to hit a 98 mile per hour barrel than, than Aaron Judge?
08:13Well, yes, of course.
08:14Right.
08:14Because of size.
08:15None.
08:16Because he doesn't swing as hard as Judge does.
08:18But, okay, since we're going to go there, you know how big Daniel Susack is?
08:23Well, let me guess.
08:236'9".
08:24He's 6'5".
08:25So he should be able to hit a ball harder than Luis Arias.
08:28Okay, but he, that's a small sample size.
08:30He's going to start to barrel.
08:32We know that.
08:33Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
08:34But just, again, don't.
08:35Like, I guess what I'm saying.
08:36Don't tell me.
08:38Here's what I'm saying.
08:39He's also 210 pounds.
08:41He's a big boy.
08:42Okay, here's what I'm saying.
08:43That's why I've always wondered why Patrick Bailey can't hit for power.
08:45The guy is huge.
08:47Like, seriously, he's like, what, 6'5", 240?
08:49Who?
08:50Bailey.
08:51Bailey's a big boy.
08:52And he does not hit the ball hard.
08:54Here's what I'm saying.
08:57If I batted, I would be incapable of barreling a ball, no matter how hard I hit it.
09:04That's on you.
09:05No, but I'm just saying, if, like, if a rise is full swing and he hits a line drive,
09:13he might only be able to hit 102 miles an hour.
09:17Then why does Jose Altuve hit 20 to 25 home runs a year?
09:20He's 5'4".
09:23I'm just saying, littler guys are going to be at more of a disadvantage.
09:27It doesn't mean there can't be outliers.
09:29Well, that's my point.
09:30If you're that small, you're usually not in the league unless you can hit the ball hard.
09:34Okay, have you ever heard?
09:34Mookie Betts is a buck 80 soaking wet.
09:37He hits the ball real hard.
09:38Okay, and you know what?
09:39You know who didn't hit the ball real hard?
09:40Who?
09:41Willie McGee.
09:43So he doesn't get credit for a chopper that he can beat out?
09:46I bet you Willie McGee one year at least hit 15 home runs.
09:53Here's the name.
09:551980.
09:56No.
09:561984 MVP?
09:58I'm going to say no.
09:59This is big.
10:00Oh, boy.
10:01This is really big.
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10:13Oh, that hurts.
10:1411.
10:15Yeah.
10:15Nice job.
10:16Nice job.
10:17Yeah.
10:19You know, I was very familiar with those Cardinals teams.
10:21But he still had a slugging percentage of 500.
10:24So he did hit the ball hard.
10:26No, he chopped everything.
10:27He chopped a chopper up the middle.
10:29He's going to beat it out.
10:30He had 49 infield hits that year.
10:34You can't chop 18 triples.
10:36If you chop it over the third baseman's head, you can run like a gazelle.
10:43Shout out local legend Willie McGee, by the way.
10:45Oh, that's true.
10:46By the way, another interesting, I always say this when we bring up those old Cardinals teams.
10:51Tommy Herr, second baseman.
10:53Mm-hmm.
10:54Remember him?
10:56I don't.
10:57I never watched him.
10:58He actually was from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
11:00I think he still has the record for most RBIs with the fewest amount of home runs in a season.
11:10Not in the dead ball era.
11:12Well, this is correct.
11:14Yeah, yeah, not in the dead ball era.
11:15Because I was like, there were guys that had two home runs in 130 RBI before there were actual springs
11:21in the seams.
11:23But that's pretty cool.
11:24Wait, so what was it like?
11:25He had six homers in 120 RBI or something like that?
11:29Yes.
11:30That's pretty impressive.
11:32I want to find out exactly, and I know nobody else cares.
11:34Hey, Evan, let me ask you a question.
11:35What do you think about Spraychart?
11:38What about it?
11:39Meaning, like, if a guy can hit a ball, not just...
11:41Eight home runs, 110 batted in.
11:43Yeah.
11:43Not just going left field, center field.
11:45Like, if he can go opposite field, you know, in his righty, what do you say for that?
11:50Even if it's not hit hard, at least getting it on the other side where, you know, a defense wouldn't
11:54be set up that way.
11:55I would say eventually that's going to regress.
11:58Like, you hitting flares to right field is eventually going to come...
12:05Like, that's not...
12:05Eventually, those are going to be outs.
12:07Well, what if I told you that Daniel Sussex talked about it in postgame and said, you know, that's something
12:12I've been working on in the offseason and in spring training.
12:15Getting it to the opposite field.
12:16And it's actually true because most of his batted balls have been to right field, and that triple was, like,
12:22right down the line.
12:24So, that tells me that he's purposely trying to see pitches deep, which is a good approach, and eventually is
12:32going to come back to bite him.
12:34Let's see.
12:35Let's just keep...
12:36Well, it's just...
12:37The defense will make an adjustment, and then Sussex will make another one.
12:41Well, like, for...
12:42That's the name of the game.
12:42Like, for example, Jason Kendall was the king of this.
12:45I don't...
12:46What?
12:47You know how I feel about him.
12:48I know, which is why I want to talk about him.
12:50One of my least favorite players in Major League Baseball history.
12:52Why is he one of your least favorite players?
12:54Because he's...
12:55Because he's never hit a home run?
12:56No, because he's kind of a jerk.
12:57Oh, well...
12:58He was a red ass.
13:00No.
13:00All right.
13:01Okay, no, no, no.
13:02There's...
13:02Okay.
13:02Yeah.
13:03When you have a father, okay?
13:06When you have a father who plays professional sports, okay?
13:11His dad was Fred Kendall, caught for the Cleveland Indians.
13:14Mm-hmm.
13:15When you have a father who's a pro player or a pro manager, and you grow up in the game,
13:22you can go one of two ways.
13:24You can be a jerk and act like you're entitled because daddy played in the big leagues, or
13:33you can be someone who says, man, I've been very fortunate to be the son of a guy who played
13:39or managed in the big leagues.
13:42That's really a choice piece of luck in life.
13:48I'm going to be a nice guy because I got some breaks here that maybe other people didn't get.
13:55And Kendall was the former.
13:58Kendall was...
13:58He was...
14:00You know, one of these...
14:02Jason Kendall was a first-round pick.
14:03One of these guys...
14:04That stinks.
14:05It's not the best catchers I've ever seen.
14:07You're crazy.
14:07He just broke his ankle.
14:09Oh, please.
14:09Are you nuts?
14:10Jason Kendall was a damn good baseball player.
14:12Not because of daddy.
14:13Is he in the Hall of Fame?
14:14Oh, my God.
14:16You just did what you hate.
14:17Are you...
14:17Does he have a ring?
14:19I don't know.
14:20No, he doesn't.
14:21Okay.
14:21But that's my point.
14:22That's what you do.
14:23He made an all-star game.
14:24So, like, you're telling me he's, like, he's not even in Thurman Munson's class who's
14:28not even in the...
14:29Thurman Munson's a borderline Hall of Famer.
14:31That's right.
14:31And Kendall's not even close.
14:33So what's your point?
14:34Well, you just said Kendall's one of the best catchers I've ever seen in my life.
14:38What are you talking about?
14:40Well, you're talking to Ken now.
14:41But what I'm talking about is the fact that if you're going to put Susek in Jason Kendall's
14:46class, can he at least play a couple...
14:51Can he be a starting catcher first?
14:52First of all, I didn't put Susek in Kendall's class.
14:54No, he is.
14:55You are.
14:55Everyone else is.
14:56I'm saying he's going seven for eight and this guy's on his way to the Hall.
14:58I'm saying Jason Kendall is a guy who grew up like Kyle Shanahan, but thinks he's better
15:05than everybody and treated writers terribly and...
15:10Eh, just...
15:11Eh, just...
15:12No.
15:13Well, he might be a jerk, but that doesn't mean he's not a good baseball player.
15:16We praise Barry Bonds every single day.
15:18Nobody liked him.
15:19He was average.
15:22He was average.
15:23Who, Bonds?
15:24Kendall.
15:25Oh.
15:26Kendall was above average.
15:28Let's get Ben in Hayward.
15:30He wants to take Evan to task.
15:32That's fine.
15:32Hey, Ben.
15:34How you doing, man?
15:35Hey.
15:36Oh, my God.
15:36Jason Kendall.
15:37Hey, I'm doing great.
15:38Thanks for taking my call.
15:40Oh, my gosh.
15:41He gets hits.
15:44I don't care, man.
15:46I don't care how fast it's coming off the bat.
15:47He gets hits, and they're not hitting.
15:51So, my gosh.
15:53Take the win, man.
15:54You know, he'll adjust.
15:56I agree.
15:57He'll adjust.
15:57I mean, he seems like a smart hitter.
16:01So, my God.
16:05Unbelievable.
16:05He hits.
16:06Yeah.
16:07Ben, thanks a lot for the call.
16:09You know, obviously, and this is one of the issues we run into periodically when we get our young sports
16:15hosts on the air.
16:20Baseball.
16:20Have you ever heard of Wee Willie Keeler?
16:23No.
16:24Yeah.
16:24Well, exactly.
16:27You haven't heard of him, and that's the problem here.
16:30What's the problem?
16:30He had a famous saying that's more important than exit velocity.
16:36Hit them where they ain't.
16:38You ever hear that phrase?
16:39I have.
16:39That's Wee Willie Keeler.
16:41Okay.
16:42Okay.
16:42And that's what Susack's doing.
16:45He's hitting them where they ain't.
16:46I don't care how fast they go.
16:49And all I'm telling you is when at the end of the season, we wonder where Daniel Susack...
16:56Oh, you're welcome, by the way.
16:58What do you have against...
16:58To F you, you're welcome for falling on the sword of this segment so you can stand there and be
17:03the good guy of the Giants.
17:04We don't give a crap.
17:05What do you have against a flair?
17:07I don't have anything against a flair.
17:10What I have is against people saying that this guy should all of a sudden be the starting catcher for
17:14the Giants because he's had six duck snorts in two games.
17:19That's what I have a problem with.
17:21Yeah.
17:22Let's go back to Bailey.
17:23By the way, is he starting today?
17:25Is Susack...
17:26Is Susack...
17:27No, it'll be Bailey in the eighth hole, I believe.
17:29Oh.
17:29By the way, you're not yelling at Tony Vitello for literally laughing at a question about if this guy should
17:34be a starter or not.
17:35But you're going to come down my road.
17:37Well, let me tell you something.
17:38But you're going to come down my road.
17:39Let me tell you something.
17:40Your manager is laughing you out of the room.
17:43Okay.
17:44And I'm going to tell you, that's a bad move for Vitello because you get on John Shea's bad side,
17:50don't laugh at John Shea.
17:52You're going to the Hall of Fame.
17:54He's written books.
17:55Oh, he's not in the Hall of Fame?
17:57Well, then he's right there with Kendall.
17:59According to you.
18:02The...
18:03Jason Kendall.
18:06Wasn't half the player his dad was.
18:08Well, I wouldn't know.
18:10I think he was better than his dad.
18:12Yeah, I think...
18:12I was like, Jason Kendall's pretty good.
18:14I don't know.
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