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00:00The Giants, 6-0 last night, 5-0 today, and Dibs thinks the Giants love Tony Bitello.
00:08Until I see anything to the contrary, and I go back to the Alex Pavlovich article from
00:14spring training where he's giving the guys a hard lesson on the field, and there's some
00:18eye rolls, and Matt Chapman's behind him nodding, and this is from Pav's article, and I can
00:23just picture it, and Chappie's now hitting, and Devers has come alive, and Adamas is working
00:29to the opposite field, which is always a good sign, and so slow starts, and last couple
00:33of days is a small sample, but through it all, you haven't really seen, I haven't seen
00:38any signs of like, oh, I mean, what's this guy doing?
00:42Well, okay, few things on this, and 888-957-9570 is the number.
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00:57I don't know if they love Tony Vitello, and I don't know that we can, there's any broad
01:01stroke that we can give.
01:02I'm sure there are plenty of guys who are like, you know, I give him an A, and there are
01:07plenty of guys who are like, I give him a B, and what have you.
01:10I'm sure his relationship with all the players is not the same, but I don't know if they need
01:14to love him.
01:15I don't know if that's what this is about.
01:17I know that they need to respect him, but they don't need to love him.
01:22I mean, we were actually talking about this.
01:25Guys, remember when Matt Chapman yelled at Casey Schmidt, and we were doing like an hour
01:30or two on, have you ever yelled at anybody at work?
01:32And nobody would say no.
01:35Of course, there's been yelling at work, or there are hurt feelings at work.
01:39And how about with your boss?
01:41You agree with him all the time?
01:42Do you love him every day?
01:45Or her?
01:46Whoever your boss is, whatever you do, I'm saying him, because that's what we, you know,
01:50like actually we've got one of each, depends on how far up our chain you want to go.
01:55You know, do you love him every day?
01:57Do you have tense conversations?
01:59Absolutely.
02:00But at the end of all of it, I think it works best, and the company will do best if
02:06you're
02:06simply sort of having that respect for a boss.
02:09Doesn't need to be, I love him, I like him, you know, like I'm going to go to war for
02:15him.
02:15But I think there needs to be an underlying respect, and when you come from college and
02:19go to the pros, that's especially true.
02:21Absolutely.
02:21And, you know, you have to also be authentic to yourself, right?
02:24So you can't just come in and kowtow to the vets because you want to curry favor and win
02:29them over.
02:29You still have to be the guy that you're going to be, and you have to be appropriately,
02:34I don't know, amusing and show your personality in the right spots.
02:39And yesterday when Robbie Ray is coming out, I could kind of see he had his back to the
02:43camera, but I thought that he was, you know, saying some things that were either clever
02:47or lighthearted in some way.
02:49Maybe he was saying something about the check swing call that didn't go their way, which
02:53was, it was close.
02:54I thought he went, but whatever.
02:56It takes time, and winning obviously helps the overall relationship, but I'm just looking
03:02at, you know, the way they're going about celebrating wins.
03:05Like last night again, you had Kylan Mills and Sean Estes out there in ponchos because they
03:10knew someone was getting doused, even though it wasn't a walk-off, they're celebrating wins
03:14at a certain level.
03:15You know what I love about Tony Vitello is that over the last 48 hours, he has started
03:20to use his roster.
03:22That's what I love about Tony Vitello.
03:25That took a minute.
03:27I still have questions about it, but you're starting to see some off days get sprinkled in.
03:32Jung-Hoo Lee got one last night.
03:34Elliott Ramos got one tonight.
03:36Harrison Bader got one.
03:38They put Susak back in.
03:41He got three more hits.
03:42I saw a stat today because I went over to the start of the game today.
03:45You know what they threw up on the scoreboard?
03:47Check this out.
03:48Daniel Susak is the first player to start his career five for five since 1961.
04:00Really?
04:01Any player, any team?
04:04Major League Baseball.
04:05Correct.
04:05Correct.
04:07And who was that?
04:08Oh, I have no idea.
04:09Oh, okay.
04:09No, that wasn't.
04:10This is my son's pet peeve.
04:11Yeah, no, well, they didn't put it on the, that wasn't even the point.
04:14Well, then he's not mad at you, he's mad at them.
04:16Well, whatever.
04:17But the point is, is like, that doesn't happen.
04:20That doesn't happen.
04:21I was negative 14 years old the last time that happened, that somebody started their major
04:26league career five for five.
04:28I mean, he's now six for seven with a two run triple last night.
04:33And a lot of people were pissed that he wasn't in the lineup today.
04:37I'll tell you what, I was there for lineup introductions, and there was a fan sitting
04:41like really right near me, and you could hear it.
04:45I don't know if we need, do we need to have this conversation?
04:48They weren't boos, but they were moans.
04:52They were announcing the starting lineup, and when they got to Bailey, it was kind of
04:57like, eh.
04:59Yeah?
04:59There was some audible.
05:00Stiney in the house?
05:01Audible moans.
05:02Oh, boy.
05:03And then the guy right near me turns to his buddy and goes, no Susak?
05:08Like he's a household name now, right?
05:10Right.
05:11Right, he guys played two games in his big league career.
05:13We're not doing Susak today?
05:16And the attendance immediately dipped by 25 people.
05:19Everybody left.
05:20All the Susaks.
05:21Yeah, this is a good point.
05:22And all of the protesting fans.
05:25I came to see Susak.
05:27Right.
05:27They wanted Dan Dibley's exit pricing.
05:30Like, I'm not paying full price for no Susak.
05:32Guys, five for six.
05:33Did something that hasn't been done in 65 years?
05:36I'm going to need like 12% back.
05:38Dude.
05:39But I think this is going to be a little bit of a slow burn.
05:45In other words, there are politics involved.
05:48There are.
05:49I know people don't like that.
05:51But when you have people who are in established positions, you don't take their job from them just because their
05:57backup had two good days.
05:58You don't do that.
06:00The whole pitching staff is more used to Patrick Bailey.
06:03This was a day game after a night game.
06:06All I'm saying is there are considerations.
06:09There are a lot of considerations with regard to that.
06:12But I do think that you'll see him more, especially if Patrick doesn't start to produce.
06:17Patrick went one for three today.
06:19At a bid.
06:20You know, that's better than what he's been doing.
06:23Susack still has more hits than Bailey, which is wild because he's played two games.
06:28Right.
06:28So it'll come and he'll get more opportunities.
06:32But you don't just I'm almost in agreement.
06:34You don't yank the rug out from underneath his feet because Susack had two games.
06:40You could ride the hot hand.
06:41I get that.
06:43But there are things to consider that.
06:45Yeah, and you've got a nine game trip that does span 11 days.
06:49And so there'll be at least one, probably two games.
06:52I know they've got an early morning game for us in Cincinnati that will either be Bailey
06:57or Susack.
06:58Neither one will go on the back to back day game after a night game.
07:01And maybe you give him one in Baltimore as well.
07:04I don't know.
07:04But he's definitely earned more time.
07:07But you're right at this point in the year, especially as good as Bailey is not only framing,
07:12which everyone wants to, like, undersell the importance of framing in the ABS era.
07:17But it still is very important because you only get two challenges.
07:21So if you're going to, you know, not challenge every pitch and it's not the robots yet,
07:26framing still matters.
07:27Do we have analytics on teams yet on ABS challenges?
07:31I feel like the Giants are not good at it.
07:33I haven't seen any analytics.
07:35I know they made two terrible challenge decisions today.
07:38Did they?
07:38Chapman made a bad one.
07:39I saw that one.
07:40Patrick Bailey actually made a bad one, too.
07:43Arise made a good one.
07:44Yes, he did.
07:45Right before the Chapman one.
07:47Chapman made a mistake right after and then eventually struck out.
07:49They actually put it in the box now.
07:51Arise, strike, overturned to a ball.
07:54The catcher for the Phillies had two.
07:57Ball overturned to strike twice.
07:59So he stole a couple.
08:00Okay.
08:01And, yeah, Bailey had a ball that was confirmed to Grandy's point.
08:04And Chapman had a strike that was also confirmed.
08:07Yeah, and Adamus will challenge things that are literally right down the middle of the play.
08:10Like, they're like, fully in the box.
08:13I think we need to do a new penalty for when I do ABS, if it's one of those balls
08:20that hits the line where only part of the ball is in the box, okay, I get it.
08:25You took a shot.
08:26What are you going to do?
08:28But if the whole ball is in the box, I don't know, man.
08:31You lose both challenges?
08:33You got to start next at bat with a strike already or, I don't know, you got to take a
08:37lap.
08:38Something's got to happen there.
08:39You lose challenge ability for the rest of the week.
08:42I like that.
08:43I like that.
08:45Unless it's like if it's a game-saving situation or whatever.
08:49But I do like that.
08:50Yeah, Willie Adamus is not off to a great ABS start.
08:54Yeah, the old ABS numbers.
08:56And, yeah, you're able to now see him baseball savant, MLB.com.
09:00You can kind of, you know, start to look at who's good at it and who's not for hitters and
09:05for catchers.
09:05So, it's going to be a thing, but with only two challenges a game, framing and, you know, stealing strikes
09:11is still a thing, especially early in the count.
09:14All I want to point out, though, in the conversation we're having about whether it's the Giants or Tony Vitello,
09:20isn't it funny, and I think we can all admit this, does your perception of everything change in, how many
09:29has it been?
09:29It's been 22 hours, approximately.
09:32Maybe even just 21.
09:3321 hours and change.
09:35Since the Giants started that game last night.
09:38Three and eight.
09:40Everybody hates them.
09:41They're about to face two elite starters.
09:45They're the worst team in baseball.
09:48And then 21 and a half hours later, they shut out the Philadelphia Phillies twice.
09:55They score 11 runs in those two games.
09:59Their best hitter has a watershed moment, big moment, two out, two on, three-run homer.
10:05To break a scoreless tie in whatever that was, seventh inning, I think.
10:10Does your perception of everything we've been talking about change?
10:16And if it does in 21 and a half hours, then I'd argue the perception we originally held is a
10:22little bit flimsy.
10:24Depends on what your perception was.
10:25And I haven't heard him today in the postgame.
10:27Maybe we'll have some of that for you as we get deeper into the show.
10:30But that's been my only real, and it's not a major issue, but it's been an eyebrow raiser of some
10:36of the commentary that he's offered up in spots.
10:38But if he's being authentic to himself, then that's going to be part of the journey.
10:43And so the other issue I was having is him not using the bench.
10:47And you pointed it out where Koss got to play and Encarnacion left.
10:51And you're seeing more guys getting breaks and spot starts for other people.
10:56So that, to me, becomes an important part of it as well.
10:59I mean, even all the guys that are hitting under 200, I mean, just think about it.
11:05This is how quickly the whole scenario changes.
11:09Do you realize that, like, okay, Willie Adamas is hitting 260.
11:13Louisa Rice is hitting 320.
11:15Matt Chapman is hitting 300.
11:17And Rafi Devers is up to 220.
11:20I think he was at 180 when the game started.
11:22Yeah, two days.
11:23Boom, boom.
11:24So, like, again, what happened happened.
11:28And I am nowhere near saying, yay, now the Giants are good and everything is fixed.
11:33I don't think that at all.
11:35But so many of the sort of evidentiary pieces we've been using, I mean, poof, they're up in smoke in
11:4220 hours after a couple of nice games.
11:44And today was the day where I think all eight of the hardest hit balls were off of Giants' bats.
11:49And you're starting to see guys, you know, get comfortable.
11:52And I know it's a small sample, but back-to-back games, you put up crooked numbers.
11:56Just a quick look at the ABS stats for Giants' hitters.
12:00They're 3-4 as a club.
12:03You've got Elliot Ramos, 2-0.
12:08Encarnacion is 1-0.
12:09Chappie's lost 1.
12:11Arise, 1.
12:11And Adamas is 0-2.
12:12Yeah, he's 0-2.
12:13So they're 3-4 as hitters.
12:15Adamas has got to go to ABS class.
12:18Yep.
12:18Take a lap.
12:19So...
12:19So...
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