00:00Are you guys ready for some NFL Draft overreaction or reality as we are now less than four weeks away
00:07from the first round of the NFL Draft?
00:09Alec, are you ready?
00:10I dare you to do some NFL Draft overreaction or reality.
00:15He said you don't have the balls to do it.
00:16Nope.
00:17Challenge accepted.
00:18Overreaction or reality.
00:20No matter the perceived value, you only want the Cowboys to take defensive players with their first round picks.
00:34All right, we're off and running.
00:36Yeah, yeah.
00:40I can't say that.
00:41Okay.
00:42I want them to because I want all the good defensive players that I want to be available at those
00:48picks.
00:49Right.
00:49But I also understand having a CD Lambs cool.
00:54A dude you didn't expect to be there.
00:56Like, you have all these needs.
00:58You should have really addressed them in free agency.
01:00You tried.
01:01You failed on a couple of them because other teams picked the players.
01:05But it goes against my draft strategy to just say that.
01:10Now, the Cowboys will tell you, yes, we agree with best player available.
01:15And then Steven will always add, at position of need.
01:20Either that or he'll be like, that was the best player we had left in the entire draft.
01:24He was the top player on our board.
01:25Yeah.
01:26He was fourth overall.
01:27That was the number one player on our board, guys.
01:30We got our guy.
01:31We valued him more than anybody else out there.
01:36So, I always agree with take the best player if the best player is there.
01:41But this is a heavy defensive draft anyway, so I'm already in that mindset.
01:45But I don't agree.
01:48Overreaction.
01:49Alec, what say you?
01:51Overreaction or reality?
01:52No matter the perceived value, you only want the Cowboys to take defensive players with their first round picks.
01:59Overreaction because you got to take the best player available because I know how this division works, too.
02:06I've seen it, especially on day two.
02:08Howie Roseman will see a good player available either right in front or right after the Cowboys.
02:15And he will trade up to that very next pick just to make sure that there's not even a chance.
02:20So, I don't want to leave a massive offensive weapon like a Jeremiah Love just sitting there
02:26and some psycho GM that you're going to have to face in the NFC is like,
02:31I'll give up a bunch of picks to go get him.
02:33Why is he still there?
02:34I want to be that team that is saying, why is he still there?
02:37We're taking him at this pick, no matter what the offensive player at that point in the draft is.
02:44But, obviously, the defense needs a lot of work.
02:46The offense, not so much.
02:48I'd prefer defensive players, but you take the best player that's available.
02:51Well, you just hit on at least one of the players in the next question.
02:55Or, you trade out of that pick so that you can get more picks and get your defensive player at
03:00a lower round.
03:00I would support that strategy for sure.
03:03Overreaction to reality, I know Fernando Mendoza is going to go one,
03:07but Caleb Downs or Jeremiah Love is the actual best player in this NFL draft.
03:15I would say Caleb Downs is my favorite one in the draft.
03:20Sonny Stiles did some things at the Combine that really turned some heads.
03:24And I know people went crazy over Arvel Reese's workout.
03:27And if you watch Sonny Stiles play in the football games, you're like, wow.
03:34But I love all the things I see about Caleb Downs.
03:38Now, here's one thing I haven't given a lot of thought to.
03:42Because we talk about this with Khalil Mack.
03:45He was on the field against nobodies.
03:48And he made everybody look foolish.
03:50Then he went to the NFL.
03:52My question was, but he was on the field against nobodies.
03:55Yeah.
03:56How does that translate?
03:57And I'm still trying to figure out how you translate that.
04:01Caleb Downs is on the field with the best.
04:03Best of the best, yeah.
04:05Is this an Alabama situation where he looks that good because he can be that good?
04:10Because everybody else on the team is that good.
04:12And I still think the player that I watched has all these great traits that I like.
04:19And I don't think short arms and all that's going to be a translate to a bad thing because he's
04:24going to be a player.
04:25But I like Caleb Downs.
04:28Alec, overreaction to reality.
04:30Caleb Downs or Jeremiah Love.
04:33One of them is the actual best player in this draft.
04:37And I realize positional value and all that.
04:40Take that out.
04:41Yeah.
04:41And it's hard to take that out just because of the responsibility asked by the varying positions.
04:46Because when you think about it, running back isn't going to be asked to do as much as either of
04:52those positions in my mind.
04:54When it comes to importance in the game, you've seen teams win Super Bowls with a committee of running backs
04:59before.
05:00But in terms of overall skill, I've always had Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love as 2-3 in that order.
05:09I think I could be talked into Downs being the overall best player in this draft.
05:14I really do.
05:15Maybe not the highest upside.
05:17Orville Reese, miles away, has the highest upside.
05:21The best player right now, ready to play in the NFL, might be Caleb Downs.
05:26So I'll say reality.
05:26Okay, so I'm going to try another thing with this and a player that we haven't really mentioned too much
05:35yet.
05:37Overreaction to reality.
05:38If you had the number two pick and trading wasn't an option, you would take David Bailey.
05:47And Fernando Mendoza's gone?
05:49Correct.
05:52Dude, what are you doing?
05:54I'd probably take Downs.
05:56At two?
05:57Yeah.
05:58Okay.
05:58If I want to take the best player.
06:01But now you do factor in positional value and whatnot.
06:04I want to take the best player.
06:06Okay.
06:07I'm taking Downs.
06:09Okay.
06:09Are you locking that answer in?
06:11Yeah.
06:11Okay.
06:12Overreaction or reality?
06:14Alec.
06:16Mendoza's off the board.
06:17You have the number two pick and trading isn't an option.
06:20You would take David Bailey.
06:23See, my process changes when you're that high in the draft.
06:27At that point, I think positional value comes into play a little bit more.
06:32I'm not as greedy when I'm in the teens and 20s, you know, picking there saying, well, I really need
06:39a safety.
06:39And you're reaching for a guy that's a day two guy.
06:42At that point, I'm probably okay with taking David Bailey.
06:46I know that for a while, it was like a good week run where his odds shot up to be
06:50the number two pick.
06:51And it's for a reason.
06:52He's a really, really good player.
06:56I think he has the chance to be better than Arvel Reese, just total career picture wise.
07:02So I'd be fine with it.
07:04Reality.
07:05NFL draft overreaction or reality?
07:07Ty Simpson will for sure be selected in the first round.
07:13Reality.
07:14You want a bonus question?
07:16No.
07:17Okay.
07:18I do.
07:19Okay.
07:21Bonus.
07:22Garrett Nussmeier, not Ty Simpson, is QB2 in this class.
07:28That is the opinion of Nate Tice?
07:30I thought I'd throw it out there.
07:32Sorry, Nate Tice.
07:33I disagree.
07:33Okay.
07:35I just think there's too many mistakes I've seen Nussmeier make.
07:39That is very fair.
07:41Yeah.
07:41And not saying that Ty Simpson doesn't have mistakes as well.
07:44But they're just, for somebody who I don't think is, like, I think Ty Simpson can run.
07:50And I don't think Nussmeier runs as well.
07:52And if you're going to be a pocket passer like that, you need to be able to deliver with smart
07:57decision making.
07:59Alec, overreaction or reality?
08:01Ty Simpson will for sure be selected in the first round.
08:05With the bonus, Garrett Nussmeier, not Ty Simpson, could be QB2 in this class.
08:11Reality to the first and overreaction to the latter.
08:16I think there's too much smoke about Ty Simpson.
08:20And I know some of it is just Dan Orlovsky being bad at his job.
08:24But I feel like you're starting to hear more and more people saying it just because they're hearing it.
08:32You know, like, either the agent is getting intel that, hey, we are seriously thinking about if he's still there
08:38moving up into the back end of the first round.
08:40I could totally see a Lamar Jackson situation where the Ravens came in at the very final pick and said,
08:46it doesn't cost that much to go up to that pick.
08:48And we get that extra fifth year that we can pick up and keep you for cheap if you are
08:53good enough to where we have to make a decision on you.
08:56So, just from an accounting standpoint, I think you have to, if you're a team that thinks you even might
09:02need a quarterback in the next three to five years, you go up there and take them just to get
09:07that fifth year.
09:09NFL draft overreaction or reality, Edge is the strongest position in this draft.
09:15Oh, I mean, when we had him on the show, it was pretty spectacular.
09:19I don't, did we?
09:21I think he goes by Cope now.
09:23Yeah, we had Cope.
09:23Uh, this is Edge the position, not the inferior member of the Edge and Christian tag team.
09:31It just, that, that's one of my smoking hot wrestling opinions.
09:35This is very, wow.
09:36I feel like that is a very fringe opinion.
09:38Repeat the question, you shocked me so much.
09:40Overreaction or reality.
09:41I see.
09:44Edge, pass rusher if you will, is the strongest position in this draft.
09:50I should have known better.
09:51I think, I think it is.
09:53Deepest.
09:53For sure.
09:54And I think the, the highest amount, we'll actually might get to that a little bit in the C block
09:59today.
10:00The highest amount of players, I think.
10:03But that position is now becoming a flexible position in a lot of ways is more people are using that
10:10linebacker as not just a pass rusher, but the ability to be, to drop into coverage and do other things
10:16as well.
10:17But their primary third down role is that, but yes, I think there are a lot of players that fit
10:22this role.
10:22It just depends on the vision that the defensive coordinator has for what his defense is.
10:29Do you want a bonus question?
10:31Rick bonus.
10:33Rich bonus.
10:35It's Rick.
10:36Oh, Richard bonus.
10:37Oh, my dear God.
10:39Don't go to the next step.
10:42You know what?
10:43I do want a bonus question.
10:44You could see how I would assume that was a no.
10:47Quarterback is the weakest position in the draft.
10:50Quarter?
10:52Quarterback.
10:52Yes.
10:54Which is weird, because I know the top pick's going to be a quarterback, but after that...
10:58Could be a running back.
10:59Ooh.
11:00Ooh.
11:01Okay.
11:02Intriguing.
11:04Alec, strongest position group in this draft is the pass rusher, as we've now changed it,
11:10and the weakest position in this draft is quarterback.
11:14Well, Kevin, on this day, I can see clearly that Edge is the strongest position group in
11:22this draft.
11:23Those are the same songs to his entrance music.
11:24I can see clearly.
11:25That's a different...
11:26It's a totally different song, but I appreciate the effort.
11:29Edge definitely is, just because of what Corey said, there's not an archetype for Edge rushers
11:36anymore.
11:37There's not a specific...
11:38Man, that's really true.
11:39Yeah, there's not a specific build.
11:41There's not a specific skill set.
11:43Like, one thing that you need to be good at, it's can you do multiple things very well?
11:49So you're going to see a lot of different guys of different shapes and sizes that are
11:52going to be taken in the first round.
11:54You know, it could be somebody leaner, or you could get somebody that's just a massive
11:58wall of humanity like Keldrick Falk.
12:00You know, so the variance there, I think, just allows the position group, and probably
12:05for years to come, will be the strongest group of many drafts.
12:09Um, and then quarterback definitely sucks this year.
12:13I think a lot of teams knew that they were better off not being so bad this year because
12:18they can't get much help in that department.
12:21I think there's an argument to be had for running back, but I do think some of the day
12:26three picks that you're going to see for running back are going to be very good just because
12:30positional value is going to play into their stock a lot.
12:33And you're going to see like a fourth round guy that's going to end up being a true starter
12:39in the NFL at some point.
12:41So you could get some good value there, but quarterback, there is nothing to be desired
12:46there.
12:46So you could get some good value there.
12:46Okay.
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